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chopramen
well iono why im doing this but i realized today that im am so proud to be viet, even tho life is short beerchug.gif . Being viet roxX. Even tho i am a halfie viet, i feel like all the viets i kno, treat me the same and as their own. I dont ever feel left out whenever im with my viet community. I found that the viets are great pple who struggle through alots, whether is a drunken dad who talk about nothing but about the vietnam war and how he felt bad about killing so many pple. Maybe even a nagging mother who complains about her life and how she could of been better not moving to a diff. country cuz pple treat her like crap here. We stick together. Even tho pple call me a racist for having viet pride, i dont care. I rather be a racist then to lose my viet side.<---iono why im a racist for having viet pride. confused.gif

VIET PRIDE FOREVER!!!!
i kno i sound a little corny but this is how i feel.
share your viet pride.
big_d!ck
I am so proud of your writing....
Happy Asian
Yes, Viet pride b!tches.
blacklight
chopramen:

"Even tho pple call me a racist for having viet pride, i dont care. I rather be a racist then to lose my viet side.<---iono why im a racist for having viet pride"

You can be proud to be Viet without being a racist. In fact, you must learn how to be proud to be Viet without being racist, if you haven't done so already. Also, learn as much about Vietnam as you can, because pride based on ignorance is not much more than bigotry.

The reality is that there are Vietnamese out there who act in disgraceful ways. If you can acknowledge and accept that there are bad Vietnamese who bring shame, and yet you yourself act in ways that do not bring shame to you, your family and your fellow Vietnamese, then you have learned how to be proud to be Vietnamese.
VietPunk
pride..... i must have left it at home today icon_confused.gif
azn_pride
got rice biartch
ddha
QUOTE(blacklight @ May 3 2006, 02:50 AM) [snapback]1813946[/snapback]

chopramen:

"Even tho pple call me a racist for having viet pride, i dont care. I rather be a racist then to lose my viet side.<---iono why im a racist for having viet pride"

You can be proud to be Viet without being a racist. In fact, you must learn how to be proud to be Viet without being racist, if you haven't done so already. Also, learn as much about Vietnam as you can, because pride based on ignorance is not much more than bigotry.

The reality is that there are Vietnamese out there who act in disgraceful ways. If you can acknowledge and accept that there are bad Vietnamese who bring shame, and yet you yourself act in ways that do not bring shame to you, your family and your fellow Vietnamese, then you have learned how to be proud to be Vietnamese.


So true! Viet pride means making our Vietnamese communities proud by doing things that would gain us recognition, respect, and praise from other communities. If you always keep this in mind with your actions than you truely have 'Viet pride'. biggthumpup.gif
LaiSteve66
QUOTE(chopramen @ May 2 2006, 09:23 PM) [snapback]1813242[/snapback]

well iono why im doing this but i realized today that im am so proud to be viet, even tho life is short beerchug.gif . Being viet roxX. Even tho i am a halfie viet, i feel like all the viets i kno, treat me the same and as their own. I dont ever feel left out whenever im with my viet community. I found that the viets are great pple who struggle through alots, whether is a drunken dad who talk about nothing but about the vietnam war and how he felt bad about killing so many pple. Maybe even a nagging mother who complains about her life and how she could of been better not moving to a diff. country cuz pple treat her like crap here. We stick together. Even tho pple call me a racist for having viet pride, i dont care. I rather be a racist then to lose my viet side.<---iono why im a racist for having viet pride. confused.gif

VIET PRIDE FOREVER!!!!
i kno i sound a little corny but this is how i feel.
share your viet pride.


What's your other half?
chopramen
QUOTE(LaiSteve66 @ May 3 2006, 01:18 PM) [snapback]1814898[/snapback]

What's your other half?


does it matter. embarassedlaugh.gif
LaiSteve66
QUOTE(chopramen @ May 3 2006, 02:03 PM) [snapback]1815059[/snapback]

does it matter. embarassedlaugh.gif


It doesn't really matter. I'm a Viet/White mix and was wondering if you were as well.
TINMAN
QUOTE(blacklight @ May 3 2006, 01:50 AM) [snapback]1813946[/snapback]


You can be proud to be Viet without being a racist. In fact, you must learn how to be proud to be Viet without being racist, if you haven't done so already. Also, learn as much about Vietnam as you can, because pride based on ignorance is not much more than bigotry.

I have met quite a few Americans, Latinos, Chinese, Korean and Viet nationals who claimed to have "pride" when in fact they are blatant racists. Only through education, parental guidance, and exposure to the international communities will one become more racially tolerant. First and foremost, pride in one's culture should begin at home, at the dinner table....unless you're parents are bigots, then you better start educating yourself to become more open-minded or face a harsh journey through life.
Fable
I have pride, I'm not racist. I mean, I'm proud when we (Vietnamese) achieve something, that say, 10 or 20 years ago, we couldn't do.
MyManD
Not sure if I have too much Viet pride. The Viets I've known since childhood have either become - drug addicts, teenage mothers, dropped out of school, are retarded, in jail, or all of the above. With people like that representing my race, it's hard to be proud being one. I can actually say that beyond my immediate family (and those in Vietnam I met when I went last year), I have not bothered to hang out with another Viet in over 2 years. Now the Chinese and Arabs, those guys know how to have a good time, while not being terrible human beings in the process.

Just my two cents.
landsknechts
QUOTE(MyManD @ May 3 2006, 09:08 PM) [snapback]1816691[/snapback]

Not sure if I have too much Viet pride. The Viets I've known since childhood have either become - drug addicts, teenage mothers, dropped out of school, are retarded, in jail, or all of the above. With people like that representing my race, it's hard to be proud being one. I can actually say that beyond my immediate family (and those in Vietnam I met when I went last year), I have not bothered to hang out with another Viet in over 2 years. Now the Chinese and Arabs, those guys know how to have a good time, while not being terrible human beings in the process.

Just my two cents.

You shouldn't look at things in life in a pessimistic/negative way. Any time I turn on my tivi, I see American shoot themselves on the freeway, stealing millions of dollars from public corporation, having sex with little children, being a mother at the age of 12, drug addicts from icon rock/movie stars down to the ordinary people, committing murder or kidnapping women/children like having a daily meal, scamming old people for their hard-earned retirement savings etc etc..but I do not see any American "desert" their race at all.

Lastly, please stick with your race no matter what. If you have parents or children who don't behave in a way that is deemed desirable to you, you don't dumb them and go find other candidates that suit your interest do you? That's why the Vietnamese have this saying "con không chê cha mẹ nghèo khó "
Fable
Where do you live? Not everywhere is like that, man. To MyManD...
Virus
QUOTE(landsknechts @ May 4 2006, 12:32 AM) [snapback]1816761[/snapback]

Lastly, please stick with your race no matter what. If you have parents or children who don't behave in a way that is deemed desirable to you, you don't dumb them and go find other candidates that suit your interest do you? That's why the Vietnamese have this saying "con không chê cha mẹ nghèo khó "


so true
blacklight
QUOTE(MyManD @ May 4 2006, 12:08 AM) [snapback]1816691[/snapback]

Not sure if I have too much Viet pride. The Viets I've known since childhood have either become - drug addicts, teenage mothers, dropped out of school, are retarded, in jail, or all of the above. With people like that representing my race, it's hard to be proud being one. I can actually say that beyond my immediate family (and those in Vietnam I met when I went last year), I have not bothered to hang out with another Viet in over 2 years. Now the Chinese and Arabs, those guys know how to have a good time, while not being terrible human beings in the process.

Just my two cents.

Real pride begins with an acknowledgement of reality. In your case, your reality is not at all flattering but Vietnamese history has had its ups and downs, too - It's not all glory and victories and happy days forever. We were b!tch slapped and we had have bad breaks, too, but we came back from that every time. Acknowledging reality is only the first, although the most important step. And you have accomplished that step.

The next step is to change the reality in which you live for yourself. I take it that you are still in school, so soak up as much knowledge as you can, and push those grades up - If you need help, don't be too proud to ask, beg, whine or scream for help. Don't do anything that other clueless Viets have done, think twice before you make a stupid decision, and if you realize that you have made a stupid decision, back out of it immediately regardless of how bad or stupid you look if you back out.

Acknowledge the world around you, and then change it. But if the only thing you can change is yourself and you are changing yourself, then you are already changing your own world. If every Vietnamese changed himself or herself, Vietnam's world would be very different. Most Vietnamese refugees started with almost nothing but the clothes on their backs, but by changing just themselves, they are changing the world. Sure, it takes time, but when you are busy, time flies believe it or not.

If you do not know something today that you did not know yesterday, if you are not trying to do something today that you would not dare to do yesterday because you didn't think you could do it, then you are not pushing yourself. Go at your own pace, but keep pushing against your limitations. Otherwise, nothing happens, nothing changes.
SuperNguyen
QUOTE(MyManD @ May 4 2006, 12:08 AM) [snapback]1816691[/snapback]

Not sure if I have too much Viet pride. The Viets I've known since childhood have either become - drug addicts, teenage mothers, dropped out of school, are retarded, in jail, or all of the above. With people like that representing my race, it's hard to be proud being one. I can actually say that beyond my immediate family (and those in Vietnam I met when I went last year), I have not bothered to hang out with another Viet in over 2 years. Now the Chinese and Arabs, those guys know how to have a good time, while not being terrible human beings in the process.

Just my two cents.

not everybody live a perfect life...
dont hate on others just cuz you feel 'better' then them, rather help them out...


if those people you mentioned were all born rich kids, you think that would be the life they would be living?
Fable
Again, it all depends on where you live and what circumstances people are going through. Just because some Vietnamese are "bad apples" that doesn't mean all are.

Compare Chinese from the slums of Hong Kong to the ones that live in high rise buildings and carry a suit case to work everyday, and you'll see a difference.
TINMAN
Some unknown philosopher once said,

"One should always be aware of the world surrounding him, so that one of these days when the right opportunity arises, one can step up and make a difference for the better".

Isn't that why we're all here...to learn from one another.
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