It doesn't matter how rude you say I still can forgive for that. Is your dad a former Khmer Rouge commander or just a civilian surived the KR?IF he is a Frm KR, why don't he question why they kill Khmer? and why they always use the words Angkar Lue as an order and what purpose does the words really mean to them. Maybe your father were fooled by that words because the words is an exccuse and allow Khmer kill each other without questions. The trick to this killing is Angkar Luer words. Don't you see man how strange is the Cambodian genocide is First there is no press to take account, then there is the mass looting, then there was Toul Sleng prison and they took photos and what about killing of interlectuals people and how about how intelligent is the invasion and they founda big pot of golds.

Don't let other say Khmer is stupid question yourself is this and that happen. this is like putting a puzzle together and when you complete it everything will make sense. I cannot go and tell you to change what you believe but take a moment to what other says.

Go and ask your father does he know anyone around his village that became Khmer Rouge and if so question him this where did they get such weapons so quick. And also si there any vietnamese living around his village and where did they go or have he seen them being killed. last what accent does this Khmer Rouge speak. Well for now you do some homework. Ok for a diploma should do better

"I hope all of our Khmer compatriots who were brutally killed are to protect our country from being wiped out on the World Map will rest at peace because I try to open Killers' faces."

Where were you in 1975?

my dad wasnt KR, yes he did wish senseless murder, some where isolated cases while others where full on. i knoe theres alot of conspiricy theories about wht happened in cambodia. i will not question he any more, he is old the memory he have back there was so painful. yes brother u cant wht i think, before i was unresonable as well, i used to hate blindy about viet, but since im grow up now, i understand hate blind us from wht really happen. yes he knows the viets tht live in those areas, they where just ordinary people, nuthin more nuthin less. i really using offensive language thts why i apologised, we should talk in a more civilised manner, talking out of anger wouldnt help.

some of my relatives were in khmer rouge. there you go, SavarnnaphumKhmer. are they vietnamese in hidden faces? noooo.

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Just from reading that, I don't think it's written by someone with a Ph.D. in Khmer history. Doesn't seem like a scholarly source.

so wait. the Khmers are blaming us for the killing fields?

seriously, some of these Khmers should really take responsibility. i mean, when are you going to take up your responsibility? we fought for your independence from France, didn't we?

Khmer independence? there was not a single Khmer dead for the war against the French, so some of you need to shut the fu-k up and stop complaining.

so wait. the Khmers are blaming us for the killing fields?

seriously, some of these Khmers should really take responsibility. i mean, when are you going to take up your responsibility? we fought for your independence from France, didn't we?

Khmer independence? there was not a single Khmer dead for the war against the French, so some of you need to shut the fu-k up and stop complaining.

SavarnnaphumKhmer, may I ask you why you blame the Vietnamese so much?

^He has to blame it on Vietnamese. Who else is he going to blame it on? His own people? Certainly not! According to him, Vietnamese is very clever. We devise a plan to kill millions of khmer while hiding it from international eyes. Man, we got skill!!

Me blaming Viets! where and how did you come up with that conclusion? what I'm doing here is trying to prove what has happen. In other words go and study and come up with a better questions.

Ask yourself why did you run away from Vietnam? is it because you are Chinese viet or affriad being kill by little Ho?
Heheheeh you questions may be contradicted to what you are asking for. So you believe vietnamese are clever and yes you got skills but Khmer has the knwoledge of your cleverness and the skills you possess.

well good for you? now you know how Vietnamese operate in the 70's, and if you know the vietnamese mentality than you would also know that vietnamese are constantly developing their cleverness so it's even more clever now. so what you knew of vietnam then is not what it is now

well good for you? now you know how Vietnamese operate in the 70's, and if you know the vietnamese mentality than you would also know that vietnamese are constantly developing their cleverness so it's even more clever now. so what you knew of vietnam then is not what it is now

Thank you is that so! yes the vietnamese is very clever and constantly developing thier cleverness and yes it is true that why they destroy poor people home over your hometown to make way for rich guys. What I know then of Vietnam and what is now, is just a change of faces which possess the same ambitions.
Thank you is that so! yes the vietnamese is very clever and constantly developing thier cleverness and yes it is true that why they destroy poor people home over your hometown to make way for rich guys. What I know then of Vietnam and what is now, is just a change of faces which possess the same ambitions.

well they are doing this in China and even Cambodia as well, so vietnam is not alone in this

man this is a waste of time, i better of playing dawn Of War. byes- chaos rulez

Cambodia need to move on, the past is the past.

man this is a waste of time, i better of playing Dawn Of War. byes- Chaos rulez

I hear this kind of accusations all the time. The Vietnamese did this; the Vietnamese did that, on and on and on. If I was young and inexperience enough about the Khmer Rouge revolution, I would be convinced to. However, I am no spring checkhen, I have lived through that period. It is very difficult to convence a victim of the regime like member of my family and I that it was the Vietnamese who orgastrated the killing. All the members of my family were murdered by the Khmer Rouge and I knew them by names and faces and some of them, the villages their families reside. They are not Vietnamese, Khmer to the bones and badass to the bones and stupit to the bones, too.
This is what we called collective amnesia, where people want to forget something that they have done, that is so horrific they don't want to lay claim to it. They start to revised history and tried to find scape-goats to wash their sins away. It was Khmer who killed Khmer. We are our own worst enemy. Until we as a people take responsibilities for wrong that have been done to ourselves, we cannot heal our collective soulds and the honor of those who have perished in that Revolution.
Pol pot, Ieng Sary, Kieu Sampon, Son Sen and all of his party members claimed the same thing about how Vietnamese kill Cambodians. It was under their watch that all the murder were taken place. But they have the audacity to accuse the Vietnamese of such genocide. Who would want to admit that they commited the crime.
Here is the scenario; if the Vietnamese commited those crime while the Khmer Rouge were in power, wouldn't that make them an accomplice; if the Khmer Rouge didn't know that the murder were taken place while they were in charge of the country, wouldn't that make them bumbling idiots..... It was niether one of those scenarios. The Khmer Rouge were solely responsible because nothing happened in Cambodia without the Party(Aunka, an all knowing governing body) knowing about it. They tightly controlled the country that even party members who so slightly disagreed with the power that be, were arrested and send to Thoul Slang, to tortured and murdered. One example is Hue Nim, one of Pol Pot's original party members.

I write more if you are interested.

I totally agree with you, man. I lived through the same $hit. Half of my blood were kill by the kr. Its so easy to blame the vietnamese for what happened, but it is our people who comitted genocide on our people.

These are my words and my views can be challenged if anyone feel that I am wrong.

The whole ethnic cleansing idea was racial in every way. You have Khmer people who likely are ethnically 100% Khmer, but most came from the areas of peasantry and farming, those people would be the staple and majority who would come under the Khmer Rouge's influence. They believed that Cambodia was tainted and foul of Chinese and Vietnamese people who mixed in with the population and they can most be found in Phnom Penh. Thats why people of Phnom Penh origin were executed without any mercy.

The whole genocide solution was to get rid of these people who were of Chinese and Viet descent and have the country under the control of those the KR considered pure Khmer. Now this wasn't done systematically correct because the KR leadership was scattered and not very organized.

The leader of Anka or the chief of the presiding village had too much power and would kill recklessly in jealousy or just because of suspicion right? Now there are theories out there that more people died due to starvation and disease than execution.

The KR failed by removing everyone to the country side where everyone was put under force labor. Thats where everything was wrong. If only the KR had stayed in Phnom Penh and worked for an industrialized Cambodia where it was done properly without hardcore Maoist idealism, there wouldn't be so many deaths. Now ask yourself and everyoen else why the KR would do such a thing? Why move everyone to the countryside, force them to work without proper rest, without proper medical treatment or food?

Thats where the problem lies.

You can say it was the leadership, and yes they are Khmer but why would these leaders choose this path? Dont they want a better Cambodia? Isn't that the point of revolution? Why would patriotic Khmers throw the country into Hell? Why do Khmers kill Khmers? Why would they want to bring Cambodia down into submission?

The 1960's and 1950's of Cambodia was the best there was, we were at the top of South East Asia regaining some territory until the stupid Sihanouk King lost it.

These are my words and my views can be challenged if anyone feel that I am wrong.

The whole ethnic cleansing idea was racial in every way. You have Khmer people who likely are ethnically 100% Khmer, but most came from the areas of peasantry and farming, those people would be the staple and majority who would come under the Khmer Rouge's influence. They believed that Cambodia was tainted and foul of Chinese and Vietnamese people who mixed in with the population and they can most be found in Phnom Penh. Thats why people of Phnom Penh origin were executed without any mercy.

The whole genocide solution was to get rid of these people who were of Chinese and Viet descent and have the country under the control of those the KR considered pure Khmer. Now this wasn't done systematically correct because the KR leadership was scattered and not very organized.

The leader of Anka or the chief of the presiding village had too much power and would kill recklessly in jealousy or just because of suspicion right? Now there are theories out there that more people died due to starvation and disease than execution.

The KR failed by removing everyone to the country side where everyone was put under force labor. Thats where everything was wrong. If only the KR had stayed in Phnom Penh and worked for an industrialized Cambodia where it was done properly without hardcore Maoist idealism, there wouldn't be so many deaths. Now ask yourself and everyoen else why the KR would do such a thing? Why move everyone to the countryside, force them to work without proper rest, without proper medical treatment or food?

Thats where the problem lies.

You can say it was the leadership, and yes they are Khmer but why would these leaders choose this path? Dont they want a better Cambodia? Isn't that the point of revolution? Why would patriotic Khmers throw the country into Hell? Why do Khmers kill Khmers? Why would they want to bring Cambodia down into submission?

The 1960's and 1950's of Cambodia was the best there was, we were at the top of South East Asia regaining some territory until the stupid Sihanouk King lost it.

Brother you hit the spot. I cannot refute your statement and can only applaude you for being so brave to speak the way you do. Just one thing, though, calling King Sihanouk stupid is not quite accurate. He's more like a bumbling idiot, village idiot, or crazy like a fox, one who always derelict his duty....etc, but not stupid because he's still alive today and now his son is in charge. Yes he ran Cambodia into a hole, a black hole.

Yea u can say he's stupid but he has a good heart during the vietnam war we were a neutral country but the King had a secret agreement with ho chi minh that if we help north vietnam win the war with the south and america ho chi minh will give back khmer krom after the war ho chi minh died vietnam didnt came through with the agreement so we as$ out. In conclusion we shoulda side with America and been better of today like thailand.

so when it comes down to the very bottom of who's mostly at fault for this atrocity? america, king sihanouk, or the khmers themselves? .i really want to blame america ..

Yea u can say he's stupid but he has a good heart during the vietnam war we were a neutral country but the King had a secret agreement with ho chi minh that if we help north vietnam win the war with the south and america ho chi minh will give back khmer krom after the war ho chi minh died vietnam didnt came through with the agreement so we as$ out. In conclusion we shoulda side with America and been better of today like thailand.

Dear Mr. MLS,
Have you ever given a speech at UOP(University of the Pacific) in 1991, 92 or 93? Are you a real MLS member? If you are then I know who you are. Beside the point we will speak politics. I am glad you can join us.
King Sihanouk, was very kind at heart but he forgot that he was playing with fire when it come to politics and the faith of his people. He treated his Kingdom as thought it was his own property or just a bargainining chip. He was used by uncle Ho for the Ho Chi Minh Trail and was not repaid for our loses because he has no form of collection agency. He forgot that in politics, people uses other people and he was mistaken that the Vietnamese(HO Chi Minh) will give Cochin-China Delta back to him, he was pimp out just like the rest of Cambodia.
You can tell how we are a bunch of fools by how the Viets treated us today by just rubbing in our faces today like how long doest it take for Vietnam to Defeat our nation. They trolled around and make insulting comments toward us because they know that we have nothing to return. The Viets have always insulted us and always feel good about it because they know that we have nothing to return as insult. However, it took them over 900 years to learn that from the Chien, then they expelled the Chinese out of their land.
If you guys feel the humiliations that I feel by these Viets(I am being very polite) come to our domain and insult us, then you will khow that we are in trouble.

Hello Mr. LG i agree with u that we get insulted and continue because of our status but we can't let them in the way of our recover rebuilding a better and stronger empire ppl can say what they want but with money bring power and with power u will get respect.

Do we still get to keep our land if we don't?

I hope some other country take over Vietnam and let's see how you feel.

It depends on our mood. If we are happy, we will let you temporary hold on to our future land.

Like the US, China, and French have tried. The result was they all three failed one after another.

I doubt Vietnamese are willing to be a small country in SE Asia. What do you think?

Well Dude, you and your Viet Friends,
I am normally a friendly person but when you guys show up to our thread and behaving with a condesending manners I will have to be sturned to you. Besides, this thread is dead a long time ago and you guys try to bring it up many times just to try to start inflaming us. From you, asean.asia, Thang Long and Guang Zhou Destiny and whatever you guys are, are all in the same person because you guys are the same people.
You need to knock it off and stay out of our thread until you can behave like civilized people. I don't really have time to troll around and insult people like you do but at time I must spear time just for you. You and your friends are such nuecents that I actually wasted my time just to write this to you.
Talking about taking over my land, "your future land", you just talking crap. You b!tches moaned and groaned for the last 1,000 years, under the Chinese dominations until your recent independent. Damn you guys have such short memories.
This was not directed to Viets who are decent people with respect for others but what your brethren are doing is unacceptable. I have never gone into your chat and start insulting any of you, nor I have time; but some times, some of your brethren just got out of line.

lemongrass,

Ignore that "asian @$$" kid. we don't like him either in Viet Chat room. He's nothing but a troll. a weasel, a low life SOB..... hope you get my point.