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"BIOGRAPHIES
Female Heroes of Asia: Vietnam
The Trung Sisters
In Vietnam women have always been in the forefront in resisting foreign domination. Two of the most popular heroines are the Trung sisters who led the first national uprising against the Chinese, who had conquered them, in the year 40 A.D. The Vietnamese had been suffering under the harsh rule of a Chinese governor called To Dinh. Some feel that if the sisters had not resisted the Chinese when they did, there would be no Vietnamese nation today.
The sisters were daughters of a powerful lord. Trung Trac was the elder; Trung Nhi, her constant companion, the younger. They lived in a time when Vietnamese women enjoyed freedoms forbidden them in later centuries. For example, women could inherit property through their mother's line and become political leaders, judges, traders, and warriors.
Trung Trac was married to Thi Sach, another powerful lord. Chinese records note that Trac had a "brave and fearless disposition." It was she who mobilized the Vietnamese lords to rebel against the Chinese. Legend says that to gain the confidence of the people, the Trung sisters committed acts of bravery, such as killing a fearful people-eating tiger - and used the tiger's skin as paper to write a proclamation urging the people to follow them against the Chinese.
The Trungs gathered an army of 80,000 people to help drive the Chinese from their lands. From among those who came forward to fight the Chinese, the Trung sisters chose thirty-six women, including their mother. They trained them to be generals. Many names of leaders of the uprising recorded in temples dedicated to Trung Trac are women. These women led a people's army of 80,000 which drove the Chinese out of Viet Nam in 40 A.D. The Trung sisters, of whom Nhi proved to be the better warrior, liberated six-five fortresses.
After their victory, the people proclaimed Trung Trac to be their ruler. They renamed her "Trung Vuong" or "She-king Trung." She established her royal court in Me-linh, an ancient political center in the Hong River plain. As queen she abolished the hated tribute taxes which had been imposed by the Chinese. She also attempted to restore a simpler form of government more in line with traditional Vietnamese values.
For the next three years the Trung sisters engaged in constant battles with the Chinese government in Vietnam. Out armed, their troops were badly defeated in 43 A.D. Rather than accept defeat, popular lore says that both Trung sisters chose the traditional Vietnamese way of maintaining honor - they committed suicide. Some stories say they drowned themselves in a river; others claim they disappeared into the clouds.
Over time the Trungs became the stuff of legends and poems and a source of pride for women who lived more restricted lives. Today, stories, poems,plays, postage stamps, posters and monuments still glorify the heroism of the Trung sisters.
"All the male heroes bowed their heads in submission;
Only the two sisters proudly stood up to avenge the country."
15th century Poem
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Sources:
The Birth of Vietnam, Keith Weller Taylor, University of California Press, 1983.
The Encyclopedia of Amazons: Women Warriors from Aniquity to the Modern Era, Jessica Salmonson, Paragon House, 1991.
Women of Vietnam, Arlene Eisen Bergman, Peoples Press, S.F., CA.
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"BIOGRAPHIES
Female Heroes of Asia: Vietnam
The Trung Sisters
In Vietnam women have always been in the forefront in resisting foreign domination. Two of the most popular heroines are the Trung sisters who led the first national uprising against the Chinese, who had conquered them, in the year 40 A.D. The Vietnamese had been suffering under the harsh rule of a Chinese governor called To Dinh. Some feel that if the sisters had not resisted the Chinese when they did, there would be no Vietnamese nation today.
The sisters were daughters of a powerful lord. Trung Trac was the elder; Trung Nhi, her constant companion, the younger. They lived in a time when Vietnamese women enjoyed freedoms forbidden them in later centuries. For example, women could inherit property through their mother's line and become political leaders, judges, traders, and warriors.
Trung Trac was married to Thi Sach, another powerful lord. Chinese records note that Trac had a "brave and fearless disposition." It was she who mobilized the Vietnamese lords to rebel against the Chinese. Legend says that to gain the confidence of the people, the Trung sisters committed acts of bravery, such as killing a fearful people-eating tiger - and used the tiger's skin as paper to write a proclamation urging the people to follow them against the Chinese.
The Trungs gathered an army of 80,000 people to help drive the Chinese from their lands. From among those who came forward to fight the Chinese, the Trung sisters chose thirty-six women, including their mother. They trained them to be generals. Many names of leaders of the uprising recorded in temples dedicated to Trung Trac are women. These women led a people's army of 80,000 which drove the Chinese out of Viet Nam in 40 A.D. The Trung sisters, of whom Nhi proved to be the better warrior, liberated six-five fortresses.
After their victory, the people proclaimed Trung Trac to be their ruler. They renamed her "Trung Vuong" or "She-king Trung." She established her royal court in Me-linh, an ancient political center in the Hong River plain. As queen she abolished the hated tribute taxes which had been imposed by the Chinese. She also attempted to restore a simpler form of government more in line with traditional Vietnamese values.
For the next three years the Trung sisters engaged in constant battles with the Chinese government in Vietnam. Out armed, their troops were badly defeated in 43 A.D. Rather than accept defeat, popular lore says that both Trung sisters chose the traditional Vietnamese way of maintaining honor - they committed suicide. Some stories say they drowned themselves in a river; others claim they disappeared into the clouds.
Over time the Trungs became the stuff of legends and poems and a source of pride for women who lived more restricted lives. Today, stories, poems,plays, postage stamps, posters and monuments still glorify the heroism of the Trung sisters.
"All the male heroes bowed their heads in submission;
Only the two sisters proudly stood up to avenge the country."
15th century Poem
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Sources:
The Birth of Vietnam, Keith Weller Taylor, University of California Press, 1983.
The Encyclopedia of Amazons: Women Warriors from Aniquity to the Modern Era, Jessica Salmonson, Paragon House, 1991.
Women of Vietnam, Arlene Eisen Bergman, Peoples Press, S.F., CA.
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QUOTE(romeydahound @ Oct 19 2006, 11:54 PM) [snapback]2410196[/snapback]
Romey
Is that you in the video?
no.
is that Final fantasy music?
The young women are very pretty. I didn't realize they were Philippinas (or Philippina American) until the credits rolled down.
QUOTE(kunomchu @ Oct 20 2006, 03:40 AM) [snapback]2410355[/snapback]
is that Final fantasy music?
It's a derivative of the FF-X intro.
Then it goes into the FF X-2 intro.
Begining of the first millenium, there is a small kingdom just south of "Nan-Yue", or Nam Viet which was a state among others in the Eastern Han Empire.
This kingdom was the ancient vietnamese. After being conquered, there were two sisters nam Trung Trac and Trung Nhi tried to organize people to overthrow the forced chinese rulling government. In the Video, the 2 looking alike girls were Trung Trac and Trung Nhi.
They succeded but after a short period of time, they were attacked again by the Han Empire. Recorded history said the Chinese general made the soldiers naked because Trung Truc and Trung Nhi were women. They could not fight a bigger chinese military and with some psychological attack like that, they retreated and committed suicide by drowning themselves in "Gia Trach" River. At the end of the video, the girls jumped into the pools to reenact the detail of the sisters commited suicide by drowing themselves.
he domination went on until the 10th century when AnNam(Vietnam) successfully became an independent Kingdom.
After that During the Yuan, MInh,Ching Dynasties, there were many times chinese invaded AnNam but got pushed back.
Specialy the 3 times attacks of the Mongols during the Yuan Empire , the Mongols got defeated by a smaller but smarter vietnamese army. The mongols were known for their horse back and achery superiority. But the vietnamese lured them into battles on boats and Junks. Gruerilla Attacks at night and long period of time of starvation in a tropical weather made the chinese mongols had to retreat. On their way going back, the vientamese followed and make sure mongols not returning safely.
This kingdom was the ancient vietnamese. After being conquered, there were two sisters nam Trung Trac and Trung Nhi tried to organize people to overthrow the forced chinese rulling government. In the Video, the 2 looking alike girls were Trung Trac and Trung Nhi.
They succeded but after a short period of time, they were attacked again by the Han Empire. Recorded history said the Chinese general made the soldiers naked because Trung Truc and Trung Nhi were women. They could not fight a bigger chinese military and with some psychological attack like that, they retreated and committed suicide by drowning themselves in "Gia Trach" River. At the end of the video, the girls jumped into the pools to reenact the detail of the sisters commited suicide by drowing themselves.
he domination went on until the 10th century when AnNam(Vietnam) successfully became an independent Kingdom.
After that During the Yuan, MInh,Ching Dynasties, there were many times chinese invaded AnNam but got pushed back.
Specialy the 3 times attacks of the Mongols during the Yuan Empire , the Mongols got defeated by a smaller but smarter vietnamese army. The mongols were known for their horse back and achery superiority. But the vietnamese lured them into battles on boats and Junks. Gruerilla Attacks at night and long period of time of starvation in a tropical weather made the chinese mongols had to retreat. On their way going back, the vientamese followed and make sure mongols not returning safely.
Fun Foo
Thank you for your historical account. I would like to add that Champa assisted Dai Viet in fighting back the Mongolian invasions. I read in historical book that Dai Viet and Champa worked together to fight back the invasions.
Thank you for your historical account. I would like to add that Champa assisted Dai Viet in fighting back the Mongolian invasions. I read in historical book that Dai Viet and Champa worked together to fight back the invasions.
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 20 2006, 01:01 PM) [snapback]2411405[/snapback]
Fun Foo
Thank you for your historical account. I would like to add that Champa assisted Dai Viet in fighting back the Mongolian invasions. I read in historical book that Dai Viet and Champa worked together to fight back the invasions.
SoCal, from what i read. the Champs never helped Dai Viet to defend against the Mongols. they actually attacked Dai Viet by following the Mongols orders. Dai Viet then sent an army down south to attack Champa first, then got back north to fight the Mongols.
QUOTE(DAI_VIET @ Oct 20 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]2411655[/snapback]
SoCal, from what i read. the Champs never helped Dai Viet to defend against the Mongols. they actually attacked Dai Viet by following the Mongols orders. Dai Viet then sent an army down south to attack Champa first, then got back north to fight the Mongols.
Dai Viet
That is interesting. I got this piece of information here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champa
"The Mongols under Kublai Khan in 1281 ordered the Cham King Indravarman V to come to Bejing with tribute but he refused. The Mongols sent a fleet down to attack the Cham kingdom and the Cham hid in the hills. A year later the Mongols sent a large army (an estimated 500,000 strong) south to attack the Cham. This army marched through Vietnam but without Vietnamese permission. The Vietnamese harassed the army in conjunction with the Cham. With little to show for this display of force, the Mongol army withdrew. Perhaps to solidify the positive relations between the two kingdoms in 1306 a Vietnamese princess married a northern Cham king."
QUOTE(DAI_VIET @ Oct 20 2006, 03:35 PM) [snapback]2411655[/snapback]
SoCal, from what i read. the Champs never helped Dai Viet to defend against the Mongols. they actually attacked Dai Viet by following the Mongols orders. Dai Viet then sent an army down south to attack Champa first, then got back north to fight the Mongols.
Nope, it didn't happen that way. Dai Viet and Champa had a strong alliance going, because Kublai Khan was clearly gunning for both. The Mongols launched two amphibious invasions of Champa, and the Chams had the good sense to respond by heading for the hills and fighting a guerrilla war from there.
The Mongol demanded that the king of Dai Viet permit a 500000-man Mongol army to pass through Dai Viet and take care of Champa. The king of Dai Viet and his advisers were not fooled and refused. And thus was the Mongol second invasion of Vietnam launched. We destroyed most of the Mongol invasion force, thereby motivating a third Mongol invasion.
The third Mongol invasion ended in strategic frustration, and the Mongols left - avoiding annihiliation only by moving fast and in scattered small groups. Upon hearing the news, the 30000 Mongol force that had been occupying Champa for a while - that force hurriedly left, because they did not want to get caught in a nutcracker between the Viets and the Chams.
The Cham king was very happy with the results of the alliance, and arranged to marry a Vietnamese princess - hopefully sealing a permanent peace betwwen our two kingdoms. Unfortunately, it was not to be.
36 female generals? That ought to show our arrogant neighbours.
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 21 2006, 04:01 AM) [snapback]2411405[/snapback]
Fun Foo
Thank you for your historical account. I would like to add that Champa assisted Dai Viet in fighting back the Mongolian invasions. I read in historical book that Dai Viet and Champa worked together to fight back the invasions.
I doubt that, VietNam was and still is surrounded by enemies.
Is that kid a boy or girl 
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 20 2006, 09:30 PM) [snapback]2412942[/snapback]
Is that really what Vietnam wore before? If so I want to wear it for Halloween. The costume the old guys had on.
QUOTE(SoCal @ Oct 20 2006, 10:11 PM) [snapback]2413059[/snapback]
Again those costumes are awesome. I really want to wear it for Halloween. If people ask me I say its Vietnamese.
QUOTE(Nha Le @ Oct 20 2006, 08:23 PM) [snapback]2413088[/snapback]
Again those costumes are awesome. I really want to wear it for Halloween. If people ask me I say its Vietnamese.
Mr. Nha Le
I admire your courage. Go do it.
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