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Shooterz
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Nampaknya jiran dari Malaysia ini sudah semakin kurang ajar dan semakin berani menunjuk perangai KAMPONG mereka yang mengada-ada itu! Mula-mula isu air, kini isu jambatan pula yang di api-apikan.

Apa lah mereka ini? Dah lama sangat tinggal kat kampong agaknya itu sebab perangai pun macam mentaliti kampong. Bangun dan sedarlah sikit wahai rakyat Malaysia. Ini bukan zaman ternak ayam macam kampong-kampong korang di Malaysia itu. Sekarang era globalisasi. Setiap negara berhak untuk mengambil keputusan sendiri.

Singapura adalah sebuah negara yang merdeka dan berdaulat. Kita sebagai sebuah negara yang merdeka berhak menentukan sama ada kita mahu jambatan ke taknak jembatan ke, semuanya dilakukan atas tanah kita sendiri. Bukannya minta menompang kat tanah orang lain kan?

Apalah kecoh sangat pasal jambatan? Causeway yang ada sekarang tu masih elok, ni nak buat jembatan bengkok pulak. Dah lah tu, kita tak nak ....tapi dia nak buat jembatan separuh jalan. whahaaaa. lawak betul biar satu dunia tengok "kepandaian" orang-orang malaysia, buat jambatan tak berhubung.

Bila dah siap nanti, namakan jembatan tu "Jambatan Perasaan". Sebab kita tak nak, tapi orang Malaysia aje yang perasaan nak.

Mereka tak sedar ke jikalau takde rakyat Singapura yang menyumbang kepada ekonomi malaysia berbelanja setiap hari di Johor, ekonomi mereka akan tidak ubah seperti ekonomi kampong. Semua hasil ternakkan, sayur, ayam, telur, kelapa sawit, kebanyakkannya dia jual kepada Siapa? rakyat Singapura gak.

Saya rasa rakyat Singapura perlu bangun dan sedar. Usahlah berbelanja di Malaysia lagi. Negeri jiran kita nih memang banyak sangat jenayah. Setiap hari ada sahaja orang yang kena rompak. Nama aje negeri Islam tapi perangai? Hai...negeri bukan Islam lebih baik. degan jiran pun asyik nak bergadoh.

apadah....


Source :
ewadah
samheisfl
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Ini bukan zaman ternak ayam macam kampong-kampong korang di Malaysia itu.
apadah....


heh... Ayam yg derang makan pun dari Malaysia.. embarassedlaugh.gif2

Edit: my POV, Forum tu hanya tuk lepas geram je.. heh..
pancaindera
kenapa 'orang malaysia' yang kurang ajar? i think ur title tersilap?
forrestcat
Lol.....S'pore's government propaganda at work..... madcool.gif

If M'sia build its part of its bridge and S'pore dun.....leaving the bridge half finished and disconnecting S'pore from the peninsular..well then....Johoreans will have to learn not to depend on S'pore's shoppers and S'pore would probably have to learn making food out of sewage.... embarassedlaugh.gif ..jk only......
Shooterz
QUOTE (pancaindera @ Apr 4 2006, 05:13 PM) *
kenapa 'orang malaysia' yang kurang ajar? i think ur title tersilap?

meh copy n paste from the ewadah forum
pancaindera
QUOTE (Shooterz @ Apr 4 2006, 12:27 PM) *
meh copy n paste from the ewadah forum


oops icon_redface.gif icon_redface.gif . i misunderstood the post. im so blur la. icon_redface.gif
johnleemk
QUOTE (forrestcat @ Apr 4 2006, 07:24 PM) *
Lol.....S'pore's government propaganda at work..... madcool.gif

If M'sia build its part of its bridge and S'pore dun.....leaving the bridge half finished and disconnecting S'pore from the peninsular..well then....Johoreans will have to learn not to depend on S'pore's shoppers and S'pore would probably have to learn making food out of sewage.... embarassedlaugh.gif ..jk only......

http://www.maddruid.com/2006/03/747-of-bri...-ignoramus.html

(assuming you were serious about saying the bridge would be half-finished) biggthumpup.gif
hamizao
M'sia nak buat jambatan baru atas sebab2 tertentu. S'pore pula nak packagekan dengan kehendak2 dia yang lain2 yang tidak ada kena mengena dengan jambatan itu. Yang selalu didengar...isu air, air space, pasir ..... Buat saya ...jambatan separuh tu pun tak kesahlah at least M'sia tak makan arm twist S'pore.

Topik nipun tak kena!
samheisfl
Actually susah kalau kita nak bincang pasal topik ni sbb tak byk org SG kat sini..
pancaindera
tangaziwi orang s'pura. tapi dia tak pandai cakap BM rasanya.
Icez
Juz pasal jembatan pun nak gaduh ke? Mrepek seh.. icon_confused.gif
Crita ni bila nk habis ar?
Tadi baru celebrate international friendship day..
tangawizi
QUOTE (pancaindera @ Apr 6 2006, 12:11 PM) *
tangaziwi orang s'pura. tapi dia tak pandai cakap BM rasanya.


Apa itu? confused.gif

Hari ini, saya pandai cakap Melayu. Hati hati..ya...? Jangan play play...ya? biggrin.gif
pancaindera
QUOTE (tangawizi @ Apr 6 2006, 01:35 PM) *
Apa itu? confused.gif

Hari ini, saya pandai cakap Melayu. Hati hati..ya...? Jangan play play...ya? biggrin.gif


alamak! eek.gif . pandai pula kau cakap bm ya. bagusla biggthumpup.gif . saya masih tidak tahu la apa bangsa engkau. apa bangsa kau? orang putih yah? mat salleh? icon_confused.gif

anyway this thread is from a s'porean forum. they were complaining about m'sians, how we always make a big deal out of the water issue, bridge, etc.(i think). maybe u have a view on this.
tangawizi
QUOTE (pancaindera @ Apr 6 2006, 05:44 PM) *
alamak! eek.gif . pandai pula kau cakap bm ya. bagusla biggthumpup.gif . saya masih tidak tahu la apa bangsa engkau. apa bangsa kau? orang putih yah? mat salleh? icon_confused.gif

anyway this thread is from a s'porean forum. they were complaining about m'sians, how we always make a big deal out of the water issue, bridge, etc.(i think). maybe u have a view on this.


kenapa mat salleh? confused.gif
saya orang gila lah embarassedlaugh.gif

the bridge? I juz found out that its supposed to go llike this.



i wonder why people on both sides of the causeway are going ape-$hit over this.. biggrin.gif
Iron Malayan
Oh, this thread is only about Singapore. I thought it was something important. icon_redface.gif
tangawizi
heehee... where u were looking for malay jeans to compare? biggrin.gif
pancaindera
QUOTE (tangawizi @ Apr 6 2006, 04:25 PM) *
kenapa mat salleh? confused.gif
saya orang gila lah embarassedlaugh.gif


lols! we have a cracko in the house. embarassedlaugh.gif

gurau2 saja tangawizi. biggrin.gif
mat kilau
stupid phuck singapore. malaysia build bridge to let water flow and small ship go throgh the strait
forrestcat
QUOTE (mat kilau @ Apr 8 2006, 06:48 PM) *
stupid phuck singapore. malaysia build bridge to let water flow and small ship go throgh the strait


S'pore just wanna use the issue to their advantage.........
Iron Malayan
Singapore charge Malaysian motorists 20 dollars for entering their island. I guess now its payback time.


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Foreign vehicles to pay entry fee

Updated : 06-04-2006
Media : The Star
Story By : SA’ODAH ELIAS and CELESTE FONG

PETALING JAYA: The Cabinet endorsed yesterday the plan to impose a levy on Singapore- and Thailand-registered vehicles entering the country as a way to help defray the high fuel subsidy.

According to sources, the Cabinet had directed the relevant authorities – particularly the Immigration, Road Transport and Customs and Excise departments – to work out the details on the rates and mechanism of the plan.

The sources said the Cabinet wanted the plan to be carried out smoothly and to know which authority was best to collect the levy.

Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Minister Datuk Shafie Apdal, meanwhile, said the whole plan was still being studied, including the need to look into how the levy was to be imposed.

“These are the details that we need to sort out,” Shafie said after chairing his ministry's post-Cabinet meeting.

His ministry has been made the secretariat to coordinate all the studies and recommendations from other ministries.

'There was a meeting last week, and more meetings will be held soon to look into the details,” he added.

Tourism Minister Datuk Tengku Adnan Mansor had recently said that tourists driving into the country would have to pay RM20 (S$8.77) per entry.

Several years ago, Singapore introduced an entry permit of S$20 (RM45) for foreign vehicles and S$4 (RM9) for foreign motorcycles entering the republic.

The Johor government, however, is concerned over the plan to impose a levy on Singaporean vehicles.

Its Tourism Committee chairman Freddy Long said the move would have a negative impact on tourism. Johor earns nearly RM5mil a day from Singaporean visitors.

About 23,500 Singaporeans visit Johor Baru daily, spending an average of RM200 each on food, shopping and entertainment. Most of them drive into the city.
Iron Malayan
If being charged for entering Malaysia is not bad enough, now they are not allowed to smuggle sugar out of Malaysia. Serve them right.

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Nation
Monday April 10, 2006

‘Sugar ban’ ‘notice not up, Singaporeans unaware of ruling

By FARIK ZOLKEPLI

JOHOR BARU: It was sweet sorrow at the Causeway checkpoint. Singaporeans who bought sugar here were stopped from taking it home.

“Is there a ban?” they asked Customs officers who confiscated their packets of sugar.

The Singaporeans said there were no signboard to tell them they could not bring along the item when they travel back home across the Causeway.

Sugar costs RM1.40 per kilo in Malaysia while in Singapore the same amount is sold at between S$1.05(RM2.37) and S$1.60(RM3.60).

The hordes of Singaporeans who come here usually put sugar on their shopping list.

Motorist Jeremy Ng, who regularly shops and plays golf here, said he was not aware of the sugar ruling, as there were no notice at the checkpoint about the matter.

“I don’t know that we are not supposed to take sugar out of Malaysia,” he said, adding that he often shops for groceries in Johor though not necessarily for sugar.

Technician Johari Mohd said he had heard something about a ban but brushed it aside as he thought it was just “empty talk.”

“I did not pay much attention to it, especially when there was no signage at the checkpoint when you enter or exit the causeway,” he said.

“I always buy sugar here as it is considerably cheaper.

“Now, I have to cross it out from my grocery list,” said Johari, 28.

Another Singaporean, who only wished to be known as Kit, said he was stopped at the checkpoint on Saturday as he was sorting out several packets of sugar.

“I did not know about the ruling and there was no signage to inform me about the ban,” he said, adding that he buys about 10kg of sugar from Johor each week.

Asked about the matter, state Customs director Sarmin Md Hussin said the department would put up the signage before April 21, when those who bring sugar out of the country would be fined.

On Friday, Customs director-general Datuk Abdul Rahman Abdul Hamid announced that from April 21, those caught bringing out sugar from the country would be fined RM100 per kilo.
He said that at the moment there would be no fines, just seizures, to give people time to adjust to the new ruling.
A day earlier, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi had said the Government was stepping up enforcement against those hoarding sugar and raising the price of the controlled item.
tangawizi
Most of the SG visitors to JB are low-income groups trying to keep their monthly grocery bills down. I wonder if the $20 levy still makes it cheaper overall to shop in JB?
swingdoctor
Does anyone know why Singapore is not keen on building the new bridge?
Seems like a good idea. Currently the causeway as I'm aware doesn't allow water to flow through freely which makes the straights of Johor dirty +++.
tangawizi
Probably because the new bridge will allow ships to go through the straits of Johore to the port of JB, thus taking more business away from the Port of SG more than it already has?

Wd you give business freely away without something in return? icon_wink.gif
samheisfl
QUOTE (swingdoctor @ Apr 11 2006, 12:04 PM) *
Does anyone know why Singapore is not keen on building the new bridge?
Seems like a good idea. Currently the causeway as I'm aware doesn't allow water to flow through freely which makes the straights of Johor dirty +++.


Small ships from Pelabuhan Johor (PJ) can just straight away go to Pelabuhan tanjung pelepas (PTP) and and those ships doesnt need to go around singapore anymore.. this will cut transportation cost and time.. this definitely will boost the PJ and PTP.. PTP already 'stole' PSA (port of Singapore) largest customer which is 'Maersk' and the second largest, Evergreen. PTP offered far lower charge than PSA.. Singapore see PTP is their main threat..
swingdoctor
QUOTE (samheisfl @ Apr 11 2006, 08:13 AM) *
Small ships from Pelabuhan Johor (PJ) can just straight away go to Pelabuhan tanjung pelepas (PTP) and and those ships doesnt need to go around singapore anymore.. this will cut transportation cost and time.. this definitely will boost the PJ and PTP.. PTP already 'stole' PSA (port of Singapore) largest customer which is 'Maersk' and the second largest, Evergreen. PTP offered far lower charge than PSA.. Singapore see PTP is their main threat..

I don't know how much business it will take b/c of the percieved stability in Singapore compared to MY by foreigners and the infrastructure already in place in Singapore.
It would do wonders for the environment though. Personally I feel SG has its priorities all wrong.
tangawizi
Hm...why do you think SG is perceived to be more stable than MY? Hasn't MY seen a one-party rule since independence as well?

I also hope the environment would improve if PTP takes off as the regional shipping hub.

SG has its priorities all wrong? Hm...there's many things wrong aside from its priorities. But by and large, SGs have learnt to live with these errors rather well. Who's to know what the alternatives may be like?
swingdoctor
QUOTE (tangawizi @ Apr 12 2006, 01:41 AM) *
Hm...why do you think SG is perceived to be more stable than MY? Hasn't MY seen a one-party rule since independence as well?

With terrorists coming from Malaysia, with Malaysia being a predominantly Muslim country which discriminates against the other races, with Mahatirs often "fighting words" to the west and with SG having a proven record of being a stable environment to do business there, I think certainly SG has an advantage over MY.

QUOTE (tangawizi @ Apr 12 2006, 01:41 AM) *
SG has its priorities all wrong? Hm...there's many things wrong aside from its priorities. But by and large, SGs have learnt to live with these errors rather well. Who's to know what the alternatives may be like?

I agree, and it's very easy for a foreigner to come in and pass judgement on something without looking at the deeper issues. I hope though that being one of the more developed countries in the region, they could do something like this to help the environment.
When I was a child you could fish in the straits and go swimming. Nowadays nobody even tries to fish, there's just nothing there and nobody goes swimming either. It doesn't help that the hosp in JB flushes its effluent directly into the water without treatment and the polluted Sungai Segget in JB also flows directly into the Straits but, Singapore being the generally wealthier country, I was hoping it could do a little more. But thats just my 2 bits worth shrug.gif
Iron Malayan
^^ Nope. The Tebrau Straits is being polluted by Singapore.

BTW here is the latest news.

KUALA LUMPUR, April 12 (Bernama) -- The government has decided not to proceed with the construction of the bridge in Johor to replace the Causeway, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi announced Wednesday.

The decision was made after taking into consideration the views and sentiments of the rakyat, particularly concerning the supply of sand and allowing Singapore to use Malaysia's airspace, he said in a statement

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PM Says Decision On Bridge Due To Legal Implications

Updated : 12-04-2006
Media : Bernama


PUTRAJAYA, April 12 (Bernama) -- Malaysia decided to stop the construction of the "scenic bridge" meant to replace the Malaysian half of the Johor Causeway because of its legal implications and complications, said Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi Wednesday.

The Prime Minister said the Cabinet deliberated on the project at its weekly meeting today and felt that there would still be legal implications and complications to resolve afterward should Malaysia proceed with the project.

"Problems will arise when we have to cut the causeway, the water pipes and railway track and connected them to the new bridge. The problems will continue," he told Bernama when asked to explain why Malaysia did not just build the bridge in its own territory without negotiating with Singapore.

Speaking at a news conference earlier after visiting the Ministry of Rural and Regional Development here, Abdullah said the Cabinet made the decision to scrap the project after considering the sentiments and wishes of Malaysians who opposed the project being linked by Singapore to the sale of sand to the republic and the use of Malaysia's air space by its military.

"If we proceed with the project, it will upset the people and turn the project into an endless issue," he said.

He said Malaysia was not pressured by Singapore or anybody to make the decision.

"In fact, we made our decision on our own. It is a political decision. Singapore did not even know about our decision. We take into consideration the feelings of the people.

"We can't ignore the feelings of the people because we are the government elected by the people, for the people," he said.

The Prime Minister said the newly built Customs, Immigration and Quarantine (CIQ) complex would not turn into a "white elephant" as it still could be used with the construction of roads linking the causeway to the complex.

He said new roads would be built to divert traffic to the CIQ complex before heading to the causeway.

The half-bridge or "scenic bridge", estimated to cost RM620 million, was to be built on the Malaysian side of the Tebrau Strait.

The bridge was meant to form part of the RM2.5 billion Integrated Southern Gateway project to turn Johor into a regional logistics centre connected by a network of ports, an airport and highways.

Work began in early 2003 but was halted in February 2004 to enable negotiations to proceed with Singapore to build a straight bridge to replace the 80-year-old causeway.

However, the talks stalled because Singapore set two conditions -- the sale of sand to the republic and the use of Malaysian air space by its air force -- to be agreed to by Malaysia before the republic gave its consent to the bridge plan.

Last January, the government gave the go-ahead to resume work to build the bridge and targeted it for completion in the second quarter of 2009.

The decision drew objections from Singapore.

In his announcement today, Abdullah said the government had stopped all negotiations with Singapore pertaining to the bridge, thus the issue of the sale of sand and the use of Malaysian air space did not arise any more.

He said Malaysia's decision on the bridge would not affect bilateral relations with Singapore, which were normal, but future discussions on outstanding issues between the two countries would not include bridge, sand or air space matters.

One of the outstanding issues is the continued sale of water from Malaysia to the republic.

Abdullah said Malaysia-Singapore relations would continue as they did not depend on the bridge alone, adding that their relationship was not an issue.

He also said the government would compensate about RM100 million to Gerbang Perdana Sdn Bhd, the bridge contractor, for scrapping the project.
forrestcat
April 12, 2006 22:38 PM E-mail this news to a friend Printable version of this news

Johor, Kit Siang Welcome Decision On Bridge

JOHOR BAHARU, April 12 (Bernama) -- Johor Menteri Besar Datuk Abdul Ghani Othman, Members of Parliament from the state and Opposition Leader Lim Kit Siang are among those who support the government's decision to scrap the "scenic bridge" project.

Ghani said the decision was very much appreciated by the people of Johor who could not accept Singapore's demands on the sale of sand to the republic and the use of Johor air space by its fighter jets in return for its agreement to join Malaysia in building the bridge to replace the Johor Causeway.

"We are grateful the decision took into account the people's sentiments. We also accept the federal government's decision to stop negotiation on the project and to retain the causeway," he reporters in his office Wednesday.

Lim, in welcoming the decision, said it would be good for two-way relations between Malaysia and Singapore.

"I welcome the decision and hope the two countries can negotiate to resolve the other issues between us in the Asean spirit," he said in the Parliament lobby in Kuala Lumpur.

Johor Baharu Barisan Nasional MP

Datuk Shahrir Abdul Samad said the decision was the best step and in keeping with the wishes of the people not to bow to Singapore's demands.

"The demands are opposed by a large number of Malaysians, especially those in Johor, and it is better for the government not to build the bridge at all rather than to give in to the demands," he said.

He said the government must now find ways to ensure the new Customs, Immigration and Quarantine (CIQ) complex, which formed part of the bridge project and was now nearing completion, would be fully used.

Sri Gading BN MP Datuk Mohamed Abdul Aziz described the bridge decision as wise and anticipated.

"We do not have to build the bridge if it results in us losing our dignity. The bridge would also have benefited the Singaporeans who enter Malaysia...now they will have to put up with the congestion on the causeway," he said.

Dr Wee Ka Siong (BN-Ayer Hitam) said he agreed with the decision but hoped the government had plans to make full use of the CIQ complex and prevent it from becoming a "white elephant".

-- BERNAMA

Apparently the bridge issue has been resolved .....I guess SG demands are too much but this will improve bilateral relationship from now on since the matter has been a major source of tension for the 2 countries but what'll happen to the CIQ complex??
swingdoctor
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Apr 12 2006, 09:50 AM) *
^^ Nope. The Tebrau Straits is being polluted by Singapore.

BTW here is the latest news.

KUALA LUMPUR, April 12 (Bernama) -- The government has decided not to proceed with the construction of the bridge in Johor to replace the Causeway, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi announced Wednesday.

The decision was made after taking into consideration the views and sentiments of the rakyat, particularly concerning the supply of sand and allowing Singapore to use Malaysia's airspace, he said in a statement

Bugger, if they are going to build more roads connecting the new customs to the causeway, more traffic problems in JB. They really didn't think this through at the planning stage. icon_sad.gif
In what way does Singapore pollute the straits?
mmmbop
Guess Sg think they contribute nothing to the pollution..and still they refuse to demolish the causeway
forrestcat
QUOTE (swingdoctor @ Apr 13 2006, 10:17 AM) *
Bugger, if they are going to build more roads connecting the new customs to the causeway, more traffic problems in JB. They really didn't think this through at the planning stage. icon_sad.gif
In what way does Singapore pollute the straits?


mmmmmmmm...most engineers build first and plan later along the way...
samheisfl
QUOTE (swingdoctor @ Apr 11 2006, 10:14 PM) *
I don't know how much business it will take b/c of the percieved stability in Singapore compared to MY by foreigners and the infrastructure already in place in Singapore.
It would do wonders for the environment though. Personally I feel SG has its priorities all wrong.


Since sg is mainly a port country, PSA is their main concern... Maybe the sg has the infrastucture, but PTP also have all the infrastucture + more land + cheaper. In 2004, PTP is the fastest growing port in the world..
BMW placed their regional hub at PTP too..

But i just wondering about PTP and Port Klang, do they have to compete which other?
forrestcat
QUOTE (samheisfl @ Apr 13 2006, 02:00 PM) *
Since sg is mainly a port country, PSA is their main concern... Maybe the sg has the infrastucture, but PTP also have all the infrastucture + more land + cheaper. In 2004, PTP is the fastest growing port in the world..
BMW placed their regional hub at PTP too..

But i just wondering about PTP and Port Klang, do they have to compete which other?


PSA handles 10 million or more TEU of cargo annually, PTP 2 Million only, so PSA won't be affected much by PTP unless PTP could offer something better. PTP is using PSA as its hinterland..hehe

I believe it's a bit strange to build PTP coz Port of Johor is already there and many co. refuse to go to PTP, so PTP has to rely on new customers.
swingdoctor
QUOTE (forrestcat @ Apr 13 2006, 01:31 AM) *
PSA handles 10 million or more TEU of cargo annually, PTP 2 Million only, so PSA won't be affected much by PTP unless PTP could offer something better. PTP is using PSA as its hinterland..hehe

I believe it's a bit strange to build PTP coz Port of Johor is already there and many co. refuse to go to PTP, so PTP has to rely on new customers.

All these acronyms are making my head spin embarassedlaugh.gif2
tangawizi
QUOTE (swingdoctor @ Apr 13 2006, 02:31 PM) *
All these acronyms are making my head spin embarassedlaugh.gif2



Dun worry abt the acronyms..!

Here's my take on this port rivalry.. I met a guy who works for Maersk (the shipping liner that moved to PTP) and he tells me that there is room for growth in both PTP and PSA. Its not really a zero sum game where you win, I lose.

Also, it's good to have PTP or PSA as a back-up in case the region suffers a maritime terrorist act. We have to plan ahead and check all scenarios. This is something which hadn't been done with the scenic bridge it seems.. but I could be wrong about the underlying reasons for pulling out of the project.

Have a good easter everybody! Off to hunt for dinosaur eggs in the Rift Valley. biggthumpup.gif
__earth
QUOTE (forrestcat @ Apr 13 2006, 02:31 PM) *
PSA handles 10 million or more TEU of cargo annually, PTP 2 Million only, so PSA won't be affected much by PTP unless PTP could offer something better. PTP is using PSA as its hinterland..hehe

I believe it's a bit strange to build PTP coz Port of Johor is already there and many co. refuse to go to PTP, so PTP has to rely on new customers.


You do realize that PTP is on the west side of Johor and Port of Johor (along with Pasir Gudang) is on the eastern board, right? So, the two ports aren't actually in the same place.

And PTP is already larger than Port Johor (way larger) and it's not 2 mil; it's 6 mil as of 2004 instead. Should be larger than 6 by now. Singapore on the other hand handles over 20 mil.
Iron Malayan
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Apr 12 2006, 09:17 PM) [snapback]1745864[/snapback]

In what way does Singapore pollute the straits?
The hosp in SG flushes its effluent directly into the water without treatment.
swingdoctor
QUOTE(Iron Malayan @ Apr 16 2006, 10:44 AM) [snapback]1756874[/snapback]

The hosp in SG flushes its effluent directly into the water without treatment.

I don't know if Singapore Hosp does it, but I know the Tunku Aminah Hospital in JB flushes its effluent directly into the straits w/o treatment.
Iron Malayan
QUOTE(swingdoctor @ Apr 17 2006, 02:36 AM) [snapback]1759570[/snapback]

I don't know if Singapore Hosp does it, but I know the Tunku Aminah Hospital in JB flushes its effluent directly into the straits w/o treatment.
I don't know if the Tunku Aminah Hospital in JB does it, but I know Singapore Hosp flushes its effluent directly into the straits w/o treatment.
forrestcat
QUOTE(Iron Malayan @ Apr 18 2006, 02:36 AM) [snapback]1760570[/snapback]


I don't know if Singapore Hosp does it, but I know the Tunku Aminah Hospital in JB flushes its effluent directly into the straits w/o treatment.

I don't know if the Tunku Aminah Hospital in JB does it, but I know Singapore Hosp flushes its effluent directly into the straits w/o treatment.


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NadzRuzmen
The government has stopped the project but now..someone else from Malaysia is not comfortable with Pak Lah's decision. Don't know la what's going to happen.
samheisfl
Well... Dr. M disagree with that.. Ermm.. its his project anyway..
samheisfl
QUOTE(__earth @ Apr 14 2006, 02:40 AM) [snapback]1748110[/snapback]

You do realize that PTP is on the west side of Johor and Port of Johor (along with Pasir Gudang) is on the eastern board, right? So, the two ports aren't actually in the same place.



Thats why the scenic bridge is needed.. smalls ship from PTP can go directly to PJ and vice versa.. they dont have to go around sg anymore...

Well.. the bridge project has been scrapped anyway...
Iron Malayan
Malacca wants bridge to Dumai

MALACCA: The Malacca government suggested the construction of a 60-km bridge linking the state to Dumai in Sumatra, Indonesia following the cancellation of the scenic bridge that links with Sing-apore.

Chief Minister Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam said the project was estimated to cost between RM1bil and RM2 bil.

It would have greater economic potential because the Sumatra population had reached 70 million compared to Singapore with only four million, he told reporters here on Tuesday.

Earlier, he attended a briefing and had a dialogue with Agriculture and Agro-Based Industry Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin at Seri Negeri.

Mohd Ali said the Malacca-Dumai bridge had been pondered over when Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad was the prime minister.

“It was mulled in 1995 or 1996 but died down because of the financial crisis hitting hard both countries in 1997,” he said.

He said the project could be undertaken by the governments or the private sector.

Mohd Ali said he had conveyed the proposal to Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi last Saturday when attending the Negri Sembilan and Johor Umno Divisions Leadership Course at a civics camp in Rembau, Negri Sembilan.

“I believe the bridge can boost the tourism and trade sectors between the two countries,” he said.

The scenic bridge to replace the Johor Causeway was called off by the Prime Minister in the best interest of the nation. – Bernama
NadzRuzmen
QUOTE(samheisfl @ Apr 21 2006, 08:56 PM) [snapback]1773193[/snapback]

Well... Dr. M disagree with that.. Ermm.. its his project anyway..

Yeah..it's his project and he has his own rational for that. Well, I think he's right. Stopping the project means we are giving up.
swingdoctor
QUOTE(Iron Malayan @ Apr 17 2006, 11:54 AM) [snapback]1760570[/snapback]

I don't know if the Tunku Aminah Hospital in JB does it, but I know Singapore Hosp flushes its effluent directly into the straits w/o treatment.

Not that I'm doubting you but, I don't know any hospital in Singapore that is built close to the straits. Do they pipe it all the way from inland?
samheisfl
QUOTE(Iron Malayan @ Apr 22 2006, 01:33 AM) [snapback]1773712[/snapback]

Malacca wants bridge to Dumai



It is gonna be the longest bridge in the world?
swingdoctor
QUOTE(samheisfl @ Apr 24 2006, 07:35 AM) [snapback]1783369[/snapback]

It is gonna be the longest bridge in the world?

Would have to be one of the highest too. Straits of Malacca is one of the busiest bodies of water in the worlds. The bridge would have to be high enough to allow ships to pass beneath it.
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