Malay teenager saving chinese girl who need a new heart..
see..
we live in harmony and always help each other
KUALA LUMPUR 4 Okt. – Selepas setahun menanggung derita kerana terpaksa bergantung kepada jantung mekanikal sebagai penyambung hayat, penantian Tee Hui Yee untuk mendapatkan jantung baru berakhir apabila ada insan yang sudi mendermakan organ itu kepadanya.
Keluarga seorang remaja lelaki Melayu berusia 15 tahun dari Sitiawan bersetuju mendermakan organ anak mereka termasuk jantung kepada pesakit-pesakit yang memerlukan.
Jantung remaja yang meninggal dunia kerana kemalangan jalan raya itu dipindahkan ke tubuh Hui Yee dalam satu pembedahan maraton selama 13 jam di Ipoh dan Kuala Lumpur.
Pada pukul 7 malam, pasukan perubatan Institut Jantung Negara (IJN) di sini diterbangkan ke Ipoh untuk melakukan pembedahan mengeluarkan organ remaja lelaki Melayu itu di Hospital Ipoh pada pukul 8.30 malam.
Organ-organ itu kemudian diterbangkan ke Kuala Lumpur dengan penerbangan ihsan pesawat CN235 Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia (TUDM) yang mendarat di Subang dekat sini.
Dari situ, organ-organ itu dikejarkan dengan ambulans ke IJN dan tiba di institut itu pada tengah malam tadi. Ketika itu Hui Yee telah pun berada dalam dewan pembedahan untuk memulakan prosedur pemindahan jantung baru itu.
Penderitaan Hui Yee, 14, yang terpaksa bergantung nyawa kepada jantung mekanikal sejak setahun lalu berakhir malam tadi, tiga hari selepas Utusan Malaysia menggerakkan kempen Mencari Jantung Untuk Hui Yee.
Keluarga remaja lelaki Melayu yang koma sejak Isnin lalu akibat kemalangan jalan raya membuat keputusan untuk mendermakan organ anak mereka selepas membaca laporan akhbar mengenai pendermaan organ dan setelah dinasihatkan oleh doktor-doktor di Hospital Ipoh.
IJN dalam satu kenyataan petang ini memberitahu, Hui Yee telah dibawa masuk ke bilik pembedahan di IJN pada pukul 10.45 malam tadi sejurus selepas pemindahan jantung dijalankan dengan jayanya di Hospital Ipoh oleh pasukan perubatan IJN.
Jantung remaja lelaki itu dibawa terus ke IJN untuk operasi pemindahan jantung yang dilakukan pada pukul 1.30 pagi ini selepas Hui Yee berada di dewan bedah mulai pukul 10.45 malam.
“Pembedahan ke atas Hui Yee berlangsung selama 10 jam dan Hui Yee dikeluarkan dari bilik pembedahan pada pukul 9.05 pagi ini.
“Pembedahan berlangsung dengan jayanya, namun beliau kini berada dalam keadaan kritikal dan ditempatkan di Unit Rawatan Rapi (ICU).
“Hui Yee yang menunggu selama setahun sebelum ini telah menghadapi pelbagai masalah dengan jangkitan dan keadaan pemakanan yang merosot. Di ICU, beliau kini memerlukan sokongan mekanikal sementara bagi menstabilkan jantung barunya,” kata kenyataan tersebut.
Menurut kenyataan itu, pasukan pemindahan IJN yang melakukan pembedahan itu diketuai oleh Ketua Pakar Bedah Kardiotorasik, Datuk Dr. Mohd. Azhari Yakub dan Pengarah Klinikal bagi Pemindahan Jantung dan Paru-Paru, Dr. Mohamed Ezani Md. Taib.
Pasukan pemindahan telah bertungkus-lumus menjayakan pembedahan tersebut sejak petang semalam sebaik sahaja sepasukan 13 pegawai perubatan termasuk jururawat dari IJN berlepas ke Ipoh setelah mendapat berita mengenai seorang penderma yang meninggal dunia pada kira-kira pukul 5 petang.
Sebaik tiba di lapangan terbang di ibu negeri Perak itu yang terletak kira-kira 200 kilometer dari Kuala Lumpur, mereka bergegas ke Hospital Ipoh untuk memindahkan organ jantung daripada penderma untuk Hui Yee.
Di hospital itu mereka turut mengambil paru-paru remaja itu, yang kemudian dipindahkan kepada seorang pesakit lelaki berusia 39 tahun yang menghidap idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, iaitu penyakit paru-paru keras.
Pembedahan pemindahan paru-paru itu dijalankan oleh pasukan perubatan lain di IJN serentak dengan pembedahan ke atas Hui Yee.
“Kedua-dua pembedahan itu melibatkan enam pakar bedah kardiotorasik, enam pakar anestetik, seorang doktor dari Institut Penyelidikan Respiratori dan 30 pegawai paramedik.
“Selepas dibedah, lelaki itu turut ditempatkan di ICU dan berada dalam keadaan kritikal,” katanya
Menteri Kesihatan, Datuk Seri Dr. Chua Soi Lek pada sidang akhbar di IJN pagi ini berkata, proses pemulihan Hui Yee dijangka menghadapi pelbagai cabaran kerana tahap kesihatannya terjejas teruk akibat bergantung kepada jantung mekanikal sejak setahun lalu.
Pengurus Komunikasi Korporat IJN, Aina Jamil pula memberitahu, ibu bapa Hui Yee kini berada di ICU dan belum bersedia memberikan sebarang kenyataan kepada pihak media.
Beliau menambah, pasukan perubatan juga belum bersedia mengadakan sidang akhbar kerana mereka perlu memantau keadaan kedua-dua pesakit itu dengan rapi.
Full Version: List of Malay racist crimes against the ethnic Chinese
malay? chinese? what? owh malaysian.
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malay? chinese? what? owh malaysian.
Stop trying to paint a coat of paint over the underlying problems.
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I like Danny94 comment. Every one of us is not perfect. The starting point policy only do good for 1st and 2nd generation. Now is 4th and 5th generation. I think new policy should be introduced. Not same as NEP. This is because, after what I found with new generation of Chinese, they are open hearted people. Can talk to every body. Not like previous old generation, where they think they still from China. Now new generation, they are whole heartedly in Malaysia. They proud to be Malaysian.
I support your dissatisfaction although I am Malay. My family was part of the May13 , 1969 riot in KL. We lived in Kampung Baru. We part of the conflict.
Now I want to demand from government to change our policy. There is no more CPM. What we are afraid of. Only our own shadows. I want to stand together with the new generation of Malaysian Chinese. Please change the NEP.
We shall do policy that integrate more within us. So that we know each other. I hope my kids never be part of any discrimination program.
I support your dissatisfaction although I am Malay. My family was part of the May13 , 1969 riot in KL. We lived in Kampung Baru. We part of the conflict.
Now I want to demand from government to change our policy. There is no more CPM. What we are afraid of. Only our own shadows. I want to stand together with the new generation of Malaysian Chinese. Please change the NEP.
We shall do policy that integrate more within us. So that we know each other. I hope my kids never be part of any discrimination program.
Kumanddie,
I support you. I am also Malay. I accept meritocracy. I am now ready to compete with Chinese and Indian counterpart in healthy approach. Now days I can see more and more brilliant young malay students in the schools and universities. Dont worry about small numbers of Malay billionaires in the world. We are talking just about 14 million Malay Malaysians compared to 200 milion, 1.2 and 1.5 billion people in other region. But what about other Bumi in Peninsular, Sabah and Sarawak?. Because NEP not only about Malay. They are mostly Christians and animists. Some of them are still living in remote area and jungle. Have they ready for this?
I support you. I am also Malay. I accept meritocracy. I am now ready to compete with Chinese and Indian counterpart in healthy approach. Now days I can see more and more brilliant young malay students in the schools and universities. Dont worry about small numbers of Malay billionaires in the world. We are talking just about 14 million Malay Malaysians compared to 200 milion, 1.2 and 1.5 billion people in other region. But what about other Bumi in Peninsular, Sabah and Sarawak?. Because NEP not only about Malay. They are mostly Christians and animists. Some of them are still living in remote area and jungle. Have they ready for this?
I support meritocrazy not meritocracy. 
Who are they who support meritocrazy? Are they 200 million? Are they crazy?
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Who are they who support meritocrazy? Are they 200 million? Are they crazy?
Yes they are....
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Kumanddie,
I support you. I am also Malay. I accept meritocracy. I am now ready to compete with Chinese and Indian counterpart in healthy approach. Now days I can see more and more brilliant young malay students in the schools and universities. Dont worry about small numbers of Malay billionaires in the world. We are talking just about 14 million Malay Malaysians compared to 200 milion, 1.2 and 1.5 billion people in other region. But what about other Bumi in Peninsular, Sabah and Sarawak?. Because NEP not only about Malay. They are mostly Christians and animists. Some of them are still living in remote area and jungle. Have they ready for this?
I support you. I am also Malay. I accept meritocracy. I am now ready to compete with Chinese and Indian counterpart in healthy approach. Now days I can see more and more brilliant young malay students in the schools and universities. Dont worry about small numbers of Malay billionaires in the world. We are talking just about 14 million Malay Malaysians compared to 200 milion, 1.2 and 1.5 billion people in other region. But what about other Bumi in Peninsular, Sabah and Sarawak?. Because NEP not only about Malay. They are mostly Christians and animists. Some of them are still living in remote area and jungle. Have they ready for this?
The govnt can still help the poor and underprevelidged regardless of their race.
The only way to reach racial harmony in Malaysia is for all races to integrate.
Malays, Indian & Chinese descents marry each other and produce new generation of Malaysian. However, this is easy said than done. The problem is Malays cannot leave Islam and Chinese/Indian won't join Islam. I think most non-muslim are afraid of Islam.
This is just my opinion. No offense to Malays, Chinese, Indian and your religions.
Malays, Indian & Chinese descents marry each other and produce new generation of Malaysian. However, this is easy said than done. The problem is Malays cannot leave Islam and Chinese/Indian won't join Islam. I think most non-muslim are afraid of Islam.
This is just my opinion. No offense to Malays, Chinese, Indian and your religions.
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Malay teenager saving chinese girl who need a new heart..
see..
we live in harmony and always help each other
KUALA LUMPUR 4 Okt. – Selepas setahun menanggung derita kerana terpaksa bergantung kepada jantung mekanikal sebagai penyambung hayat, penantian Tee Hui Yee untuk mendapatkan jantung baru berakhir apabila ada insan yang sudi mendermakan organ itu kepadanya.
Keluarga seorang remaja lelaki Melayu berusia 15 tahun dari Sitiawan bersetuju mendermakan organ anak mereka termasuk jantung kepada pesakit-pesakit yang memerlukan.
Jantung remaja yang meninggal dunia kerana kemalangan jalan raya itu dipindahkan ke tubuh Hui Yee dalam satu pembedahan maraton selama 13 jam di Ipoh dan Kuala Lumpur.
Pada pukul 7 malam, pasukan perubatan Institut Jantung Negara (IJN) di sini diterbangkan ke Ipoh untuk melakukan pembedahan mengeluarkan organ remaja lelaki Melayu itu di Hospital Ipoh pada pukul 8.30 malam.
Organ-organ itu kemudian diterbangkan ke Kuala Lumpur dengan penerbangan ihsan pesawat CN235 Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia (TUDM) yang mendarat di Subang dekat sini.
Dari situ, organ-organ itu dikejarkan dengan ambulans ke IJN dan tiba di institut itu pada tengah malam tadi. Ketika itu Hui Yee telah pun berada dalam dewan pembedahan untuk memulakan prosedur pemindahan jantung baru itu.
Penderitaan Hui Yee, 14, yang terpaksa bergantung nyawa kepada jantung mekanikal sejak setahun lalu berakhir malam tadi, tiga hari selepas Utusan Malaysia menggerakkan kempen Mencari Jantung Untuk Hui Yee.
Keluarga remaja lelaki Melayu yang koma sejak Isnin lalu akibat kemalangan jalan raya membuat keputusan untuk mendermakan organ anak mereka selepas membaca laporan akhbar mengenai pendermaan organ dan setelah dinasihatkan oleh doktor-doktor di Hospital Ipoh.
IJN dalam satu kenyataan petang ini memberitahu, Hui Yee telah dibawa masuk ke bilik pembedahan di IJN pada pukul 10.45 malam tadi sejurus selepas pemindahan jantung dijalankan dengan jayanya di Hospital Ipoh oleh pasukan perubatan IJN.
Jantung remaja lelaki itu dibawa terus ke IJN untuk operasi pemindahan jantung yang dilakukan pada pukul 1.30 pagi ini selepas Hui Yee berada di dewan bedah mulai pukul 10.45 malam.
“Pembedahan ke atas Hui Yee berlangsung selama 10 jam dan Hui Yee dikeluarkan dari bilik pembedahan pada pukul 9.05 pagi ini.
“Pembedahan berlangsung dengan jayanya, namun beliau kini berada dalam keadaan kritikal dan ditempatkan di Unit Rawatan Rapi (ICU).
“Hui Yee yang menunggu selama setahun sebelum ini telah menghadapi pelbagai masalah dengan jangkitan dan keadaan pemakanan yang merosot. Di ICU, beliau kini memerlukan sokongan mekanikal sementara bagi menstabilkan jantung barunya,” kata kenyataan tersebut.
Menurut kenyataan itu, pasukan pemindahan IJN yang melakukan pembedahan itu diketuai oleh Ketua Pakar Bedah Kardiotorasik, Datuk Dr. Mohd. Azhari Yakub dan Pengarah Klinikal bagi Pemindahan Jantung dan Paru-Paru, Dr. Mohamed Ezani Md. Taib.
Pasukan pemindahan telah bertungkus-lumus menjayakan pembedahan tersebut sejak petang semalam sebaik sahaja sepasukan 13 pegawai perubatan termasuk jururawat dari IJN berlepas ke Ipoh setelah mendapat berita mengenai seorang penderma yang meninggal dunia pada kira-kira pukul 5 petang.
Sebaik tiba di lapangan terbang di ibu negeri Perak itu yang terletak kira-kira 200 kilometer dari Kuala Lumpur, mereka bergegas ke Hospital Ipoh untuk memindahkan organ jantung daripada penderma untuk Hui Yee.
Di hospital itu mereka turut mengambil paru-paru remaja itu, yang kemudian dipindahkan kepada seorang pesakit lelaki berusia 39 tahun yang menghidap idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, iaitu penyakit paru-paru keras.
Pembedahan pemindahan paru-paru itu dijalankan oleh pasukan perubatan lain di IJN serentak dengan pembedahan ke atas Hui Yee.
“Kedua-dua pembedahan itu melibatkan enam pakar bedah kardiotorasik, enam pakar anestetik, seorang doktor dari Institut Penyelidikan Respiratori dan 30 pegawai paramedik.
“Selepas dibedah, lelaki itu turut ditempatkan di ICU dan berada dalam keadaan kritikal,” katanya
Menteri Kesihatan, Datuk Seri Dr. Chua Soi Lek pada sidang akhbar di IJN pagi ini berkata, proses pemulihan Hui Yee dijangka menghadapi pelbagai cabaran kerana tahap kesihatannya terjejas teruk akibat bergantung kepada jantung mekanikal sejak setahun lalu.
Pengurus Komunikasi Korporat IJN, Aina Jamil pula memberitahu, ibu bapa Hui Yee kini berada di ICU dan belum bersedia memberikan sebarang kenyataan kepada pihak media.
Beliau menambah, pasukan perubatan juga belum bersedia mengadakan sidang akhbar kerana mereka perlu memantau keadaan kedua-dua pesakit itu dengan rapi.
see..
we live in harmony and always help each other
KUALA LUMPUR 4 Okt. – Selepas setahun menanggung derita kerana terpaksa bergantung kepada jantung mekanikal sebagai penyambung hayat, penantian Tee Hui Yee untuk mendapatkan jantung baru berakhir apabila ada insan yang sudi mendermakan organ itu kepadanya.
Keluarga seorang remaja lelaki Melayu berusia 15 tahun dari Sitiawan bersetuju mendermakan organ anak mereka termasuk jantung kepada pesakit-pesakit yang memerlukan.
Jantung remaja yang meninggal dunia kerana kemalangan jalan raya itu dipindahkan ke tubuh Hui Yee dalam satu pembedahan maraton selama 13 jam di Ipoh dan Kuala Lumpur.
Pada pukul 7 malam, pasukan perubatan Institut Jantung Negara (IJN) di sini diterbangkan ke Ipoh untuk melakukan pembedahan mengeluarkan organ remaja lelaki Melayu itu di Hospital Ipoh pada pukul 8.30 malam.
Organ-organ itu kemudian diterbangkan ke Kuala Lumpur dengan penerbangan ihsan pesawat CN235 Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia (TUDM) yang mendarat di Subang dekat sini.
Dari situ, organ-organ itu dikejarkan dengan ambulans ke IJN dan tiba di institut itu pada tengah malam tadi. Ketika itu Hui Yee telah pun berada dalam dewan pembedahan untuk memulakan prosedur pemindahan jantung baru itu.
Penderitaan Hui Yee, 14, yang terpaksa bergantung nyawa kepada jantung mekanikal sejak setahun lalu berakhir malam tadi, tiga hari selepas Utusan Malaysia menggerakkan kempen Mencari Jantung Untuk Hui Yee.
Keluarga remaja lelaki Melayu yang koma sejak Isnin lalu akibat kemalangan jalan raya membuat keputusan untuk mendermakan organ anak mereka selepas membaca laporan akhbar mengenai pendermaan organ dan setelah dinasihatkan oleh doktor-doktor di Hospital Ipoh.
IJN dalam satu kenyataan petang ini memberitahu, Hui Yee telah dibawa masuk ke bilik pembedahan di IJN pada pukul 10.45 malam tadi sejurus selepas pemindahan jantung dijalankan dengan jayanya di Hospital Ipoh oleh pasukan perubatan IJN.
Jantung remaja lelaki itu dibawa terus ke IJN untuk operasi pemindahan jantung yang dilakukan pada pukul 1.30 pagi ini selepas Hui Yee berada di dewan bedah mulai pukul 10.45 malam.
“Pembedahan ke atas Hui Yee berlangsung selama 10 jam dan Hui Yee dikeluarkan dari bilik pembedahan pada pukul 9.05 pagi ini.
“Pembedahan berlangsung dengan jayanya, namun beliau kini berada dalam keadaan kritikal dan ditempatkan di Unit Rawatan Rapi (ICU).
“Hui Yee yang menunggu selama setahun sebelum ini telah menghadapi pelbagai masalah dengan jangkitan dan keadaan pemakanan yang merosot. Di ICU, beliau kini memerlukan sokongan mekanikal sementara bagi menstabilkan jantung barunya,” kata kenyataan tersebut.
Menurut kenyataan itu, pasukan pemindahan IJN yang melakukan pembedahan itu diketuai oleh Ketua Pakar Bedah Kardiotorasik, Datuk Dr. Mohd. Azhari Yakub dan Pengarah Klinikal bagi Pemindahan Jantung dan Paru-Paru, Dr. Mohamed Ezani Md. Taib.
Pasukan pemindahan telah bertungkus-lumus menjayakan pembedahan tersebut sejak petang semalam sebaik sahaja sepasukan 13 pegawai perubatan termasuk jururawat dari IJN berlepas ke Ipoh setelah mendapat berita mengenai seorang penderma yang meninggal dunia pada kira-kira pukul 5 petang.
Sebaik tiba di lapangan terbang di ibu negeri Perak itu yang terletak kira-kira 200 kilometer dari Kuala Lumpur, mereka bergegas ke Hospital Ipoh untuk memindahkan organ jantung daripada penderma untuk Hui Yee.
Di hospital itu mereka turut mengambil paru-paru remaja itu, yang kemudian dipindahkan kepada seorang pesakit lelaki berusia 39 tahun yang menghidap idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, iaitu penyakit paru-paru keras.
Pembedahan pemindahan paru-paru itu dijalankan oleh pasukan perubatan lain di IJN serentak dengan pembedahan ke atas Hui Yee.
“Kedua-dua pembedahan itu melibatkan enam pakar bedah kardiotorasik, enam pakar anestetik, seorang doktor dari Institut Penyelidikan Respiratori dan 30 pegawai paramedik.
“Selepas dibedah, lelaki itu turut ditempatkan di ICU dan berada dalam keadaan kritikal,” katanya
Menteri Kesihatan, Datuk Seri Dr. Chua Soi Lek pada sidang akhbar di IJN pagi ini berkata, proses pemulihan Hui Yee dijangka menghadapi pelbagai cabaran kerana tahap kesihatannya terjejas teruk akibat bergantung kepada jantung mekanikal sejak setahun lalu.
Pengurus Komunikasi Korporat IJN, Aina Jamil pula memberitahu, ibu bapa Hui Yee kini berada di ICU dan belum bersedia memberikan sebarang kenyataan kepada pihak media.
Beliau menambah, pasukan perubatan juga belum bersedia mengadakan sidang akhbar kerana mereka perlu memantau keadaan kedua-dua pesakit itu dengan rapi.
There is still hope to revive the racial intergration in this country bcak to how it was in the 60/70s afterall
dont forget about 100% pirated cd and dvd company and dealer own by chinese
also 100% casino owned by chinese
night club etc..
also 100% casino owned by chinese
night club etc..
i just came back from my beloved hometown in one of the small town in kedah. went back to see my primary school and chatted a lot with one of the vice principle's husband there. The primary school hasn't change including the table and chair since 20 years ago.... right in front of the school, there is a malay primary school as well.... which is so much bigger and nicer.... about 5 to 10 times of the sizes! u guys know why? it is simply because the malay school is fully fund by government and my beloved chinese school is based on donation from villagers there.... sad things isn't it? hai....
Maldini, no Malay schools in Malaysia, they are call 'Sekolah Kebangsaan', provided for all races, which is why it is fully fund by gorvenment.
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i just came back from my beloved hometown in one of the small town in kedah. went back to see my primary school and chatted a lot with one of the vice principle's husband there. The primary school hasn't change including the table and chair since 20 years ago.... right in front of the school, there is a malay primary school as well.... which is so much bigger and nicer.... about 5 to 10 times of the sizes! u guys know why? it is simply because the malay school is fully fund by government and my beloved chinese school is based on donation from villagers there.... sad things isn't it? hai....
That's because your small town is predominantly Malay! Kedah is basically a predominantly Malay-populated state except may be in Alor Star and Sungai Petani... that's why your Chinese school in that particular small town of Kedah doesn't get priority, it's better for the few Chinese there to send their kids to the national primary school. By the way, the correct term to use is the 'national primary school', not the 'Malay school'!! But you're such an anti-Malay nitwit, so why would you bother!! SOME Chinese Malaysians, probably including you, still refuse to recognize Bahasa Melayu as the national language!!
And you the Chinese are still lucky to at least have a school system in Malaysia with the Chinese language as a total medium of instruction! The Malayalees, the Punjabis, the Ibans, the Kadazans, the Ceylonese, the Rungus, the Lotuds, the Iranuns, the Mendriqs, the Bateks, the Jahuts, the Lanohs, etc , etc will never get school systems in their own respective languages even though they're also Malaysians like you?? They all have to go to either national language schools or national type (Tamil) schools..
Ask yourself: why are you Chinese Malaysians treated more special than these other Malaysians in such a way that you are given a Chinese-language system when the others are not given? Why are you as the Chinese is more special than, say, the Punjabis or the Ibans??
By the way ... there are lots of nice, beautiful and fully-equipped Chinese schools in Alor Star, Sungai Petani, the Klang Valley, Penang, etc with imposing tall and strong walls built around them... haven't you noticed???
And my old national primary school for boys in Seberang Perak (Alor Star) hasn't changed a bit .. it still looks like a chicken coop .. and worse... it looks like it's going to collapse anytime soon due to complete lack of attention from the government. And worst of all.. it's also the primary school attended by Dr Mahathir, Malaysia's 4th Prime Minister... 'worst' because for such a reputation for that school, we'd expect the government to take real good care of this school. I too just visited my hometown (Alor Star) recently!!
And Sekolah Kebangsaan Lelaki Seberang Perak is a "Malay school" (to use your term), not just Dr Mahathir's former school!!
And you're complaining about your stupid little Chinese school in some little town in Kedah!!
yes i support Esfandiari. u so dumb maldini, there is no f**king malay school in f**king malaysia
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That's because your small town is predominantly Malay! Kedah is basically a predominantly Malay-populated state except may be in Alor Star and Sungai Petani... that's why your Chinese school in that particular small town of Kedah doesn't get priority, it's better for the few Chinese there to send their kids to the national primary school. By the way, the correct term to use is the 'national primary school', not the 'Malay school'!! But you're such an anti-Malay nitwit, so why would you bother!! SOME Chinese Malaysians, probably including you, still refuse to recognize Bahasa Melayu as the national language!!
fyi, the small town that i live on is dominated by chinese. i anti-malay? LOL! i am just anti-government policy in pro-malay. ok.. i shld rephrase to sekolah kebangsaan. btw, my that chinese school not only take in chinese, indian and other race. even MALAY do send their children to there!
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And you the Chinese are still lucky to at least have a school system in Malaysia with the Chinese language as a total medium of instruction! The Malayalees, the Punjabis, the Ibans, the Kadazans, the Ceylonese, the Rungus, the Lotuds, the Iranuns, the Mendriqs, the Bateks, the Jahuts, the Lanohs, etc , etc will never get school systems in their own respective languages even though they're also Malaysians like you?? They all have to go to either national language schools or national type (Tamil) schools..
Ask yourself: why are you Chinese Malaysians treated more special than these other Malaysians in such a way that you are given a Chinese-language system when the others are not given? Why are you as the Chinese is more special than, say, the Punjabis or the Ibans??
Ask yourself: why are you Chinese Malaysians treated more special than these other Malaysians in such a way that you are given a Chinese-language system when the others are not given? Why are you as the Chinese is more special than, say, the Punjabis or the Ibans??
Are u an idiot? It is simply because chinse and indian race is enough for them to have a school. Well, if the population of those is big enough... i am sure they deserve their own as well.
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By the way ... there are lots of nice, beautiful and fully-equipped Chinese schools in Alor Star, Sungai Petani, the Klang Valley, Penang, etc with imposing tall and strong walls built around them... haven't you noticed???
And my old national primary school for boys in Seberang Perak (Alor Star) hasn't changed a bit .. it still looks like a chicken coop .. and worse... it looks like it's going to collapse anytime soon due to complete lack of attention from the government. And worst of all.. it's also the primary school attended by Dr Mahathir, Malaysia's 4th Prime Minister... 'worst' because for such a reputation for that school, we'd expect the government to take real good care of this school. I too just visited my hometown (Alor Star) recently!!
And my old national primary school for boys in Seberang Perak (Alor Star) hasn't changed a bit .. it still looks like a chicken coop .. and worse... it looks like it's going to collapse anytime soon due to complete lack of attention from the government. And worst of all.. it's also the primary school attended by Dr Mahathir, Malaysia's 4th Prime Minister... 'worst' because for such a reputation for that school, we'd expect the government to take real good care of this school. I too just visited my hometown (Alor Star) recently!!
please go to do research if those school are fully fund by GOVERNMENT or thru donation!
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And you're complaining about your stupid little Chinese school in some little town in Kedah!!
i cant complain when i see the unfair treatment? oh.... this is ur right! we cant question it ya? as usual
QUOTE(kelantanese @ Jan 3 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]3400701[/snapback]
yes i support Esfandiari. u so dumb maldini, there is no f**king malay school in f**king malaysia
But aren't there Islamic schools in Malaysia, where the students don't attend "normal" schools?
Personally I believe that eveyone should attend sekolah kebangsaan, and there should be no ethnic or religious schools. And everyone should learn about racial tolerance.
Malay school means Sekolah Agama Rakyat. There are two types of Sekolah Agama Rakyat : a) Governemnt type , b) Private type (donate by individual). This private sekolah agama rakyat is like a home of chickens (Reban Ayam). Some of these students die in fires. Because they are made by wood.
In my opinion , government should make a compulsory to all students attending national school in morning session. Afternoon session, these pupil can choose their own extra school, such as Chinese School, Tamil School, Sekolah Agama Rakyat, or anything resembles them.
Then these pupils can integrate each other more often, so that they will know more about Malaysia as a whole picture.
In my opinion , government should make a compulsory to all students attending national school in morning session. Afternoon session, these pupil can choose their own extra school, such as Chinese School, Tamil School, Sekolah Agama Rakyat, or anything resembles them.
Then these pupils can integrate each other more often, so that they will know more about Malaysia as a whole picture.
QUOTE(kumanddie @ Jan 4 2008, 02:02 AM) [snapback]3401563[/snapback]
Malay school means Sekolah Agama Rakyat. There are two types of Sekolah Agama Rakyat : a) Governemnt type , b) Private type (donate by individual). This private sekolah agama rakyat is like a home of chickens (Reban Ayam). Some of these students die in fires. Because they are made by wood.
In my opinion , government should make a compulsory to all students attending national school in morning session. Afternoon session, these pupil can choose their own extra school, such as Chinese School, Tamil School, Sekolah Agama Rakyat, or anything resembles them.
Then these pupils can integrate each other more often, so that they will know more about Malaysia as a whole picture.
In my opinion , government should make a compulsory to all students attending national school in morning session. Afternoon session, these pupil can choose their own extra school, such as Chinese School, Tamil School, Sekolah Agama Rakyat, or anything resembles them.
Then these pupils can integrate each other more often, so that they will know more about Malaysia as a whole picture.
I think every child should attend a sekolah kebangsaan. Any religious or ethnic schools should be after school hours or weekends
QUOTE(maldini @ Jan 3 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]3401234[/snapback]
fyi, the small town that i live on is dominated by chinese. i anti-malay? LOL! i am just anti-government policy in pro-malay. ok.. i shld rephrase to sekolah kebangsaan. btw, my that chinese school not only take in chinese, indian and other race. even MALAY do send their children to there!
Are u an idiot? It is simply because chinse and indian race is enough for them to have a school. Well, if the population of those is big enough... i am sure they deserve their own as well.
please go to do research if those school are fully fund by GOVERNMENT or thru donation!
i cant complain when i see the unfair treatment? oh.... this is ur right! we cant question it ya? as usual
Are u an idiot? It is simply because chinse and indian race is enough for them to have a school. Well, if the population of those is big enough... i am sure they deserve their own as well.
please go to do research if those school are fully fund by GOVERNMENT or thru donation!
i cant complain when i see the unfair treatment? oh.... this is ur right! we cant question it ya? as usual
My points are: stop invoking race-based discrimination against Malays just because your little Chinese school in your little Kedah town looks like it has seen better days. There are many national schools that are as dilapidated as your little Chinese school .. or may be even worse than your school .. especially schools in rural areas and in the interior of states like Sabah, Sarawak, Pahang, Kelantan, etc. In fact, there are national schools in cities as well that are quite dilapidated and ramshackle. That's why I've mentioned the Sekolah Kebangsaan (Lelaki) Seberang Perak and the Sekolah Kebangsaan (Perempuan) Seberang Perak, both in Seberang Perak in the recently-declared city of Alor Star.. go see these schools for yourselves next time you visit your home state..
QUOTE(maldini @ Jan 3 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]3401234[/snapback]
Are u an idiot? It is simply because chinse and indian race is enough for them to have a school. Well, if the population of those is big enough... i am sure they deserve their own as well.
Nope! I certainly don't feel like an idiot! You're the real nincompoop with all your nincompoopery!! The Indian community in Malaysia is constitutionally guaranteed a school system in Tamil language .. no one can take away this system from the Indian Malaysians because the Malaysian Constitution guarantees them that right. You think Indians are big on number in Malaysia?? I don't think so! Indians constitute only 7%-9& of the Malaysian population of roughly 27 million, may be even a lot smaller then the Indonesian migrant community in our country!! And even on that so-called 'Indian' basis, not all 'Indians' in Malaysia are Tamil-speaking.. you know 'Indians' like Punjabis, Sindhis, Hindis, Sinhala, Malayalees, Telugus, etc. The word 'Indian' in Malaysia is a loose term to group all people that descended from Indian subcontinent (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, the Maldives and Sri Lanka). Does Tamil language matter to all these non-Tamil Indians? Does giving Indians a Tamil-based education any consolation at all to these non-Tamil Indians? So, you see.. if we remove the non-Tamil Indians from Malaysia's Indian community, the so-called Indian community of Malaysia is a lot smaller still ... and yet the Constitution still guarantees them a special privilege to have a Tamil-language education although the Tamil population is indeed very small..minute, teeny weeny .. I'd say!!
And please don't brush aside the Ibans and the Kadazans of Sabah and Sarawak as small...there are at least 600,000 Ibans in Sarawak and I'm sure the population of Kadazan-Dusun in Sabah too is significantly sizeable .. big enough to merit their education systems in their languages....but these nice and peaceful peoples of Sarawak and Sabah aren't demanding these educational rights, suffice for them to attend the national education system .. after all Bahasa Melayu has always been to them a national language to be proud of..
And so .. you know what .. the Chinese and Indians in Malaysia aren't given their respective vernacular education systems based on their population sizes...your beloved Chinese school doesn't exist because of your population size. It's based on this so-called unwritten "social contract" imposed by the British and the migrant peoples from China and India on the Malays of Malaysia, otherwise independence wouldn't be granted peacefully .. and the alternative would be a bloody war of independence by the Malays against both the British and the migrants...I'm glad we chose peace over blood. The British didn't want the migrant Chinese and Indians brought to Britain, the migrants didn't want to go back to China or India.. the best way is to create little China and India in Malaysia and let the migrants live here as if they'd never left China or India... give them political, education, language and cultural rights..
There are more Chinese in Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam and Philippines than in Malaysia..but those countries would give you nothing if you were there..
Aku bukan mengungkit yang lepas-lepas....sekadar memberitahu kamu hal-hal sebenar yang patut kamu tahu kawan!!
By the way..time has long gone and past.. you the Chinese and Indians are legitimate citizens of Malaysia.. you're here to stay..you've contributed to Malaysia's success and development the last 50 years.. I'm not one of those Malays who would want you sent back to China or India.. yang lepas tu dah lepas.. I myself have Indians and Chinese in my larger extended family due to intermarriages..
I'm writing here just to remind you... di mana bumi dipijak, di situ langit dijunjung.. that's all kawan..
Esfandiari, after so much arguments. my question is simple. my parent bornt in msia and same as me as well. why are we treated so differently than your so called bumi malay? u want to compare with other country? why not compare with other country like singapore that is based on merit?
I thought Maldini attend school at Italy !!!! Maybe you should donate half of your own salary for your beloved school. It easier to do than depend on govt. Govt want to push its own agenda which was Sekolah Kebangsaaan for all Malaysia so that most Malaysians can speak proper Malay. This only can be achieved if most of our student attend Sekolah Kebangsaan.
QUOTE(Betong @ Jan 5 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]3403998[/snapback]
I thought Maldini attend school at Italy !!!! Maybe you should donate half of your own salary for your beloved school. It easier to do than depend on govt. Govt want to push its own agenda which was Sekolah Kebangsaaan for all Malaysia so that most Malaysians can speak proper Malay. This only can be achieved if most of our student attend Sekolah Kebangsaan.
The govnt should only wholly fund sekolah kebangsaan, no other schools should be wholly funded, this includes sekolah agama where there are still some that are fully govnt funded. The funding should be fixed by per student basis and there should be strict criteria by which the schools have to adhere to to maintain their licenses.
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Jan 8 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]3412050[/snapback]
The govnt should only wholly fund sekolah kebangsaan, no other schools should be wholly funded, this includes sekolah agama where there are still some that are fully govnt funded. The funding should be fixed by per student basis and there should be strict criteria by which the schools have to adhere to to maintain their licenses.
I agree that only Sekolah Kebangsaan wholly funded by govt.
There's only one way to fix Malaysian problem:
Malays loosen up on Islam. Malays, Chinese don't look down on Malays & Indians. Malays, Chinese and Indian assimilate each other. After few generations, no need that special Bumiputras treament since everyone were campured.
Malays loosen up on Islam. Malays, Chinese don't look down on Malays & Indians. Malays, Chinese and Indian assimilate each other. After few generations, no need that special Bumiputras treament since everyone were campured.
who cares what you think barbarian. is it any of your business matey? =)
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Malays loosen up on Islam.
Hardly unlikely. Ever.
QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jan 15 2008, 03:42 AM) [snapback]3427094[/snapback]
Hardly unlikely. Ever.
Then the govnt can expect more protests and unrest and it will only have themselves to blame.
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Then the govnt can expect more protests and unrest and it will only have themselves to blame.
For the past 50 yrs, we hold the Muslim-Malay status quo. Violent demonstrations & clashes regarding inter-religious conflict NEVER happen in MY.
Only fanatical Islamists get their arses ROYALLY kicked by our dearest Police.
QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jan 16 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]3428751[/snapback]
For the past 50 yrs, we hold the Muslim-Malay status quo. Violent demonstrations & clashes regarding inter-religious conflict NEVER happen in MY.
Only fanatical Islamists get their arses ROYALLY kicked by our dearest Police.
Only fanatical Islamists get their arses ROYALLY kicked by our dearest Police.
Hindraff was partly a religious demonstration as were the demonstrations regarding the Lina Joy case.
QUOTE(barbarian @ Jan 12 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]3420219[/snapback]
There's only one way to fix Malaysian problem:
Malays loosen up on Islam. Malays, Chinese don't look down on Malays & Indians. Malays, Chinese and Indian assimilate each other. After few generations, no need that special Bumiputras treament since everyone were campured.
Malays loosen up on Islam. Malays, Chinese don't look down on Malays & Indians. Malays, Chinese and Indian assimilate each other. After few generations, no need that special Bumiputras treament since everyone were campured.
um.... the word assimilate is probaly a very bad word to use. it's very offensive to the cultures of each race if we have to assimilate. probaly mixing together but keep own unique identity is the better way
QUOTE(Cookielover @ Nov 18 2006, 06:19 PM) [snapback]2493460[/snapback]
Life in Malaysia is much better for the ethnic Malays nowadays.
Open up your eyes!!!
come on...
I don't want to say long words..
one example...in Bukit Mertajam...
Right infront of Hospital Bukit Mertajam, there is a Hindu temple, 100m at the front, another larger Hindu temple(opposite the 1st temple), another 150m at front, another Hindu temple....Soo...
That is only in pekan Bukit mertajam...not include other area
So wake up you guys....there are no such thing as ethnic cleansing....
How about in industry environment..
most of them concered by chenese..
how many of us with good qualification has been rejected during interview because we are malay
and how many managers want to have only mandarin speakable employees...
still want to say that you guys having a terrible life in Malaysia?!!!.....
Jaimu should have locked this thread a longggggggg time ago 
QUOTE(theng @ Jan 22 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]3442044[/snapback]
Jaimu should have locked this thread a longggggggg time ago
Why?
in politically, it's time for us to fight for a better malaysia, not for a better malay or chinese or indian.
my god, we hav going to this for 50 yrs now. why can't we think about putting down our differences and fight for a better malaysian standard.
learn from the aussies. they fight for a better australia not fight for a better aboriginal or caucasian.....
look out to the world, and finally learn why we have to fight not for ur own race but for ur country tht u dearly loved.
my god, we hav going to this for 50 yrs now. why can't we think about putting down our differences and fight for a better malaysian standard.
learn from the aussies. they fight for a better australia not fight for a better aboriginal or caucasian.....
look out to the world, and finally learn why we have to fight not for ur own race but for ur country tht u dearly loved.
QUOTE(Malay_guy @ Nov 20 2006, 08:18 PM) [snapback]2500031[/snapback]
cbut i think the same thing happen in Thailand and it also happen in Singapore, a country so adored by the malaysian chinese. in Singapore, there's a limit to a number and the size of a mosque that can be build. they also banned an azan. also there's a quota for a number of malays who can join the SAF and no malays can become officer, just a lowly grunt. so what? should i call Lee Kuan Yew and Goh Chok Tong a NAZI? . face it. this chinese right group only whining because they feel they were being discriminated now. If situation were reverse, i believe they'll do the same. in fact, maybe worst.
I'm agree with you.
I really don't know why most chinese keep saying they are "abused" in malaysia.
If they really want to be singapore citizen, pls do so(that of course if singapore want to accept you as they also already crowded)and how about becoming china citizens? Do you know how many children you are allowed to have there? i'm sorry to say this, but most of GRO are from china,why? because they can work here.
So, to chinese,pls open your eyes. Most of you are arrogant, think that you much better than malay.
One thing you need to remember, you guys can never find place like malaysia where you can have a very good business, education on your own chinese school.We malay are being too polite to you.
have you ever heard "Sorang cina boleh survive dlm kampung melayu, tp sorang melayu xboleh survive dlm kampung cina"......
I know there are a good chinese out there, for them, thanks for being the true malaysian.....the other,
pleaaase don't make me feel more sick of you than i already have...
QUOTE(hanas @ Jan 23 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]3446026[/snapback]
I'm agree with you.
I really don't know why most chinese keep saying they are "abused" in malaysia.
If they really want to be singapore citizen, pls do so(that of course if singapore want to accept you as they also already crowded)and how about becoming china citizens? Do you know how many children you are allowed to have there? i'm sorry to say this, but most of GRO are from china,why? because they can work here.
So, to chinese,pls open your eyes. Most of you are arrogant, think that you much better than malay.
One thing you need to remember, you guys can never find place like malaysia where you can have a very good business, education on your own chinese school.We malay are being too polite to you.
I really don't know why most chinese keep saying they are "abused" in malaysia.
If they really want to be singapore citizen, pls do so(that of course if singapore want to accept you as they also already crowded)and how about becoming china citizens? Do you know how many children you are allowed to have there? i'm sorry to say this, but most of GRO are from china,why? because they can work here.
So, to chinese,pls open your eyes. Most of you are arrogant, think that you much better than malay.
One thing you need to remember, you guys can never find place like malaysia where you can have a very good business, education on your own chinese school.We malay are being too polite to you.
Which Chinese Malaysian has ever said they want to be Singaporean. If fact if you read all the posts its usually the Malays that are comparing Singapore with Malaysia. Trying to justify the discrimination in Malaysia because of the percieved discrimination in Singapore. Who cares what happens in Singapore. Why should Malaysian Chinese have to move or want to move, they are Malaysian after all.
By GRO I assume you mean illegal workers. The highest number of illegal workers in Malaysia are Indonesian, not from China.
The Chinese have opened their eyes and they see the discrimination they live with everyday, economically, religiously, academically and politically. We are not arrogant by wanting equal rights in fact you are arrogant by saying that we should be greatful for being discriminated against and for you being "polite" to us. The bottom line is that you don't feel that non Malays deserve equal treatment and you still see non Malays as "Pendatang Asing". This is very arrogant.
QUOTE(hanas @ Jan 23 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]3446026[/snapback]
have you ever heard "Sorang cina boleh survive dlm kampung melayu, tp sorang melayu xboleh survive dlm kampung cina"......
I know there are a good chinese out there, for them, thanks for being the true malaysian.....the other,
pleaaase don't make me feel more sick of you than i already have...
I know there are a good chinese out there, for them, thanks for being the true malaysian.....the other,
pleaaase don't make me feel more sick of you than i already have...
Don't try to impress us with your knowledge of proverbs, firstly there is no such thing as a wholly Chinese kampung anymore. Due to the NEP all housing estates have Bumi/Malay residents while there are still Kampungs which are still wholly Malay. And secondly show me any Malay person living in a predominantly Chinese community who is being persecuted.
Its very arrogant of you to also suggest that the only "good" Chinese are those that shut up and don't challange for what is an obviously discriminatory process in Malaysia. And I'll tell you that a "true" Malaysian is one who cares more about Malaysia, rather then their race, one that cares about all Malaysians regardless of race.
As for you feeling sick, well non Malays feel sick that they are treated as "Pendatang Asing" everyday, so if you feel sick good, now you know how non Malays feel. As for me personally if you feel sick by what I have said, well basically "itu kamu punya pasal".
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learn from the aussies. they fight for a better australia not fight for a better aboriginal or caucasian.....
Well, the aboriginal communities still at the bottom of Aussie social strata. Ozzies need to do more in that regard though, much need to be done.
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um.... the word assimilate is probaly a very bad word to use. it's very offensive to the cultures of each race if we have to assimilate. probaly mixing together but keep own unique identity is the better way
In MY, we don't assimilate, our holy mantra, "INTEGRATION".
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Hindraff was partly a religious demonstration as were the demonstrations regarding the Lina Joy case.
Hindraff demonstration is more to do with MY Indian plights, religious issue is played down minimally ... after the illegal riot was broken up by Police, then all the brouhaha BS about religious persecution, ethnic cleansing suddenly appear ... the fact that never happen in MY.
Lina Joy, since when there's a full-scale demonstration apart from small groups congregating outside MY court of her case?
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The bottom line is that you don't feel that non Malays deserve equal treatment and you still see non Malays as "Pendatang Asing".
Hardly, the 'Pendatang Asing' only conjures up Indonesian & Bangladeshi immigrants ... oohhhh yes, China PRC's GROs too ...
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firstly there is no such thing as a wholly Chinese kampung anymore
Aiyaaaaaaa, you lived down under, so you don't know jack! There's still Chinese New Villages, wholly dominated by Chinese in rural areas in MY. These villages existed even before MY independence, being a collective action by Britain to isolate Malayan Chinese rural communities from Malayan Communists Party influence & threats.
Never learn history, ahhh?
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And secondly show me any Malay person living in a predominantly Chinese community who is being persecuted.
And show me where any MY Chinese or MY Indian person living in a Malay kampung who is being persecuted, cleansed out, or even executed?
QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jan 24 2008, 02:06 AM) [snapback]3446897[/snapback]
Hardly, the 'Pendatang Asing' only conjures up Indonesian & Bangladeshi immigrants ... oohhhh yes, China PRC's GROs too ...
Proto weather you believe it or not there are still people who believe that non Malays are still "Pendatang Asing". Look at what their words say on this forum. They suggest that non Malays should be greatful for being discriminated against. How insulting to non Malays is that. Not only to be told that we are lesser then Malays but also that we should be greatful for it.
QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jan 24 2008, 02:06 AM) [snapback]3446897[/snapback]
Aiyaaaaaaa, you lived down under, so you don't know jack! There's still Chinese New Villages, wholly dominated by Chinese in rural areas in MY. These villages existed even before MY independence, being a collective action by Britain to isolate Malayan Chinese rural communities from Malayan Communists Party influence & threats. Never learn history, ahhh?
Any wholly Chinese areas must be pre NEP, in JB there is no wholly Chinese areas but there is still a Kampong Melayu, in fact more then one. I personally have no problem with there being a Kampong Melayu. In JB Malays have bought into wholly Chinese areas. I don't know if there is a kampong Cina anywhere else in Malaysia, but there isn't one in JB, not anymore anyway. But to me this is fine, integration is better then segregation.
QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jan 24 2008, 02:06 AM) [snapback]3446897[/snapback]
And show me where any MY Chinese or MY Indian person living in a Malay kampung who is being persecuted, cleansed out, or even executed?
I've never suggested that any Indian or Chinese living in a predominantly Malay area is persecuted but I challanged Hanas statement that "Chinese can live in a Malay area but Malay cannot live in a Chinese area". Basically this statement is full of crap and bigotry. However I never suggested that a Chinese/Indian cannot live in a Malay area peacefully. Where my family lived is a predominantly Chinese area but as kids, the Chinese and Malay kids played together(along with the occasional Indian kids and Eurasian kids). Ony difference was that because more of us spoke English as a first language, we tended to converse in English.
By the way he also suggested that I think Chinese are better then Malays, I never said or suggested any such thing and I certainly don't believe that. What I believe is Malaysia for all Malaysians. Its those people who feel that Malays deserve special prevelidges that believe that Malays are better then Chinese, otherwise how do they justify the special prevelidges.
QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jan 24 2008, 01:57 AM) [snapback]3446886[/snapback]
Hindraff demonstration is more to do with MY Indian plights, religious issue is played down minimally ... after the illegal riot was broken up by Police, then all the brouhaha BS about religious persecution, ethnic cleansing suddenly appear ... the fact that never happen in MY.
Lina Joy, since when there's a full-scale demonstration apart from small groups congregating outside MY court of her case?
Lina Joy, since when there's a full-scale demonstration apart from small groups congregating outside MY court of her case?
The Hindraff issue was sparked by the demolition of a Hindu temple. The only reason it was "illegal" was because the govnt wouldn't issue them a permit. According to Malaysian law a gathering of more then ?10 people without a permit is illegal so technically the Lina Joy demonstration was also illegal, so why not break them up as well.
The size of the Lina Joy demonstrations doesn't matter, the fact is that there were people demonstrating and as far as I could tell threathening violence if she was allowed to convert.
The issue and the point I was making is this. Do you feel there is more or less religious tolerance now compared to when Malaysia was formed 50 odd years ago?
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