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Ogumo
Riding on the "reviewing the Three Non-Nuclear Principles" argument, Tokyo Governor Ishihara Shintaro repeated remarks in favor of Japan's nuclear armament.

Such remarks are incompatible with a governor who is in charge of the exhibition of the Lucky Dragon No. 5, a tuna fishing boat victimized by the first U.S. hydrogen bomb test explosion at the Bikini Atoll in the Pacific in 1954. Akahata of July 23 said: ( I feel that the bikini tragedy has nothing to do with this situation. If anything I can understand why ishihara feels the way he does.)

Soon after Chief Cabinet Secretary Fukuda Yasuo suggested the need for reviewing the Three Non-nuclear Principles on May 31, the Tokyo governor called Fukuda in encouragement and faxed his old magazine article to Fukuda.

In his article entitled "The myth of 'faith to non-nuclear' has disappeared" (October 1970 issue of monthly "Shokun"), Ishihara stressed the need to openly discuss whether Japan should have nuclear weapons or not."

He maintained in the article that suppressing the argument on the possibility of Japan's nuclear armament could lead to traitorous consequences. He went so far as to say that the most effective way with regard to Japan's nuclear armament may be "nuclear weapons carried by advanced nuclear-powered submarines."

As a result of the House of Councilors election in 1968, he became a lawmaker. And at his first press conference he declared, "I want to begin with the question of nuclear weapons in that Japanese people's antipathy to nuclear weapons needs to be removed." ( I definately agree. Japan's antipathy of these weapons is ridiculous. People such as tadatoshi akiba and the dozens that came before him are fools to believe nuclear weapons will be abolished anytime soon. This is some ridiculous fairy tale they have inside of their heads along with the entire japanese population. Being naive will be the downfall of japanese civilization.)

In the nuclear era, he asserted, "a country must defend itself by the use or threat to use nuclear weapons of its own or of others." He has thus supported the U.S. policy of bringing in nuclear weapons into Japan (January 15, 1969, House of Councilors Budget Committee). (I agree with his statement. However I do not support AMERICA bringing their nuclear weapons into japan. That is a no no. I feel that japan should be limiting americas power in our nation. Not strenghtening it.)

"Anyhow, some day in the future, Japan will have to find itself armed with nuclear weapons," he wrote for the monthly magazine "Bungei Shunju" December 1969 issue. Since then, he has often repeated that the Three Non-nuclear Principles must be reviewed. (I agree with that quote too. The question is will japan come to the realization of this too late? I hope this will not be the case.)

After he became Tokyo governor, he advocated that for Japan to maintain the potentiality of possessing nuclear weapons will mean Japan gaining advantage in its international position (June 2002 Metropolitan Assembly). (any long term advantages should be taken. Or atleast greatly considered.)

However, the world current is completely opposite to what Ishihara argues. The 2000 Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) review conference urged the nuclear possessing powers to definitely work to get nuclear arsenals withdrawn.
(It may be a attempt. However I feel that it is a futile attempt. Nuclear weapons are just too powerful and frightening to for people to give up. If anything it is a attempt by nations that already hold these weapons to secure their place amongst the rest.)

The governor's position of encouraging Japan's nuclear armament as effective measures to threaten foreign countries can never be compatible with the wishes of the people of Tokyo and all other prefectures who favor the elimination of nuclear weapons. He can hardly represent Japan's Capital to make friendly ties with the whole world. (end) (Now I don't agree with japan using weapons like this to threaten others. Unless it is a situation like north korea.)

http://www.japan-press.co.jp/2294/tokyo.html

I do not support ishihara. I feel that if he really got in control that he would cause disaster imperialism in asia again. Or atleast try. He is too much for me. Not to mention the fact that he does not know when to close his mouth. Denies historical events and things of that nature. However I do support many of his views. This is one of them as you reader may have guessed. This is also one of the stances the jcp takes that I do not support. I feel that it is ridiculous for japan to work so hard in attempts to disarm the world of nuclear weapons when no one else is willing to do so. If the world really wanted the nuclear weapons gone they would be gone. Japan should arm with the nuclear weapons for it's own safety.
直隸總督
I just want to know how could extreme right-wingers such as Ishihara stay on his position for such a long time. Is it because many people share his point of view ( as you can see he won his last election by a landslide) or is it some top officials want to keep him.
Zhu_Rong_Ji
Isn't he the one that called us genetic pollution ?
直隸總督
QUOTE (Zhu_Rong_Ji @ May 31 2004, 05:29 PM)
Isn't he the one that called us genetic pollution ?

Correct, he also wanted to deport Chinese in Tokyo.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
I can't see the problem with Japan having nuclear weapons if countries such as China, Israel, India and Pakistan all have them. Iran could be having them as early as next year and who knows about North Korea.
Ogumo
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ May 31 2004, 07:27 PM)
I just want to know how could extreme right-wingers such as Ishihara stay on his position for such a long time. Is it because many people share his point of view ( as you can see he won his last election by a landslide) or is it some top officials want to keep him.

Collective thinking. Ishihara the first time got elected I believe because of his brother's fame. That was the first time. The second time may have been because he actually did have results from his first time as governor. I think the officials wanting him to stay in power factored was part of it too. I think that was a big factor. Ishihara has all right wing views. Most japanese are leftwing. So I don't think the majority voted for this man simply because of his point of view.

A better question would be "Why has this man not been forced to resign from his position"?
直隸總督
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 31 2004, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ May 31 2004, 07:27 PM)
I just want to know how could extreme right-wingers such as Ishihara stay on his position for such a long time. Is it because many people share his point of view ( as you can see he won his last election by a landslide) or is it some top officials want to keep him.

Collective thinking. Ishihara the first time got elected I believe because of his brother's fame. That was the first time. The second time may have been because he actually did have results from his first time as governor. I think the officials wanting him to stay in power factored was part of it too. I think that was a big factor. Ishihara has all right wing views. Most japanese are leftwing. So I don't think the majority voted for this man simply because of his point of view.

A better question would be "Why has this man not been forced to resign from his position"?

Perhaps the general population are indifferent to politics? Or people are just used to it.
YManchun
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ May 31 2004, 07:39 PM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 31 2004, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ May 31 2004, 07:27 PM)
I just want to know how could extreme right-wingers such as Ishihara stay on his position for such a long time. Is it because many people share his point of view ( as you can see he won his last election by a landslide) or is it some top officials want to keep him.

Collective thinking. Ishihara the first time got elected I believe because of his brother's fame. That was the first time. The second time may have been because he actually did have results from his first time as governor. I think the officials wanting him to stay in power factored was part of it too. I think that was a big factor. Ishihara has all right wing views. Most japanese are leftwing. So I don't think the majority voted for this man simply because of his point of view.

A better question would be "Why has this man not been forced to resign from his position"?

Perhaps the general population are indifferent to politics? Or people are just used to it.

I think you're right. They either don't care about politics or they don't have enough political power to get him out.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (YManchun @ May 31 2004, 07:42 PM)
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ May 31 2004, 07:39 PM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 31 2004, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ May 31 2004, 07:27 PM)
I just want to know how could extreme right-wingers such as Ishihara stay on his position for such a long time. Is it because many people share his point of view ( as you can see he won his last election by a landslide) or is it some top officials want to keep him.

Collective thinking. Ishihara the first time got elected I believe because of his brother's fame. That was the first time. The second time may have been because he actually did have results from his first time as governor. I think the officials wanting him to stay in power factored was part of it too. I think that was a big factor. Ishihara has all right wing views. Most japanese are leftwing. So I don't think the majority voted for this man simply because of his point of view.

A better question would be "Why has this man not been forced to resign from his position"?

Perhaps the general population are indifferent to politics? Or people are just used to it.

I think you're right. They either don't care about politics or they don't have enough political power to get him out.

Or maybe he's just popular. The tide is turning and the people are becoming more right wing?
TDscorpion
Ishihara is just harmless.. He does more harm for Japan than good .. He is too old... 10 years max .. Japan needs a leader that crossed Kozumi and Ishihara
Ogumo
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ May 31 2004, 07:39 PM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 31 2004, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ May 31 2004, 07:27 PM)
I just want to know how could extreme right-wingers such as Ishihara stay on his position for such a long time. Is it because many people share his point of view ( as you can see he won his last election by a landslide) or is it some top officials want to keep him.

Collective thinking. Ishihara the first time got elected I believe because of his brother's fame. That was the first time. The second time may have been because he actually did have results from his first time as governor. I think the officials wanting him to stay in power factored was part of it too. I think that was a big factor. Ishihara has all right wing views. Most japanese are leftwing. So I don't think the majority voted for this man simply because of his point of view.

A better question would be "Why has this man not been forced to resign from his position"?

Perhaps the general population are indifferent to politics? Or people are just used to it.

Perhaps who knows? In any case I do not think that ishihara will be the last right wing japanese person in power.

QUOTE
Or maybe he's just popular. The tide is turning and the people are becoming more right wing?


I doubt it. However nationalism is on the rise in japan since the year 1998. Ishihara has some nationalistic ideals that possibly the public sympathize with.

QUOTE
Japan needs a leader that crossed Kozumi and Ishihara


Well that was a simple way to put it.
IORI
This governor has serious issues but mostly he likes to piss off China and N korea for some reason he's close to the Taiwanese leadership and is friends with lee teng hui and A-bian (old fart probably still thinks Taiwan is a colony of japan).

But he is a weird mother fu-ker and his comments are so ridiculous that it's laughable.

I think the only reason why someone like that is still in politics is because there's noone else better just a bunch of old bats out of touch with society and the youth in general.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (IORI @ Jun 1 2004, 06:27 AM)
This governor has serious issues but mostly he likes to piss off China and N korea for some reason he's close to the Taiwanese leadership and is friends with lee teng hui and A-bian (old fart probably still thinks Taiwan is a colony of japan).

But he is a weird mother fu-ker and his comments are so ridiculous that it's laughable.

I think the only reason why someone like that is still in politics is because there's noone else better just a bunch of old bats out of touch with society and the youth in general.

And I think that your language of profanity is so ridiculous that it's laughable also. There's no need to get so heated there.

I think he's just anti-Chinese and anti-Korean like alot of Japanese do. That has got nothing to do with his political support though. He must have done something good for the electorate in order to be reelected with a landslide majority.
barkerintokyo
You don't have to be a right-winger or a fanatic to like Ishihara Shintaro. He's a great leader and the things he says are mostly correct. Although I personally disagree with what he believes about nuclear arms, he has a lot of great ideas for our country.

Ishihara did not say anything about Chinese being genetic pollution, that was just a rumor started on the internet to try to discredit him. But he is right to want to get the illegal Chinese immigrants out of Tokyo. First point, they are illegally here, of course they should leave. Second, they have a high crime rate. People bring up numbers to support the opposite argument but they are in fact proving Ishihara's point. Of course there are more Japanese people committing crimes in Tokyo, if Chinese were the primary causes of crime then no Chinese should be even allowed into the country, legal or not. But the fact that there is such a high percentage (last I checked it was around 30%) of crimes being committed by Chinese just proves that Chinese illegal immigrants should be deported. The crime rate is increasing porportionally to the increase in Chinese immigration.

Ishihara doesn't believe that the Second Nanking Incident occurred because it didn't. All the evidence that have been dug up throughout the years point to this basic fact. It never happened. Most importantly, if it really did happen, they should at least have a proper memorial that is politically correct. Don't use the word "j@p" on a national memorial. It is obvious that the Chinese want to use the Second Nanking Incident as a propaganda to stir anti-Japanese feelings within China.

Ishihara uses some stiff words but that's because he grew up in a time when the words that are considered politically incorrect were not politically incorrect. Like people in the states still called blacks "N*ggas" even after they decided that it was politically incorrect.

The fact that foreigners view Ishihara as radical need to reassess their views and really LOOK at the things he says. He is a great leader and if you still don't like him, you can rest assured that he will never become a Prime Minister, the farthest he'll ever go is Tokyo Prefectural Governor.
IORI
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jun 1 2004, 08:25 AM)
You don't have to be a right-winger or a fanatic to like Ishihara Shintaro. He's a great leader and the things he says are mostly correct. Although I personally disagree with what he believes about nuclear arms, he has a lot of great ideas for our country.

Ishihara did not say anything about Chinese being genetic pollution, that was just a rumor started on the internet to try to discredit him. But he is right to want to get the illegal Chinese immigrants out of Tokyo. First point, they are illegally here, of course they should leave. Second, they have a high crime rate. People bring up numbers to support the opposite argument but they are in fact proving Ishihara's point. Of course there are more Japanese people committing crimes in Tokyo, if Chinese were the primary causes of crime then no Chinese should be even allowed into the country, legal or not. But the fact that there is such a high percentage (last I checked it was around 30%) of crimes being committed by Chinese just proves that Chinese illegal immigrants should be deported. The crime rate is increasing porportionally to the increase in Chinese immigration.

Ishihara doesn't believe that the Second Nanking Incident occurred because it didn't. All the evidence that have been dug up throughout the years point to this basic fact. It never happened. Most importantly, if it really did happen, they should at least have a proper memorial that is politically correct. Don't use the word "j@p" on a national memorial. It is obvious that the Chinese want to use the Second Nanking Incident as a propaganda to stir anti-Japanese feelings within China.

Ishihara uses some stiff words but that's because he grew up in a time when the words that are considered politically incorrect were not politically incorrect. Like people in the states still called blacks "N*ggas" even after they decided that it was politically incorrect.

The fact that foreigners view Ishihara as radical need to reassess their views and really LOOK at the things he says. He is a great leader and if you still don't like him, you can rest assured that he will never become a Prime Minister, the farthest he'll ever go is Tokyo Prefectural Governor.

Firstly ur a fu-kin idiot

He didn't only just say Chinese were "genetic pollution" he also said Chinese people have "criminal DNA" It's not a rumour because everyone knows that he openly says these things and u only have to listen to some quotes from his speeches to see his offensive comments.

And secondly don't ever say the nanjing massacres didn't happen motherfu-ker i know people who had there asses bombed by japanese bombers and my Grandfather fought in the frontlines and saw the beheadings and shooting of civilians so don't u go around spreading ur horse$hit.

thirdly how the fu-k can they use the word "j@p" on a memorial written in chinese characters? and even if they did then it's there right to because i don't see any compensation whatsoever just a bunch of bull$hit about how everything was false.

Get ur facts straight before u make up $hit
barkerintokyo
Make up "$hit" you say? Let me give you some facts that may change your mind:

First, the number of casualties:
The official People's Republic of China reports state that the number killed was 300,000. For this to have occurred, the population had to have decreased by three hundred thousand. Three important points that need to be observed to fully understand how this number had to have been fabricated: 1) Nov 16, 1937 Chiang Kai-Shek ordered an evacuation of all government officials and the wealthy. The only people who remained were the poor and the Chinese soldiers. 2) Dec. 7, "Scorched-earth" policy of Chinese Army left a 16km radius outside of the city of Nanking completely burned to the ground. People who lived outside the 16km radius were driven away when their houses were burned down. 3) Dec 8, Tang Sheng-zhi ordered all civilians to assemble in the "Refugee-Zone," therefore all of the civilian population was gathered in the "Refugee-Zone." The population of the zone was 200,000 before any fighting commenced according to chairman of the Safety Zone Committee, John Rabe. Chinese soldiers outside the zone numbered 50,000 according to the written judgment in the IMTFE. In 1938, Lewis S.C. Smythe, professor of Nanking University, investigated the population with the help of Chinese staffs. The number he came up with was 250,000 to 270,000 by the end of March. The Nanking City Administrative Office of the Nanking Restoration Government registered 277,000 inhabitants on March 28, 1928. These figures in fact prove that there was a significant increase in the population of Nanking rather than a decrease of 300,000 people. At the least, the Chinese government is lying about their numbers. The Chinese government when formulating these numbers relied on only 11 eye witnesses and they also base their numbers on the fact that 190,000 victims left no bodies. Who could believe such incredible testimonies that 190,000 corpses left no traces? And if you do simple mathematics from December 14 to December 18, an average of 38,000 Chinese a day had to have been killed by only 1600 soldiers. Auschwitz which systematically killed Jews in gasing chambers could barely kill 710 people a day. In order to kill 38,000 a day, 53 facilities like ones in Auschwitz would have been needed. There were no facilities found in Nanking whatsoever. Plus you can't build 53 Auschwitzs in 4 days.

If you want to bring out the fact that westerners witnessed it too, I think you may need to reconsider. There were only 20 foreigners at Nanking during the beginning of the fall. By the end of the fall there were only 5, the others had all left. The original report they filed only stated 49 murders, of which they only eye witnessed two. Both were confirmed to be 'legal' executions by ther testimonies at the IMTFE.

Also, most of China's information comes from the work of Iris Chang who is a very questionable source. Here are some things professors of American colleges have to say (these are direct quotes) about what Chang says about Japan's "systematic murder":

Richard Finn, Emeritus Professor of American University, "She referred to that notorious order for Prince ASAKANOMIYA and his staff to 'kill all POWs', but her statement was of no reliable evidence."

David M. Kennedy, the chief of history department of Stanford University, "She [Iris Chang] is clearly tempted to argue that the Rape of Nanking resulted from formal political decisions taken at the highest levels, an argument whose virtually lone proponent is the historian David Bergamini, whom Chang repeatedly cites. In a decidedly eccentric book, Japan's Imperial Consipiracy (1971), Bergamini tried to lay the blame for Nanjing and much else squarely at the feet of Emperor Hirohito. Chang is obliged to concede that 'unfortunately, Bergamini's book was seriously criticized by reputable historians.' That's putting it mildly. One reviewer observed that Bergamini was 'believable only by violating every canon of acceptable documentation.' The historian Barbara Tuchman said that Bergamini's thesis 'appears to be almost entirely a product of the author's inference and of his predilection for the sinister explanation.'"

I have more information if you want it. And when you overcome your fear of the truth, you can always apologize for being so rude to me.
PervertBurger
IORI, just for the record..do you think Japanese girls are hot?
AtlantisStar
QUOTE (IORI @ Jun 1 2004, 10:11 AM)
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jun 1 2004, 08:25 AM)
You don't have to be a right-winger or a fanatic to like Ishihara Shintaro. He's a great leader and the things he says are mostly correct. Although I personally disagree with what he believes about nuclear arms, he has a lot of great ideas for our country.

Ishihara did not say anything about Chinese being genetic pollution, that was just a rumor started on the internet to try to discredit him. But he is right to want to get the illegal Chinese immigrants out of Tokyo. First point, they are illegally here, of course they should leave. Second, they have a high crime rate. People bring up numbers to support the opposite argument but they are in fact proving Ishihara's point. Of course there are more Japanese people committing crimes in Tokyo, if Chinese were the primary causes of crime then no Chinese should be even allowed into the country, legal or not. But the fact that there is such a high percentage (last I checked it was around 30%) of crimes being committed by Chinese just proves that Chinese illegal immigrants should be deported. The crime rate is increasing porportionally to the increase in Chinese immigration.

Ishihara doesn't believe that the Second Nanking Incident occurred because it didn't. All the evidence that have been dug up throughout the years point to this basic fact. It never happened. Most importantly, if it really did happen, they should at least have a proper memorial that is politically correct. Don't use the word "j@p" on a national memorial. It is obvious that the Chinese want to use the Second Nanking Incident as a propaganda to stir anti-Japanese feelings within China.

Ishihara uses some stiff words but that's because he grew up in a time when the words that are considered politically incorrect were not politically incorrect. Like people in the states still called blacks "N*ggas" even after they decided that it was politically incorrect.

The fact that foreigners view Ishihara as radical need to reassess their views and really LOOK at the things he says. He is a great leader and if you still don't like him, you can rest assured that he will never become a Prime Minister, the farthest he'll ever go is Tokyo Prefectural Governor.

Firstly ur a fu-kin idiot

He didn't only just say Chinese were "genetic pollution" he also said Chinese people have "criminal DNA" It's not a rumour because everyone knows that he openly says these things and u only have to listen to some quotes from his speeches to see his offensive comments.

And secondly don't ever say the nanjing massacres didn't happen motherfu-ker i know people who had there asses bombed by japanese bombers and my Grandfather fought in the frontlines and saw the beheadings and shooting of civilians so don't u go around spreading ur horse$hit.

thirdly how the fu-k can they use the word "j@p" on a memorial written in chinese characters? and even if they did then it's there right to because i don't see any compensation whatsoever just a bunch of bull$hit about how everything was false.

Get ur facts straight before u make up $hit

The average BLASTP and BLASTX results of a general population comparing the DNA of 1000 Chinese (from all over china) and 1000 Japanese states that the only difference between them is a slight phenotypic expression. Not much of a genotypic expression. The man is obviously an idiot for the fact that there are the exact same number of lethal genes in Chinese and Japanese. Someone needs to take a genetics class...
Zhu_Rong_Ji
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Nanjing Massacre didn't occur.... rotflmao.gif
Ogumo
QUOTE (Zhu_Rong_Ji @ Jun 3 2004, 08:01 PM)
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Nanjing Massacre didn't occur.... rotflmao.gif

Go easy on him.
tool666
QUOTE (Zhu_Rong_Ji @ Jun 3 2004, 08:01 PM)
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Nanjing Massacre didn't occur.... rotflmao.gif

The bombings on Nagasaki and Hiroshima didn't occur embarassedlaugh.gif
Ogumo
^ I wonder what the reaction out of japan would really be if the chinese started denying hiroshima and nagasaki. I know would be interesting.
barkerintokyo
The thing is, you can't deny Hiroshima and Nagasaki because there were so many documents, I witnesses, and millions of evidences that cannot be denied stating that it happened. It's caught on video, that's just concrete evidence.

The Chinese have no concrete evidence and many reputable people around the world have mixed opinions about whether it happened or not. To laugh at an opinion of a person who doesn't believe the Nanking massacre occurred is itself a laughable thing to do.
Rad Raz
Believe me, there are Hiroshima/Nagasaki masscre denials as well as there are Holocaust and Nanjing masscre denials.
barkerintokyo
Yes, there are some who deny that the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings ever happened. There are people who deny evolution. There are people who think that NASA didn't land on the moon.

The thing is, there are always people who will believe ridiculous conspiracy theories. Then again there are conspiracies that actually happened. Now, it is up to people to use their rational thinking and logic skills to be able to sift the fact from the fib. Nanking Massacre is based on a whole lot of shakey evidence and comes from a country that is known for its treachery and lies.

Judging from all the evidence, there may have been some number of Chinese killed but the number 300,000 is ridiculous. Anyone with any grasp of common sense can tell that that number was pulled out of some corrupt Chinese politician's @$$. OR, you can see it this way. Chinese proverbs and old sayings tend to use the number '3' a lot. '3000' in Chinese signifies a large number and appears in proverbs representing very large. Perhaps the Chinese government just used 100 times a very large number (300,000) as a way of saying that Japanese killed a lot and now their number has become the official number. I dunno. But I can say that China's blatant anti-Japan stance has gone way too far.
IORI
Baker ur an idiot

let me tell u something the japanese soldier was a killing machine one japanese soldier could kill hundreds of civilians within an hour.It's not hard to kill unarmed civilians only think about it if u had a rifle and a boyonet u could easily kill several people within minutes but these men were trained killers in fact they made games out of beheading civilians now u times that by thousands of more soldiers then u have urself a massacre.Don't deny the awful truth japan should just learn lessons from the German chancellor and when he went to Normandy he was repentant and sorry and in my books that is a respectable man.For once in ur lives say we were wrong and we fully acknowledge it simple words a modern democratic japan could and should be saying instead of having Gaffe prone politicians talk about DNA pollution or denials or double standards i would like to see a japanese schroder who's sorry and apologetic.

Who knows maybe someday.
IORI
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jun 7 2004, 01:07 AM)
Yes, there are some who deny that the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings ever happened. There are people who deny evolution. There are people who think that NASA didn't land on the moon.

The thing is, there are always people who will believe ridiculous conspiracy theories. Then again there are conspiracies that actually happened. Now, it is up to people to use their rational thinking and logic skills to be able to sift the fact from the fib. Nanking Massacre is based on a whole lot of shakey evidence and comes from a country that is known for its treachery and lies.

Judging from all the evidence, there may have been some number of Chinese killed but the number 300,000 is ridiculous. Anyone with any grasp of common sense can tell that that number was pulled out of some corrupt Chinese politician's @$$. OR, you can see it this way. Chinese proverbs and old sayings tend to use the number '3' a lot. '3000' in Chinese signifies a large number and appears in proverbs representing very large. Perhaps the Chinese government just used 100 times a very large number (300,000) as a way of saying that Japanese killed a lot and now their number has become the official number. I dunno. But I can say that China's blatant anti-Japan stance has gone way too far.

Oh teachery and lies is that what u think of the victims?

Well fu-k u and the ground the u stand on because to me ur nothing but a stupid j@p no not a japanese but a j@p there's a difference.

japanese are a respectable and intelligent people but a j@p is a bastard like u who kick dirt in a deep wound nothing but a low life who wants to make enemies.

U are not a japanese

u are a j@p
Ogumo
QUOTE (IORI @ Jun 7 2004, 06:41 AM)
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jun 7 2004, 01:07 AM)
Yes, there are some who deny that the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings ever happened. There are people who deny evolution. There are people who think that NASA didn't land on the moon.

The thing is, there are always people who will believe ridiculous conspiracy theories. Then again there are conspiracies that actually happened. Now, it is up to people to use their rational thinking and logic skills to be able to sift the fact from the fib. Nanking Massacre is based on a whole lot of shakey evidence and comes from a country that is known for its treachery and lies.

Judging from all the evidence, there may have been some number of Chinese killed but the number 300,000 is ridiculous. Anyone with any grasp of common sense can tell that that number was pulled out of some corrupt Chinese politician's @$$. OR, you can see it this way. Chinese proverbs and old sayings tend to use the number '3' a lot. '3000' in Chinese signifies a large number and appears in proverbs representing very large. Perhaps the Chinese government just used 100 times a very large number (300,000) as a way of saying that Japanese killed a lot and now their number has become the official number. I dunno. But I can say that China's blatant anti-Japan stance has gone way too far.

Oh teachery and lies is that what u think of the victims?

Well fu-k u and the ground the u stand on because to me ur nothing but a stupid j@p no not a japanese but a j@p there's a difference.

japanese are a respectable and intelligent people but a j@p is a bastard like u who kick dirt in a deep wound nothing but a low life who wants to make enemies.

U are not a japanese

u are a j@p

fu-k you too. Filthy decrepid b!tch. I don't know what the hell you think this is acting like this is. Now if I started using the word ch!nk and g@@k everyone would be up in arms. I dont care if you dont like what he said or not. You have no right to start using racial slurs behind it. fu-king ridiculous.
huaren
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jun 7 2004, 12:16 PM)
QUOTE (IORI @ Jun 7 2004, 06:41 AM)
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jun 7 2004, 01:07 AM)
Yes, there are some who deny that the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings ever happened. There are people who deny evolution. There are people who think that NASA didn't land on the moon.

The thing is, there are always people who will believe ridiculous conspiracy theories. Then again there are conspiracies that actually happened. Now, it is up to people to use their rational thinking and logic skills to be able to sift the fact from the fib. Nanking Massacre is based on a whole lot of shakey evidence and comes from a country that is known for its treachery and lies.

Judging from all the evidence, there may have been some number of Chinese killed but the number 300,000 is ridiculous. Anyone with any grasp of common sense can tell that that number was pulled out of some corrupt Chinese politician's @$$. OR, you can see it this way. Chinese proverbs and old sayings tend to use the number '3' a lot. '3000' in Chinese signifies a large number and appears in proverbs representing very large. Perhaps the Chinese government just used 100 times a very large number (300,000) as a way of saying that Japanese killed a lot and now their number has become the official number. I dunno. But I can say that China's blatant anti-Japan stance has gone way too far.

Oh teachery and lies is that what u think of the victims?

Well fu-k u and the ground the u stand on because to me ur nothing but a stupid j@p no not a japanese but a j@p there's a difference.

japanese are a respectable and intelligent people but a j@p is a bastard like u who kick dirt in a deep wound nothing but a low life who wants to make enemies.

U are not a japanese

u are a j@p

fu-k you too. Filthy decrepid b!tch. I don't know what the hell you think this is acting like this is. Now if I started using the word ch!nk and g@@k everyone would be up in arms. I dont care if you dont like what he said or not. You have no right to start using racial slurs behind it. fu-king ridiculous.

You better watch your language. kiss.gif
Ogumo
QUOTE (huaren @ Jun 7 2004, 01:16 PM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jun 7 2004, 12:16 PM)
QUOTE (IORI @ Jun 7 2004, 06:41 AM)
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jun 7 2004, 01:07 AM)
Yes, there are some who deny that the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings ever happened. There are people who deny evolution. There are people who think that NASA didn't land on the moon.

The thing is, there are always people who will believe ridiculous conspiracy theories. Then again there are conspiracies that actually happened. Now, it is up to people to use their rational thinking and logic skills to be able to sift the fact from the fib. Nanking Massacre is based on a whole lot of shakey evidence and comes from a country that is known for its treachery and lies.

Judging from all the evidence, there may have been some number of Chinese killed but the number 300,000 is ridiculous. Anyone with any grasp of common sense can tell that that number was pulled out of some corrupt Chinese politician's @$$. OR, you can see it this way. Chinese proverbs and old sayings tend to use the number '3' a lot. '3000' in Chinese signifies a large number and appears in proverbs representing very large. Perhaps the Chinese government just used 100 times a very large number (300,000) as a way of saying that Japanese killed a lot and now their number has become the official number. I dunno. But I can say that China's blatant anti-Japan stance has gone way too far.

Oh teachery and lies is that what u think of the victims?

Well fu-k u and the ground the u stand on because to me ur nothing but a stupid j@p no not a japanese but a j@p there's a difference.

japanese are a respectable and intelligent people but a j@p is a bastard like u who kick dirt in a deep wound nothing but a low life who wants to make enemies.

U are not a japanese

u are a j@p

fu-k you too. Filthy decrepid b!tch. I don't know what the hell you think this is acting like this is. Now if I started using the word ch!nk and g@@k everyone would be up in arms. I dont care if you dont like what he said or not. You have no right to start using racial slurs behind it. fu-king ridiculous.

You better watch your language. kiss.gif

fu-k you. kiss.gif
IORI
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jun 7 2004, 12:16 PM)
QUOTE (IORI @ Jun 7 2004, 06:41 AM)
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Jun 7 2004, 01:07 AM)
Yes, there are some who deny that the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings ever happened. There are people who deny evolution. There are people who think that NASA didn't land on the moon.

The thing is, there are always people who will believe ridiculous conspiracy theories. Then again there are conspiracies that actually happened. Now, it is up to people to use their rational thinking and logic skills to be able to sift the fact from the fib. Nanking Massacre is based on a whole lot of shakey evidence and comes from a country that is known for its treachery and lies.

Judging from all the evidence, there may have been some number of Chinese killed but the number 300,000 is ridiculous. Anyone with any grasp of common sense can tell that that number was pulled out of some corrupt Chinese politician's @$$. OR, you can see it this way. Chinese proverbs and old sayings tend to use the number '3' a lot. '3000' in Chinese signifies a large number and appears in proverbs representing very large. Perhaps the Chinese government just used 100 times a very large number (300,000) as a way of saying that Japanese killed a lot and now their number has become the official number. I dunno. But I can say that China's blatant anti-Japan stance has gone way too far.

Oh teachery and lies is that what u think of the victims?

Well fu-k u and the ground the u stand on because to me ur nothing but a stupid j@p no not a japanese but a j@p there's a difference.

japanese are a respectable and intelligent people but a j@p is a bastard like u who kick dirt in a deep wound nothing but a low life who wants to make enemies.

U are not a japanese

u are a j@p

fu-k you too. Filthy decrepid b!tch. I don't know what the hell you think this is acting like this is. Now if I started using the word ch!nk and g@@k everyone would be up in arms. I dont care if you dont like what he said or not. You have no right to start using racial slurs behind it. fu-king ridiculous.

I don't give a $hit u can call a someone a chinese because there are alot of dumb chinese too.let's be honest there's some dumb chinese or whatever nationality u are.

I don't like the $hit that he said and i'm not gonna apologise fu-k that u can suck my d!ck.

If this prick has nothing good to say then he sould stop typing up crap about how the massacres didn't happen or $hit like that.Baker is trying start some online anger and i hope he chokes on $hit.

baker tsao ni ma de bi
Ogumo
^ As I previously said. fu-k you for your use of the word j@p in a derogatory way. I personally do not give a damn what your reason was behind it.
IORI
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jun 8 2004, 12:51 AM)
^ As I previously said. fu-k you for your use of the word j@p in a derogatory way. I personally do not give a damn what your reason was behind it.

Oh boo hoo i don't give a rats @$$ what u think either.
barkerintokyo
First of all, you got my name wrong. It's barker. Thank you.

Second of all, you can really tell a person's intelligence by the way they talk or write. The fact that you use racial slurs to try to get your point across really reveals your ignorance and incompetance.

Thirdly, I have every right to make my own conclusions based on the available facts. Seeing as there were only 1600 soldiers (not thousands as you previously stated) and they were only there for a certain number of days I'm making an educated and mathematical guess as to the impossiblity of the matter. Burning 190,000 bodies to dust and making them all disappear is a trick not even Hudini can do.

And the fact that you think that there's not even a single Japanese person who feels sorry for what happened during WWII shows your idiocity. Japanese people are force fed from when they were first born that they are the scum of the Earth because someone they didn't even know had committed a crime in the name of their country decades ago. The people who were directly affected are almost gone and all the war criminals are dead. Korea and China are the only countries in the ENTIRE WORLD who is still wracked up about WWII. Get over it geez. And our Prime Ministers have apologized for things that happened. Just because there never has been an official apology doesn't mean that the government doesn't officially recognize its mistakes (not to mention that the the government we have now has no relations with the government that committed the so-called atrocities anyway).

Oh yeah, I think it's really cool how you type in leet. Let me do it too. 1 4M 4 DUM8455. 1 TH1NK 1'M R34L C00L B3C4U53 1 7YP3 1N L337. ROFLMAO. LOLOLOL. W00000T.
IORI
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And the fact that you think that there's not even a single Japanese person who feels sorry for what happened during WWII shows your idiocity. Japanese people are force fed from when they were first born that they are the scum of the Earth because someone they didn't even know had committed a crime in the name of their country decades ago. The people who were directly affected are almost gone and all the war criminals are dead. Korea and China are the only countries in the ENTIRE WORLD who is still wracked up about WWII. Get over it geez. And our Prime Ministers have apologized for things that happened. Just because there never has been an official apology doesn't mean that the government doesn't officially recognize its mistakes (not to mention that the the government we have now has no relations with the government that committed the so-called atrocities anyway).


No one forgets what veterans did are u gonna tell me the US and other ex soldiers who just celebrated D-day is a day for nothing? And wow i guess japanese must be over hiroshima or nagasaki because that's perfectly fine if u people wanna forget such things or maybe u can tell the jews and victims to allow politicians in Germany to make anti semetic comments.

No one told the japanese they are the scum of the Earth but saying $hit like that doesn't exactly make people wanna get too excited about japan.

As i mentioned before denial will not work it will only make things worse.

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Oh yeah, I think it's really cool how you type in leet. Let me do it too. 1 4M 4 DUM8455. 1 TH1NK 1'M R34L C00L B3C4U53 1 7YP3 1N L337. ROFLMAO. LOLOLOL. W00000T.


Barket baker some $hit or other i couldn't give a rats @$$ because ur not funni but a lameass, asexual, hentai masturbating loser.

And secondly i never typed like that u fu-ked up rockjob

I guess u have to act like a dumbcunt online to make up for that tiny 1mm c@ck and brain of yours.
barkerintokyo
haha nice. Just keep on talking and you keep on incriminating yourself.
IORI
No comebacks bro

U talk like a gaycunt
Ogumo
^Why don't you just spy on some women in the shower? I mean that is what you like...
huaren
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jun 10 2004, 03:00 PM)
^Why don't you just spy on some women in the shower and shut the hell? I mean that is what you like...

Who are you refering to?
Ogumo
Iori and his perverse thread.
huaren
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jun 10 2004, 03:07 PM)
Iori and his perverse thread.

Now you are insulting IORI. I cant believe you even made such post. The main question is, how you know IORI like to “spy on some women in the shower”? You don’t even know him, all you did is simply insult him.

You know I can simply say you like to suck your mother @$$.
Ogumo
QUOTE (huaren @ Jun 10 2004, 03:11 PM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Jun 10 2004, 03:07 PM)
Iori and his perverse thread.

Now you are insulting IORI. I cant believe you even made such post. The main question is, how you know IORI like to “spy on some women in the shower”? You don’t even know him, all you did is simply insult him.

You know I can simply say you like to suck your mother @$$.

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Now you are insulting IORI.


I wasnt insulting him. I was simply saying that perhaps he would like do indulge in his hobby instead of insulting japanese people.


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cant believe you even made such post.


There is nothing not to believe. I can't believe that you have not been banned from this place for good.

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The main question is, how you know IORI like to “spy on some women in the shower”?


The below quote.

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I got several footage of girls in the change room.

Anybody wants any they can message me.


http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9390

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You don’t even know him, all you did is simply insult him.


I don't know him and do not want to. I also did not insult anyone.

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You know I can simply say you like to suck your mother @$$.


Respond with what you want to huaren. This is a old thread. I dont care what you do here.
huaren
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I wasnt insulting him. I was simply saying that perhaps he would like do indulge in his hobby instead of insulting japanese people.

He didn’t insulted any Japanese people. Does he say something like “Japanese sucks” No, he was only defending himself.

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There is nothing not to believe. I can't believe that you have not been banned from this place for good.

I always follow the forum rules, and why should I be banned? They are other member who are even worst, they made claim like “XXX races are stupid and ugly etc” and they are the one should be banned. Just because you don’t like me, so that’s why you always hope that I will be banned.

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The below quote.

From that post, we already know that he may be just kidding. This is online, every people can simply talk whatever he or she want. I can just register a new account at other forum with the nickname Ogumo and say “I like to fu-k my mother” Than everyone should accept the fact that you like to fu-k your mother? Off course not my friend.

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I don't know him and do not want to.
anyone.
I never request you to know him.

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I also did not insult

Yes, you are insulting him.

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Respond with what you want to huaren. This is a old thread. I dont care what you do here.

And I never want you to care about what I do here.
Ogumo
[quote=huaren,Jun 10 2004, 03:28 PM] [quote]I wasnt insulting him. I was simply saying that perhaps he would like do indulge in his hobby instead of insulting japanese people.[/quote]
He didn’t insulted any Japanese people. Does he say something like “Japanese sucks” No, he was only defending himself.

[quote]There is nothing not to believe. I can't believe that you have not been banned from this place for good.
[/quote]
I always follow the forum rules, and why should I be banned? They are other member who are even worst, they made claim like “XXX races are stupid and ugly etc” and they are the one should be banned. Just because you don’t like me, so that’s why you always hope that I will be banned.

[quote]The below quote.
[/quote]
From that post, we already know that he may be just kidding. This is online, every people can simply talk whatever he or she want. I can just register a new account at other forum with the nickname Ogumo and say “I like to fu-k my mother” Than everyone should accept the fact that you like to fu-k your mother? Off course not my friend.

[quote]I don't know him and do not want to. [/quote]anyone.
I never request you to know him.

[quote]I also did not insult [/quote]
Yes, you are insulting him.

[quote]Respond with what you want to huaren. This is a old thread. I dont care what you do here. [/quote]
And I never want you to care about what I do here. [/quote]
[quote]He didn’t insulted any Japanese people. Does he say something like “Japanese sucks” No, he was only defending himself.[/quote]

Incorrect. His insensitive and OFFENSIVE use of the blatantly racist word j@p. If he said japan sucks. I would not have given a damn. Unfortunately he was not "defending" himself he was verbally attacking the japanese people.

[quote] I always follow the forum rules, and why should I be banned? They are other member who are even worst, they made claim like “XXX races are stupid and ugly etc” and they are the one should be banned. Just because you don’t like me, so that’s why you always hope that I will be banned.[/quote]

I wont even start.

[quote]From that post, we already know that he may be just kidding. This is online, every people can simply talk whatever he or she want. I can just register a new account at other forum with the nickname Ogumo and say “I like to fu-k my mother” Than everyone should accept the fact that you like to fu-k your mother? Off course not my friend.[/quote]

There is not evidence to suggest that he was "kidding". By the way you can make all the "ogumo" screen names you want. I encourage you. beerchug.gif


[quote]Yes, you are insulting him.[/quote]

Incorrect. You have no proof to support your outrageous claim.
huaren
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Incorrect. His insensitive and OFFENSIVE use of the blatantly racist word j@p. If he said japan sucks. I would not have given a damn. Unfortunately he was not "defending" himself he was verbally attacking the japanese people.

Oh, you know what go and check other post in this forum, the word j@p is used widely. Since it is an offensive word why don’t you take action and point them out instead of IORI?

Moreover, some people may not know j@p is an offensive word.

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I wont even start.

Good, you save my time.

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There is not evidence to suggest that he was "kidding". 

And there is no evidence to suggest that he is “not kidding”.

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By the way you can make all the "ogumo" screen names you want. I encourage you.

I never say I want to create your Ogumo nickname and post everywhere in other forum. It don’t even worth my time to do such unproductive activity. I only take that as an example.

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Incorrect. You have no proof to support your outrageous claim.

If I say you like to fu-k your mother with no evidence, is that offensive?
Ogumo
QUOTE (huaren @ Jun 10 2004, 03:43 PM)
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Incorrect. His insensitive and OFFENSIVE use of the blatantly racist word j@p. If he said japan sucks. I would not have given a damn. Unfortunately he was not "defending" himself he was verbally attacking the japanese people.

Oh, you know what go and check other post in this forum, the word j@p is used widely. Since it is an offensive word why don’t you take action and point them out instead of IORI?

Moreover, some people may not know j@p is an offensive word.

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I wont even start.

Good, you save my time.

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There is not evidence to suggest that he was "kidding".  

And there is no evidence to suggest that he is “not kidding”.

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By the way you can make all the "ogumo" screen names you want. I encourage you.

I never say I want to create your Ogumo nickname and post everywhere in other forum. It don’t even worth my time to do such unproductive activity. I only take that as an example.

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Incorrect. You have no proof to support your outrageous claim.

If I say you like to fu-k your mother with no evidence, is that offensive?

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Oh, you know what go and check other post in this forum, the word j@p is used widely. Since it is an offensive word why don’t you take action and point them out instead of IORI?

Moreover, some people may not know j@p is an offensive word.


I see you are really going to fu-king argue with me over this. Fine. I Iori already made it clear that he was using the word to be offensive. He made the clear disctinction of the normal word "japanese" and the racial slur "j@p". I told him use of racial slurs was not needed and he simply did not give a damn. Now I do not give a damn about what he finds offensive.

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And there is no evidence to suggest that he is “not kidding”.


True. However since there is no evidence to support that he was joking I will take it seriously by default. That is the normal response.

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If I say you like to fu-k your mother with no evidence, is that offensive?


What the fu-k are you talking about? Did I ever make a thread claiming something as ridiculous as that? No. Iori on the other hand did make a ridiculous thread. He never mentioned "joking" or anything like that. He has no right to take it in a offensive way because it was him that provided us with this information.
huaren
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I see you are really going to fu-king argue with me over this. Fine. I Iori already made it clear that he was using the word to be offensive. He made the clear disctinction of the normal word "japanese" and the racial slur "j@p". I told him use of racial slurs was not needed and he simply did not give a damn. Now I do not give a damn about what he finds offensive.


He did not say that he will continue to use the word “j@p” even thought it is offensive. He may have not know that the word “j@p” is offensive. Comparing to Japanese, when you type j@p may have save you a lot of time in typing.

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True. However since there is no evidence to support that he was joking I will take it seriously by default. That is the normal response.

So if I made a post and stated that all Japanese are sucks, than everyone should accept take it seriously that all Japanese are sucks? Got the logic Mr Ogumo?

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What the fu-k are you talking about? Did I ever make a thread claiming something as ridiculous as that? No. Iori on the other hand did make a ridiculous thread. He never mentioned "joking" or anything like that. He has no right to take it in a offensive way because it was him that provided us with this information.


Yes,

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^Why don't you just spy on some women in the shower? I mean that is what you like...


This look offensive to me. And you have no evidence to proof that he like to spy on women in shower. You just hate him for no reason and made such claim.

And please watch your language, it seems fu-k is your favorite word to use. icon_rolleyes.gif
Ogumo
[quote=huaren,Jun 10 2004, 03:57 PM] [quote]I see you are really going to fu-king argue with me over this. Fine. I Iori already made it clear that he was using the word to be offensive. He made the clear disctinction of the normal word "japanese" and the racial slur "j@p". I told him use of racial slurs was not needed and he simply did not give a damn. Now I do not give a damn about what he finds offensive.[/quote]

He did not say that he will continue to use the word “j@p” even thought it is offensive. He may have not know that the word “j@p” is offensive. Comparing to Japanese, when you type j@p may have save you a lot of time in typing.

[quote]True. However since there is no evidence to support that he was joking I will take it seriously by default. That is the normal response.[/quote]
So if I made a post and stated that all Japanese are sucks, than everyone should accept take it seriously that all Japanese are sucks? Got the logic Mr Ogumo?

[quote]What the fu-k are you talking about? Did I ever make a thread claiming something as ridiculous as that? No. Iori on the other hand did make a ridiculous thread. He never mentioned "joking" or anything like that. He has no right to take it in a offensive way because it was him that provided us with this information.[/quote]

Yes,

[quote]^Why don't you just spy on some women in the shower? I mean that is what you like...[/quote]

This look offensive to me. And you have no evidence to proof that he like to spy on women in shower. You just hate him for no reason and made such claim.

And please watch your language, it seems fu-k is your favorite word to use. icon_rolleyes.gif [/quote]
[quote]He did not say that he will continue to use the word “j@p” even thought it is offensive.[/quote]

He never said that he would continue. He simply did not care.

[quote]He may have not know that the word “j@p” is offensive. [/quote]

He knew. If he did not he would not have made the distinction.

[quote]Comparing to Japanese, when you type j@p may have save you a lot of time in typing.[/quote]

Ch!nk would also be alot faster than righting chinese. It really doesn not matter if it saves time or not. It is offensive. The full words should be used or "Jpn". No exceptions. icon_rolleyes.gif

[quote]So if I made a post and stated that all Japanese are sucks, than everyone should accept take it seriously that all Japanese are sucks? Got the logic Mr Ogumo?[/quote]

They can take it seriously if they want. Remember that is your opinion and you are allowed to put it out there.


[quote]This look offensive to me.[/quote]

Huaren you are the last person to talk about being offensive. sure.gif

[quote]And you have no evidence to proof that he like to spy on women in shower.[/quote]

It came from his own mouth that he likes to watch videos of women in the shower. What more proof do I need? That will be enough to satisfy most people in the world.

[quote]You just hate him for no reason and made such claim.[/quote]

I hate many things but not him. Also if I did his non caring attitude about the word j@p would be reason enough.


[quote]And please watch your language, it seems fu-k is your favorite word to use. [/quote]

fu-k you. I will say what I wish. You have no power over me. I dont know what you think this is.

By the way I am finished with this. You can believe what you want. I really dont care. However I will continue to say what ever the hell I want to say about Iori and his perverse fetish.
huaren
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It came from his own mouth that he likes to watch videos of women in the shower. What more proof do I need? That will be enough to satisfy most people in the world.

Read my above post again, there are no evidence at all to proof that he like to watch such videos.

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fu-k you. I will say what I wish. Go to hell. You have no power over me. I dont know what you think this is.

If that’s the case, than IORI have the freedom to say what ever he want. He can use the word j@p all over the forum he want. And you shut the fu-k up! And this solve everything.
barkerintokyo
It's funny how even IORI doesn't argue here anymore. This is just a plain stupid argument.

Both of you are right to a certain extent. I think Ogumo did say that shower comment to be offensive but he has a good reason to be mad. It was obvious that IORI called him a "j@p" because he knew it was a racial slur.

Oh and that insult about the "shower" was pretty funny since IORI did say things that imply that he likes $hit like that.
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