Do you consider a person who criticize France's past imperial atrocities on Vietnam as a Viet Gian?

If so Dien Bien Phu is a lost cause.

what the hell r viet gian

VNCH

Unfair: there were good people on both sides. My own family was split. We're still family, though.

^same here

During the colonial French, person who spy for the French were called "Viet Gian".

You can call them "traitors", I guess. And you can't generalize that all person who worked for the Colonial French are "traitors". Most of them using the French system to benefit Vietnam and were planning for independence. And if you're being sincere and open minded, you cannot say VNCH were "Viet Gian". They want a strong independent and democratic Vietnam as much as I and you do too.

Here's a question:

What do you call those corrupted officials who take a piece of the national budget for themselves? Those who take money from public projects and abusing their positions to further themselves and their family/friends? Are they "gian lận"? Yes, yes, and yes. So in my book, they are "Viet Gian". Basically, they are Vietnamese Cheaters.

I sure wonder what happened to Johannjs? That guy is one smart cookie. Too bad he's too pro French.

All puppets are gian, either they are French puppet or US puppet.

Nguy VNCH were created by the US to serve the US interest.

you forgot the "Nguy-est" who are serving thằng chủ phương Bắc bây giờ!!!

that is your own assumption

You like to talk about the VNCH assumptions????

No I don't.
I said that you were assuming

So I assumed that you were assuming that I had assumed about your assuming......blablabla....?????? why don't you just end this by posting some crazy optic pictures here so we have some thing to talk about?????

you called the gov right now is Nguy-est. Then who r you?

every day, you keep posting bitter messages about our country. Whenever people start posting something new, you come back with the political battle.

I will post pictures when I think that the members here are gonna enjoy that. I don't insist on posting the same thing everywhere

Can't get off the subject that fast......How come I don't see you get all b*tchy about asean's remark??????? Oh, because it fits w/ your assumption about "them", doesn't it! Grow up......need to read more before you can even start defending the Nguy-est regime right now. (Oppppppp, did I assume that you were assuming that I had assumed..........here we go again..)

Go back to posting your pictures....we all think they were cool!

from what I read from different sources, including my made-in-america history book, VNCH was obviously created to be American puppet. I did not assume that. It is a fact.
I still admit the present regime's faults. But it is not an American puppet. "Nguy" is the word for american vietnamese puppet, is it not?
There has been no valid document stating that the regime now is an american vietnamese puppet, although it is corrupted

Nguy means something faked.....the commies associated the term w/ the VNCH regime because of their association w/ the USA during the civil war for propaganda purposes. South VN was considered an independent State by America and its allies at the time, except by the Soviet block + China. It had embassies all over the Western world and other Asian nations.
Now, "Ngụy" denoted something faked, ugly, unpatriotic.......I think the behaviors of the current regime fits entirely into this concept.

BTW, your "fact" is but an assumption that anything and everything associated w/ VNCH is bad.

Maybe you are too young to understand it but I hope your teacher do remind you to read anything and everything w/ a skeptical and open mind, even made-in-America books. There are authors out there who denied the holocauste or the killing field ever happened.

Finally, the communists like to lower its enemy to the level of the animal, that way they can treat them as such, not as people who share the same Viet blood w/ them.

I do not assume that anything associated w VNCH is bad. It was my made-in-america book that said VNCH was puppet.
I did not say that all those people who worked for VNCH were bad and dumb and are all traitor.

I'm glad to hear you say that....at least that kind of thinking will open your mind to different views. About the Made-in-America books, as I said before.....read them but don't take every single words as "final words" on the subject.....I didn't leave the country until I finished highschool, had more years study under the same communist system of education than you did......I believe I know a thing or two about such a system. Peace?!

coldsunlight cãi với ông vietnam mệt lắm, ổng là hard-core rồi cãi cũng vô ích thôi, ngày xưa Xigon cũng hay cãi với ổng lắm nhưng mà cãi hoài thấy nhàm mà chả được tích sự gì hết

Cãi cũng phải có lý chứ..........

It's in our blood!

Did you mean "support" ?


Pretty nifty there Rồng Xanh! I think you may have a case.



Chúc mừng! chúc mừng!! đã tìm ra một chân lý rồi à !

Thằng cu đó dai như đĩa, you phải xài cái chiêu "mỹ nhân kế" thì mới có hậu quả hơn

Cu tèo ơi, tớ đã có em gái ở nhà rồi.......mấy em under-age trên net không làm tớ hào hứng tí nào.....cu tèo có chân lý gì khác hơn không?????