what if khmer and thai are united? what do you think of that? whose benefit the most? can it be done?

Do you mean united as one country or united in friendship?

oh sorry didn't read full heading, my bad

Thai and Khmer are similar in many aspects, one being that we are both Buddhist countries, so religion woudn't be a problem. Also the culture is similar.

But there are also many problems to face such as:

Language - there would be more people speaking Thai then Khmer, and what will be the official language.

Capitol City - Bangkok or Pnom Phenh, without a doubt Pnom Phenh would have to be relinquished, as Bangkok is more posperous.

Acceptence - In history there has been a lot of bad blood between Thais and Khmers.

Also isn't Hun Sen controlled by Vietnam. So It is very unlikely Vietnam will give it up so easily. It wouldnt happen if Hun Sen is still in power.


In conclusion, I think it is IMPOSSIBLE to the two countries to united is there are too many problems to faces and Thailand would unlikely benefit from the unification, so I am pretty sure Thailand would not agree.

I'm against such a treaty b/c there are too many Thais than Khmers and eventually we (Khmers) will all be siamized and dominated by the Thais like the Manchurians in China. They all got assimulated and become Chinese. Soon we will all forget our rich history and culture. Plus, like the previous poster said there are too many bad bloods between us and them.

I think best country in SE Asia to be united with is Laos. The popululation between the two countries is about the same size. So, no one will dominate the other, and we have a very similar culture with Laos as we have with Thailand.

If Thailand and Cambodia united together. The name would have to be

A) Thaibodia?
b) CamboThai?
c)kampooThai?
d)Thaipoochea?
e)siemkhmer?
f)khmersiem?
g) kampoosiem?

It would be nice if khmer and Siam really becoming a melting pot and have respect for each others. We share exact same culture. It is not difficult for khmer to learn thai. Because thai vocabulary and writing borrowed alot from khmer.


Peace to Thailand and Cambodia

I forgot our lovely people of Lao.

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No!

that would be nice.............

That's a very real possibility, holamon.

It would be nice if Khmers and Thais become a solidarity!!! Why we don't just forget about the old history between Khmers and Thais in the past!!! Because we are so similar people, language, and exactely believe good and sin indeed. Also our belief is a religion!!! We are involving altogether then we battle the corruptive VC regime. After we liberate the KhmerLand then we establish some business as Khmers and Thais...By that time, i hope us Khmers and Thais have a great relationships morever!!!!! The Thais are much more better than Viet Cong (VC)!!!

Bravo!! and Bravo!! Khmers UNITED Thais are in one!!!!!!!!!

RockHeart,


:genius:

If that is happen, pretty soon there will be only "siamese" not Khmer. Notice, they already got Khmer Isaan, and do we want to be another Khmer Isaan? No...if we were to forget what happen in the past, then military alliance is possible. However, too many thing happen in the past, Thai need to do something about what happen in the past before Cambodia can be their alliance.

Yeah... people who think it's a good idea need to get their heads out of their asses and do a little thinking...sorry if I am a little harsh. But why would any Khmers want to become a minority within their own country is beyond me.

Do you know that there are about 80 million Thais and only about 18 million Khmers at most? Now Try to imagine this new Indo-Thaina country where many of these Thais will migrate to Cambodia. Who do you think will be the minority? Us Khmers. Once you become a minority, you'll be discriminated. Our brothers and sisters (Khmer Surins/Issan) currently living in Thailand are already being discriminated. Many of them could only find jobs such house maids, etc. They are pretty much the Mexicans of Thailand...doing mainly crappy jobs. Now, do you really want to join them and become the Mexican of Thailand?

After a fews hundred years you can kiss your Khmer pride good-bye because there ain't nothing left for you to be proud of....everything will be siamized. Many of the new Khmer generations will most likely be ignorant about their heritage. Lol...imagine Angkor Watt becomes Angkor Watt Thai like Muay Thai (Khmer free style boxing).

Do you know how much blood our ancestors had spilled to keep Cambodia from being taken over by the Thais? Now, you would like to peacefully hand over Cambodia to the Thais? I am sure the Thais would gladly accept it.

Anyway, I have no problems with Cambodia having trade and join security agreements with the Thais to fight terrorists, etc.

In this situation, we have to rely on Thais millitaries and its power. in order to increase our resistances, and full of equipment of weapons, we are become a stronger enough batter to battle the crime. Then we will be liberation our beloved country more easier way...Because right now we, Khmers are sort some points...Don't you all think that way????

RockHeart,


:genius:

Rockheart read the poster question. Cambodia and Thailand united as one country not a military alliance. Cambodia becomes a territory of Thailand. Do you want that my friend? I know some Khmers think we and Thais are related, but we're not. The only thing we have in common with the Thais is similar culture such as religion, etc.

Yeah! Of course i understood all about....But i just want to say in this circumstance, we don't have enough resistances and we sort all kind of weapons to battle the invaders oppression in our country. It would be better to ally some neighbors as a brother Thais for help a hand liberation our country, then!!! Because we, Khmers have no neighbors are closer with us, how can we defeat the enemies by ourselves...???

RockHeart,

oh $hit, my bad. it says united as one country. that is impossible and khmers should never agree on this. holamon is right, thailand would more than willing to accept a treaty like this. they know they have the upper hand. what khmer need is unity amongst our own people and build cambodia to become stronger.

How about the Thai's take the time to learn Khmer language as often as most Khmer do to learn theirs. Make sense?

I like bâ-ee dawmna-uhp -

Is that going to turn something into Tagalog like the Phillipine? Instead of Sawadi-kup, and sousadey, join them together? Sousadey-kup?

It is impossible for Thai & Cambodia to unite. Maybe as Friendship but not as one country. That is a total lost to Cambodian people. That is what you called an "Absorbtion" or "Elimination" law.

Ahhh these were main culprits that we lost so much land to our neighbors. The khmer kings used foreign military power to settle internal disputes mainly fighting for the throne. We paid dearly with our land every time they "helped" us...Like the Khmer saying goes: Hot tek somleung kark. No more "help" from these neighbors!

Right now, what we really need right now is unity. United We Stand!

United We Stand indeed!! Divided and be Conquer!!

Hey brothers!!! United for what!!!! If we all just talk without ACT!!! Do youthink the enemies return the land back to us without battle???? So?? Bringing the massive bombs to invastate them all....The politic is a TOUGH solution!!!



RockHeart,




:genius:

I admire your fighting spirit, Rockheart. I really do.... The problem is we are not in a position to retake our lost lands back militarily! Let's be realistic here. And where do we get those massive bombs from?

When I say unite, I mean working together for the better of Cambodia! We are still in rebuilding mode from these 20+ years of warfare. Almost all the politicians in Cambodia right now are just fighting for their power and wallets. They do not have the interests of the Khmer people at the front burner. People want peace and prosperity, not war.

The concept is "a single chopstick can easily be broken, a bundle of chopsticks is hard to break".

Peace!

cambodia is one country we will be the one remain in the middle cuz we are the king of the southeast asian The Don, There isn't two country join force like thaibodian or cambothai.

Since when we are the king of SE Asia?

If you look in the history you will found out every cambo ppl know it too.

Back then yes. I thought you were saying that we are currently the king of SE Asia.

If the French hadn't intervined, Cambodia would be split between Thailand and Vietnam by now, and perhaps Laos. This is bad for the Cambodian culture, since it will be extinct. However, the Thais seem to be politer, which is a good thing for other ethnicities...

LOL Uniting with Thailand? Cambodia will simply be eaten up without having the chance to gulp for the last breath of air. And do you think Vietnam would allow that?

Hmmm wonder why Vietnam didn't annex Cambodia 200 years ago?

Nice said there Jot. I agree with you. It would be nice if the Thia/Laos/Khmer can unite together and create one state and implement a constitution which guarantee egual right to citizen, and have effective laws with orders that everybody can live by. After all the three nations does share close similarity to each other in regard to religion, culture, and the foods we eat. I hope that can happen one day.

We don't need anymore enemy and killing of people, we need more love and peace in the world.

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Love and peace as separate countries and not one that is united and dominated by the Thais.

well of course there can't be no love or peace with one race dominating the others. We just need to learn how to live with each other respectfully and peacefully in other for any unification to acheive. This goes for all the Asain Nations that is bordering one another.

This is an excellent idea I ever heard. We can unite into one country. Bangkok should be a capitol of our country. Thai language should be formal language. Khamen can use your old language in your house or in family, and Khamen can preserve your own culture as Surin people.

Khamen can move to settle everywhere like Chaingmai, Phuket or Bangkok.

Khamen can become our Prime Minster if you win a majority in parliment.
Khamen can become a Supreme Commander -in-Chief of Royal Thai Armed force if you are join the millitary. You can become everything in Thailand (Except the King, he must a descendant from Chakkri Dynastry).

We can unite with Lao too.

We can change name of our country to Federation of Siam.
May be "United Kingdom of Siam" is better.

NO. " United Kingdom of Angkor" sounds more appropraite.

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It's Okay, What ever name.? Okay.

How about a name such as Kingdom of Greater Siam.

or even better: The Empire of Siam.

I agree.

NO!!

United in friendship? Hopefully soon..

Thailand should unite with Kambuja, that's where all the root is at.

What goes around, comes around.

With Khmer at its current size and population, I don't see how the two countries can be 'united'. More like a "take over" by the Thais! It's like when a big company is acquiring another company of a smaller size and they call it a 'merge', when in actuality it's an acquisition or "take over". So, you're proposing a take over by Thailand...that's what it sounds like to me...

Your're probably right. There's smore disadvantages toward the smaller country.
Language and attitude probably keeps us apart.

cooperation doesnt have to lead to assimilating..... we can coexist as two seperate friendly countries.

Its like me and my friends, im not trying to take them over....

Yes, I agree, we should work on coexisting as two separate friendly countries as you stated. I'm all for that. But as one country, I don't see how..

we all got our own distinct culture and background. there is no point becoming 1 country. tru there MAY be good side but their definately WILL be bad sides.

2 friendly nations, is better than 1

I agree too. We can unite into one country and let the people vote which name what they want.

You see people in Surin still keep theirs culture, way of life everything they have and live in Thai Kingdom with peace and prosperous. We treat our people well.

Khmer can keep everything what they are by join with Thai Kingdom under Chakri Dynasty. I'm guarantee with my honor.

bodyslam,

Cambodia WILL NOT unite with thailand as one country. It does not matter if khmer get to decide what they want 2 call the united country of Cambodia and Thailand. We have our OWN country. Laos have thier own country. Quit wanting 2 reunite the counrties as one because we all know that Thailand will have a sneaky plan 2 control all part of the country. Try reuniting asia and stop them from discriminating against each other.

We can start from unite Cambodia and Thailand first and let people vote for the name, capital, Leader,formal language.

If we don't start from first step. Why we could have a next step.

I belive people know what's name they want.

I don't mind and accept any name from referendum.

ah..the dream of Greater Thailand..will be at seen at last..

A) Thaibodia?