Full Version: Khmerkrom Future
to all khmerkrom...........I am not khmerkrom but I like all khmer in general. could you tell me, what can khmer do or can't do, living in south vietnam as khmer. for example can khmer speak khmer ,is there any school that teach just khmer language,do khmer there get along with the viet,etc... thanks
QUOTE (menghuy @ Apr 21 2004, 01:50 AM)
to all khmerkrom...........I am not khmerkrom but I like all khmer in general. could you tell me, what can khmer do or can't do, living in south vietnam as khmer. for example can khmer speak khmer ,is there any school that teach just khmer language,do khmer there get along with the viet,etc... thanks
They don't force us to speak Viets or denied us to speak Khmer. However, more and more Khmer Krom children are now speak Viets. Why? The Viets school ofcourse. There aren't much (or none) Khmer school in South Vietnam (Kampuchea Krom). The place that Khmer children go to learn Khmer is the temple.
Yes, many Khmer Krom are now become Vietnamise. Most living in South Vietnam don't even know what Khmer Krom is. However, the elder are teaching them to make sure they remember the past. The past will never died.
My point is, Khmer Krom cannot fight the Viet alone. Khmer Krom need to support Khmer Kandalh first in an effort to overthrow Hun Sen. When Hun Sen is overthrow and the new leader is emerge, then Cambodia would be able to help us Khmer Krom in the fight to claim what is our.
Thay
Hmm,i'm not khmerkrom too .but i have lots of khmerkrom staying in Thailand.they are my good friends.Even if Viets doesn't take our land we think we can love Viets more and be friend to each other than today.
Viets,come to our land and set up the puppet govermet for controlling khmer. That made us really unpleased toward Viets. their population illegal staying in my land.they have the right to make everything freely more than khmer herself. That was the reason why we don't like viet at all.
To all khmer krom,
I admire your brave,your khmer spirit, and we will hand in hand for our peace and drop down our enemy who first invading and destroying our culture our nation and more. We,khmer should be united.it's the one thing for us to resolve the current situation from the 2 big invaders. At the future we will rely on each other as we
're neigboring country. Khmer krom country and Khmer kandal country.
Viets,come to our land and set up the puppet govermet for controlling khmer. That made us really unpleased toward Viets. their population illegal staying in my land.they have the right to make everything freely more than khmer herself. That was the reason why we don't like viet at all.
To all khmer krom,
I admire your brave,your khmer spirit, and we will hand in hand for our peace and drop down our enemy who first invading and destroying our culture our nation and more. We,khmer should be united.it's the one thing for us to resolve the current situation from the 2 big invaders. At the future we will rely on each other as we
're neigboring country. Khmer krom country and Khmer kandal country.
QUOTE (nobodyknown @ Apr 29 2004, 09:38 PM)
At the future we will rely on each other as we
're neigboring country. Khmer krom country and Khmer kandal country.
're neigboring country. Khmer krom country and Khmer kandal country.
why two separate countries, since both are the same people?
QUOTE (nobodyknown @ Apr 29 2004, 09:38 PM)
Hmm,i'm not khmerkrom too .but i have lots of khmerkrom staying in Thailand.they are my good friends.Even if Viets doesn't take our land we think we can love Viets more and be friend to each other than today.
Viets,come to our land and set up the puppet govermet for controlling khmer. That made us really unpleased toward Viets. their population illegal staying in my land.they have the right to make everything freely more than khmer herself. That was the reason why we don't like viet at all.
To all khmer krom,
I admire your brave,your khmer spirit, and we will hand in hand for our peace and drop down our enemy who first invading and destroying our culture our nation and more. We,khmer should be united.it's the one thing for us to resolve the current situation from the 2 big invaders. At the future we will rely on each other as we
're neigboring country. Khmer krom country and Khmer kandal country.
Viets,come to our land and set up the puppet govermet for controlling khmer. That made us really unpleased toward Viets. their population illegal staying in my land.they have the right to make everything freely more than khmer herself. That was the reason why we don't like viet at all.
To all khmer krom,
I admire your brave,your khmer spirit, and we will hand in hand for our peace and drop down our enemy who first invading and destroying our culture our nation and more. We,khmer should be united.it's the one thing for us to resolve the current situation from the 2 big invaders. At the future we will rely on each other as we
're neigboring country. Khmer krom country and Khmer kandal country.
I doubt there will be a khmer krome in the recent future, why?
Saigon is the heart of Vietnam right now (hanoi is just a political city), and there are more than 7 million vietnamese living just in this metropolitan area, not counting the recent building suburban area in south and east of saigon
Second, Cambodians ethnics are the second largest minority in south vietnam behind chinese which is about 1.3 million.
Third, Cambodia itself is struggling with poverty.
Fourth, Cambodian American population is not that significant.
Face the reality.
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why two separate countries, since both are the same people?
we are not the same people , 2 different cultures . We have been enemies for century !! once again , not the same people
QUOTE (vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe @ Apr 30 2004, 07:31 PM)
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why two separate countries, since both are the same people?
we are not the same people , 2 different cultures . We have been enemies for century !! once again , not the same people
He's talking about Khmer Krom and Khmer Kandal, not Vietnamese and Cambodian. lol
I can't really see the Khmer Krom getting their land back, since the U.N recognizes it as Vietnamese land and has been Vietnamese land since 1750. How can the Khmer Krom and Khmer Kandal get Vietnamese land, when Vietnamese have better military equipment and have more experience in fighting as well.
QUOTE (Byron @ Apr 30 2004, 08:24 PM)
QUOTE (vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe @ Apr 30 2004, 07:31 PM)
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why two separate countries, since both are the same people?
we are not the same people , 2 different cultures . We have been enemies for century !! once again , not the same people
He's talking about Khmer Krom and Khmer Kandal, not Vietnamese and Cambodian. lol
I can't really see the Khmer Krom getting their land back, since the U.N recognizes it as Vietnamese land and has been Vietnamese land since 1750. How can the Khmer Krom and Khmer Kandal get Vietnamese land, when Vietnamese have better military equipment and have more experience in fighting as well.
In this generation, we, all Khmers don't need to liberate the country by using the power to fight the power. But the KhmerPeople can defeat the VN by using a political issue, tactice, and the International Law. We, Khmers don't care about how many years of VN experiencing in warfare. VN will be surprise and shock one day!!! Just see the situation in the Iraq country!!
RockHeart.
:genius:
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Apr 30 2004, 04:25 PM)
I doubt there will be a khmer krome in the recent future, why?
Saigon is the heart of Vietnam right now (hanoi is just a political city), and there are more than 7 million vietnamese living just in this metropolitan area, not counting the recent building suburban area in south and east of saigon
Second, Cambodians ethnics are the second largest minority in south vietnam behind chinese which is about 1.3 million.
Third, Cambodia itself is struggling with poverty.
Fourth, Cambodian American population is not that significant.
Face the reality.
Saigon is the heart of Vietnam right now (hanoi is just a political city), and there are more than 7 million vietnamese living just in this metropolitan area, not counting the recent building suburban area in south and east of saigon
Second, Cambodians ethnics are the second largest minority in south vietnam behind chinese which is about 1.3 million.
Third, Cambodia itself is struggling with poverty.
Fourth, Cambodian American population is not that significant.
Face the reality.
Again, you are incorrect. Khmer Krom will always be in the future. We will exist for as long as you exist. Do not assume my friend, if you lived long enough to see the future, then you future will be too big to see. You can elimate Khmer Krom, you should face the fact yourself.
As for the matter of our land, we will never give up. We will always fight for our freedom unlike other who just yap about other people fighting for freedom. Until then, be the victim and understand the history of your own, don't yap.
Do not underestimate to the future, what power lies in the future is not your to determine.
vietnamese shouldn't be telling khmer kroms anything. it's not like khmer people gonna listen to you vietnamese anyway.
Actually, I have to agree with Supernova, it is hard for Khmer Krom to take Saigon, especially with the population of Vietnamese there and the population of Khmer Kroms. I think it is best for Khmer Krom to focus on taking some of the Rural provinces that are hugely settled by Khmer Kroms first, like the provinces near the Cambodian border, and around the Mekong Delta.
QUOTE (Menikani @ Apr 30 2004, 11:11 PM)
Actually, I have to agree with Supernova, it is hard for Khmer Krom to take Saigon, especially with the population of Vietnamese there and the population of Khmer Kroms. I think it is best for Khmer Krom to focus on taking some of the Rural provinces that are hugely settled by Khmer Kroms first, like the provinces near the Cambodian border, and around the Mekong Delta.
i already know that. i'm just saying they shouldn't waste their time trying to discourage khmers from what they're trying to accomplish. whatever sounds reasonable, then go for it.
i don't want to talk about how to take the land back from viets or if/when that'd happen, just want to know why some khmers want 2 countries, instead of just 1 since both people speak khmer and share the same culture ? thanks
QUOTE (Thay_ @ Apr 30 2004, 10:37 PM)
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Apr 30 2004, 04:25 PM)
I doubt there will be a khmer krome in the recent future, why?
Saigon is the heart of Vietnam right now (hanoi is just a political city), and there are more than 7 million vietnamese living just in this metropolitan area, not counting the recent building suburban area in south and east of saigon
Second, Cambodians ethnics are the second largest minority in south vietnam behind chinese which is about 1.3 million.
Third, Cambodia itself is struggling with poverty.
Fourth, Cambodian American population is not that significant.
Face the reality.
Saigon is the heart of Vietnam right now (hanoi is just a political city), and there are more than 7 million vietnamese living just in this metropolitan area, not counting the recent building suburban area in south and east of saigon
Second, Cambodians ethnics are the second largest minority in south vietnam behind chinese which is about 1.3 million.
Third, Cambodia itself is struggling with poverty.
Fourth, Cambodian American population is not that significant.
Face the reality.
Again, you are incorrect. Khmer Krom will always be in the future. We will exist for as long as you exist. Do not assume my friend, if you lived long enough to see the future, then you future will be too big to see. You can elimate Khmer Krom, you should face the fact yourself.
As for the matter of our land, we will never give up. We will always fight for our freedom unlike other who just yap about other people fighting for freedom. Until then, be the victim and understand the history of your own, don't yap.
Do not underestimate to the future, what power lies in the future is not your to determine.
WTF? i understand my vietnamese history
Why do you have to comment that.I'm just stating the facts, and you're just stating your dream.
yo man , im still waiting for the khmer krom to take south Vietnam back !! wish u guys luck !! hahahaha 
QUOTE (vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe @ May 1 2004, 11:50 AM)
yo man , im still waiting for the khmer krom to take south Vietnam back !! wish u guys luck !! hahahaha
At that time, you will be flight as a dust in the air...It never returns back...
RockHeart.
:genius:
QUOTE (supernovasp @ May 1 2004, 10:26 AM)
WTF? i understand my vietnamese history Why do you have to comment that.
I'm just stating the facts, and you're just stating your dream.
Why do you have to comment that.I'm just stating the facts, and you're just stating your dream.
WTF? It is nothing TF. You stating your so called fact from your dream. Unless you claimed your government of trying to elimate us all, then make your claimed. Millions of Khmer Krom around the world my friend. You can't eliminate us, as for your waiting of us fighting for our land back, keep waiting, it will coming soon.
Don't ever look down on a human race. It is not a statement of dream, it is a matter of fact.
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 2 2004, 10:52 AM)
Millions of Khmer Krom around the world my friend. You can't eliminate us, as for your waiting of us fighting for our land back, keep waiting, it will coming soon.
Don't ever look down on a human race. It is not a statement of dream, it is a matter of fact.
Don't ever look down on a human race. It is not a statement of dream, it is a matter of fact.
Thay, the whole Khmer population in the US is around 200,000 if I'm not mistaken. What do you base on, to state that the KHMER KROM population around the world is in the millions ?
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 2 2004, 10:52 AM)
QUOTE (supernovasp @ May 1 2004, 10:26 AM)
WTF? i understand my vietnamese history Why do you have to comment that.
I'm just stating the facts, and you're just stating your dream.
Why do you have to comment that.I'm just stating the facts, and you're just stating your dream.
WTF? It is nothing TF. You stating your so called fact from your dream. Unless you claimed your government of trying to elimate us all, then make your claimed. Millions of Khmer Krom around the world my friend. You can't eliminate us, as for your waiting of us fighting for our land back, keep waiting, it will coming soon.
Don't ever look down on a human race. It is not a statement of dream, it is a matter of fact.
I got my source of khmer ethnics in vietnam from ethnologue.com
[QUOTE]At that time, you will be flight as a dust in the air...It never returns back...[QUOTE] omg !! man , cant wait until that day and btw i said good luck man , u should say thank to me , wtf yo !! ur rude 
QUOTE (tattra @ May 2 2004, 12:24 PM)
Thay, the whole Khmer population in the US is around 200,000 if I'm not mistaken. What do you base on, to state that the KHMER KROM population around the world is in the millions ?
The US alone does not count that our population are small. I agree that your population are bigger than us Khmer Krom. The fact that supernovs.. said that our "I doubt there will be a khmer krome in the recent future, why?" is incorrect. Khmer Krom will never lost our origin. Even if our population are small, we will survive. As for the matter of our land, if peace don't get us no where. Our last resort will be arm. Keep your laughing, when time come, do not look at us and said that we are terror.
Khmer Krom Pride,
Thay
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 3 2004, 08:46 AM)
QUOTE (tattra @ May 2 2004, 12:24 PM)
Thay, the whole Khmer population in the US is around 200,000 if I'm not mistaken. What do you base on, to state that the KHMER KROM population around the world is in the millions ?
The US alone does not count that our population are small. I agree that your population are bigger than us Khmer Krom. The fact that supernovs.. said that our "I doubt there will be a khmer krome in the recent future, why?" is incorrect. Khmer Krom will never lost our origin. Even if our population are small, we will survive. As for the matter of our land, if peace don't get us no where. Our last resort will be arm. Keep your laughing, when time come, do not look at us and said that we are terror.
Khmer Krom Pride,
Thay
There was a Khmer Krom but now it only exists in Cambodian people's hearts and memories.
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 3 2004, 08:46 AM)
QUOTE (tattra @ May 2 2004, 12:24 PM)
Thay, the whole Khmer population in the US is around 200,000 if I'm not mistaken. What do you base on, to state that the KHMER KROM population around the world is in the millions ?
The US alone does not count that our population are small. I agree that your population are bigger than us Khmer Krom. The fact that supernovs.. said that our "I doubt there will be a khmer krome in the recent future, why?" is incorrect. Khmer Krom will never lost our origin. Even if our population are small, we will survive. As for the matter of our land, if peace don't get us no where. Our last resort will be arm. Keep your laughing, when time come, do not look at us and said that we are terror.
Khmer Krom Pride,
Thay
Thay, I've neither expressed any desire to listen to your idea and your plan of survival and getting southern Vietnam back to your people. Nor have I really cared about the conversation between you and supernova. Nor have I been laughing at anything as you suggested.
ALL I'm interested in is some HARD PROOFS that back up your claim, which stated that the population of the KHMER KROM people around the world is in the millions ! (please stick to this question only)
QUOTE (tattra @ May 3 2004, 12:11 PM)
Thay, I've neither expressed any desire to listen to your idea and your plan of survival and getting southern Vietnam back to your people. Nor have I really cared about the conversation between you and supernova. Nor have I been laughing at anything as you suggested.
ALL I'm interested in is some HARD PROOFS that back up your claim, which stated that the population of the KHMER KROM people around the world is in the millions ! (please stick to this question only)
ALL I'm interested in is some HARD PROOFS that back up your claim, which stated that the population of the KHMER KROM people around the world is in the millions ! (please stick to this question only)
I do have my proof, but then again, since it came from the source of my people, you people denied. Why do I border?
http://www.khmerkrom.org/en/culture.php?articleID=11.
Khmer Krom exist in memory. To your government, we are now known as "nguoi nhan toc", but around the world we are still known as Khmer Krom.
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 3 2004, 08:33 PM)
I do have my proof, but then again, since it came from the source of my people, you people denied. Why do I border?
http://www.khmerkrom.org/en/culture.php?articleID=11.
Khmer Krom exist in memory. To your government, we are now known as "nguoi nhan toc", but around the world we are still known as Khmer Krom.
http://www.khmerkrom.org/en/culture.php?articleID=11.
Khmer Krom exist in memory. To your government, we are now known as "nguoi nhan toc", but around the world we are still known as Khmer Krom.
The reason I asked you the question was because I thought you meant there're millions of Khmer Krom people living around the world outside of Vietnam. I didn't know you counted Vietnam, just a misunderstanding then. Thanks for your response.
I'm sure Kampuchea Krom and its people are in your heart and mind, they should be.
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 3 2004, 08:33 PM)
QUOTE (tattra @ May 3 2004, 12:11 PM)
Thay, I've neither expressed any desire to listen to your idea and your plan of survival and getting southern Vietnam back to your people. Nor have I really cared about the conversation between you and supernova. Nor have I been laughing at anything as you suggested.
ALL I'm interested in is some HARD PROOFS that back up your claim, which stated that the population of the KHMER KROM people around the world is in the millions ! (please stick to this question only)
ALL I'm interested in is some HARD PROOFS that back up your claim, which stated that the population of the KHMER KROM people around the world is in the millions ! (please stick to this question only)
I do have my proof, but then again, since it came from the source of my people, you people denied. Why do I border?
http://www.khmerkrom.org/en/culture.php?articleID=11.
Khmer Krom exist in memory. To your government, we are now known as "nguoi nhan toc", but around the world we are still known as Khmer Krom.
i dont think www.khmerkrom.org is very credible..that site has some crazy @$$ theories..if you can give me one american source that say khmerkrom has 8 million people i will believe you in a heart beat...i was just in vietnam 5 months ago..and i could tell you this...i dont think there are 8 million cambodians living there..
QUOTE (sailador @ May 4 2004, 01:19 AM)
i dont think www.khmerkrom.org is very credible..that site has some crazy @$$ theories..if you can give me one american source that say khmerkrom has 8 million people i will believe you in a heart beat...i was just in vietnam 5 months ago..and i could tell you this...i dont think there are 8 million cambodians living there..
Do you truly belief that VC would tell the truth to the American or other outsider? Your source say 600,000, my say 8,000,000. Who to belief? Would you belief that the orignator of the land is only 600,000 in SV? Anyway, I don't want to waste my time arguing this topic.
This topic is about Khmer Krom future, and Khmer Krom future is to defend and fight for our people freedom. If want to discourage us, it is at your will.
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don't want to talk about how to take the land back from viets or if/when that'd happen, just want to know why some khmers want 2 countries, instead of just 1 since both people speak khmer and share the same culture ? thanks
To me, there is only one Kampuchea. But my guess to your question is maybe to prevent any more Pol Pot. My theory, two Kampuchea, if one fall to such thing as Pol Pot regiem, the other will defend. However, it is not a good idea. Unity is always the best thing.
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I'm sure Kampuchea Krom and its people are in your heart and mind, they should be.
Just like your people memory of VC, WE Khmer Krom still have our. It is the job of the people to keep the history alive and continue to defend and fight for freedom.
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 4 2004, 09:36 PM)
QUOTE (sailador @ May 4 2004, 01:19 AM)
i dont think www.khmerkrom.org is very credible..that site has some crazy @$$ theories..if you can give me one american source that say khmerkrom has 8 million people i will believe you in a heart beat...i was just in vietnam 5 months ago..and i could tell you this...i dont think there are 8 million cambodians living there..
Do you truly belief that VC would tell the truth to the American or other outsider? Your source say 600,000, my say 8,000,000. Who to belief? Would you belief that the orignator of the land is only 600,000 in SV? Anyway, I don't want to waste my time arguing this topic.
This topic is about Khmer Krom future, and Khmer Krom future is to defend and fight for our people freedom. If want to discourage us, it is at your will.
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don't want to talk about how to take the land back from viets or if/when that'd happen, just want to know why some khmers want 2 countries, instead of just 1 since both people speak khmer and share the same culture ? thanks
To me, there is only one Kampuchea. But my guess to your question is maybe to prevent any more Pol Pot. My theory, two Kampuchea, if one fall to such thing as Pol Pot regiem, the other will defend. However, it is not a good idea. Unity is always the best thing.
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I'm sure Kampuchea Krom and its people are in your heart and mind, they should be.
Just like your people memory of VC, WE Khmer Krom still have our. It is the job of the people to keep the history alive and continue to defend and fight for freedom.
you still havent answer my question yet...you still havent give me one single american source..wait..i make it even easier..give me one single source (besides khmer.org or any cambodian sites) that states the khmerkrom in vietnam is in the 8 millions range...all you need is one single source..and i will believe you
QUOTE (sailador @ May 4 2004, 11:09 PM)
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 4 2004, 09:36 PM)
QUOTE (sailador @ May 4 2004, 01:19 AM)
i dont think www.khmerkrom.org is very credible..that site has some crazy @$$ theories..if you can give me one american source that say khmerkrom has 8 million people i will believe you in a heart beat...i was just in vietnam 5 months ago..and i could tell you this...i dont think there are 8 million cambodians living there..
Do you truly belief that VC would tell the truth to the American or other outsider? Your source say 600,000, my say 8,000,000. Who to belief? Would you belief that the orignator of the land is only 600,000 in SV? Anyway, I don't want to waste my time arguing this topic.
This topic is about Khmer Krom future, and Khmer Krom future is to defend and fight for our people freedom. If want to discourage us, it is at your will.
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don't want to talk about how to take the land back from viets or if/when that'd happen, just want to know why some khmers want 2 countries, instead of just 1 since both people speak khmer and share the same culture ? thanks
To me, there is only one Kampuchea. But my guess to your question is maybe to prevent any more Pol Pot. My theory, two Kampuchea, if one fall to such thing as Pol Pot regiem, the other will defend. However, it is not a good idea. Unity is always the best thing.
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I'm sure Kampuchea Krom and its people are in your heart and mind, they should be.
Just like your people memory of VC, WE Khmer Krom still have our. It is the job of the people to keep the history alive and continue to defend and fight for freedom.
you still havent answer my question yet...you still havent give me one single american source..wait..i make it even easier..give me one single source (besides khmer.org or any cambodian sites) that states the khmerkrom in vietnam is in the 8 millions range...all you need is one single source..and i will believe you
Like I said, only the people know its population. You belief what you belief, I'll belief mine.
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 4 2004, 10:26 PM)
QUOTE (sailador @ May 4 2004, 11:09 PM)
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 4 2004, 09:36 PM)
QUOTE (sailador @ May 4 2004, 01:19 AM)
i dont think www.khmerkrom.org is very credible..that site has some crazy @$$ theories..if you can give me one american source that say khmerkrom has 8 million people i will believe you in a heart beat...i was just in vietnam 5 months ago..and i could tell you this...i dont think there are 8 million cambodians living there..
Do you truly belief that VC would tell the truth to the American or other outsider? Your source say 600,000, my say 8,000,000. Who to belief? Would you belief that the orignator of the land is only 600,000 in SV? Anyway, I don't want to waste my time arguing this topic.
This topic is about Khmer Krom future, and Khmer Krom future is to defend and fight for our people freedom. If want to discourage us, it is at your will.
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don't want to talk about how to take the land back from viets or if/when that'd happen, just want to know why some khmers want 2 countries, instead of just 1 since both people speak khmer and share the same culture ? thanks
To me, there is only one Kampuchea. But my guess to your question is maybe to prevent any more Pol Pot. My theory, two Kampuchea, if one fall to such thing as Pol Pot regiem, the other will defend. However, it is not a good idea. Unity is always the best thing.
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I'm sure Kampuchea Krom and its people are in your heart and mind, they should be.
Just like your people memory of VC, WE Khmer Krom still have our. It is the job of the people to keep the history alive and continue to defend and fight for freedom.
you still havent answer my question yet...you still havent give me one single american source..wait..i make it even easier..give me one single source (besides khmer.org or any cambodian sites) that states the khmerkrom in vietnam is in the 8 millions range...all you need is one single source..and i will believe you
Like I said, only the people know its population. You belief what you belief, I'll belief mine.
Not when your belief is totally unfounded. If what you're saying is right then half of the Mekong delta population would be Cambodian, which is not true.
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 4 2004, 10:26 PM)
QUOTE (sailador @ May 4 2004, 11:09 PM)
QUOTE (Thay_ @ May 4 2004, 09:36 PM)
QUOTE (sailador @ May 4 2004, 01:19 AM)
i dont think www.khmerkrom.org is very credible..that site has some crazy @$$ theories..if you can give me one american source that say khmerkrom has 8 million people i will believe you in a heart beat...i was just in vietnam 5 months ago..and i could tell you this...i dont think there are 8 million cambodians living there..
Do you truly belief that VC would tell the truth to the American or other outsider? Your source say 600,000, my say 8,000,000. Who to belief? Would you belief that the orignator of the land is only 600,000 in SV? Anyway, I don't want to waste my time arguing this topic.
This topic is about Khmer Krom future, and Khmer Krom future is to defend and fight for our people freedom. If want to discourage us, it is at your will.
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don't want to talk about how to take the land back from viets or if/when that'd happen, just want to know why some khmers want 2 countries, instead of just 1 since both people speak khmer and share the same culture ? thanks
To me, there is only one Kampuchea. But my guess to your question is maybe to prevent any more Pol Pot. My theory, two Kampuchea, if one fall to such thing as Pol Pot regiem, the other will defend. However, it is not a good idea. Unity is always the best thing.
QUOTE
I'm sure Kampuchea Krom and its people are in your heart and mind, they should be.
Just like your people memory of VC, WE Khmer Krom still have our. It is the job of the people to keep the history alive and continue to defend and fight for freedom.
you still havent answer my question yet...you still havent give me one single american source..wait..i make it even easier..give me one single source (besides khmer.org or any cambodian sites) that states the khmerkrom in vietnam is in the 8 millions range...all you need is one single source..and i will believe you
Like I said, only the people know its population. You belief what you belief, I'll belief mine.
like i said i was in vietnam about 5 months ago..i would say 1 out of 10 people there were cambodians...so i really doubt there are 8 millions cambodians in Vietnam....so believe what you want Thay but the fact is your people will never get saigon back...i will wait for the day that Your People Declare war on Vietnam..when that happen..i will definitely Pray for the survival of your country
QUOTE (sailador @ May 4 2004, 10:36 PM)
so believe what you want Thay but the fact is your people will never get saigon back...
You are somewhat correct, Getting Saigon is tough, and I don't think Khmer Krom should be thinking about Saigon. But don't be suprised when Khmer Krom starts carving out other peices of land in South Vietnam, hahaha.
QUOTE
you still havent answer my question yet...you still havent give me one single american source
American source huh? Do you feel that Americans (dominated by caucasians) would have more knowledge than Asians about Asia? They don't give a damn about any other countries unless it BENEFITS themselves! So if they want to change or leave something out of history, THEY WILL! They used Khmer territory to test their 500,00 bombs. They show sympathy but leave out what they crucially did in Cambodia. And Cambodia is as small as a state in the U.S. I'm saying history written by westerners are going to have higher chance of being inaccurate. Khmerkrom.com or other Khmer sites are way more informative than what WESTERNERS "think" they know.
I would way more rather listen to a Vietnamese or Khmer explaining history and routes of Vietnam/Cambodia then listen to what Westerners THINK they know. I have to say I'd be PATHETIC if I only believed westerners thoughts about MY country. It's like Vietnamese believing what I say about Vietnam, when 1) it doesnt interest me cuz im not vietnamese so I dont know it precisely ( no offense). 2) It's coming from a non-vietnamese person who can just lie to benefit one-self's country.
[QUOTE=Nam Quoc Son Ha,May 4 2004, 11:29 PM] [QUOTE=Thay_,May 4 2004, 10:26 PM] [QUOTE=sailador,May 4 2004, 11:09 PM] [QUOTE=Thay_,May 4 2004, 09:36 PM] [QUOTE=sailador,May 4 2004, 01:19 AM] i dont think www.khmerkrom.org is very credible..that site has some crazy @$$ theories..if you can give me one american source that say khmerkrom has 8 million people i will believe you in a heart beat...i was just in vietnam 5 months ago..and i could tell you this...i dont think there are 8 million cambodians living there.. [/QUOTE]
Do you truly belief that VC would tell the truth to the American or other outsider? Your source say 600,000, my say 8,000,000. Who to belief? Would you belief that the orignator of the land is only 600,000 in SV? Anyway, I don't want to waste my time arguing this topic.
This topic is about Khmer Krom future, and Khmer Krom future is to defend and fight for our people freedom. If want to discourage us, it is at your will.
[QUOTE] don't want to talk about how to take the land back from viets or if/when that'd happen, just want to know why some khmers want 2 countries, instead of just 1 since both people speak khmer and share the same culture ? thanks [/QUOTE]
To me, there is only one Kampuchea. But my guess to your question is maybe to prevent any more Pol Pot. My theory, two Kampuchea, if one fall to such thing as Pol Pot regiem, the other will defend. However, it is not a good idea. Unity is always the best thing.
[QUOTE]I'm sure Kampuchea Krom and its people are in your heart and mind, they should be.[/QUOTE]
Just like your people memory of VC, WE Khmer Krom still have our. It is the job of the people to keep the history alive and continue to defend and fight for freedom. [/QUOTE]
you still havent answer my question yet...you still havent give me one single american source..wait..i make it even easier..give me one single source (besides khmer.org or any cambodian sites) that states the khmerkrom in vietnam is in the 8 millions range...all you need is one single source..and i will believe you [/QUOTE]
Like I said, only the people know its population. You belief what you belief, I'll belief mine. [/QUOTE]
Not when your belief is totally unfounded. If what you're saying is right then half of the Mekong delta population would be Cambodian, which is not true. [/QUOTE]
True are not, it is your to choose. If there only 600,000 Khmer Krom living in their own land what happen to others? Do you count Khmer Krom have been wed to Viets as Viets or Khmer Krom?
[QUOTElike i said i was in vietnam about 5 months ago..i would say 1 out of 10 people there were cambodians...so i really doubt there are 8 millions cambodians in Vietnam....so believe what you want Thay but the fact is your people will never get saigon back...i will wait for the day that Your People Declare war on Vietnam..when that happen..i will definitely Pray for the survival of your country [/QUOTE]
What part do you visited? Ho Chi Minh City?
Do you truly belief that VC would tell the truth to the American or other outsider? Your source say 600,000, my say 8,000,000. Who to belief? Would you belief that the orignator of the land is only 600,000 in SV? Anyway, I don't want to waste my time arguing this topic.
This topic is about Khmer Krom future, and Khmer Krom future is to defend and fight for our people freedom. If want to discourage us, it is at your will.
[QUOTE] don't want to talk about how to take the land back from viets or if/when that'd happen, just want to know why some khmers want 2 countries, instead of just 1 since both people speak khmer and share the same culture ? thanks [/QUOTE]
To me, there is only one Kampuchea. But my guess to your question is maybe to prevent any more Pol Pot. My theory, two Kampuchea, if one fall to such thing as Pol Pot regiem, the other will defend. However, it is not a good idea. Unity is always the best thing.
[QUOTE]I'm sure Kampuchea Krom and its people are in your heart and mind, they should be.[/QUOTE]
Just like your people memory of VC, WE Khmer Krom still have our. It is the job of the people to keep the history alive and continue to defend and fight for freedom. [/QUOTE]
you still havent answer my question yet...you still havent give me one single american source..wait..i make it even easier..give me one single source (besides khmer.org or any cambodian sites) that states the khmerkrom in vietnam is in the 8 millions range...all you need is one single source..and i will believe you [/QUOTE]
Like I said, only the people know its population. You belief what you belief, I'll belief mine. [/QUOTE]
Not when your belief is totally unfounded. If what you're saying is right then half of the Mekong delta population would be Cambodian, which is not true. [/QUOTE]
True are not, it is your to choose. If there only 600,000 Khmer Krom living in their own land what happen to others? Do you count Khmer Krom have been wed to Viets as Viets or Khmer Krom?
[QUOTElike i said i was in vietnam about 5 months ago..i would say 1 out of 10 people there were cambodians...so i really doubt there are 8 millions cambodians in Vietnam....so believe what you want Thay but the fact is your people will never get saigon back...i will wait for the day that Your People Declare war on Vietnam..when that happen..i will definitely Pray for the survival of your country [/QUOTE]
What part do you visited? Ho Chi Minh City?
[quote=Thay_,May 5 2004, 09:13 AM] [QUOTE=Nam Quoc Son Ha,May 4 2004, 11:29 PM] [QUOTE=Thay_,May 4 2004, 10:26 PM] [QUOTE=sailador,May 4 2004, 11:09 PM] [QUOTE=Thay_,May 4 2004, 09:36 PM] [QUOTE=sailador,May 4 2004, 01:19 AM] i dont think www.khmerkrom.org is very credible..that site has some crazy @$$ theories..if you can give me one american source that say khmerkrom has 8 million people i will believe you in a heart beat...i was just in vietnam 5 months ago..and i could tell you this...i dont think there are 8 million cambodians living there.. [/QUOTE]
Do you truly belief that VC would tell the truth to the American or other outsider? Your source say 600,000, my say 8,000,000. Who to belief? Would you belief that the orignator of the land is only 600,000 in SV? Anyway, I don't want to waste my time arguing this topic.
This topic is about Khmer Krom future, and Khmer Krom future is to defend and fight for our people freedom. If want to discourage us, it is at your will.
[QUOTE] don't want to talk about how to take the land back from viets or if/when that'd happen, just want to know why some khmers want 2 countries, instead of just 1 since both people speak khmer and share the same culture ? thanks [/QUOTE]
To me, there is only one Kampuchea. But my guess to your question is maybe to prevent any more Pol Pot. My theory, two Kampuchea, if one fall to such thing as Pol Pot regiem, the other will defend. However, it is not a good idea. Unity is always the best thing.
[QUOTE]I'm sure Kampuchea Krom and its people are in your heart and mind, they should be.[/QUOTE]
Just like your people memory of VC, WE Khmer Krom still have our. It is the job of the people to keep the history alive and continue to defend and fight for freedom. [/QUOTE]
you still havent answer my question yet...you still havent give me one single american source..wait..i make it even easier..give me one single source (besides khmer.org or any cambodian sites) that states the khmerkrom in vietnam is in the 8 millions range...all you need is one single source..and i will believe you [/QUOTE]
Like I said, only the people know its population. You belief what you belief, I'll belief mine. [/QUOTE]
Not when your belief is totally unfounded. If what you're saying is right then half of the Mekong delta population would be Cambodian, which is not true. [/QUOTE]
True are not, it is your to choose. If there only 600,000 Khmer Krom living in their own land what happen to others? Do you count Khmer Krom have been wed to Viets as Viets or Khmer Krom?
[QUOTElike i said i was in vietnam about 5 months ago..i would say 1 out of 10 people there were cambodians...so i really doubt there are 8 millions cambodians in Vietnam....so believe what you want Thay but the fact is your people will never get saigon back...i will wait for the day that Your People Declare war on Vietnam..when that happen..i will definitely Pray for the survival of your country [/QUOTE]
What part do you visited? Ho Chi Minh City? [/quote]
district 6, 7, 9 and 9...cho benh thanh and cholon
Do you truly belief that VC would tell the truth to the American or other outsider? Your source say 600,000, my say 8,000,000. Who to belief? Would you belief that the orignator of the land is only 600,000 in SV? Anyway, I don't want to waste my time arguing this topic.
This topic is about Khmer Krom future, and Khmer Krom future is to defend and fight for our people freedom. If want to discourage us, it is at your will.
[QUOTE] don't want to talk about how to take the land back from viets or if/when that'd happen, just want to know why some khmers want 2 countries, instead of just 1 since both people speak khmer and share the same culture ? thanks [/QUOTE]
To me, there is only one Kampuchea. But my guess to your question is maybe to prevent any more Pol Pot. My theory, two Kampuchea, if one fall to such thing as Pol Pot regiem, the other will defend. However, it is not a good idea. Unity is always the best thing.
[QUOTE]I'm sure Kampuchea Krom and its people are in your heart and mind, they should be.[/QUOTE]
Just like your people memory of VC, WE Khmer Krom still have our. It is the job of the people to keep the history alive and continue to defend and fight for freedom. [/QUOTE]
you still havent answer my question yet...you still havent give me one single american source..wait..i make it even easier..give me one single source (besides khmer.org or any cambodian sites) that states the khmerkrom in vietnam is in the 8 millions range...all you need is one single source..and i will believe you [/QUOTE]
Like I said, only the people know its population. You belief what you belief, I'll belief mine. [/QUOTE]
Not when your belief is totally unfounded. If what you're saying is right then half of the Mekong delta population would be Cambodian, which is not true. [/QUOTE]
True are not, it is your to choose. If there only 600,000 Khmer Krom living in their own land what happen to others? Do you count Khmer Krom have been wed to Viets as Viets or Khmer Krom?
[QUOTElike i said i was in vietnam about 5 months ago..i would say 1 out of 10 people there were cambodians...so i really doubt there are 8 millions cambodians in Vietnam....so believe what you want Thay but the fact is your people will never get saigon back...i will wait for the day that Your People Declare war on Vietnam..when that happen..i will definitely Pray for the survival of your country [/QUOTE]
What part do you visited? Ho Chi Minh City? [/quote]
district 6, 7, 9 and 9...cho benh thanh and cholon
After we all khmers liberate the Sai gon, then the Ha noi will have a problem...Maybe the Khmers will take over all!!...You will see it coming soon!!! 
...
RockHeart.
...RockHeart.
QUOTE (RockHeart @ May 5 2004, 10:10 PM)
After we all khmers liberate the Sai gon, then the Ha noi will have a problem...Maybe the Khmers will take over all!!...You will see it coming soon!!! ...
RockHeart.
...RockHeart.
email me when you guys start the invasion ok?
Ok! It has no problem...
RockHeart.
RockHeart.
QUOTE (RockHeart @ May 5 2004, 10:10 PM)
After we all khmers liberate the Sai gon, then the Ha noi will have a problem...Maybe the Khmers will take over all!!...You will see it coming soon!!! ...
RockHeart.
...RockHeart.
How are you, Rock ?
I am very well!! And i welcome to see you Tattra!!! Then we will have a short conversation is just between you and me!!
Oh! How are you Tattra??
RockHeart.
:genius:
Oh! How are you Tattra??
RockHeart.
:genius:
QUOTE (RockHeart @ May 6 2004, 11:17 PM)
I am very well!! And i welcome to see you Tattra!!! Then we will have a short conversation is just between you and me!!
Oh! How are you Tattra??
RockHeart.
:genius:
Oh! How are you Tattra??
RockHeart.
:genius:
Go ahead Rock. I'm all ears !
QUOTE (tattra @ May 7 2004, 08:15 AM)
QUOTE (RockHeart @ May 6 2004, 11:17 PM)
I am very well!! And i welcome to see you Tattra!!! Then we will have a short conversation is just between you and me!!
Oh! How are you Tattra??
RockHeart.
:genius:
Oh! How are you Tattra??
RockHeart.
:genius:
Go ahead Rock. I'm all ears !
Are you confidential to have a political issue of conversation with Me?? Tattra..Don't be Cry to see the question asking of mine!!
RockHeart.
:genius:
QUOTE (RockHeart @ May 7 2004, 08:54 AM)
Are you confidential to have a political issue of conversation with Me?? Tattra..Don't be Cry to see the question asking of mine!!
RockHeart.
:genius:
RockHeart.
:genius:
Rock, I don't know if I'm confident enough to have that kind of discussion with you, and I must admit that I'd cried several times seeing your questions before. But anyway, you have to say what you have to say .....
QUOTE (mayura @ May 5 2004, 03:02 AM)
QUOTE
you still havent answer my question yet...you still havent give me one single american source
American source huh? Do you feel that Americans (dominated by caucasians) would have more knowledge than Asians about Asia? They don't give a damn about any other countries unless it BENEFITS themselves! So if they want to change or leave something out of history, THEY WILL! They used Khmer territory to test their 500,00 bombs. They show sympathy but leave out what they crucially did in Cambodia. And Cambodia is as small as a state in the U.S. I'm saying history written by westerners are going to have higher chance of being inaccurate. Khmerkrom.com or other Khmer sites are way more informative than what WESTERNERS "think" they know.
I would way more rather listen to a Vietnamese or Khmer explaining history and routes of Vietnam/Cambodia then listen to what Westerners THINK they know. I have to say I'd be PATHETIC if I only believed westerners thoughts about MY country. It's like Vietnamese believing what I say about Vietnam, when 1) it doesnt interest me cuz im not vietnamese so I dont know it precisely ( no offense). 2) It's coming from a non-vietnamese person who can just lie to benefit one-self's country.
Haha sorry but I rather trust a third party information rather than trust khmerkrome or vietnamese informations.
Ethnologue.com said that the largest minority in Vietnam is Chinese Han which only about 1 and a half million
QUOTE (supernovasp @ May 7 2004, 02:37 PM)
QUOTE (mayura @ May 5 2004, 03:02 AM)
QUOTE
you still havent answer my question yet...you still havent give me one single american source
American source huh? Do you feel that Americans (dominated by caucasians) would have more knowledge than Asians about Asia? They don't give a damn about any other countries unless it BENEFITS themselves! So if they want to change or leave something out of history, THEY WILL! They used Khmer territory to test their 500,00 bombs. They show sympathy but leave out what they crucially did in Cambodia. And Cambodia is as small as a state in the U.S. I'm saying history written by westerners are going to have higher chance of being inaccurate. Khmerkrom.com or other Khmer sites are way more informative than what WESTERNERS "think" they know.
I would way more rather listen to a Vietnamese or Khmer explaining history and routes of Vietnam/Cambodia then listen to what Westerners THINK they know. I have to say I'd be PATHETIC if I only believed westerners thoughts about MY country. It's like Vietnamese believing what I say about Vietnam, when 1) it doesnt interest me cuz im not vietnamese so I dont know it precisely ( no offense). 2) It's coming from a non-vietnamese person who can just lie to benefit one-self's country.
Haha sorry but I rather trust a third party information rather than trust khmerkrome or vietnamese informations.
Ethnologue.com said that the largest minority in Vietnam is Chinese Han which only about 1 and a half million
Remember Khmerkrom.org and Krhmerkrom.net is equivalent to Harvard and Yale...full of great Minds there at that two sites..they all get their theories from watching X Files and Buffy the Vampires Slayer
QUOTE (sailador @ May 7 2004, 02:52 PM)
Remember Khmerkrom.org and Krhmerkrom.net is equivalent to Harvard and Yale...full of great Minds there at that two sites..they all get their theories from watching X Files and Buffy the Vampires Slayer
Oh yeah, I remember, scholars at Yale and Harvard cannot compete with those Khmers.
And yeah, those who think that Khmers can get one inch of south Vietnam back or Saigon back, be prepared to give up one mile of land for every inch of Viet land you polluted.
FKR, go and copy that and paste it in your beloved intelligent forum.
You are all keeping to continued talking about Land and Khmers...for you all entirelives!!! You couldn't describe any topics are better than that, could you??
Please don't make the noise is too loud, let the Angels have a well sleep!!
RockHeart.
:genius:
Please don't make the noise is too loud, let the Angels have a well sleep!!
RockHeart.
:genius:
QUOTE (RockHeart @ May 7 2004, 04:11 PM)
You are all keeping to continued talking about Land and Khmers...for you all entirelives!!! You couldn't describe any topics are better than that, could you??
Please don't make the noise is too loud, let the Angels have a well sleep!!
RockHeart.
:genius:
Please don't make the noise is too loud, let the Angels have a well sleep!!
RockHeart.
:genius:
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ May 7 2004, 03:03 PM)
QUOTE (sailador @ May 7 2004, 02:52 PM)
Remember Khmerkrom.org and Krhmerkrom.net is equivalent to Harvard and Yale...full of great Minds there at that two sites..they all get their theories from watching X Files and Buffy the Vampires Slayer
Oh yeah, I remember, scholars at Yale and Harvard cannot compete with those Khmers.
And yeah, those who think that Khmers can get one inch of south Vietnam back or Saigon back, be prepared to give up one mile of land for every inch of Viet land you polluted.
FKR, go and copy that and paste it in your beloved intelligent forum.
haha, i dont think Khmers will launch an attack on Saigon or even the country sides of Vietnam in the next 100 years !!
You don't just say only SaiGon...You will see the KhmerPeople are going to take over the Hanoi either!! The Khmers are increase so many population around the world...The Khmer Population are totally closer to 8.9 millions people, now. Thats a great enough resistance for battle with the enemies and smite them out in the further!!
RockHeart.
RockHeart.
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