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bluelakedragon
Good idea in reporting social issue in Vietnam but what the deal with video taping teenagers having sex in "motel"??? so wrong........... bawling.gif

Sounds like the education official is proud with the fact that these teenagers are so advanced in catching up with the rest of the world. HIV, abortions, teenage pregnancy........ thank you MR. Education Official. bawling.gif
Yeah...its so easy to blame on the kids and the world but not the eduation system.

They should follow the government official and video tape his daily activities. that's be more interesting and helpful for Vietnam.




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Happy Asian
VietNamese should act like VietNamese, stop copycatting Westerners and lose values.
spicy
what bad kids
havythoai
It's so sad ... Vietnamese teenagers nowadays are like that, they are so easy to have sex with their boyfriends. And a bad thing is that Vietnam is one of the nations in the world which have the most abortion. The essential reason is that they lack the knowledge of safety sex (The High school in vietnam still don't have the subject of reproductive health yet).

Also, currently the number of pre-marriage pregnants is alarmingly increasing in Vietnam, one of the reasons is that girls today are so compliant and soft-hearted that whenever their boyfriends ask for sex, they can offer it.

Once I've heard of the ones who were in love said that if you haven't had sex, how can you know if you are sexually compatible with your betrothed? it is similiar to a thing like you wanna test a car before you buy it. If the car is suitable to you, then you'll take it. ... This sounds reasionable, but if we all wanna test our girlfriend before getting married, then there'll be no girls in the world thumbsdown.gif
Hola
QUOTE(havythoai @ Oct 23 2006, 03:45 PM) [snapback]2418569[/snapback]

It's so sad ... Vietnamese teenagers nowadays are like that, they are so easy to have sex with their boyfriends. And a bad thing is that Vietnam is one of the nations in the world which have the most abortion. The essential reason is that they lack the knowledge of safety sex (The High school in vietnam still don't have the subject of reproductive health yet).

Also, currently the number of pre-marriage pregnants is alarmingly increasing in Vietnam, one of the reasons is that girls today are so compliant and soft-hearted that whenever their boyfriends ask for sex, they can offer it.

Once I've heard of the ones who were in love said that if you haven't had sex, how can you know if you are sexually compatible with your betrothed? it is similiar to a thing like you wanna test a car before you buy it. If the car is suitable to you, then you'll take it. ... This sounds reasionable, but if we all wanna test our girlfriend before getting married, then there's no girls in the world thumbsdown.gif



yea its so sad,i always look upon viets as traditional,conservative
i3ig_iviac
why the hell does the news secretly video tape the teenage couples having sex ? was the camera man a sick pheadophile? or was the news team trying to earn more dosh with underage fetish porn?
blacklight
It's the nature of teen-agers to be crazed about sex. Sex education is a public health issue, and it must happen. Young women must be taught to say "No", but we can only do so much fighting teen-age hormones.
mai-mai
it's very sad and and it's true that VN is one of the countries with the highest abortion rate. I read something about 89% or higher!!!!
cuteo
QUOTE(havythoai @ Oct 23 2006, 02:45 AM) [snapback]2418569[/snapback]

It's so sad ... Vietnamese teenagers nowadays are like that, they are so easy to have sex with their boyfriends. And a bad thing is that Vietnam is one of the nations in the world which have the most abortion. The essential reason is that they lack the knowledge of safety sex (The High school in vietnam still don't have the subject of reproductive health yet).

Also, currently the number of pre-marriage pregnants is alarmingly increasing in Vietnam, one of the reasons is that girls today are so compliant and soft-hearted that whenever their boyfriends ask for sex, they can offer it.

Once I've heard of the ones who were in love said that if you haven't had sex, how can you know if you are sexually compatible with your betrothed? it is similiar to a thing like you wanna test a car before you buy it. If the car is suitable to you, then you'll take it. ... This sounds reasionable, but if we all wanna test our girlfriend before getting married, then there'll be no girls in the world thumbsdown.gif


Teenagers' view on sex and love the same regardless of where they are. That's the growth and the development aspects of sexuality. These kids need to be educated about these things. I do understand
that Asian society in general and Vietnamese society in particular are rather very taciturn when it comes
to the topic of sex or discussion sex publicly. It seems like it's almost a taboo or something. Vietnam is
no longer barred from the rest of the world so she needs to understand there will be a great deal of pop
culture will have an affect on the younger generation. Nowaday, the internet, tv, radio, magazine, movies,
tourism, etc...carry with loaded implications of sexual matters. In my personal opinion, there are at least three things that Vietnam can do to lessen this effect.
1) The board of education in Vietnam ought to take proactive measure in introducing courses as part of the
curriculum for these kids. I think they have the power and the mean to do this.
2) Parents and kids need to be more open to sex discussion at home. This is tough I know. But no option.
3) The Vietnamese government ought to be more involved in the censorship of the media regarding the
explicit nature of sexual exposure to the public. Right now they seem to be more focusing on political
censorship than any other aspects. Very sad. thumbsdown.gif

Until Vietnam takes proactive measures to deal this issue, Vietnam will be a decadent society for years to
come.
vietguy1
Come on guys, we're closing in 2007 now, be open minded. Western cultures spreaded everywhere nowadays, you can't expect teens in Vietnam to behave innocent like back in the old days, when y'all were so influenced by western lifestyle right? For da guys, don't tell me that you haven't thought about banging your gf in you have one.

And also, sex education won't do anything with da vietnamese teens sexuality. Even if they were educated about sex, they still gonna have sex anyway like western kids. So what's the important point here? they might use condoms instead of unprotected sex.
chanoi
Personally i dont think teenagers having sex is really an issue. What should the government concern is the fact that those teenagers still lack the knowledge of how to protect themselves. There should be sex education for teenagers.
P228
ah..

Sha-dap!



Sex is good! biggthumpup.gif
havythoai
QUOTE(vietguy1 @ Oct 23 2006, 09:52 AM) [snapback]2419041[/snapback]

Come on guys, we're closing in 2007 now, be open minded. Western cultures spreaded everywhere nowadays, you can't expect teens in Vietnam to behave innocent like back in the old days, when y'all were so influenced by western lifestyle right? For da guys, don't tell me that you haven't thought about banging your gf in you have one.

And also, sex education won't do anything with da vietnamese teens sexuality. Even if they were educated about sex, they still gonna have sex anyway like western kids. So what's the important point here? they might use condoms instead of unprotected sex.

each country has its own culture, and Vietnamese culture in particular, it doesn't allow teenagers to have sex before marriage, especially before 18 years old. If a girl have had sex with ex-boyfriend before getting married to a man, then his parents would be hard to accept her, even he would also be alike ... The culture of the East very appreciates women's virginity .

P.S: It's confusing that when we know our girlfriend having sex before getting along with us
cuteo
QUOTE(vietguy1 @ Oct 23 2006, 09:52 AM) [snapback]2419041[/snapback]

Come on guys, we're closing in 2007 now, be open minded. Western cultures spreaded everywhere nowadays, you can't expect teens in Vietnam to behave innocent like back in the old days, when y'all were so influenced by western lifestyle right? For da guys, don't tell me that you haven't thought about banging your gf in you have one.

And also, sex education won't do anything with da vietnamese teens sexuality. Even if they were educated about sex, they still gonna have sex anyway like western kids. So what's the important point here? they might use condoms instead of unprotected sex.


Dude, there are pros and cons in every cultures. Although the Western culture is prevalent nowaday, it does not
mean that we need to filter in the negatives aspects of it. Beside, Eastern culture has its values and views on certain things worthy that need to be preserved beerchug.gif

QUOTE('chanoi')
Personally i dont think teenagers having sex is really an issue. What should the government concern is the fact that those teenagers still lack the knowledge of how to protect themselves. There should be sex education for teenagers.

Thank you chanoi. biggthumpup.gif That is exactly what I meant about sex education. Sex education is not only about urging those teenagers to go the abstinence route, it's about teaching them how to make a better choice. They should know and realize the consequences and the responsibilties for their action beerchug.gif
vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe
We're only human, we get horny and need to fu-ck !!
supernovasp
that's hot
SoCal
Vietnam needs to implement the law that does not permit hotel/motel (nha` nghi~) to rent to minors.

This is one way that can prevent unwanted sex/pregnancy among teenagers.
Hola
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 24 2006, 03:12 AM) [snapback]2419557[/snapback]

Vietnam needs to implement the law that does not permit hotel/motel (nha` nghi~) to rent to minors.

This is one way that can prevent unwanted sex/pregnancy among teenagers.



dude~
they can always use their homes sure.gif
bluelakedragon
QUOTE(havythoai @ Oct 23 2006, 02:45 AM) [snapback]2418569[/snapback]

It's so sad ... Vietnamese teenagers nowadays are like that, they are so easy to have sex with their boyfriends. And a bad thing is that Vietnam is one of the nations in the world which have the most abortion. The essential reason is that they lack the knowledge of safety sex (The High school in vietnam still don't have the subject of reproductive health yet).

Also, currently the number of pre-marriage pregnants is alarmingly increasing in Vietnam, one of the reasons is that girls today are so compliant and soft-hearted that whenever their boyfriends ask for sex, they can offer it.

Once I've heard of the ones who were in love said that if you haven't had sex, how can you know if you are sexually compatible with your betrothed? it is similiar to a thing like you wanna test a car before you buy it. If the car is suitable to you, then you'll take it. ... This sounds reasionable, but if we all wanna test our girlfriend before getting married, then there'll be no girls in the world thumbsdown.gif



Even in the US, some Vietnamese parents feel hesitated to have their kids introduced to human reproduction in school. They think that their kids will have sex early if they know story of "the bird and the bee". Some parents are clueless of what they kids are exposed to out there. The most dangerous thing is peer pressure and this is where they can get wrong info about sex. Internet, movies, music videos are also can be the source of misinformation. With the high rate of abortions, HIV and teenage pregnancy in Vietnam, public education and human reproduction course in school are needed.

I remember reading somewhere where a Westerner who is into Eastern Meditation says that Asians are learning the bad habits of Westerners whereas Westerners are now into Buddhism, yoga, Tai Chi, etc which are good spiritual practices for the soul and body. Maybe the Vietnam education official can learn something good from the West by offering safe sex and human reproduction courses in school. I had that class in 6th grade here in the US.
bluelakedragon
QUOTE(Hola @ Oct 23 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]2419577[/snapback]

dude~
they can always use their homes sure.gif


there is no privacy in Vietnam at home! biggrin.gif
$hit, even "motel" you see in the video clip.

Hola
QUOTE(bluelakedragon @ Oct 24 2006, 03:21 AM) [snapback]2419578[/snapback]

Even in the US, some Vietnamese parents feel hesitated to have their kids introduced to human reproduction in school. They think that their kids will have sex early if they know story of "the bird and the bee". Some parents are clueless of what they kids are exposed to out there. The most dangerous thing is peer pressure and this is where they can get wrong info about sex. Internet, movies, music videos are also can be the source of misinformation. With the high rate of abortions, HIV and teenage pregnancy in Vietnam, public education and human reproduction course in school are needed.

I remember reading somewhere where a Westerner who is into Eastern Meditation says that Asians are learning the bad habits of Westerners whereas Westerners are now into Buddhism, yoga, Tai Chi, etc which are good spiritual practices for the soul and body. Maybe the Vietnam education official can learn something good from the West by offering safe sex and human reproduction courses in school. I had that class in 6th grade here in the US.




sex education is hella fkin shyt boring
I really wonder why it has to be taught,juz surf the net and u get the info instead of having to sit on ya bum in the classroom for periods.
poof thumbsdown.gif

i had sex eucation when i was 13yo

QUOTE(bluelakedragon @ Oct 24 2006, 03:33 AM) [snapback]2419598[/snapback]

there is no privacy in Vietnam at home! biggrin.gif
$hit, even "motel" you see in the video clip.



Actually, the entire vid got me thinking how the fkin fellow knew the teenagers were gonna hit the motel
sure.gif
flipcombatmedic
QUOTE(Happy Asian @ Oct 23 2006, 01:57 AM) [snapback]2418474[/snapback]

VietNamese should act like VietNamese, stop copycatting Westerners and lose values.

huh? since when was it racially embedded that Vietnamese teenagers have no such urge for human behavior so common?

if you ask me these things happen all the time throughout history, it's just now being videotaped, studied and put in statistics.
bluelakedragon
QUOTE(Hola @ Oct 23 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]2419599[/snapback]

sex education is hella fkin shyt boring
I really wonder why it has to be taught,juz surf the net and u get the info instead of having to sit on ya bum in the classroom for periods.
poof thumbsdown.gif

i had sex eucation when i was 13yo
Actually, the entire vid got me thinking how the fkin fellow knew the teenagers were gonna hit the motel
sure.gif



Its boring but School is a safer environment to learn than the internet. Most things you see on the net are people "getting it on". biggrin.gif

Its obvious if you see a couple in school uniform going in a "motel" in the middle of the day.
but taping them is so wrong. I hope none of the news people don't leak the unedited video tape out.
It happened before but not from the news station.


jose cuervo
That's shocking, I didn't know that Vietnam has an high abortion rate. Just make the girl go on a pill or use a rubber, surely they have contraceptives in Vietnam. Or at least the guy should learn how to pull out before he ejaculates, although the girl can still get pregnant like 30 percent of the time.
bluelakedragon
QUOTE(jose cuervo @ Oct 23 2006, 04:26 PM) [snapback]2419859[/snapback]

That's shocking, I didn't know that Vietnam has an high abortion rate. Just make the girl go on a pill or use a rubber, surely they have contraceptives in Vietnam. Or at least the guy should learn how to pull out before he ejaculates, although the girl can still get pregnant like 30 percent of the time.



parents, school, & the media need to get involved in curbing this down:

QUOTE
AFP/Yahoo! News on Thursday examined Vietnam's high abortion rate and the lack of sex education among young people in the country. According to the Vietnam Family Planning Association, the country has one of the world's highest abortion rates. About 1.4 million abortions are performed annually in the country, which has a population of 82 million. Gender inequality -- which increases the rate of sex-selective abortion -- and a lack of sex education and contraceptive use are the main causes of the high abortion rate, experts say. In addition, the average age sexual debut in the country has decreased from age 19 seven years ago to age 14.5 today, according to a survey by the National Committee for Population, Family and Children. Although the country has promoted contraceptives through various awareness campaigns, they are not widely used or well-understood by most Vietnamese people. As a result of these trends, some experts are calling for the government and organizations to cooperate in sex and gender education for young people in schools (AFP/Yahoo! News, 7/7).
SoCal
QUOTE(Hola @ Oct 23 2006, 12:21 PM) [snapback]2419577[/snapback]

dude~
they can always use their homes sure.gif


It is not that easy for teenagers to make love at homes in Vietnam because a family has several members living in the same place. The family members can keep eyes and ears on the teenagers and keep them behaved.
vietguy1
you guys are idiot. All they need is to use condoms or birth control pills to protect them from unwanted sex, so for godsake in the world, would any type of goverment stupid enough to make a law that prohibite teens from renting hotel rooms. Imagine if you're that hotel's owner, how you gonna react with such a lawwwwwww? Furthermore, You guys are oldfashioned that doesn't means other people should follow. You guys live in the west and become Americanized, so y'all should expect teens in Vietnam got influence also.
SoCal
QUOTE(vietguy1 @ Oct 23 2006, 08:49 PM) [snapback]2420795[/snapback]

you guys are idiot. All they need is to use condoms or birth control pills to protect them from unwanted sex, so for godsake in the world, would any type of goverment stupid enough to make a law that prohibite teens from renting hotel rooms. Imagine if you're that hotel's owner, how you gonna react with such a lawwwwwww? Furthermore, You guys are oldfashioned that doesn't means other people should follow. You guys live in the west and become Americanized, so y'all should expect teens in Vietnam got influence also.


vietguy:

It is not stupid to prohibit teenagers from renting motel/hotel rooms. In addition, the Hotel/Motel Owners must have the conscience to refuse to rent the rooms to teenagers. Sometimes, profits cannot take precedence over the expense of teenagers.
landsknechts
This is not the Middle Ages, we are living in the 21st century here.
big_d!ck
Me like...
havythoai
QUOTE(landsknechts @ Oct 23 2006, 10:54 PM) [snapback]2420810[/snapback]

This is not the Middle Ages, we are living in the 21st century here.

yes, we are living in the 21st century, but this doesn't mean that we have sex so easily, even we are well educated in sex
chanoi
Sex is a consentual choice between two persons. It is their bodies. Let them be. But if sex leads to pregancy and abortion, it is really pathetic.
vietguy1
It is their bodies, if they wanted to have sex, then who can stop them? You guys can stay abstinence if y'all wanted. They can have sex and get pregnant if they wanted to, they've never asked for y'all money so why do you guys cared so much? And Vietnam isn't a muslim country, people don't views our culture base sexuality, if you a cheap @$$, or stupid, then they'll se u like that, they don't care if you got laid when you're 14.
chanoi
QUOTE(vietguy1 @ Oct 24 2006, 09:29 AM) [snapback]2421496[/snapback]

It is their bodies, if they wanted to have sex, then who can stop them? You guys can stay abstinence if y'all wanted. They can have sex and get pregnant if they wanted to, they've never asked for y'all money so why do you guys cared so much? And Vietnam isn't a muslim country, people don't views our culture base sexuality, if you a cheap @$$, or stupid, then they'll se u like that, they don't care if you got laid when you're 14.


They can have sex, but not pregancy due to carelessness. Having child at early age surely would hinder any young parents' career path. VietNam has roughly 80 million people, and each year there are estimated 1 million new babies. It is already a challenge to deal with the growing population so VietNam definitely doesn't want to have unwanted pregancy from young couple who still live on the support of their parents. Young couple either go through abortion or give up their child to some organization, which is run by the government which in turn using the tax money to operate.
SoCal
QUOTE(vietguy1 @ Oct 24 2006, 06:29 AM) [snapback]2421496[/snapback]

It is their bodies, if they wanted to have sex, then who can stop them? You guys can stay abstinence if y'all wanted. They can have sex and get pregnant if they wanted to, they've never asked for y'all money so why do you guys cared so much? And Vietnam isn't a muslim country, people don't views our culture base sexuality, if you a cheap @$$, or stupid, then they'll se u like that, they don't care if you got laid when you're 14.


It takes a caring community to guide teenagers to become responsible adults. At the age of teenagers, they still lack the full maturity of the adults, therefore we need set up rules and laws to protect them.
cuteo
QUOTE(vietguy1 @ Oct 24 2006, 08:29 AM) [snapback]2421496[/snapback]

It is their bodies, if they wanted to have sex, then who can stop them? You guys can stay abstinence if y'all wanted. They can have sex and get pregnant if they wanted to, they've never asked for y'all money so why do you guys cared so much? And Vietnam isn't a muslim country, people don't views our culture base sexuality, if you a cheap @$$, or stupid, then they'll se u like that, they don't care if you got laid when you're 14.


What are you talking about ?
Your tax dollars will go to the social wellfare program to aid these people who does not have the mean for the living. Not to mention the abortion cost and other social programs needed to deal with this issue. beerchug.gif
canhong
QUOTE(vietguy1 @ Oct 24 2006, 09:29 AM) [snapback]2421496[/snapback]

It is their bodies, if they wanted to have sex, then who can stop them? You guys can stay abstinence if y'all wanted. They can have sex and get pregnant if they wanted to, they've never asked for y'all money so why do you guys cared so much? And Vietnam isn't a muslim country, people don't views our culture base sexuality, if you a cheap @$$, or stupid, then they'll se u like that, they don't care if you got laid when you're 14.

Vietguy1, just hypothetically, what if it's one of your own 14-15 y/o kids behaving this way, and get pregnant? Think about it, and honestly tell us it's not a problem.

Kids being curious about sex is natural (though one would hope they don't start obssessing about it at t 12-13), but to get laid at such a young age with disregards to the consequences is not acceptable, I think!

c...
vietguy1
HAhahahaa, We're talking about VN here guys, there aren't any welfare programs there. So what that got to do with all the tax money. And you guys are dictated, y'all have no power or what's overever to control those teens, you kids might not even listen to you, you think those teens will? Remember, you guys are Vietnamese, not da Vietnamese goverment, they might their businese, and y'all might yours. You can't not jail some teens because they had sex and got pregnant.
fatcatvn
First,there is no problem concerning the cultural diffirences between West/East.Sex take part of human instinct.The culture was serving and is serving today to slow the processus.Or in a globalisation age,it's hard to stay in own corner and keep our rites as it was a 1000 years ago.Once understood these points,the concern is not to prohibe or to educate these kids to not have sex at their age but is likely to educate them to do so safely.
So the second point come naturally to say how to educate these kids(i doubt a lot when someone said these are kids.They are no kids anymore) to have sex safely?The best way to do this is through debates:debate between parents and kids,teachers and kids,and between the kids them self.We need to break the tabou and also the myth about sex.Through debates,these kids has at least some ideas about what they are going to do and how to do it safety.
s2hurt
sex ed should be teach in vn.......both girls and guys should learn 2 use protection......my 17old cuzn only did it once to a 16yr girl and now she's pregnant........they didn't married bcoz of the bad luck thing about doing it b4 marriage......now his being a d!ckhead and treating her like crap bcoz he doesn't love her and he dates other girls and she can't go back home bcoz viet ppl like to gossip.

my cousin only had 2 choices to make......1 was to take responsilbility and accept her as his wife or 2) her mother will report him to the cops and he be jailed.

it doesn't what age they do it as long as they do it safely with protection. The earlier they learn about the bees and the birds the better it would be 4 them to not make stupid decisions. The is othere stories of young sex in my village alone back in vn.

SoCal
QUOTE(vietguy1 @ Oct 24 2006, 01:23 PM) [snapback]2422020[/snapback]

HAhahahaa, We're talking about VN here guys, there aren't any welfare programs there. So what that got to do with all the tax money. And you guys are dictated, y'all have no power or what's overever to control those teens, you kids might not even listen to you, you think those teens will? Remember, you guys are Vietnamese, not da Vietnamese goverment, they might their businese, and y'all might yours. You can't not jail some teens because they had sex and got pregnant.


I beg you pardon. I think you misunderstand my view point. I recommend that Vietnam passes law prohibiting hotels or motels from renting to minors.
TINMAN
Is there such thing as statutary rape laws in VN?
TyCooN
You're a pussy if you're against pre-martial sex. icon_neutral.gif
vietguy1
Wazzup Tinman, if you wanted to know if VN has statutary rape law or not? just try to rape a girl in VN and you'll find out very soon!
TINMAN
QUOTE(vietguy1 @ Oct 28 2006, 01:34 PM) [snapback]2432743[/snapback]

Wazzup Tinman, if you wanted to know if VN has statutary rape law or not? just try to rape a girl in VN and you'll find out very soon!

Do you even understand the definition of statutary rape? In the US, if you're 18 yo, and had consensual sex with someone under 18, that is considered statutory rape and you can go to prison, period.
i3ig_iviac
we should show the viet kids porno of Chuckie Akenz, if that won't put them off sex for a few years i dont know what will - Talktohand.gif
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