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aaaw
Below is something that I've seen posted on various forums. It lists the racist crimes of the Malays against the Chinese. When will the Chinese pull their heads out of the sand and realize that the Malays are out to eliminate them entirely from Malaysia? The rich Chinese who thought they could continue to get rich by dominating the economy of Malaysia while the Malays dominate the Malaysian politics have now found they have lost all their assets such as banks, manufacturing corporations, trading corporations, hotels, etc. Even poor Chinese cannot get jobs as taxi drivers or bus drivers, let alone as police officers or military officers. And Chinese intellectuals have found they are squeezed out of the universities. So when will the Chinese wake up and do something? It should be obvious to them that if they don't do something soon, they will eventually find themselves become beggars with nothing but the tattered shirts on their backs.
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And today this is what happened in Malaysia racism,

These lists cover a period of about 49 years since Independence Day in Malaysia (1957):

(1) Out of all the 5 major banks in Malaysia , only one bank is own by multi-racial, the rest are controlled by Malays.

(2) 99% of Petronas (the only one petroleum company) directors are Malays, and the former Prime Minister work as Consultant in Petronas.

(3) 3% of Petronas employees are Chinese.

(4) 99% of 2000 Petronas gasoline stations are owned by Malays.

(5) 100% all contractors working under Petronas projects must be "bumi's status" (Malay).

(6) 0% of non-Malays staffs are legally required in Malay's companies. But there must be 30% Malays staffs in Chinese companies. And big companies in Malaysia require a Malays hold as director status with 51% shareholder. Which this mean non-Malays own company needs to give their property to Malays. And non-Malays citizen can't really own their business.

(7) 5% of all new intake for government police, nurses, army, is non-Malays.

(8) 2% is the present Chinese staff in Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF), drop from 40% in 1960.

(9) 2% is the percentage of non-Malays government servants in Putrajaya ( Malaysia main government office). But Malays make up 98%.

(10) 7% is the percentage of Chinese government servants in the whole government (in 2004), drop from 30% in 1960. Only 2 position for non-Malays in political status.

(11) 95% of government contracts are given to Malays; even it is an open tender. Non-Malays contractors tender the lower price and use better materials can't get the contract that government given.

(12) 100% all business licensees are controlled by Malay government e.g. Taxi permits, Approved permits, etc. and all the license are given to government officer families.

(13) 80% of the Chinese rice millers in Kedah (north of peninsular Malaysia ) had to be sold to Malay and controlled by Bernas (Government Org.) since 1980s. Otherwise, life is make difficult for Chinese rice millers.

(14) 100 big companies set up, owned and managed by Chinese Malaysians were taken over by government, and later managed by Malays since 1970's e.g. UTC, UMBC, MISC, etc. This company now is the sole company.

(15) At least 10 Chinese owned bus companies (throughout Malaysia, throughout 40 years) had to be sold to MARA or other Malay transport companies due to rejection by Malay authority to Chinese application for bus routes and rejection for their application for new buses.

(16) 2 Chinese taxi drivers were barred from driving in Johor (South of Peninsular Malaysia) Larkin bus station. There are about 30 taxi drivers and 3 are Chinese in October 2004. Spoiling taxi club properties was the reason given.

(17) 0 non-Malays are allowed to get shop lots in the new Muar (city in south peninsular Malaysia) bus station (November 2004).

(18) 8000 billions ringgit is the total amount the government channeled to Malays pockets through ASB, ASN, MARA, privatization of government agencies like Tabung Haji etc, through NEP over 34 years periods.

(19) 48 Chinese primary schools closed down since 1968 - 2000

(20) 144 Indian primary schools closed down since 1968 - 2000

(21) 2637 Malay primary schools built since 1968 - 2000

(22) 2.5% is government budget for Chinese primary schools. Indian schools got only 1%, Malay schools got 96.5%.

(23) while a Chinese parent with RM1000 salary (monthly) cannot get school-text-book-loan, and a
Malay parent with RM2000 salary is eligible.

(24) 10 all public universities vice chancellors are Malays. And politics in universities are held by Malays. If non-Malays want to form a politics parties, there is no way to get approved.

(25) 5% - the government universities lecturers of non-Malay origins had been reduced from about 70% in
1965 to only 5% in 2004 with the reason Malaysia Education Ministry give full support for Malays only.

(26) Only 5% is given to non-Malays for government scholarships over 40 years.

(27) 0 Chinese or Indians were sent to Japan and Korea under "Look East Policy".

(28) 128 STPM (High Study / A Level) Chinese top students could not get into the course that they aspired i.e. Medicine and doctors (in 2004). Malays with not qualify result can get into the course.

(29) 10% place for non-bumi students for MARA science schools beginning from year 2003, but only 7% are filled. Before that it was 100% Malays.

(30) 50 cases whereby Chinese and Indian Malaysians, are beaten up in the National Service program since
2003.

(31) 25% is Malaysian Chinese population in 2004, drop from 45% since 1957 because government are not
support non-Malays like government support Malays.

(32) 7% is the present Malaysian Indians population (2004), a drop from 12% since 1957.

(33) 2 millions Chinese Malaysians had emigrated to overseas since 40 years ago due to unfair politics.

(34) 0.5 million Indians Malaysians had emigrated to overseas.

(35) 3 millions Indonesians had migrated into Malaysia and became Malaysian citizens with bumi's status.

(36) 600,000 are the Chinese and Indians Malaysians with "red I/C" (a temporary identity card) and were
rejected repeatedly when applying for citizenship for 40 years. Perhaps 60% of them had already passed
away due to old age. This shows racism of how easily Indonesians got their citizenships compare with the
Chinese and Indians

(37) 5% - 15% discount for a Malay to buy a house, regardless whether the Malay is rich or poor

(38) 2% is what Chinese new villages get compare with 98% of what Malays villages got for rural development budget..

(39) 50 road names (at least) had been change from Chinese names to other names.

(40) 1 Dewan Gan Boon Leong (in Malacca) was altered to other name (e.g. Dewan Serbaguna or sort) when it was being officially used for a few days. Government tries to shun Chinese names. This racism happened in around year 2000 or sort.

(41) 0 temples/churches were built for each housing estate. But every housing estate MUST got at least
one mosque/surau built.

(42) 3000 mosques/surau were built in all housing estates throughout Malaysia since 1970 with full
government support. No temples, no churches are built in housing estates that supported by government.

(43) 1 Catholic Church in Shah Alam took 20 years to apply to be constructed. But told by Malay authority
that it must look like a factory and can't look like a church. Still not yet approved since 2004.

(44) 1 publishing of Bible in Iban language banned (in 2002)

(45) 0 of the government TV stations (RTM1,RTM2,TV3) are directors of non-Malays origin.

(46) 30 government produced TV dramas and films always showed that the bad guys had Chinese face,
and the good guys had Malay face. You can check it out since 1970s. Recent years, this tendency becomes less.

(47) 10 times, at least, Malays (especially Umno) had threatened to massacre the Chinese Malaysians
using May 13 since 1969.

(48) 20 constituencies won by DAP would not get funds from the government to develop. Or these Chinese majority constituencies would be the last to be developed

(49) 100 constituencies (parliaments and states) had been racist re-delineated so Chinese voters were
diluted that Chinese candidates, particularly DAP candidates lost in election since 1970s

(50) Only 3 out of 12 human rights items are ratified by Malaysia government since 1960

(51) 0 elimination of, all forms of racial discrimination (UN Human Rights) is not ratified by Malaysia government since 1960s

(52) 20 reported cases whereby Malay ambulance attendance treated Chinese patients inhumanely, and
Malay government hospital staffs purposely delay attending to Chinese patients in 2003. Unreported
cases may be 200

(53) 50 cases each year whereby Chinese, especially Chinese youths being beaten up by Malay youths in
public places. We may check at police reports provided the police took the report, otherwise there
will be no record

(54) 20 cases every year whereby Chinese drivers who accidentally knocked down Malays were seriously
assaulted or killed by Malays

(55) 12% is what ASB/ASN (Malays Own banks) got per annum while banks fixed deposit is only about 3.5% per annum.

(56) The latest news about the police in Malaysia. Believe that the Malaysia police officer have caught
a Chinese girl and punish her with naked body nearby the windows that other people (believe that is
police officer) can took video recording via mobile phones. This news spread to China , and finally
Malaysia government told to public that is Malay girl. After that there's no more news about the
case.

And more cases haven't been discovered.

So, if any Malaysian read this mail and got extra opinion please add into this mail and forward to everyone who feel this is unfair to other race in Malaysia .

Your forward mail will be much appreciated.

FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN RACE....

Thank you,

From,
Malaysian Race Humanity 2006
Malaysian_humanity@yahoo.com


http://www.network54.com/Forum/238054/thre...+ethnic+Chinese
HangPC2
nih copy paste..... hmmm singapoyo..
Wulandari
QUOTE(aaaw @ Nov 17 2006, 09:17 AM) [snapback]2489830[/snapback]

Below is something that I've seen posted on various forums. It lists the racist crimes of the Malays against the Chinese. When will the Chinese pull their heads out of the sand and realize that the Malays are out to eliminate them entirely from Malaysia? The rich Chinese who thought they could continue to get rich by dominating the economy of Malaysia while the Malays dominate the Malaysian politics have now found they have lost all their assets such as banks, manufacturing corporations, trading corporations, hotels, etc. Even poor Chinese cannot get jobs as taxi drivers or bus drivers, let alone as police officers or military officers. And Chinese intellectuals have found they are squeezed out of the universities. So when will the Chinese wake up and do something? It should be obvious to them that if they don't do something soon, they will eventually find themselves become beggars with nothing but the tattered shirts on their backs.
==============================

And today this is what happened in Malaysia racism,

These lists cover a period of about 49 years since Independence Day in Malaysia (1957):

(1) Out of all the 5 major banks in Malaysia , only one bank is own by multi-racial, the rest are controlled by Malays.

(2) 99% of Petronas (the only one petroleum company) directors are Malays, and the former Prime Minister work as Consultant in Petronas.

(3) 3% of Petronas employees are Chinese.

(4) 99% of 2000 Petronas gasoline stations are owned by Malays.

(5) 100% all contractors working under Petronas projects must be "bumi's status" (Malay).

(6) 0% of non-Malays staffs are legally required in Malay's companies. But there must be 30% Malays staffs in Chinese companies. And big companies in Malaysia require a Malays hold as director status with 51% shareholder. Which this mean non-Malays own company needs to give their property to Malays. And non-Malays citizen can't really own their business.

(7) 5% of all new intake for government police, nurses, army, is non-Malays.

(8) 2% is the present Chinese staff in Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF), drop from 40% in 1960.

(9) 2% is the percentage of non-Malays government servants in Putrajaya ( Malaysia main government office). But Malays make up 98%.

(10) 7% is the percentage of Chinese government servants in the whole government (in 2004), drop from 30% in 1960. Only 2 position for non-Malays in political status.

(11) 95% of government contracts are given to Malays; even it is an open tender. Non-Malays contractors tender the lower price and use better materials can't get the contract that government given.

(12) 100% all business licensees are controlled by Malay government e.g. Taxi permits, Approved permits, etc. and all the license are given to government officer families.

(13) 80% of the Chinese rice millers in Kedah (north of peninsular Malaysia ) had to be sold to Malay and controlled by Bernas (Government Org.) since 1980s. Otherwise, life is make difficult for Chinese rice millers.

(14) 100 big companies set up, owned and managed by Chinese Malaysians were taken over by government, and later managed by Malays since 1970's e.g. UTC, UMBC, MISC, etc. This company now is the sole company.

(15) At least 10 Chinese owned bus companies (throughout Malaysia, throughout 40 years) had to be sold to MARA or other Malay transport companies due to rejection by Malay authority to Chinese application for bus routes and rejection for their application for new buses.

(16) 2 Chinese taxi drivers were barred from driving in Johor (South of Peninsular Malaysia) Larkin bus station. There are about 30 taxi drivers and 3 are Chinese in October 2004. Spoiling taxi club properties was the reason given.

(17) 0 non-Malays are allowed to get shop lots in the new Muar (city in south peninsular Malaysia) bus station (November 2004).

(18) 8000 billions ringgit is the total amount the government channeled to Malays pockets through ASB, ASN, MARA, privatization of government agencies like Tabung Haji etc, through NEP over 34 years periods.

(19) 48 Chinese primary schools closed down since 1968 - 2000

(20) 144 Indian primary schools closed down since 1968 - 2000

(21) 2637 Malay primary schools built since 1968 - 2000

(22) 2.5% is government budget for Chinese primary schools. Indian schools got only 1%, Malay schools got 96.5%.

(23) while a Chinese parent with RM1000 salary (monthly) cannot get school-text-book-loan, and a
Malay parent with RM2000 salary is eligible.

(24) 10 all public universities vice chancellors are Malays. And politics in universities are held by Malays. If non-Malays want to form a politics parties, there is no way to get approved.

(25) 5% - the government universities lecturers of non-Malay origins had been reduced from about 70% in
1965 to only 5% in 2004 with the reason Malaysia Education Ministry give full support for Malays only.

(26) Only 5% is given to non-Malays for government scholarships over 40 years.

(27) 0 Chinese or Indians were sent to Japan and Korea under "Look East Policy".

(28) 128 STPM (High Study / A Level) Chinese top students could not get into the course that they aspired i.e. Medicine and doctors (in 2004). Malays with not qualify result can get into the course.

(29) 10% place for non-bumi students for MARA science schools beginning from year 2003, but only 7% are filled. Before that it was 100% Malays.

(30) 50 cases whereby Chinese and Indian Malaysians, are beaten up in the National Service program since
2003.

(31) 25% is Malaysian Chinese population in 2004, drop from 45% since 1957 because government are not
support non-Malays like government support Malays.

(32) 7% is the present Malaysian Indians population (2004), a drop from 12% since 1957.

(33) 2 millions Chinese Malaysians had emigrated to overseas since 40 years ago due to unfair politics.

(34) 0.5 million Indians Malaysians had emigrated to overseas.

(35) 3 millions Indonesians had migrated into Malaysia and became Malaysian citizens with bumi's status.

(36) 600,000 are the Chinese and Indians Malaysians with "red I/C" (a temporary identity card) and were
rejected repeatedly when applying for citizenship for 40 years. Perhaps 60% of them had already passed
away due to old age. This shows racism of how easily Indonesians got their citizenships compare with the
Chinese and Indians

(37) 5% - 15% discount for a Malay to buy a house, regardless whether the Malay is rich or poor

(38) 2% is what Chinese new villages get compare with 98% of what Malays villages got for rural development budget..

(39) 50 road names (at least) had been change from Chinese names to other names.

(40) 1 Dewan Gan Boon Leong (in Malacca) was altered to other name (e.g. Dewan Serbaguna or sort) when it was being officially used for a few days. Government tries to shun Chinese names. This racism happened in around year 2000 or sort.

(41) 0 temples/churches were built for each housing estate. But every housing estate MUST got at least
one mosque/surau built.

(42) 3000 mosques/surau were built in all housing estates throughout Malaysia since 1970 with full
government support. No temples, no churches are built in housing estates that supported by government.

(43) 1 Catholic Church in Shah Alam took 20 years to apply to be constructed. But told by Malay authority
that it must look like a factory and can't look like a church. Still not yet approved since 2004.

(44) 1 publishing of Bible in Iban language banned (in 2002)

(45) 0 of the government TV stations (RTM1,RTM2,TV3) are directors of non-Malays origin.

(46) 30 government produced TV dramas and films always showed that the bad guys had Chinese face,
and the good guys had Malay face. You can check it out since 1970s. Recent years, this tendency becomes less.

(47) 10 times, at least, Malays (especially Umno) had threatened to massacre the Chinese Malaysians
using May 13 since 1969.

(48) 20 constituencies won by DAP would not get funds from the government to develop. Or these Chinese majority constituencies would be the last to be developed

(49) 100 constituencies (parliaments and states) had been racist re-delineated so Chinese voters were
diluted that Chinese candidates, particularly DAP candidates lost in election since 1970s

(50) Only 3 out of 12 human rights items are ratified by Malaysia government since 1960

(51) 0 elimination of, all forms of racial discrimination (UN Human Rights) is not ratified by Malaysia government since 1960s

(52) 20 reported cases whereby Malay ambulance attendance treated Chinese patients inhumanely, and
Malay government hospital staffs purposely delay attending to Chinese patients in 2003. Unreported
cases may be 200

(53) 50 cases each year whereby Chinese, especially Chinese youths being beaten up by Malay youths in
public places. We may check at police reports provided the police took the report, otherwise there
will be no record

(54) 20 cases every year whereby Chinese drivers who accidentally knocked down Malays were seriously
assaulted or killed by Malays

(55) 12% is what ASB/ASN (Malays Own banks) got per annum while banks fixed deposit is only about 3.5% per annum.

(56) The latest news about the police in Malaysia. Believe that the Malaysia police officer have caught
a Chinese girl and punish her with naked body nearby the windows that other people (believe that is
police officer) can took video recording via mobile phones. This news spread to China , and finally
Malaysia government told to public that is Malay girl. After that there's no more news about the
case.

And more cases haven't been discovered.

So, if any Malaysian read this mail and got extra opinion please add into this mail and forward to everyone who feel this is unfair to other race in Malaysia .

Your forward mail will be much appreciated.

FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN RACE....

Thank you,

From,
Malaysian Race Humanity 2006
Malaysian_humanity@yahoo.com
http://www.network54.com/Forum/238054/thre...+ethnic+Chinese






Oh my gosh....

I know for a long time that Indons are very racist to Chinese. But, I just realize now that Malays are very racist to Chinese too.

Having half Indon blood in my body makes me feel very uncomfortable.

I wish I were 100% Chinese

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1+1
I think the list is longer. You forgot number 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62........
I've seen this being copied and pasted in so many forums. Get a life!
Cookielover
Life in Malaysia is much better for the ethnic Malays nowadays.
pancaindera
i think some of the points in the list are true. and even more annoying that in the umno meeting they didnt show any intention to abolish nep, at least in the near future..thumbsdown.gif

in the mean time they do stuff like this. are these true???
QUOTE

(43) 1 Catholic Church in Shah Alam took 20 years to apply to be constructed. But told by Malay authority
that it must look like a factory and can't look like a church. Still not yet approved since 2004.

(44) 1 publishing of Bible in Iban language banned (in 2002)
Wulandari
QUOTE(1+1 @ Nov 18 2006, 07:06 PM) [snapback]2493430[/snapback]

I think the list is longer. You forgot number 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62........
I've seen this being copied and pasted in so many forums. Get a life!





I disagree with you, my dear.

All civilized human beings must spread these Malay's NAZI treatments on minority Chinese and Indians to the world.

Those NAZIs must be humiliated and condemned in public. The world must know NAZI still exists in Malaysia, Malay NAZI.

Are you part of Malay NAZI, my dear?
Bringer_Of_Death
QUOTE(pancaindera @ Nov 19 2006, 09:30 AM) [snapback]2493729[/snapback]

i think some of the points in the list are true. and even more annoying that in the umno meeting they didnt show any intention to abolish nep, at least in the near future..thumbsdown.gif

in the mean time they do stuff like this. are these true???



Yes it's true. There are unreported stories told that to get the approval to build a church is very difficult. There is no Malay or Iban translation for the Christian bible.

The news told here by Malaysian-Christians who migrated all here in Australia.
Malaysian Christians who are living in Malaysia are having a difficult time preaching their religion.

It seems the malays do not like Christianity presence in Malaysia.
In my point of view they are afraid, very afraid and insecure people.

Did you know the movie " The Passion of The Christ" is banned? Just because they don't want people to see and believe about Christ. The religious leaders in Malaysia are afraid that their own people will be curious enough to learn about Christianity and to find a new belief that they could hold on with their own free will.

Isn't it sad?

Not only that they go so far as to deny the Malayan history.

They even remove the legendary "Hang" heroes from history test books after Malaysian archaeologist found out that they were not malay but Chinese who played an important role in helping the Sultan of Kelantan establish a firm hold of his kingdom.

There were articles and reports showing that the archaeologist found evidence from a recent discovery of an ancient city that they have uncovered in the region.

I see the Malays in Malaysia are living in a world of self-denial and to live in denial is to lose your willingness to listen and to learn.

To Christians this is SIN. It is not even ethical in worldly point of view.

So they stay unchanged from the past, the present and the future.

Unless someone with a lot of influence decides to knock their heads together and wake them up.

They will always stay the same.

Stagnant.

Unlearning.

Unimproving.
swingdoctor
QUOTE(pancaindera @ Nov 18 2006, 08:30 PM) [snapback]2493729[/snapback]

i think some of the points in the list are true. and even more annoying that in the umno meeting they didnt show any intention to abolish nep, at least in the near future..thumbsdown.gif

in the mean time they do stuff like this. are these true???

Unfortunately, there isn't religious equality in Malaysia, it is very difficult to get a permit to build a Church but Mosques are built by funds from the government.
ricochet
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Nov 19 2006, 07:40 PM) [snapback]2494828[/snapback]

Unfortunately, there isn't religious equality in Malaysia, it is very difficult to get a permit to build a Church but Mosques are built by funds from the government.


I wondor how non malays live these days.....cuz when I went back the other day....it seems everything is being dominated by 1 race
Bringer_Of_Death
^ Anguish, sadness and dispair?

At least those who are religious. Those who are not will still get by without a god.

They even go so far to demolish religious temples for the sake of a development project that will bring only short term benefits.

Sick isn't it?

"Malaysia truly Asia" that is what the tourism advertisment is saying Malaysia as being multicultural is a just lie.

It's just an eye candy to say how peaceful we are just to attract foreigners and earn tax revenue.

The government has no real concern for the people who are in the minority.

They're only happy to serve the demands of the majority.
And the representitives of each race so far haven't made any dramatic changes.
It is hard because everytime we raise a banner of protest it will be snuffed out immediately.

But we will still fight, we will still compete, we will still demand justice.
As long as Malaysia is not monogamious. We will still fight with every last drop of blood.


1+1
QUOTE(Wulandari @ Nov 18 2006, 11:06 PM) [snapback]2494233[/snapback]

I disagree with you, my dear.

All civilized human beings must spread these Malay's NAZI treatments on minority Chinese and Indians to the world.

Those NAZIs must be humiliated and condemned in public. The world must know NAZI still exists in Malaysia, Malay NAZI.

Are you part of Malay NAZI, my dear?



Let see, Chinese + Indian = almost 50% of Malaysian population. Muslim Malays constitute less than 50%, I think about 48%. The rest are bumiputras from Sabah & Sarawak. What minority are you talking about? Get your fact straight.

If the Chinese and Indian want (or united), they can take over the country politically. It is only natural for Malay to safeguard their interest, especially with this slim majority. Anyway, have you ever been to Malaysia? Do you think those Americans really welcome you there? I didn't think so.

Ever heard race discrimination in America, employment, housing, loan etc? Ever heard about affirmative action? So, don't be a hypocrit. Plus, this is our internal affair, not yours. Those who don't like the system are free to elect oppositions, but they overwhelmingly brought back BN government. Why? No, I am not a full government supporter, but the oppositions are even worst.

Also, in the era of globalization, they are free to move, work or settle anywhere. What I can tell you is 99% of those who studied overseas (Malay or not) eventually will come back to Malaysia. So, tell me, if life is so unbearable in Malaysia, why all these graduates are flocking back to Malaysia?

I am just like you, part Chinese. So don't talk about all these Malay Nazi craps to me.

HangPC2
woooooo Malay Nazi serupa macam ucapan Bush kata Islam Facist macam tak da ayat lain... woi basi lah!
Betong
QUOTE(Wulandari @ Nov 17 2006, 11:35 PM) [snapback]2491833[/snapback]

Oh my gosh....

I know for a long time that Indons are very racist to Chinese. But, I just realize now that Malays are very racist to Chinese too.

Having half Indon blood in my body makes me feel very uncomfortable.

I wish I were 100% Chinese

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If you are 100% Chinese... So what???....Humanrace doesn't make any human feel comfortable, isn't it???

QUOTE(Wulandari @ Nov 19 2006, 12:06 AM) [snapback]2494233[/snapback]

I disagree with you, my dear.

All civilized human beings must spread these Malay's NAZI treatments on minority Chinese and Indians to the world.

Those NAZIs must be humiliated and condemned in public. The world must know NAZI still exists in Malaysia, Malay NAZI.

Are you part of Malay NAZI, my dear?

I have to believe you don't even no what NAZI means???

QUOTE(1+1 @ Nov 19 2006, 07:14 PM) [snapback]2496314[/snapback]

Let see, Chinese + Indian = almost 50% of Malaysian population. Muslim Malays constitute less than 50%, I think about 48%. The rest are bumiputras from Sabah & Sarawak. What minority are you talking about? Get your fact straight.

If the Chinese and Indian want (or united), they can take over the country politically. It is only natural for Malay to safeguard their interest, especially with this slim majority. Anyway, have you ever been to Malaysia? Do you think those Americans really welcome you there? I didn't think so.

Ever heard race discrimination in America, employment, housing, loan etc? Ever heard about affirmative action? So, don't be a hypocrit. Plus, this is our internal affair, not yours. Those who don't like the system are free to elect oppositions, but they overwhelmingly brought back BN government. Why? No, I am not a full government supporter, but the oppositions are even worst.

Also, in the era of globalization, they are free to move, work or settle anywhere. What I can tell you is 99% of those who studied overseas (Malay or not) eventually will come back to Malaysia. So, tell me, if life is so unbearable in Malaysia, why all these graduates are flocking back to Malaysia?

I am just like you, part Chinese. So don't talk about all these Malay Nazi craps to me.


Whose in BN??? Pls don't only blame MALAY... Blame them all.
swingdoctor
QUOTE(1+1 @ Nov 19 2006, 07:14 PM) [snapback]2496314[/snapback]

Let see, Chinese + Indian = almost 50% of Malaysian population. Muslim Malays constitute less than 50%, I think about 48%. The rest are bumiputras from Sabah & Sarawak. What minority are you talking about? Get your fact straight.

If the Chinese and Indian want (or united), they can take over the country politically. It is only natural for Malay to safeguard their interest, especially with this slim majority. Anyway, have you ever been to Malaysia? Do you think those Americans really welcome you there? I didn't think so.

Ever heard race discrimination in America, employment, housing, loan etc? Ever heard about affirmative action? So, don't be a hypocrit. Plus, this is our internal affair, not yours. Those who don't like the system are free to elect oppositions, but they overwhelmingly brought back BN government. Why? No, I am not a full government supporter, but the oppositions are even worst.

Also, in the era of globalization, they are free to move, work or settle anywhere. What I can tell you is 99% of those who studied overseas (Malay or not) eventually will come back to Malaysia. So, tell me, if life is so unbearable in Malaysia, why all these graduates are flocking back to Malaysia?

I am just like you, part Chinese. So don't talk about all these Malay Nazi craps to me.

I don't agree with Wulandari but, Malays make up 60% of the population in Malaysia. There is discrimination in every country, just a matter of how much, however institutionalied discrimination occurs in only 2 countries that I can think of, Malaysia and South Africa.
Most countries requires overseas students to return to their home country before they can apply to migrate. I don't know how you know that 99% of Malaysians return back to Malaysia following overseas study. Does this figure incluude scolarship students or private students only?
Bringer_Of_Death
QUOTE(1+1 @ Nov 20 2006, 08:14 AM) [snapback]2496314[/snapback]


Also, in the era of globalization, they are free to move, work or settle anywhere. What I can tell you is 99% of those who studied overseas (Malay or not) eventually will come back to Malaysia. So, tell me, if life is so unbearable in Malaysia, why all these graduates are flocking back to Malaysia?

I am just like you, part Chinese. So don't talk about all these Malay Nazi craps to me.


99%?

Where did you get that figure?

Please show the source?

I don't even think 99% of Graduated Malaysians have gone back.

And there are some who did go back might be because:

1) They cannot find a job in their field and being picky about the job.
2) Lack of good written english so they can write a very well presented resume that will win them an interview.
3) Lack of working experience in whatever field that is not according to their profession. This will show their adaptability.
4) Communication skills
5) Analytical and problem solving skills
6) Time management and organization skills
7) Computer literatecy
8) The willingness to learn and to develop new skills
9) and being dependable to the company (excersizing extreme independance at the same time being dependable to the company).
10) Confidence and can do attitude

These are the main factors which might result those Malaysian graduates going back home.
If these main points are too much for any Malaysian STUDENT right now you will NOT be able to survive working in a foreign country.

It applies to whichever country Malaysian undergraduates are studying it.
Now don't act innocent cause there are reports about many Malaysian Undergraduates who are studying in Malaysia are having a hard time coping with these main points above.

How do you expect to work in another country even your own if you cannot acomplish the main points above?

Tell me that?
maldini
99%? are u talking abt government sponsored students? then yes... cos most of them can hardly survive if they leaving msia to work elsewhere LOL!!!

if you talking abt ALL students, then i am in the 1%.... there are many of them from msia same as me as well

1+1,

btw, non-bumi can never dominate msia politically.... pls study malaysia law a bit before u making a fool of yourself. chinese dominated msia economically... but UMNO POLITICALLY trying to shift that power to MALAY(or BUMI if you want to argue)... so that they can have BOTH.
Imagine now non-bumi have the edge, next time when non-bumi economically weak in msia... what do u think will happen to non-bumi? will government help them? LOL
Bhaskara
I just want to tell my Malaysian friends not to get frustrated by Wulandari who is a lame chinazi who poses as an Indonesian. He's a flamer and pls, any resentments toward her, don't blame all Indonesians for it. Thanks!
Betong
QUOTE(maldini @ Nov 20 2006, 03:53 AM) [snapback]2498060[/snapback]

99%? are u talking abt government sponsored students? then yes... cos most of them can hardly survive if they leaving msia to work elsewhere LOL!!!

if you talking abt ALL students, then i am in the 1%.... there are many of them from msia same as me as well

1+1,

btw, non-bumi can never dominate msia politically.... pls study malaysia law a bit before u making a fool of yourself. chinese dominated msia economically... but UMNO POLITICALLY trying to shift that power to MALAY(or BUMI if you want to argue)... so that they can have BOTH.
Imagine now non-bumi have the edge, next time when non-bumi economically weak in msia... what do u think will happen to non-bumi? will government help them? LOL

They always talk but just talk without substance. I remember KJ said in last UMNO assembly, if they want BUMI to have 75% share of equity, there was nothing non-malay can do about it...

QUOTE(Bhaskara @ Nov 20 2006, 06:57 AM) [snapback]2498247[/snapback]

I just want to tell my Malaysian friends not to get frustrated by Wulandari who is a lame chinazi who poses as an Indonesian. He's a flamer and pls, any resentments toward her, don't blame all Indonesians for it. Thanks!

We realize not all Indonesian who was so racist like she was...
1+1
QUOTE(Bringer_Of_Death @ Nov 19 2006, 09:19 PM) [snapback]2496965[/snapback]

99%?

And there are some who did go back might be because:

1) They cannot find a job in their field and being picky about the job.
2) Lack of good written english so they can write a very well presented resume that will win them an interview.
3) Lack of working experience in whatever field that is not according to their profession. This will show their adaptability.
4) Communication skills
5) Analytical and problem solving skills
6) Time management and organization skills
7) Computer literatecy
8) The willingness to learn and to develop new skills
9) and being dependable to the company (excersizing extreme independance at the same time being dependable to the company).
10) Confidence and can do attitude



Pity to my Malaysian Chinese friends who ALL went home in a hurry, leaving me here alone. Sorry Bringer bro, those are all your cousins.


QUOTE(Bringer_Of_Death @ Nov 19 2006, 09:19 PM) [snapback]2496965[/snapback]

99%?

How do you expect to work in another country even your own if you cannot acomplish the main points above?

Tell me that?


Did I tell that I was being left alone by those no good friends? Opps, yes I did. So, long story short, I actually survive. In the process, I have a nice 3 bedrooms, 2 1/2 bath house, two cars and a Harley. Not bad for a small town boy who still speak broken English every now and then.
1+1
QUOTE(maldini @ Nov 20 2006, 02:53 AM) [snapback]2498060[/snapback]


btw, non-bumi can never dominate msia politically.... pls study malaysia law a bit before u making a fool of yourself.



When you can find your missing neurons, please let me know. So Malaysian law is so holy, that it cannont be ammended? Okay, they did try, the illegal way, but failed. Remember Communist insurgency? Who saved BN during the 99 election (or was it 95?) when UMNO lost many of its seats?. It was MCA and Gerakan!



QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Nov 19 2006, 08:56 PM) [snapback]2496875[/snapback]

II don't know how you know that 99% of Malaysians return back to Malaysia following overseas study. Does this figure incluude scolarship students or private students only?


It was just a number. What I really meant was majority of Malaysian graduates EVENTUALLY end up back home. Who knows what the actually number is.
swingdoctor
QUOTE(1+1 @ Nov 20 2006, 07:19 PM) [snapback]2499863[/snapback]

Pity to my Malaysian Chinese friends who ALL went home in a hurry, leaving me here alone. Sorry Bringer bro, those are all your cousins.

Did I tell that I was being left alone by those no good friends? Opps, yes I did. So, long story short, I actually survive. In the process, I have a nice 3 bedrooms, 2 1/2 bath house, two cars and a Harley. Not bad for a small town boy who still speak broken English every now and then.

I don't think anybody cares how good your English is or where you have come from. If you've worked hard and succeeded in life, we would just be happy for you, and congratulate you. But, as long as the NEP is in place the non-Bumis will never have an equal footing and will never be completely satisfied.

QUOTE(1+1 @ Nov 20 2006, 07:34 PM) [snapback]2499907[/snapback]

It was just a number. What I really meant was majority of Malaysian graduates EVENTUALLY end up back home. Who knows what the actually number is.

Why shouldn't ALL Malysians want to go home?

QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 20 2006, 06:04 PM) [snapback]2499640[/snapback]

They always talk but just talk without substance. I remember KJ said in last UMNO assembly, if they want BUMI to have 75% share of equity, there was nothing non-malay can do about it...

This is very scary, that a politician who seemingly is in line to be a future PM could speak like this.
1+1
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Nov 20 2006, 06:39 PM) [snapback]2499925[/snapback]

Why shouldn't ALL Malysians want to go home?



So why all those students from India, China, Pakistan, Phillipines, Nigeria etc end up not going home?
Malay_guy
cbut i think the same thing happen in Thailand and it also happen in Singapore, a country so adored by the malaysian chinese. in Singapore, there's a limit to a number and the size of a mosque that can be build. they also banned an azan. also there's a quota for a number of malays who can join the SAF and no malays can become officer, just a lowly grunt. so what? should i call Lee Kuan Yew and Goh Chok Tong a NAZI? . face it. this chinese right group only whining because they feel they were being discriminated now. If situation were reverse, i believe they'll do the same. in fact, maybe worst.
maldini
QUOTE(1+1 @ Nov 21 2006, 08:34 AM) [snapback]2499907[/snapback]

When you can find your missing neurons, please let me know. So Malaysian law is so holy, that it cannont be ammended? Okay, they did try, the illegal way, but failed. Remember Communist insurgency? Who saved BN during the 99 election (or was it 95?) when UMNO lost many of its seats?. It was MCA and Gerakan!


lol... don't say change law regarding this issue. to express ur view alone u might be charged already and accused of trying to destablize this country. lets not kid ourself k?

MCA and Gerakan? again, they are just patung in BN... being dragged along by UMNO. do they really have any say? i doubt so laugh.gif
swingdoctor
QUOTE(Malay_guy @ Nov 20 2006, 08:18 PM) [snapback]2500031[/snapback]

cbut i think the same thing happen in Thailand and it also happen in Singapore, a country so adored by the malaysian chinese. in Singapore, there's a limit to a number and the size of a mosque that can be build. they also banned an azan. also there's a quota for a number of malays who can join the SAF and no malays can become officer, just a lowly grunt. so what? should i call Lee Kuan Yew and Goh Chok Tong a NAZI? . face it. this chinese right group only whining because they feel they were being discriminated now. If situation were reverse, i believe they'll do the same. in fact, maybe worst.

You should speak to ytching, according to him, Malays are not banned from becoming officers. I'm not aware of mosques being subject to different rules as to other religious institutions.
Singapore does not have institutionalised discrimination, Malaysia does.
I don't know any Chinese Malaysian who who so adores Singapore.
Malay_guy
This Malay own land and you immigrants doesn't have a right to complain. We don't put you in a concentration camp and you should be grateful. You can have big house, big cars and big everything. you can do open up business all you want and we don't stop you. If you don't satisfy with our hospitality, go run back to China or Taiwan or Singapore or wherever there's no "discrimination".
maldini
QUOTE(Malay_guy @ Nov 22 2006, 07:50 AM) [snapback]2502859[/snapback]

This Malay own land and you immigrants doesn't have a right to complain. We don't put you in a concentration camp and you should be grateful. You can have big house, big cars and big everything. you can do open up business all you want and we don't stop you. If you don't satisfy with our hospitality, go run back to China or Taiwan or Singapore or wherever there's no "discrimination".


LOL.... typical answer from a loser that can't take any bad comment. they only like to listen to good thing thumbsdown.gif
btw, go and read the defination of immigrants before u making fool of yourself.

Bringer_Of_Death
QUOTE(1+1 @ Nov 21 2006, 08:19 AM) [snapback]2499863[/snapback]

Pity to my Malaysian Chinese friends who ALL went home in a hurry, leaving me here alone. Sorry Bringer bro, those are all your cousins.

My cousins?

laugh.gif

My cousins are all living happily with their PR status in US, Canada, England and Singapore. One of them is already married, 2 of them have Canadian Masters and another graduated in Law degree. The rest are trying to establish a foothold in their resedential countries.

My family are like pioneers and they have all acomplished the main objectives that I have listed above.
So there you have it a bunch of pioneers. laugh.gif

And it is about time that I become one too for I have just graduated overseas.

:P

QUOTE

Did I tell that I was being left alone by those no good friends? Opps, yes I did. So, long story short, I actually survive. In the process, I have a nice 3 bedrooms, 2 1/2 bath house, two cars and a Harley. Not bad for a small town boy who still speak broken English every now and then.

That's good! biggthumpup.gif

You've already made it. Me I am still starting my life here in Australia.

I choose to stay behind while others go back just after they graduated.
Why did I do it because I choose to compete even though I am against all odds.
Even if it is hard I still fight.



Alanna
QUOTE(Malay_guy @ Nov 22 2006, 07:50 AM) [snapback]2502859[/snapback]

This Malay own land and you immigrants doesn't have a right to complain. We don't put you in a concentration camp and you should be grateful. You can have big house, big cars and big everything. you can do open up business all you want and we don't stop you. If you don't satisfy with our hospitality, go run back to China or Taiwan or Singapore or wherever there's no "discrimination".

It's true that my grandparents immigrated to this country in the early days,but my brothers and I are not immigrants.We were born and are raised in this country,but why is that we are treated differently compared to Malays and Bumiputera.All of us are anak Malaysia!!!
swingdoctor
QUOTE(Malay_guy @ Nov 21 2006, 06:50 PM) [snapback]2502859[/snapback]

This Malay own land and you immigrants doesn't have a right to complain. We don't put you in a concentration camp and you should be grateful. You can have big house, big cars and big everything. you can do open up business all you want and we don't stop you. If you don't satisfy with our hospitality, go run back to China or Taiwan or Singapore or wherever there's no "discrimination".

Typical racist answer, a person who's only interested in himself and not Malaysia. Remember you only enjoy the benefits because of the non-Malays. Do you think without the non-Malay taxes the government can afford to spend on the benifits Bumis enjoy?
You still think that non Malays are the Pendatang Asing, remember in certain parts of Malaysia, the Malays are the Pendatang Asing, yet in these parts they still enjoy the benefits of being the original people of the land. Indeed the Malaysian government rapes the land displacing the true original land holders, and placing them in "concentration camps". Maybe in the states of Sabah and Sarawak, Malays should be treated as the Pendatang Asing. Obviously they are still allowed to "own big house, big cars and everything" if they can afford it but not be subject to the benefits of the NEP, after all if they are not happy with the hospitality of the true locals, they can go back to where ever they have come from where there is no "discrimination" against them.
swingdoctor
QUOTE(1+1 @ Nov 20 2006, 07:42 PM) [snapback]2499942[/snapback]

So why all those students from India, China, Pakistan, Phillipines, Nigeria etc end up not going home?

What percentage of students from India, China, Pakistan, Phillipines, Nigeria etc, choose to apply for PR in Malaysia?
maldini
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Nov 22 2006, 12:11 PM) [snapback]2503892[/snapback]

What percentage of students from India, China, Pakistan, Phillipines, Nigeria etc, choose to apply for PR in Malaysia?


another 99%? laugh.gif
Betong
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Nov 21 2006, 10:36 PM) [snapback]2503789[/snapback]

Typical racist answer, a person who's only interested in himself and not Malaysia. Remember you only enjoy the benefits because of the non-Malays. Do you think without the non-Malay taxes the government can afford to spend on the benifits Bumis enjoy?
You still think that non Malays are the Pendatang Asing, remember in certain parts of Malaysia, the Malays are the Pendatang Asing, yet in these parts they still enjoy the benefits of being the original people of the land. Indeed the Malaysian government rapes the land displacing the true original land holders, and placing them in "concentration camps". Maybe in the states of Sabah and Sarawak, Malays should be treated as the Pendatang Asing. Obviously they are still allowed to "own big house, big cars and everything" if they can afford it but not be subject to the benefits of the NEP, after all if they are not happy with the hospitality of the true locals, they can go back to where ever they have come from where there is no "discrimination" against them.

So what about that answer???
kurekuresakti
another race related fights eh
its either this or religion
i have some malaysian chinese and indian friends
getting along well with malaysian malays
why cant u guys get along?
swingdoctor
QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 22 2006, 03:50 AM) [snapback]2504435[/snapback]

So what about that answer???

What do you mean?
Bringer_Of_Death
QUOTE(kurekuresakti @ Nov 22 2006, 09:38 PM) [snapback]2504824[/snapback]

another race related fights eh
its either this or religion
i have some malaysian chinese and indian friends
getting along well with malaysian malays
why cant u guys get along?


Because some people who are extra thick in the head refuses to get along.
This is why we have human STUPIDIDY.

shrug.gif
Betong
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Nov 22 2006, 04:02 PM) [snapback]2505668[/snapback]

What do you mean?

Typical answer for non-malays...

QUOTE(kurekuresakti @ Nov 22 2006 @ 09:38 PM))


another race related fights eh
its either this or religion
i have some malaysian chinese and indian friends
getting along well with malaysian malays
why cant u guys get along?



You only see outside. In inside you didn't know..... Only in the net you will find this kind of argument....
forrestcat
Wow...this post has been repeated several times...but I think it attracted more controversies due to its titile embarassedlaugh.gif
swingdoctor
QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 22 2006, 06:08 PM) [snapback]2506012[/snapback]

Typical answer for non-malays...


No I really don't know what you mean. I'm sorry if that sentence offended you, I'm not suggesting that Malays should say thank you or anything like that but the truth is that the NEP costs the govetnment money and without the contributions of the non Malays, in terms of taxes, I don't think the govnt could afford it. Although the NEP benefits Bumis only, taxes are laid on everyone. Having said that if it is for the good of Malaysia I don't think non-Bumis would care too much. But, to be called second class citizens in a country you and your parents were born in while shouldering a larger social burden and then to be told that they should be grateful with whatever scraps they are given to them is highly insulting.

I think the biggest insult you can give to a citizen of a country is that, they are woth less then another citizen.
Betong
^^^Income Taxes just present small part of Malaysia income. If I was not mistaken only 13% or maybe even less... And larger portion of govt income pouring back to people especially the one who live in the big city... They the one who get more benefit from govt income....

I always believe that govt should treated our citizen more equally in term of wealth distribution...
swingdoctor
QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 22 2006, 07:17 PM) [snapback]2506189[/snapback]

^^^Income Taxes just present small part of Malaysia income. If I was not mistaken only 13% or maybe even less... And larger portion of govt income pouring back to people especially the one who live in the big city... They the one who get more benefit from govt income....

I always believe that govt should treated our citizen more equally in term of wealth distribution...

Not just income taxes but any other tax that is paid by non Bumis.
I don't have a problem with the govnt helping the poor, and yes I agree most of the poor will probably live outside the cities but, I do have a problem with the govnt handing out aid based on race, there are rich Bumis who live in the city who benefits from the NEP, while poor non-Bumis who live outside the city get little to no aid.
The saddest thing though is that there are still some Malays (though hopefully just a minority), who still feel that non Malays are still Pendatang Asing. And these are young Malays, you would understand with the racial problems in the past if older people felt this way but, the new generation? If young Malays still feel that non Malays don't deserve equal rights, then will the NEP really change in the future? Will non Malys ever be treated as equals?
Betong
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Nov 22 2006, 07:52 PM) [snapback]2506243[/snapback]

Not just income taxes but any other tax that is paid by non Bumis.
I don't have a problem with the govnt helping the poor, and yes I agree most of the poor will probably live outside the cities but, I do have a problem with the govnt handing out aid based on race, there are rich Bumis who live in the city who benefits from the NEP, while poor non-Bumis who live outside the city get little to no aid.
The saddest thing though is that there are still some Malays (though hopefully just a minority), who still feel that non Malays are still Pendatang Asing. And these are young Malays, you would understand with the racial problems in the past if older people felt this way but, the new generation? If young Malays still feel that non Malays don't deserve equal rights, then will the NEP really change in the future? Will non Malys ever be treated as equals?

Sadly politic in Malaysia still race based politic... If you doesn't support your race, you become traitor. So Malaysian should deal with it first before we can become a new Malaysia.... NEP will change to new name I guess but same policies embarassedlaugh.gif

For me everyone deserve it rights as Malaysia citizen including non-malays....
swingdoctor
QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 22 2006, 09:42 PM) [snapback]2506476[/snapback]

Sadly politic in Malaysia still race based politic... If you doesn't support your race, you become traitor. So Malaysian should deal with it first before we can become a new Malaysia.... NEP will change to new name I guess but same policies embarassedlaugh.gif

For me everyone deserve it rights as Malaysia citizen including non-malays....

The problem is that the current government keeps it race based. Everytime it looks like things are not going their way, they keep saying that if you don't vote for them there will be racial violence, if you speak out against them they accuse you of inciting racial hatred. Their policies are racially divisive.
Betong
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Nov 22 2006, 09:46 PM) [snapback]2506487[/snapback]

The problem is that the current government keeps it race based. Everytime it looks like things are not going their way, they keep saying that if you don't vote for them there will be racial violence, if you speak out against them they accuse you of inciting racial hatred. Their policies are racially divisive.

Should I say that this policies adore by all Malaysian???? Because they vote for them....
swingdoctor
QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 22 2006, 09:47 PM) [snapback]2506489[/snapback]

Should I say that this policies adore by all Malaysian???? Because they vote for them....

Yes, this is true but, the current govnt keeps changing the rules to make it difficult for opposition parties to make an impact.
PAS will not represent all Malaysians and with ?Gerakan most in Malaysia still vote along racial lines.

Even so, it is the responsibility of the govnt to look after all its citizens equally regardless of race, religion or gender.
pancaindera
theres a proposal that PPP and Gerakan be merged. i think this is a very good idea. both parties are more multiracial. then when (or if) they get stronger they can leave BN and and join Keadilan, which is also multiracial. then m'sians can live happily ever after icon_smile.gif
or maybe just in my dreams embarassedlaugh.gif
Betong
Yeah, before they even merged, PPP President just bashed Gerakan President in public....
rx7boy
Everyday I heard most of the crimes took place in KL inc. Selangor , Johor and Penang. I'd better stay away from those cities.

1+1
QUOTE(maldini @ Nov 20 2006, 09:26 PM) [snapback]2500427[/snapback]

lol... don't say change law regarding this issue. to express ur view alone u might be charged already and accused of trying to destablize this country. lets not kid ourself k?

MCA and Gerakan? again, they are just patung in BN... being dragged along by UMNO. do they really have any say? i doubt so laugh.gif



Why would I want to change the law that benefit me? Anyway, thanks to those patungs for keeping the malay in power. Seriously, are you implying that people in MCA and Gerakan, and millions of non malays who voted for them stupid?

QUOTE(pancaindera @ Nov 23 2006, 06:58 AM) [snapback]2507870[/snapback]

theres a proposal that PPP and Gerakan be merged. i think this is a very good idea. both parties are more multiracial. then when (or if) they get stronger they can leave BN and and join Keadilan, which is also multiracial. then m'sians can live happily ever after icon_smile.gif
or maybe just in my dreams embarassedlaugh.gif



Good idea. I also think its time for UMNO, MCA and MIC to merge since they've been together in the same coalition for decades already.
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