Study languages I love studying languages
my favorite is austronesian languages because austronesian languages repeats word
like
lima-lima
and nice words
kapatid(patid=half)=brother
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i also like studying languages
i study: Japanese,Korean, and Spanish ^_^
i'll join your clan
i study: Japanese,Korean, and Spanish ^_^
i'll join your clan
I know Han Mandarin pretty well, I'm also studying Manchu/Jurchen and Mongol
but i'm not joining your clan.
but i'm not joining your clan.
QUOTE (直隸總督 @ May 30 2004, 07:04 PM)
I know Han Mandarin pretty well, I'm also studying Manchu/Jurchen and Mongol
but i'm not joining your clan.
but i'm not joining your clan.
mongol and jurchen are Nostratic Languages
i like language i want to join too
hummm very intresting clan
hummm i might join
hummm i might join
English and Spanish are similar
Animal-Animales
Spouse-Sposo/Sposa
Animal-Animales
Spouse-Sposo/Sposa
QUOTE (Shakti @ Jun 1 2004, 04:39 AM)
English and Spanish are similar
Animal-Animales
Spouse-Sposo/Sposa
Animal-Animales
Spouse-Sposo/Sposa
aww bishojou, i don't think many ppl like to join your club.... they like the topic but not you.
how do you say fraud, fake, phony in spanish bishojou?
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 1 2004, 04:44 AM)
QUOTE (Shakti @ Jun 1 2004, 04:39 AM)
English and Spanish are similar
Animal-Animales
Spouse-Sposo/Sposa
Animal-Animales
Spouse-Sposo/Sposa
aww bishojou, i don't think many ppl like to join your club.... they like the topic but not you.
how do you say fraud, fake, phony in spanish bishojou?
stop posting off topic
back to the topic enough of that!!!!
However the term patay
caucasian-Farang(thai)-Palangi(polynesian)
eye-taa(thai)-mataI(tagalog)
MY
EYE *mapLa(AT) maTa(AN) []pra(KD) maay<maat(MY)
KILL *[pa]play(AT) paTay(AN) --(KD) tay<[p]tay(MY)
DIE *[ma]play(AT) maTay(AN) []pla(a)y(KD) day<tay(MY)
(where: AT=Austro-Thai, AN=Proto-Austronesian, KD=Kadai, and MY=Miao-Yao
my favorite linguists are
Ekki Lu
Johanna Nichols
This sounds cool to me.
I speak English.
In school I learned Espanol.(My keyboard didn't spell that right.)
When I got hurt I used my ample free time to learn Nihongo.
I hope to learn more.
I speak English.
In school I learned Espanol.(My keyboard didn't spell that right.)
When I got hurt I used my ample free time to learn Nihongo.
I hope to learn more.
Let's Discuss about Mon-Khmer people
So is this a clan?
i'll join. I want to learn Korean so i can understand what Boa is singing!
i'll join. I want to learn Korean so i can understand what Boa is singing!
I study languages and plan to make a career out of it.
Can I join the clan?
Can I join the clan?
Actually,you all can join
but i love about the relationship of austronesian with tai-kadai i even have a diagram about it
but i love about the relationship of austronesian with tai-kadai i even have a diagram about it
Would like to join. Want to learn Mandarin and possibly Cantoneese(bah cant even spell it). Am interested in other languages too
Members
black-a-nese
Ken_N238
Risu Nomiko
Cuong
ranmatatsumaru
Jasel
cunninglinguist
Himitsu
black-a-nese
Ken_N238
Risu Nomiko
Cuong
ranmatatsumaru
Jasel
cunninglinguist
Himitsu
Anyone know any good Mandarin software for beginners? I mean as in knowing absolutely nothing. I want to start working on it now.
Here is basic classifications of various language types of the World which you should understand the grasp of beforehand:
& Heere you go Bishojou and friends! This is a site with a Cornicoupia of knowledge on lingustics, the Hub for lingustic studies on the internet with links and blah blah blah!!!
Enjoy!
http://www.ship.edu/%7Ecgboeree/languages.html
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Basic Language Structures
There are a number of ways we describe languages. The first one classifies them according to their basic grammatical structures:
Isolating languages (aka analytic) -- ones that use invariable words, but have strict rules of word order to keep the grammatical meanings of things clear.
Included are Chinese, Indonesian, Pidgins and Creoles.
English is inflexional (see below), but has been moving towards being isolating.
Isolating languages are easy for adults to learn, but not as easy for children.
Agglutinating languages -- ones that add very regular prefixes and suffixes to express nuances
Included are Finnish, Turkish, Japanese, Tamil, etc.
These languages are very explicit and logical, and easy for children to learn.
Inflexional languages (aka fusional) -- languages that vary words to express nuances of meaning
Included are Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic languages.
Declensions -- variations on nouns (e.g. man, men, man’s, men’s).
Conjugations -- variations on verbs (e.g. sing, sang, sung).
Inflexional languages can be difficult to learn, because they usually involve many irregularities.
Amalgamating languages (aka polysynthetic) -- a much smaller group of languages that tend towards complex words that carry a sentence-worth of information.
Included are Basque, many Amerindian languages, and Klingon.
These languages are usually very difficult to learn, unless you are brought up with them. The Basques joke that they are immune to the Devil because he couldn't learn their language!
A second way of classifying languages is based on the word order they use:
SVO languages -- languages with subject-verb-object word order, as in English.
Adjectives usually follow nouns, as in French (English, of course, doesn't follow this rule).
Prepositions preferred over postpositions (I go to school).
Isolating languages tend to be strongly SVO.
SOV languages -- languages with subject-object-verb word order, as in Japanese.
Adjective usually precede nouns, as in English.
Postpositions preferred over prepositions (I school to go).
Agglutinating languages tend to be SOV.
VSO languages -- a small group of languages with verb-subject-object word order, as in Irish.
Other arrangements exist, but are much rarer. Strongly inflexional languages (like Latin or Russian) often permit varied word order.
http://www.ship.edu/%7Ecgboeree/basiclangstruct.html
There are a number of ways we describe languages. The first one classifies them according to their basic grammatical structures:
Isolating languages (aka analytic) -- ones that use invariable words, but have strict rules of word order to keep the grammatical meanings of things clear.
Included are Chinese, Indonesian, Pidgins and Creoles.
English is inflexional (see below), but has been moving towards being isolating.
Isolating languages are easy for adults to learn, but not as easy for children.
Agglutinating languages -- ones that add very regular prefixes and suffixes to express nuances
Included are Finnish, Turkish, Japanese, Tamil, etc.
These languages are very explicit and logical, and easy for children to learn.
Inflexional languages (aka fusional) -- languages that vary words to express nuances of meaning
Included are Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic languages.
Declensions -- variations on nouns (e.g. man, men, man’s, men’s).
Conjugations -- variations on verbs (e.g. sing, sang, sung).
Inflexional languages can be difficult to learn, because they usually involve many irregularities.
Amalgamating languages (aka polysynthetic) -- a much smaller group of languages that tend towards complex words that carry a sentence-worth of information.
Included are Basque, many Amerindian languages, and Klingon.
These languages are usually very difficult to learn, unless you are brought up with them. The Basques joke that they are immune to the Devil because he couldn't learn their language!
A second way of classifying languages is based on the word order they use:
SVO languages -- languages with subject-verb-object word order, as in English.
Adjectives usually follow nouns, as in French (English, of course, doesn't follow this rule).
Prepositions preferred over postpositions (I go to school).
Isolating languages tend to be strongly SVO.
SOV languages -- languages with subject-object-verb word order, as in Japanese.
Adjective usually precede nouns, as in English.
Postpositions preferred over prepositions (I school to go).
Agglutinating languages tend to be SOV.
VSO languages -- a small group of languages with verb-subject-object word order, as in Irish.
Other arrangements exist, but are much rarer. Strongly inflexional languages (like Latin or Russian) often permit varied word order.
http://www.ship.edu/%7Ecgboeree/basiclangstruct.html
& Heere you go Bishojou and friends! This is a site with a Cornicoupia of knowledge on lingustics, the Hub for lingustic studies on the internet with links and blah blah blah!!!
Enjoy!
http://www.ship.edu/%7Ecgboeree/languages.html
I study Japanese and am Spanish and some Spanish and Japanese words are the same, so I'd like to join.
LLLLLLLLLLEEETS SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chinese (Mandarin), Japanese (Tokyo Dialect), French (Parisian), German (Official), Italian (Roman), Dutch (Arnhem Dialect), English (duh), Turkish (Byzantise Dialect but only speaking), Russian, Greek.
I quit spanish early, but I understand it well.
How do I know so many?
When I was in 5th grade (around that range), I had a very VERY strong will to become an Embassador or someone who works in the UN. And my dad was joking and said I needed to learn a lot of languages. being the dumb @$$ I was, I took him seriously and I learned most of the most popular languages.
Bout HS time, I wanted to be a doctor. but my mom wouldn't let me quit learning all these languages. So I continued. In my school I know some kids who know twice as many languages as I do.
Hello How Are you? (English)
こんにちは。 御元気ですか? (Japanese)
你好。 你好吗？(Chinese)
Hello. Hoe bent u? (Dutch)
Bonjour. Comment allez-vous ? (French)
Hallo. Wie geht es Ihnen? (German)
Γειάσου. Πώς είστε; (Greek) <-Maybe spelling mistake there
Ciao. Come siete? (Italian)
Здравствулте!. Как вы? (Russian)
Hola. ¿Cómo es usted? (Hope I said that one right)
Chinese (Mandarin), Japanese (Tokyo Dialect), French (Parisian), German (Official), Italian (Roman), Dutch (Arnhem Dialect), English (duh), Turkish (Byzantise Dialect but only speaking), Russian, Greek.
I quit spanish early, but I understand it well.
How do I know so many?
When I was in 5th grade (around that range), I had a very VERY strong will to become an Embassador or someone who works in the UN. And my dad was joking and said I needed to learn a lot of languages. being the dumb @$$ I was, I took him seriously and I learned most of the most popular languages.
Bout HS time, I wanted to be a doctor. but my mom wouldn't let me quit learning all these languages. So I continued. In my school I know some kids who know twice as many languages as I do.
Hello How Are you? (English)
こんにちは。 御元気ですか? (Japanese)
你好。 你好吗？(Chinese)
Hello. Hoe bent u? (Dutch)
Bonjour. Comment allez-vous ? (French)
Hallo. Wie geht es Ihnen? (German)
Γειάσου. Πώς είστε; (Greek) <-Maybe spelling mistake there
Ciao. Come siete? (Italian)
Здравствулте!. Как вы? (Russian)
Hola. ¿Cómo es usted? (Hope I said that one right)
QUOTE (AtlantisStar @ Jun 26 2004, 11:39 PM)
Hola. ¿Cómo es usted? (Hope I said that one right)
Man one day I hope I know as many languages as you lol but I doubt I ever will. But not going to give up though.
Hola. ?Como esta?
Spanish is so much like Portuguese it's almost like they are dialects of the same language.
¡Hola! ¿Cómo está? = Olá! Como está?
¡Hola! ¿Cómo está? = Olá! Como está?
grr how do u type different languages on the comp? I was foolin around with control panel but didnt want to screw things up 
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Try typing it in Microsoft Word then copying it and pasting it
Try typing it in Microsoft Word then copying it and pasting it
QUOTE (Cuong @ Jun 13 2004, 08:15 AM)
So is this a clan?
i'll join. I want to learn Korean so i can understand what Boa is singing!
i'll join. I want to learn Korean so i can understand what Boa is singing!
BoA sings more in japanese actually. she has less albums in korean.
Anyway i'm studying spanish and japanese. I currently know cantonese, english, french and a bit of mandarin.
Now what is easier Japanese(not sure the dialects, they got like 2 right) or Mandarin? cuz I know they're both supposedly hard with pronounciation if ur not used to talking like that(which im not lol) but I keep hearing diff things.
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That depends on the person. For some people, Japanese is easier because they struggle with tones that Mandarin has whereas Japanese is nontonal.
Others will say Japanese is harder because each character can have 3 or more readings to memorize whereas Mandarin generally has no more than 2 readings for a given hànzì.
example:
天
Japanese- read as ten (On reading); ame, ama (Kun readings); aki, amo, ta, takashi, te, nama (Nanori readings)
Mandarin- read as tiān
The character means "sky" or "heaven" and by extension can even mean "god" or "celestial".
To me, Japanese is harder than Mandarin.
That depends on the person. For some people, Japanese is easier because they struggle with tones that Mandarin has whereas Japanese is nontonal.
Others will say Japanese is harder because each character can have 3 or more readings to memorize whereas Mandarin generally has no more than 2 readings for a given hànzì.
example:
天
Japanese- read as ten (On reading); ame, ama (Kun readings); aki, amo, ta, takashi, te, nama (Nanori readings)
Mandarin- read as tiān
The character means "sky" or "heaven" and by extension can even mean "god" or "celestial".
To me, Japanese is harder than Mandarin.
Mandarin looks sooo confusing!
I find Japanese easier.
I find Japanese easier.
Anyone tell me the difference between por and para in Spanish? THey both mean "for" but I dont know which one you use in which case.
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Although I'm not fluent in Spanish, Portuguese happens to have para and por as well as Spanish. I'm more or less fluent in Portuguese so I'll try to help you out.
Por is used to indicate:
1.) Motion "through," "around," "along," "by"
Eu camino por a avenida. (I walk along the avenue)
2.) Cause or motive of an action ("because of," "on account of,")
Chegamos tarde por a chuva. (We arrived late because of the rain.)
3.) Agency, means, manner, unit of measure ("by," "for," "per")
Sempre viajamos por tren. (We always travel by train.)
4.) "In exchange for"
Te dou dez dólares por êste livro. (I'll give you 10 dollars for this book.)
5.) Period of time during which something takes place ("during," "in," "for")
Lo veo amanhã por a tarde. (I'll see him tomorrow in the afternoon.)
6.) "In search of," "for"
João foi por o doutor. (João went in search of the doctor.)
Para is used to indicate:
1.) Destination in space
Quero uma pasagem para Brasíl. (I want a ticket for Brazil.)
2.) Direction in time, often meaning "by" or "for" (a certain date in the future)
Quero uma pasagem para sábado. (I want a ticket for Saturday.)
3.) Direction toward a recipient
Comprei um tapête para meu quarto. (I bought a rug for my room.)
4.) "In order to"
Necesito mil dólares para pagar a hipoteca. (I need 1000 dollars to pay the mortgage.)
5.) Comparison ("by the standard of," "considering")
O menino é mui alto para sua idade. (The boy is very tall for his age.)
6.) Objective or goal
Estudamos para engenheiros. (We are studying to be engineers.)
I hope that helps!
Although I'm not fluent in Spanish, Portuguese happens to have para and por as well as Spanish. I'm more or less fluent in Portuguese so I'll try to help you out.
Por is used to indicate:
1.) Motion "through," "around," "along," "by"
Eu camino por a avenida. (I walk along the avenue)
2.) Cause or motive of an action ("because of," "on account of,")
Chegamos tarde por a chuva. (We arrived late because of the rain.)
3.) Agency, means, manner, unit of measure ("by," "for," "per")
Sempre viajamos por tren. (We always travel by train.)
4.) "In exchange for"
Te dou dez dólares por êste livro. (I'll give you 10 dollars for this book.)
5.) Period of time during which something takes place ("during," "in," "for")
Lo veo amanhã por a tarde. (I'll see him tomorrow in the afternoon.)
6.) "In search of," "for"
João foi por o doutor. (João went in search of the doctor.)
Para is used to indicate:
1.) Destination in space
Quero uma pasagem para Brasíl. (I want a ticket for Brazil.)
2.) Direction in time, often meaning "by" or "for" (a certain date in the future)
Quero uma pasagem para sábado. (I want a ticket for Saturday.)
3.) Direction toward a recipient
Comprei um tapête para meu quarto. (I bought a rug for my room.)
4.) "In order to"
Necesito mil dólares para pagar a hipoteca. (I need 1000 dollars to pay the mortgage.)
5.) Comparison ("by the standard of," "considering")
O menino é mui alto para sua idade. (The boy is very tall for his age.)
6.) Objective or goal
Estudamos para engenheiros. (We are studying to be engineers.)
I hope that helps!
ya that helped alot. wow there are alot of similarities. thanks
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Glad I could help you out
Glad I could help you out
A general question. How do you pick up understanding the language being spoken? I can speak Spanish decently and read and write it but I try practicing listening to it by watching it on tv and i can only pick up a term here or there 
Anyone have any tips on waht they do to get an ear for the language?
Anyone have any tips on waht they do to get an ear for the language?
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Try using the language whenever possible.
Try to meet Spanish speaking people and talk to them in Spanish.
The ultimate goal is to think in the language. Try not to think of your phrase in English (or whatever your native language is) and then translate it to Spanish but instead think of the phrase in Spanish.
Try using the language whenever possible.
Try to meet Spanish speaking people and talk to them in Spanish.
The ultimate goal is to think in the language. Try not to think of your phrase in English (or whatever your native language is) and then translate it to Spanish but instead think of the phrase in Spanish.
QUOTE (ranmatatsumaru @ Jun 30 2004, 12:17 AM)
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Try using the language whenever possible.
Try to meet Spanish speaking people and talk to them in Spanish.
The ultimate goal is to think in the language. Try not to think of your phrase in English (or whatever your native language is) and then translate it to Spanish but instead think of the phrase in Spanish.
Try using the language whenever possible.
Try to meet Spanish speaking people and talk to them in Spanish.
The ultimate goal is to think in the language. Try not to think of your phrase in English (or whatever your native language is) and then translate it to Spanish but instead think of the phrase in Spanish.
Exactly what my language teachers say and exactly what I do.
I should really learn some Korean. 여보세요. 안녕하세요?
^
I'm studying Korean.
별고 없으십니까?
I'm studying Korean.
별고 없으십니까?
It's not a direct celebration??
^
Did you misread it or something? It means "how are you."
Did you misread it or something? It means "how are you."
QUOTE (ranmatatsumaru @ Jul 1 2004, 04:03 AM)
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I'm studying Korean.
별고 없으심니까?
I'm studying Korean.
별고 없으심니까?
Babelfish output: "There is not an untoward event and ni it peels,"
lol!
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What the hell is Babelfish? Some online translator or something?
That is hilarious!
What the hell is Babelfish? Some online translator or something?
That is hilarious!
QUOTE (ranmatatsumaru @ Jul 1 2004, 04:40 AM)
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What the hell is Babelfish? Some online translator or something?
That is hilarious!
What the hell is Babelfish? Some online translator or something?
That is hilarious!
Yup, it is.
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
Try to translate some Korean phrases to English. It's hilarious.
^
I tried Babelfish and it is hilarious!
Where do they come up with that stuff?
Especially when you try Korean to English back to Korean!
I tried Babelfish and it is hilarious!
Where do they come up with that stuff?
Especially when you try Korean to English back to Korean!
You think its ok to study more than 1 language at a time? Like 2?
^
of course it's okay!
currently I'm studying 7 languages
of course it's okay!
currently I'm studying 7 languages
wow maybe I should step up a bit then. I've always planned on learning at least 10 or so. Maybe Spanish, French, and Mandarin would be ok for now then. Its not like I dont have the time to work on them.
oh my gosh I was planning on learning 10 too but now I want to learn 11 or 12 I study 8 at a time right now.
but for me it's about culture too epecialy the two native languages i'm studying now.
but for me it's about culture too epecialy the two native languages i'm studying now.
QUOTE (running horse @ Jul 7 2004, 07:04 PM)
but for me it's about culture too epecialy the two native languages i'm studying now.
what do you mean by "native languages"?
Native American or American Indian Cherokee, and Lakoda(spelling i think)
I cant spell the words yet unless I look at my flash cards.
the reason I'm part Cherokee and the Lakoda culture is soooooo cool the first word I learned in lakoda was tatanka(spelling) this is buffalo
by the end of the year I will know 500 words in Cherokee and Lakoda but now ha ha ha oh please those two are the languages I know the least of, it's a shame I know.
I cant spell the words yet unless I look at my flash cards.
the reason I'm part Cherokee and the Lakoda culture is soooooo cool the first word I learned in lakoda was tatanka(spelling) this is buffalo
by the end of the year I will know 500 words in Cherokee and Lakoda but now ha ha ha oh please those two are the languages I know the least of, it's a shame I know.
So how often do you guys study and how long?
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I study a different language each day of the week for about half an hour
I study a different language each day of the week for about half an hour
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