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Johannjs
The Vietnamese keyboard

Where can I buy it ?
康师傅
vietnam
Johannjs
QUOTE(康师傅 @ Apr 29 2006, 12:17 AM) [snapback]1800174[/snapback]

vietnam

Whereabouts? You mean Vietnam, in South-East Asia?

EDIT: on planet Earth?

LOL. No answer? I expected at least one answer from Vietnamese (in Vietnam).

It's the localised TCVN official keyboard integrated in Windows XP
nerdievis
wat do u need a viet keyboard for?.....u still can type viet in a regular keyboard
mystical_viet_angel
is there such a thing as a vietnamese keyboard?? cant u dla patch to get viet characters installed into ur PC??
uRugly
QUOTE(Johannjs @ Apr 28 2006, 08:58 PM) [snapback]1800645[/snapback]

Whereabouts? You mean Vietnam, in South-East Asia?

EDIT: on planet Earth?

LOL. No answer? I expected at least one answer from Vietnamese (in Vietnam).

It's the localised TCVN official keyboard integrated in Windows XP

lol dont listen to that fool biggrin.gif
Johannjs
QUOTE(nerdievis @ Apr 29 2006, 04:14 AM) [snapback]1800883[/snapback]

wat do u need a viet keyboard for?.....u still can type viet in a regular keyboard

Sometimes I need to type huge amounts of Vietnamese texts , as when I translate 100s of pages from books, technical and literary, it would be more pratical and faster to do the typing directly with a Vietnamee keuboard.

Of course I have my own typing programme (I used VPSKeys 4.31) or when I'm away I use online typing (on this page).

QUOTE(mystical_viet_angel @ Apr 29 2006, 06:01 AM) [snapback]1801211[/snapback]

is there such a thing as a vietnamese keyboard?? cant u dla patch to get viet characters installed into ur PC??

If your computer runs Windows XP, then you don't need to download anything, it's already integrated in XP: just use the settings to switch to Vietnamese keyboard mode (click on the Windows Start menu on the lower left of your screen. Go to Settings » Control Panels » Regional and Language Options and select Vietnamese input).

That's where you need that physical Vietnamese keyboard, rather than the French AZERTY or the UK/US QWERTY keyboard, those which I saw in webcafes in HCM city and elsewhere.

If the Vietnamese keyboard is not yet available, then it's high time to produce it, production is easy! and the first big customer will be the VN government to equip its administrations. Somebody could make big money to occupy the market right now! YOU? anyone in Vietnam to volunteer earning big money? you must be fast on the draw! do it now! (for the market can't wait).

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Any Aussies here (preferably an AussieChick!)? can you tell me which keyboard is used in Autralia? the US or UK international keyboard?

See comparisons of keyboard layout here
The Vietnamese keyboard

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Bergamot
QUOTE(Johannjs @ Apr 29 2006, 05:22 PM) [snapback]1801772[/snapback]

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Any Aussies here (preferably an AussieChick!)? can you tell me which keyboard is used in Autralia? the US or UK international keyboard?



I'm looking at my keyboard now, and we use the US version.
Johannjs
QUOTE(Bergamot @ Apr 29 2006, 11:23 AM) [snapback]1801846[/snapback]

I'm looking at my keyboard now, and we use the US version.

Thank you!

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I think the Canadian keyboard is very interesting (AltGr + Spacebar = non-breaking space),

the French keyboard is the weirdest to type Vietnamese using the VNI mode (because of the top row)!
arun
the arrangement of the keys in Windows XP does not allow for efficient typing at all. a more efficient arrangement can be found on any old mechanical typewriter in VN. since it is necessary to include the letters w z f j for English, the most popular second language, the new Vietnamese keyboard would have one extra row of keys as compared to a regular English keyboard, making it a little clunky, but i think it is still manageable.
Johannjs
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I had to look again, but no letter is missing on the Vietnamese keyboard! where have you been looking?

Logically, I think the AltGr key can be locked, thus transforming it into a US keyboard.
arun
the old typewriter that my grandfather owned didnt have w z f j, but if anyone is gonna produce a keyboard for the vietnamese market, they will find it impossible or extremely inconvenient to leave out those letters. the keyboard on windows XP (as presented from your link) doesnt leave any characters out but efficiency in typing could be improved with a different arrangement of keys. also, to type numbers, it is still necessary to switch back and forth unless there are separate keys for the number as well. the typewriter i mentioned above has all the vietnamese characters as well as numbers.
ham_let
QUOTE(Johannjs @ Apr 29 2006, 06:32 AM) [snapback]1801852[/snapback]

I think the Canadian keyboard is very interesting (AltGr + Spacebar = non-breaking space),

lol. wow. i never knew they used a different keyboard than other canadians. we jsut use the american keyboard. heh. the québec keyboard looks so much easier to use than the AZERTY keyboard. icon_redface.gif

if only i had one of those before i stopped taking french. >__> so many alt codes i had to remember. LOL. (i actually know all of them + all the capital letters now. pathetic)
Johannjs
Hamlet
Well, does that mean you worked with the IBM PC keyboard without the numeric pad? I had also to remember all the escape/control sequences and the alt-codes...

Now, keyboards tend to be more international (108 keys) and they are just so cheap, and can be ordered directly on the internet...

But international also means that you just can't even try to remember anything! There are well over 80,000 codes! you can go here

http://theorem.ca/~mvcorks/cgi-bin/unicode...t=0020&end=0200

and just modify the hexadecimal bracket codes and see what you get?

tails
QUOTE(Johannjs @ Apr 29 2006, 12:22 AM) [snapback]1801772[/snapback]

If your computer runs Windows XP, then you don't need to download anything, it's already integrated in XP: just use the settings to switch to Vietnamese keyboard mode (click on the Windows Start menu on the lower left of your screen. Go to Settings » Control Panels » Regional and Language Options and select Vietnamese input).


im using window xp right i went to control panels like you said but i cant not find vietnamese input in the drop down list
Johannjs
QUOTE(tails @ Apr 30 2006, 08:03 AM) [snapback]1804428[/snapback]

im using window xp right i went to control panels like you said but i cant not find vietnamese input in the drop down list


Check again

Windows XP and Language Setup

Note

This documentation is for Windows XP and works with the French, Italian, Spanish and Vietnamese languages. It will NOT work with Chinese, Japanese or Korean.

Windows XP Setup:

From the Start Menu, go to 'Settings'.
Click on 'Control Panel'.
Double Click on the "Regional and Language Options" control panel.
On the top there are three tabs. Click on "Languages"
Click on the "Details" button.
In the frame that says "Installed Services" click on the "Add" button. The "Add Input Language" dialog box pops up.
Scroll down the language menu until you see the language of your choice and click. Then click 'OK'.
When that box disappears, you are back to the original dialog box. Click OK as many times as necessary to get out of it.
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Look at taskbar on the lower right hand corner of your screen. Look for a small dark blue box with the letters "EN" on it.
click the box, then click on "VI" and make sure when you are done, the dark blue box says "VI".

You can now type in Vietnamese using Internet Explorer, Microsoft Office, and a host of other programs...

Note: This assumes that during the initial install of Windows, the appropriate language packs were installed properly. If they were not, you must install them before the above instructions will work.
Johannjs
@arun and

@ranmatatsumaru (are you there?)

if you have specific needs, you can create your own keyboard layout

http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/tools/msklc.mspx


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