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blacklight
QUOTE (spicy @ Mar 27 2006, 02:05 PM) *

I hope it costs them big bucks.
daidai
It's not only just japanese and korean men...sad
toki
how coincidental. koreans are pissed at japanese men coming over and paying for sex in korea. *barf*
dgs_vex
not so surprising. have you noticed that in alot of movies that have a large military presence thier is usually alot of sex, drinking and women involved. its a staple and its the truth.
bobvu
thanks to the stupid bac ky commies, the only decent living people can have is by selling their bodies. thumbsdown.gif
landsknechts
Blaming everything on the Vietnamese government again, Bobvu ? Prostitution is everywhere in this world, including the 1st world country U.S.
bobvu
vietnam needs to kick all the bac ky commies back to china. they are a bunch of leeches.
SuperNguyen
no ones like japanese people anyways...
blacklight
QUOTE (SuperNguyen @ Mar 27 2006, 09:58 PM) *
no ones like japanese people anyways...

The world is full of jerks who are not Japanese.
xyz
QUOTE (blacklight @ Mar 27 2006, 11:02 PM) *
The world is full of jerks who are not Japanese.


Some Japanese are bad, some are good. Some Vietnamese are good, some are bad. Some martial artists are good, some are not so good.....

blacklight
QUOTE (xyz @ Mar 27 2006, 11:59 PM) *
Some Japanese are bad, some are good. Some Vietnamese are good, some are bad. Some martial artists are good, some are not so good.....


That's an impressive Ai-Ki-Do demo. On the street, I'd end the Ai-Ki-Do move with an axe kick to the guy's head rather than lock his wrist. And of course, I would defnitely not go out of my way to make his fall painless - He'd be using his neck as a landing brake, or he'd be face skating on the floor, or he'd be crashing on his belly. However, I am nitpicking.
blob
QUOTE (SuperNguyen @ Mar 28 2006, 12:58 PM) *
no ones like japanese people anyways...


Stupid icon_rolleyes.gif

It's not like this article is based on every single Japanese icon_rolleyes.gif
And it's not like it's just Vietnamese women as well, although i do feel for them.

And obviously, this treatment of those women should be condemned.
VOTAMVOTU
anyone here goes to strip club??? or watched porn before??? if you have and you talk $hit about people getting prostitute then you should check yourself.
SuperNguyen
QUOTE (VOTAMVOTU @ Mar 28 2006, 01:37 PM) *
anyone here goes to strip club??? or watched porn before??? if you have and you talk $hit about people getting prostitute then you should check yourself.

i dont see how the two related... wtf
strip club is easy money for girls who want to work the profession. They have their own choice to work there or not and they are not forced to do any sexual favours.

however prositution, like mentioned, many are sold to pimps because their family is poor or many others are "tricked" into having a job outside of vietnam. To them, they believe these BS and are sent out of the country yet when they arrive, they are forced into prostitution making little to no money at all.

Some girls who actually have jobs outside of VN also get abused due to their lack of understanding of the law/language in other countries.

And if your talking about prositution in VN, yes there are many who go into prostitution and some are lured in back pimps and have no way out. Some have debts which they cant pay off so are forced into.
spicy
QUOTE (VOTAMVOTU @ Mar 29 2006, 04:37 AM) *
anyone here goes to strip club??? or watched porn before??? if you have and you talk $hit about people getting prostitute then you should check yourself.

watching porn isn't that bad. crazy.gif
The_Azn_Megalomaniac
QUOTE (SuperNguyen @ Mar 27 2006, 09:58 PM) *
no ones like japanese people anyways...

LOL
TINMAN
How come prostitution in the former Soviet Union was cracked down with an iron fist, and yet it is so rampant in Vietnam?

Does China, North Korea, or Cuba have similar problems with prostitution?
shaitan1
when i took a trip back to vietnam all i saw were white people with the hookers, not koreans or japanese.
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Mar 28 2006, 12:27 AM) *
how coincidental. koreans are pissed at japanese men coming over and paying for sex in korea. *barf*

lol korean women love2.gif
Englanda
QUOTE (bobvu @ Mar 27 2006, 08:51 PM) *
thanks to the stupid bac ky commies, the only decent living people can have is by selling their bodies. thumbsdown.gif

Bobvu's glorious USA has no sex workers? yeah right , during the glory days of VNCH, there was no sex industry, American GIs were bored into killing indiscrimately!!!

which country doesn't have prostitutes?
VOTAMVOTU
shut the fu-k up with the bac ky $hit. viet are viet stop fu-king labeling different region, grow up.
The_Azn_Megalomaniac
QUOTE (landsknechts @ Mar 27 2006, 08:59 PM) *
Blaming everything on the Vietnamese government again, Bobvu ? Prostitution is everywhere in this world, including the 1st world country U.S.

There is probably the most prostitutes and whores and hos and pimps in the USA than anywhere else (yes, I know that whore and ho are synonyms for prostitute).

QUOTE (TINMAN @ Mar 30 2006, 06:53 PM) *
How come prostitution in the former Soviet Union was cracked down with an iron fist, and yet it is so rampant in Vietnam?

Does China, North Korea, or Cuba have similar problems with prostitution?

I hope that there isn't a lot of prostitution in China, or else I would be disgusted.
transtic
And Vietnamese men don't pay for sex? It just so happens that Japanese and Korean men can afford to pay more for their girls... Southeast Asia is like one gigantic brothel, if you look in the right... i mean.. wrong places O_o
arun
so many of you here have completely misunderstood the anger behind spicys thread. what he was actually complaining about was that the korean and japanese men were paying more money for the hookers that they drove the price of those hookers so high that spicy, a cheap bastard, could no longer afford to go out for a little entertainment. if this situation continues, sooner or later, spicy is going to mount a dog to release his frustration.
transtic
How cute!
chosenone22
alot of people blame white men for sleeping with underaged girls in parts of Asia. But a huge number of those men also come from Korea and Japan.
bobvu
vietnam should ban all japanese, taiwanese, and koreans from the country.
arun
damn, i just read this in a newspaper: the brothel (hotel Amara) where all this whoring took place was actually run by a bunch of Korean men who partnered with a Vietnamese women. the Korean dudes forbade the whores from doing business with Vietnamese men and Viet Kieu. most customers were Korean and Japanese men. so, to all of you jackasses in here who were sucking juices out of the Korean asses in the "I love Koreans" topic should wrap this info around a Korean d!ck and shove the whole thing up your @$$. dont forget to moan, "Ohh, my butthole hurts because your Korean d!ck is so big!" embarassedlaugh.gif
Takashi
QUOTE (bobvu @ Apr 3 2006, 10:29 PM) *
vietnam should ban all japanese, taiwanese, and koreans from the country.

lmao yeah............ crazy.gif
LBCfinest
i heard that japanese people are sort of perverded is it true? embarassedlaugh.gif2 ..lolz.
toki
why do people always make that assumption. stupid stereotypes. i think the japanese men perverted thing is overhyped. and i been there like 30 times.
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Apr 4 2006, 06:09 PM) *
why do people always make that assumption. stupid stereotypes. i think the japanese men perverted thing is overhyped. and i been there like 30 times.

pfff............you're lucky you're not a guy, men always have the worst stereotypes icon_rolleyes.gif

@LBC
no
toki
QUOTE (Takashi @ Apr 4 2006, 12:11 PM) *
pfff............you're lucky you're not a guy, men always have the worst stereotypes icon_rolleyes.gif

@LBC
no

yeah but than female get the the brunt of a lot of the injustices. rapes, sexual harrassment, less rights for women overall in the world, domestic violence. who you calling lucky? men are lucky that they morely have stereotypes when women are actually more victimized.

anyways. i did notice a lot of the people in asia who are paying for sex are usually people who can afford it. like korean men, japanese men, taiwanese men. even many american or european men come to asia for prostitution. would it not be a safe thing to assume that it is an issue of money rather than issue of nationality. i mean, guys in any country can be perverts
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Apr 4 2006, 06:13 PM) *
yeah but than female get the the brunt of a lot of the injustices. rapes, sexual harrassment, less rights for women overall in the world, domestic violence. who you calling lucky? men are lucky that they morely have stereotypes when women are actually more victimized.

like men arent raped, sexually harassed or victims of domestic violence? Talktohand.gif
We have all that and the $hitty stereotypes icon_rolleyes.gif
toki
QUOTE (Takashi @ Apr 4 2006, 12:14 PM) *
like men arent raped, sexually harassed or victims of domestic violence? Talktohand.gif
We have all that and the $hitty stereotypes icon_rolleyes.gif

one of my best guy friends was raped so i dont deny there being no rapes on men. but most of those rapes even are done by males themselves. women do rapings too. but those numbers cant compare to guys who rape. and we're blessed to live in wealthy countries like america and england and free ones too. theres still billions who live in countries where domestic violence is very much tolerated even by the government whether it be stoning of a woman for cheating, or allowing a man to kill his wife or daughter if "honor" has been tainted. and even if governments don't tolerate it, societies can not do enough about the issues of such.

QUOTE (toki @ Apr 4 2006, 12:13 PM) *
anyways. i did notice a lot of the people in asia who are paying for sex are usually people who can afford it. like korean men, japanese men, taiwanese men. even many american or european men come to asia for prostitution. would it not be a safe thing to assume that it is an issue of money rather than issue of nationality. i mean, guys in any country can be perverts
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Apr 4 2006, 06:20 PM) *
one of my best guy friends was raped so i dont deny there being no rapes on men. but most of those rapes even are done by males themselves. women do rapings too. but those numbers cant compare to guys who rape. and we're blessed to live in wealthy countries like america and england and free ones too. theres still billions who live in countries where domestic violence is very much tolerated even by the government whether it be stoning of a woman for cheating, or allowing a man to kill his wife or daughter if "honor" has been tainted. and even if governments don't tolerate it, societies can not do enough about the issues of such.

True true, women have always had it harder anyway even biologically.
toki
another thought. its also suprising that people aren't looking more into this than just saying "koreans do this japanese do that" sorta logic. thats looking too much on the surface. isnt it also ironic that many american and european men go to other countries for sex. not only that but many people in their countries use prostitutes too.

it isn't so if, for example, an american man goes to countries more for prostitution more than greek men do, does that automatically make american men more perverted and horrible? no. not necessarily.

the links between a lot of these men who go to foreign countries specifically for sex are usually: could afford to travel to other countries, people who could afford paid sex, and people who has the time to take a break like this (not like laborers have much time to take a vacation). the differences are mostly the nationalities of these men.

the downfall of these arguments are that people are pinning it on the nationality more so than the individuals themselves. and not looking at it from different angles.
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Apr 4 2006, 07:00 PM) *
the links between a lot of these men who go to foreign countries specifically for sex are usually: could afford to travel to other countries, people who could afford paid sex, and people who has the time to take a break like this (not like laborers have much time to take a vacation). the differences are mostly the nationalities of these men.

Depends on the country they're going to, a number of the English go to Holland, isn't remotely expensive to get there at all.
toki
QUOTE (Takashi @ Apr 4 2006, 01:08 PM) *
Depends on the country they're going to, a number of the English go to Holland, isn't remotely expensive to get there at all.

but then again. a lot of these places that people go to can be cheap to get there. but to travel out of the way in the first place takes time. almost all of the poor don't have the time to take these little trips. they have to try to focus their money more on survival needs rather than sexual ones. most of the sex tourism places are very much so in asia. costs a lot to get there, takes time.
Suijen
How much for teh buttsecks?

Anyways, agreed with Toki. Such recreational sporting is pretty much a rich man's hobby. I'm sure if we all had access to such facilities we'd see a lot more diversity in such events.
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Apr 4 2006, 07:13 PM) *
most of the sex tourism places are very much so in asia. costs a lot to get there, takes time.

It doesnt cost a lot to go to HK/China or some of the SE asian countries, just SK and Jp are b!tches when it comes to airline fees.
toki
QUOTE (Suijen @ Apr 4 2006, 01:15 PM) *
How much for teh buttsecks?

Anyways, agreed with Toki. Such recreational sporting is pretty much a rich man's hobby. I'm sure if we all had access to such facilities we'd see a lot more diversity in such events.

sadly a lot of thai immigrants had told me that most of the foreign costumers are made up of business men, lawyers, doctors, etc. this can apply for a lot of people.
QUOTE (Takashi @ Apr 4 2006, 01:16 PM) *
It doesnt cost a lot to go to HK/China or some of the SE asian countries, just SK and Jp are b!tches when it comes to airline fees.

can you stop comparing to your money standards this time? its not relevant in this discussion. you think a regular laborer has the money to travel on an airplane on the first place in most countries? no. get out of the mindset that you live in a wealthy country and look at it from a different point of view. you think most regular laborers have the time to take breaks from working for their families?
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Apr 4 2006, 07:20 PM) *
can you stop comparing to your money standards this time? its not relevant in this discussion. you think a regular laborer has the money to travel on an airplane on the first place in most countries? no. get out of the mindset that you live in a wealthy country and look at it from a different point of view. you think most regular laborers have the time to take breaks from working for their families?

Who said I was talking about family men? I'm referring to bachelors.
toki
QUOTE (Takashi @ Apr 4 2006, 01:23 PM) *
Who said I was talking about family men? I'm referring to bachelors.

but most laborers have to work for their families. whether it be their own (daughters, sons, wife, husband) or are with their mothers, fathers, etc. so even if they wanted to take a break they couldn't really. and even if they have no family to try to help support, they still have to support themselves continuously. men who are able take vacations like this are of the minority in the world.

you're saying a travelling to some places is not expensive. but to most world standards, these plane tickets are expensive. if plane tickets were dirt cheap where everyone could afford them, they had the time and money to take a vacation, and money elsewhere, then they'll be a huge surge in men going to foreign countries for paid sex. these types of trips are usually restricted from certain groups one way or another.
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Apr 4 2006, 07:29 PM) *
but most laborers have to work for their families. whether it be their own (daughters, sons, wife, husband) or are with their mothers, fathers, etc. so even if they wanted to take a break they couldn't really. and even if they have no family to try to help support, they still have to support themselves continuously. men who are able take vacations like this are of the minority in the world.

you're saying a travelling to some places is not expensive. but to most world standards, these plane tickets are expensive. if plane tickets were dirt cheap where everyone could afford them, they had the time and money to take a vacation, and money elsewhere, then they'll be a huge surge in men going to foreign countries for paid sex. these types of trips are usually restricted from certain groups one way or another.

icon_neutral.gif In a worldwide sense probably, chances are they could afford hookers in their own country, but even someone on the average wage in the UK could afford to travel for sex icon_confused.gif Students could if they really wanted to.
toki
QUOTE (Takashi @ Apr 4 2006, 01:43 PM) *
icon_neutral.gif In a worldwide sense probably, chances are they could afford hookers in their own country, but even someone on the average wage in the UK could afford to travel for sex icon_confused.gif Students could if they really wanted to.

but again average uk person is far richer than most of the world. and places like vietnam where its poor it doesn't really compare. but we're talking about the actuality that the link between the main demographic is in fact men who travel and are usually wealthier.
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Apr 4 2006, 07:59 PM) *
but again average uk person is far richer than most of the world. and places like vietnam where its poor it doesn't really compare. but we're talking about the actuality that the link between the main demographic is in fact men who travel and are usually wealthier.

Thats why I send in a worldwide sense you're probably right but considering third world countries are in that its pointless taking the worldwide sense into account because then usually wealthier men can always be said to do more of something icon_confused.gif
toki
QUOTE (Takashi @ Apr 4 2006, 02:02 PM) *
Thats why I send in a worldwide sense you're probably right but considering third world countries are in that its pointless taking the worldwide sense into account icon_confused.gif

why is it pointless taking a worldwide sense? many of the sex tourists are usually ones who can afford it. if it was more affordable and less time consuming it would be a lot bigger. but even people go to korea for sex tourism for those who can afford it.
Takashi
QUOTE (toki @ Apr 4 2006, 08:05 PM) *
why is it pointless taking a worldwide sense? many of the sex tourists are usually ones who can afford it. if it was more affordable and less time consuming it would be a lot bigger. but even people go to korea for sex tourism for those who can afford it.

just said, because then usually wealthier men can always be said to do more of something
Sex tourism is a big thing icon_rolleyes.gif
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