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Ogumo
In Okinawa, the habitat of Dugongs, an endangered mammal, is being threatened by the planned undersea drilling survey that Japan's defense authority is planning to conduct in preparation for the construction of a U.S. military base.

The Japanese and U.S. governments are promoting the construction of the huge base in waters off the Henoko district of Nago City in Okinawa.

At an Upper House Committee on Environment meeting on April 15, Japanese Communist Party Iwasa Emi demanded that the government not allow the drilling survey to be conducted.

The Defense Facilities Administration Agency (DFAA) plans to begin digging the seabed at 63 locations within the area of the planned U.S. base.

Iwasa said that experts are warning that 20 out of these drilling points are dugongs' feeding stations and that devastating these stations would further threaten dugongs' survival.

The environment minister promised to discuss with the DFAA the surveys from the viewpoint of environmental preservation. (end)

http://www.japan-press.co.jp/2331/dugong.html
huaren
Another news from Japan-press. Ogumo, I can’t find any of the news you posted at other major news site.
Ogumo
QUOTE (huaren @ May 26 2004, 02:35 PM)
Another news from Japan-press. Ogumo, I can’t find any of the news you posted at other major news site.

Then you havent looked. Most of the links I post come from japan times,japan today and various other sites. Look for them in the japan serious chat thread. Many are several weeks old.


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In Okinawa, citizens opposing the government plan to construct a new U.S. base in the prefecture on April 10 visited the Japanese Defense Agency's Naha Regional Defense Facilities Administration Bureau and demanded a halt to the drilling survey that started at the construction area.

The drilling survey started on April 8 without any notice to the Nago City Assembly.

The government is pushing ahead with a plan to relocate the U.S. Marine Corps Futenma Air Station, now located in Ginowan City, to the sea off Henoko District in Nago City. It told the residents of Henoko that a 15-year time limit would be imposed on the use of the new base, but now both the U.S. and the Japanese governments are refusing to accept the time limit. The offshore of Henoko is known for a major coral reef and a habitat for an endangered species of dugong.

A residents' representative said, "The drilling survey will damage the environment. The survey is like 'starting a train before all passengers are on board' because the 15-year time limit on the use of the new base is being shelved." (end)

http://www.japan-press.co.jp/2330/localresident.html
AtlantisStar
Ogumo, dugongs are endangered in okinawa, but aren't in other places... They can be reintroduced you know.
Ogumo
So then they really are not a endangered animal then.
huaren
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 26 2004, 11:55 PM)
So then they really are not a endangered animal then.

The Japanese news source is a joke. They even release news about dead animals. Animals are born to be killed Ogumo, who care about who kill those animals.
Ogumo
QUOTE (huaren @ May 27 2004, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 26 2004, 11:55 PM)
So then they really are not a endangered animal then.

The Japanese news source is a joke. They even release news about dead animals. Animals are born to be killed Ogumo, who care about who kill those animals.

If the americans were off killing animals in china I am sure you would be up in arms. icon_rolleyes.gif You only care about chinese people and chinese animals. Yes I do agree animals are a lower form of life. However these animals if they are to be killed they should be killed for the benefit of the japanese people. Not uncle sam.
Siu Wai
QUOTE (huaren @ May 27 2004, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 26 2004, 11:55 PM)
So then they really are not a endangered animal then.

The Japanese news source is a joke. They even release news about dead animals. Animals are born to be killed Ogumo, who care about who kill those animals.

Buddha would care... Buddhists, I mean...

Reincarnation to repay the animal you killed...

Troublesome stories they have...

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Ogumo, you really care about Japan that much... I understand, but aren't you getting a bit carried off with the anti-U.S. stuff?
huaren
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 27 2004, 12:09 AM)
QUOTE (huaren @ May 27 2004, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 26 2004, 11:55 PM)
So then they really are not a endangered animal then.

The Japanese news source is a joke. They even release news about dead animals. Animals are born to be killed Ogumo, who care about who kill those animals.

If the americans were off killing animals in china I am sure you would be up in arms. icon_rolleyes.gif You only care about chinese people and chinese animals. Yes I do agree animals are a lower form of life. However these animals if they are to be killed they should be killed for the benefit of the japanese people. Not uncle sam.

Oh, how about Japanese soldier killing animals in other country when in WW2? They don’t even kill animals, they kill human. Do you care about it? The little animals in Japan worth nothing.
Ogumo
QUOTE (huaren @ May 27 2004, 12:14 AM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 27 2004, 12:09 AM)
QUOTE (huaren @ May 27 2004, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 26 2004, 11:55 PM)
So then they really are not a endangered animal then.

The Japanese news source is a joke. They even release news about dead animals. Animals are born to be killed Ogumo, who care about who kill those animals.

If the americans were off killing animals in china I am sure you would be up in arms. icon_rolleyes.gif You only care about chinese people and chinese animals. Yes I do agree animals are a lower form of life. However these animals if they are to be killed they should be killed for the benefit of the japanese people. Not uncle sam.

Oh, how about Japanese soldier killing animals in other country when in WW2? They don’t even kill animals, they kill human. Do you care about it? The little animals in Japan worth nothing.

Yes play the world war two card shall we? Alright. Yes japanese have killed animals. Hell japanese have killed of entire species in japan by themself within ten years. Do you see how unacceptable you found it for japan to come in and destroy the enviornment of china and kill and put chinese in direct danger? That is how I feel about the americans.

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The little animals in Japan worth nothing.


oh and by the way. fu-k you huaren. You are like a annoying bug. The fact that you are not sincere about anything unless it is involving chinese people just makes it worse. As I said you hold nothing sacred. I dont give a damn if these animals are worthless or not. The americans have no right to come in and start killing them and damaging the enviornment. Do that $hit at home.
huaren
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Yes play the world war two card shall we? Alright. Yes japanese have killed animals. Hell japanese have killed of entire species in japan by themself within ten years. Do you see how unacceptable you found it for japan to come in and destroy the enviornment of china and kill and put chinese in direct danger? That is how I feel about the americans.

Ogumo, did America kill all the animals? Did they create a killing campaign to clear all the animals? No, what are you complaining? Killing a little animal is wrong and need to be punishing to death?

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oh and by the way. fu-k you huaren. You are like a annoying bug. The fact that you are not sincere about anything unless it is involving chinese people just makes it worse. As I said you hold nothing sacred. I dont give a damn if these animals are worthless or not. The americans have no right to come in and start killing them and damaging the enviornment. Do that $hit at home.

How about Japanese killing animals in US? Do the American complaining? Don’t tell me in 100 years, there are not even a single Japanese in the US killed an "innocent" animal before.
Ogumo
"Ogumo, did America kill all the animals? Did they create a killing campaign to clear all the animals? No, what are you complaining? Killing a little animal is wrong and need to be punishing to death?"

A campaign was not needed. They are succeeding in killing them by destroying the entire enviornment. Eventually it will have the same result.

"How about Japanese killing animals in US? Do the American complaining? Don’t tell me in 100 years, there are not even a single Japanese in the US killed an "innocent" animal before."

I highly doubt that there is any case of the japanese physically destroying the enviornment of a rare species here in america.
huaren
My oh my…

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A campaign was not needed. They are succeeding in killing them by destroying the entire enviornment. Eventually it will have the same result.

If the American killing animals in Japan will destroy the environment, all major news site already release this news. I can only find these weird news at Japanese news site. Moreover, killing one animal in a week or a few days will destroy the environment is a joke. LOL!

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I highly doubt that there is any case of the japanese physically destroying the enviornment of a rare species here in america.

Think logic, If I kill a dog now, don’t tell me that tomorrow every major news company will release a news about “I killed a dog yesterday” LOL!
Ogumo
First off huaren it is not just "one animal". If you destroy the enviornment you destroy the entire group of animals. Clearly you find the americans destroying the enviornment there to be acceptable. So there is no point of me wasting my time argueing further with you here. Good day.
Jayson
I wonder how huaren would feel if the Pandas in China were being killed. sure.gif
huaren
QUOTE (Ogumo @ May 27 2004, 12:37 AM)
First off huaren it is not just "one animal". If you destroy the enviornment you destroy the entire group of animals. Clearly you find the americans destroying the enviornment there to be acceptable. So there is no point of me wasting my time argueing further with you here. Good day.

First of all, I can’t find any of this news elsewhere. Second, I can’t even find any proof to proof that the US kill the animals for fun. It is the Japanese government who approved the project and harm the endangered animals.

And you have a nice day too. LOL!
huaren
QUOTE (Jayson @ May 27 2004, 12:40 AM)
I wonder how huaren would feel if the Pandas in China were being killed. sure.gif

Jayson, you need to read the article before you voice your comment.

In Okinawa, the habitat of Dugongs, an endangered mammal, is being threatened by the planned undersea drilling survey that Japan's defense authority is planning to conduct in preparation for the construction of a U.S. military base.

In the news, it clearly stated that is Japan who approve the project. So you cant blame US for that.
huaren
And for the Panda, it is completely different. If China government who kill the Panda, than I can blame no one instead blaming the Chinese government. However, if it is foreigners who access China and illegally and kill all the Panda, than I will be angry.

Where in Japan, it is the government itself who approve such project. Whom should you blame?
Jayson
I guess you do have a good point.
AzNxCynical
Geez, you guys needa chill out. Ogumo bro, I always wonder why you're angry or at least give off that vibe from reading your posts, now I know, but I can't blame ya.

Geez, surprised to see this sorta thing going on. Whatever the case is guys, no use taking this out on one another. What Ogumo's country did is out of his hands as well as yours. Blame those responsible and in power, but not it's people. I'm sure they feel otherwise and it doesn't represent the whole population.
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