http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/17/new...igon.php?page=1

"HO CHI MINH CITY: Meet the world's next great metropolis, a once-gracious city bursting from the confines of its history, wide-eyed with the wonders of traffic jams and tall buildings and thinking very, very big.

Held back by a half-century of war and privation, it is charging forward with gigantic plans for urban expansion and development, determined to seize what it is certain is its rightful place as a world leader.

"We are in a good position and determined to build a whole new Ho Chi Minh City," said Nguyen Trong Hoa, director of the city's department of urban planning and architecture.

"We want to become the biggest city in Vietnam and be the center of Asean," the grouping of 12 Southeast Asian nations, he said, "and be the center of Asia and the center of the world as well.""

Ho Chi Minh City aka Saigon will be the strongest city of a very strong country. Hanoi will remain the capital city regardless, though

Speaking of Hanoi, the city will celebrate the 1000th Anniversary in 2010.

The news is nothing new, but the thread starter should stay of those illegal drugs.

I don't do drugs because I want to live long and well.

Thats good
Keep you body strong and your mind strong also

As for Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) being the next great metropolis, it's very possible. And if you ask me, it's bound to happen.

^ Why is the title "Center of ASEAN, Center of Asia, Center of World"? It's either the drugs or well...you figure it out.

It is good to have high goals and achieve.




It's encouraging to hear from optimistic and positive people.

Goals Needs to be SMART

Specific
Measurable
Achievable
Realistic
Tangible

Acting like a bunch of Chinese who think their country is the "centre of the universe" when all you have is your nationalist pride will only make other people laugh.

A SMART goal for VN is to reduce poverty by so and so percent, to increase GDP per capital by so and so percent ect. A stupid goal, my country is the bomb, and everyone should kneel down to me.

And apparently, this goal can probably be in all those categories. It's not my nationalism talking, if you look at the facts, it's bound to happen one day or another.

All I am talking about is the title of this thread. It's stupid and it's retarded.

Okay son, it might just be time to have a sweet dream.

You talk of the title of this thread being retarded, most of what you said is retarded.

I'm sorry I hurt your felling. Okay, you can go back to your sweet dreams now. I won't wake you up again.

OoOooH! You hurt my feelings! waah! You are very strong like Arnold on the internet! OoOOOh!
fu-king retard, keep talking b!tch.

"Chinese who think their country is the "centre of the universe" "
sorry...we can't help it. we been like that since thousand years ago..

Well , it was posted in Vietnam Chat or VN Serious Talk only
Hint : The name of the city

I thought 'Little Saigon' was the center of the universe?? That little sh!thole full of gangs is not quite the gem that the VNCH makes it out to be. Which is worst, 'little saigon' or 'Eden(don't know the name)' on the east coast????


Do they still buy everything from Vietnam.....


Maybe they need the French to rule over them to make the place decent.

Nope : They were driven out !
No need for them to try to build it into the center of anything . Not the case with Sai Gon , IMO .
Sai Gon had been liberated .

I dunno about this you guys....

sorry but I think Singapore beat you to it

Thats great but it'll be sad if they would lost their cultres just for that

It is true that SaiGon had been called "Hòn Ngọc Viễn Đông , Pearl of The Orient " at one time , but for the time being Shanghai or New Delhi would be taken more seriously ... in the future as the center of Asia and the center of the world as well.

Từ "hòn ngọc Viễn Đông" không nên dùng bởi vì thực ra Sài gòn cách đây mấy chục năm vẫn chưa thể bằng được nhiều thành phố trong vùng Đông Nam Á chứ chưa nói đến toàn Đông Á. . Người Phi-líp-pin cũng gọi thủ đô của họ là hòn ngọc Viễn Đông, cả Malayxia cũng thế. Phải biết nhìn người mà biết ta, tự hào thì phải có cơ sở vững chắc. Phải có lập trường và chứng cứ thì nói mới thuyết phục, chứ cứ hùa theo nhau nói hòn ngọc này hòn ngọc nọ thì không nên.

Nếu có gì đáng tự hào thì Việt Nam nên tự hào về nền văn hóa của mình. Chứ kinh tế thì chưa bao giờ, và cũng chưa chắc sẽ có thể tự hào được. Tin báo đưa thì cũng chỉ là để động viên toàn dân làm kinh tế mà thôi.

Bought a world time watch don't have sai gon or hanoi on it must be a swiss . Bought a japanese world time seiko only has Bangkok , that commie Hcm is a joke then

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/17/new...igon.php?page=2
It was in the 1860s that French colonists laid out the grids and began to build the shady city that came to be known as the Pearl of the Orient. City officials are now redefining it for the next century or more, and the question is how much of old Saigon will remain.

"A city is like a human being," Tat said. "It needs to have a past. There is a saying in Vietnam that even if the pages are frayed, a book must still have its spine."

Already the city's pages are fraying.

As Vietnam's economy opened fitfully over the past decade and a half, developers seized their moment to coarsen some of the elegance of the city center with faceless office buildings. The skyline was fouled with undistinguished structures including two dozen incongruous skyscrapers.


But projects like this are now the subject of debate, most recently a proposed 53-story tower that would devour a park and overshadow one of the city's landmarks, the central market.

At one point, a Taiwanese developer was offering $500 million for the site, a very hard sum to turn down. And there are some officials who like the aesthetics of the idea, a landmark for the new century, signaling the city's thrust into the future.

The city's emerging plan calls for most tall buildings to be concentrated in the new center to be created across the river. But that is still years away, and the demands of developers, along with the city's hunger for modernity, may overwhelm aesthetics.

Bold plans for transportation systems and for underground parking garages are only at the starting point - too late to avoid the traffic gridlock that has almost overnight become a new feature of the city.

According to the city's figures, there are 400,000 cars on the roads, along with three million small motorbikes. As the economy surges, the balance will tilt toward autos, and using a rule of thumb, each car waiting at a stoplight will take up the space of six motorbikes.

It is much easier to start fresh, of course, and Ho Chi Minh City is blessed with broad areas for expansion. For city planners, Saigon South is a model for the future, a 3,100-hectare, or 7,600- acre, project that is managed by a Taiwanese company, Central Trading and Development Group.

A fully furnished city, it will come complete with shopping malls, hotels, schools, hospitals, scientific institutes, food courts, a small golf course, offices, a convention center, an industrial park, apartments and housing developments.

Neat, clean and orderly, it is a futuristic Saigon, leached of its history.

The fresh face of Saigon South is probably historically inevitable, uncannily similar to the version of a modern Vietnam that was created by refugees as Little Saigon in Southern California.

In its newer districts, it might be said, big Saigon is being transformed into a big Little Saigon

Muốn hiểu biết hơn thì nên vào forum của các nước láng giềng để xem họ nói gì và học thêm về lịch sử kinh tế. Như thế mới hiểu được tại sao cái cụm từ "hòn ngọc viễn đông" lại bị dùng loạn xạ. Nói sài gòn là một thành phố lớn của việt nam thì đúng nhưng mà nếu nói nó là hòn ngọc viễn đông thì đúng là hoang tưởng, kể cả từ trước đến bây giờ. Không những hoang tưởng mà người ta còn coi mình là kiêu ngạo và ngu si.

in WHAT ho chi minh will be the greatest city???

in poorness, in frustration, in.....???

À trash nói cũng có lý lắm..nếu Sài Gòn trước kia không xứng đáng được gọi là thế, thì chúng ta cũng không bao giờ có thể cho rằng thành phố Hồ Chí Minh sứng đáng được gọi là Hòn Ngọc Viễn Đông, vì những nước láng giềng cũng cho rằng của họ như thế...nước ta vẫn thua xa những nước người, cho nên cái tư tưởng nó sẽ là "the greatest city" gì đó cũng chỉ la mơ hồ.

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