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Now among few countries in the world becoming better place with relatively high standard quality life to live.

Excript:
Malaysia has a real opportunity to become a preferred destination ..... in Asia because English is widely spoken, the weather is attractive to many people, the cost of living is relatively low and the people are very warm and hospitable.

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"Well governed and well managed"
Let me give 2 examples from this week of how wrong you are.

The minister of roads (sorry I don't know his actual ministry) complained that TV3 was wrong in interviewing people about the poor quality of roads in KL and then broadcasting it. In an amazingly bad example of governing and management he actual said people should call him directly even at 1am and he will come and look at what is wrong. He got 1000 sms.
Yesterday in KT, Bernama reports that Muslims should not celebrate Valentine's Day as it could be associated to some long forgotten invasion of a Muslim village in Spain!

Do you want me to go on?
OK
KL instead of 1 rail transit system has 3 that all run on different gauge tracks.
Putrajaya, need I explain that?
Illegal DVD CD capital of the world (ok it may not be the capital)
It runs on a "guided democracy", what the hell does that mean
There is no separation on church and state
The Bumiputra system has failed
Vision 2020 won't happen according to Dr M

More?

The cost of beer is just bloody crazy!!!

Look I love living here but am realistic, this place may be better run then Indonesia (I don't know I haven't been) but it's along way from the utopia you are constantly proclaiming.
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GDP per capita 2005 based on PPP

Malaysia is the only few countries in Asia which recently achieve 5 digit achievement (above $ 10,000) of GDP percapita based on Purchasing Power Parity.

Just few years ago Mexico, Bulgaria and Uruguay were still above Malaysia but now Malaysia overtake them.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbo...r/2004rank.html
Rank

Country

GDP - per capita

Date of Information
1
Luxembourg $ 62,700 2005 est.
2
Equatorial Guinea $ 50,200 2005 est.
3
Norway $ 42,400 2005 est.
4
United States $ 41,800 2005 est.
5
Guernsey $ 40,000 2003 est.
6
Jersey $ 40,000 2003 est.
7
British Virgin Islands $ 38,500 2004 est.
8
Hong Kong $ 36,800 2005 est.
9
Bermuda $ 36,000 2003 est.
10
Switzerland $ 35,000 2005 est.
11
Iceland $ 34,600 2005 est.
12
San Marino $ 34,600 2001 est.
13
Ireland $ 34,100 2005 est.
14
Denmark $ 33,500 2005 est.
15
Austria $ 32,900 2005 est.
16
Canada $ 32,800 2005 est.
17
Cayman Islands $ 32,300 2004 est.
18
Australia $ 32,000 2005 est.
19
Belgium $ 31,800 2005 est.
20
United Kingdom $ 30,900 2005 est.
21
Netherlands $ 30,500 2005 est.
22
Japan $ 30,400 2005 est.
23
Finland $ 30,300 2005 est.
24
France $ 29,900 2005 est.
25
Germany $ 29,700 2005 est.
26
Singapore $ 29,700 2005 est.
27
Sweden $ 29,600 2005 est.
28
United Arab Emirates $ 29,100 2005 est.
29
Isle of Man $ 28,500 2003 est.
30
Italy $ 28,300 2005 est.
31
European Union $ 28,100 2005 est.
32
Aruba $ 28,000 2002 est.
33
Gibraltar $ 27,900 2000 est.
34
Monaco $ 27,000 2000 est.
35
Andorra $ 26,800 2003 est.
36
Taiwan $ 26,700 2005 est.
37
Qatar $ 26,000 2005 est.
38
Spain $ 25,100 2005 est.
39
Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) $ 25,000 2002 est.
40
Liechtenstein $ 25,000 1999 est.
41
New Zealand $ 24,100 2005 est.
42
Brunei $ 23,600 2003 est.
43
Greece $ 22,800 2005 est.
44
Israel $ 22,200 2005 est.
45
Kuwait $ 22,100 2005 est.
46
Faroe Islands $ 22,000 2001 est.
47
Cyprus $ 21,600 NA
48
Guam $ 21,000 2000 est.
49
Slovenia $ 20,900 2005 est.
50
Bahrain $ 20,500 2005 est.
51
Korea, South $ 20,300 2005 est.
52
Greenland $ 20,000 2001 est.
53
Macau $ 19,400 2003
54
Bahamas, The $ 18,800 2005 est.
55
Malta $ 18,800 2005 est.
56
Puerto Rico $ 18,500 2005 est.
57
Portugal $ 18,400 2005 est.
58
Czech Republic $ 18,100 2005 est.
59
French Polynesia $ 17,500 2003 est.
60
Barbados $ 17,300 2005 est.
61
Virgin Islands $ 17,200 2002 est.
62
Estonia $ 16,400 2005 est.
63
Hungary $ 15,900 2005 est.
64
Slovakia $ 15,700 2005 est.
65
New Caledonia $ 15,000 2003 est.
66
Martinique $ 14,400 2003 est.
67
Lithuania $ 13,700 2005 est.
68
Argentina $ 13,600 2005 est.
69
Oman $ 13,400 2005 est.
70
Mauritius $ 13,300 2005 est.
71
Saudi Arabia $ 12,900 2005 est.
72
Latvia $ 12,800 2005 est.
73
Poland $ 12,700 2005 est.
74
Trinidad and Tobago $ 12,700 2005 est.
75
Northern Mariana Islands $ 12,500 2000 est.
76
South Africa $ 11,900 2005 est.
77
Croatia $ 11,600 2005 est.
78
Turks and Caicos Islands $ 11,500 2002 est.
79
Netherlands Antilles $ 11,400 2003 est.
80
Chile $ 11,300 2005 est.
81
Antigua and Barbuda $ 11,000 2002 est.
82
Russia $ 10,700 2005 est.
83
Malaysia $ 10,400 2005 est.
84
Botswana $ 10,100 2005 est.
85
Costa Rica $ 10,000 2005 est.
86
Mexico $ 10,000 2005 est.
87
Uruguay $ 10,000 2005 est.
88
World $ 9,300 2005 est.
89
Bulgaria $ 9,000 2005 est.
90
Palau $ 9,000 2001 est.
91
Saint Kitts and Nevis $ 8,800 2002 est.
92
Kazakhstan $ 8,700 2005 est.
93
Brazil $ 8,500 2005 est.
94
Libya $ 8,400 2005 est.
95
French Guiana $ 8,300 2003 est.
96
Romania $ 8,300 2005 est.
97
Thailand $ 8,300 2005 est.
98
Iran $ 8,100 2005 est.
99
American Samoa $ 8,000 2000 est.
100
Guadeloupe $ 7,900 2003 est.
101
Turkey $ 7,900 2005 est.
102
Seychelles $ 7,800 2002 est.
103
Namibia $ 7,800 2005 est.
104
Belarus $ 7,600 2005 est.
105
Tunisia $ 7,600 2005 est.
106
Anguilla $ 7,500 2002 est.
107
Macedonia $ 7,400 2005 est.
108
Algeria $ 7,300 2005 est.
109
Panama $ 7,300 2005 est.
110
Cyprus $ 7,135 NA
111
Colombia $ 7,100 2005 est.
112
Saint Pierre and Miquelon $ 7,000 2001 est.
113
Belize $ 6,800 2005 est.
114
Ukraine $ 6,800 2005 est.
115
Bosnia and Herzegovina $ 6,800 2005 est.
116
Dominican Republic $ 6,500 2005 est.
117
Venezuela $ 6,400 2005 est.
118
China $ 6,200 2005 est.
119
Cape Verde $ 6,200 2005 est.
120
Reunion $ 6,200 2005 est.
121
Fiji $ 6,000 2005 est.
122
Peru $ 6,000 2005 est.
123
Turkmenistan $ 5,900 2005 est.
124
Gabon $ 5,800 2005 est.
125
Samoa $ 5,600 2002 est.
126
Dominica $ 5,500 2003 est.
127
Saint Lucia $ 5,400 2002 est.
128
Swaziland $ 5,300 2005 est.
129
Armenia $ 5,100 2005 est.
130
Lebanon $ 5,100 2005 est.
131
El Salvador $ 5,100 2005 est.
132
Philippines $ 5,100 2005 est.
133
Cook Islands $ 5,000 2001 est.
134
Grenada $ 5,000 2002 est.
135
Nauru $ 5,000 2001 est.
136
Albania $ 4,900 2005 est.
137
Paraguay $ 4,900 2005 est.
138
Jordan $ 4,800 2005 est.
139
Suriname $ 4,700 2005 est.
140
Azerbaijan $ 4,600 2005 est.
141
Egypt $ 4,400 2005 est.
142
Sri Lanka $ 4,300 2005 est.
143
Guatemala $ 4,300 2005 est.
144
Jamaica $ 4,300 2005 est.
145
Morocco $ 4,300 2005 est.
146
Ecuador $ 3,900 2005 est.
147
Guyana $ 3,900 2005 est.
148
Maldives $ 3,900 2002 est.
149
Wallis and Futuna $ 3,800 2004 est.
150
Indonesia $ 3,700 2005 est.
151
Niue $ 3,600 2000 est.
152
Syria $ 3,500 2005 est.
153
Georgia $ 3,400 2005 est.
154
Montserrat $ 3,400 2002 est.
155
India $ 3,400 2005 est.
156
Iraq $ 3,400 2005 est.
157
Cuba $ 3,300 2005 est.
158
Lesotho $ 3,300 2005 est.
159
Vietnam $ 3,000 2005 est.
160
Honduras $ 2,900 2005 est.
161
Vanuatu $ 2,900 2003 est.
162
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines $ 2,900 2002 est.
163
Nicaragua $ 2,800 2005 est.
164
Bolivia $ 2,700 2005 est.
165
Mayotte $ 2,600 2003 est.
166
Serbia and Montenegro $ 2,600 2005 est.
167
Angola $ 2,500 2005 est.
168
Saint Helena $ 2,500 1998 est.
169
Ghana $ 2,500 2005 est.
170
Pakistan $ 2,400 2005 est.
171
Papua New Guinea $ 2,400 2005 est.
172
Tonga $ 2,300 2002 est.
173
Guinea $ 2,200 2005 est.
174
Mongolia $ 2,200 2005 est.
175
Bangladesh $ 2,100 2005 est.
176
Cambodia $ 2,100 2005 est.
177
Sudan $ 2,100 2005 est.
178
Moldova $ 2,100 2005 est.
179
Cameroon $ 2,000 2005 est.
180
Micronesia, Federated States of $ 2,000 2002 est.
181
Mauritania $ 2,000 2005 est.
182
Chad $ 1,900 2005 est.
183
Laos $ 1,900 2005 est.
184
Uzbekistan $ 1,900 2005 est.
185
Zimbabwe $ 1,900 2005 est.
186
Gambia, The $ 1,900 2005 est.
187
Burma $ 1,800 2005 est.
188
Senegal $ 1,800 2005 est.
189
Korea, North $ 1,800 2005 est.
190
Kyrgyzstan $ 1,800 2005 est.
191
Solomon Islands $ 1,700 2002 est.
192
Uganda $ 1,700 2005 est.
193
Haiti $ 1,600 2005 est.
194
Togo $ 1,600 2005 est.
195
Marshall Islands $ 1,600 2001 est.
196
Nepal $ 1,500 2005 est.
197
Bhutan $ 1,400 2003 est.
198
Cote d'Ivoire $ 1,400 2005 est.
199
Djibouti $ 1,300 2002 est.
200
Rwanda $ 1,300 2005 est.
201
Mozambique $ 1,300 2005 est.
202
Benin $ 1,200 2005 est.
203
Central African Republic $ 1,200 2005 est.
204
Burkina Faso $ 1,200 2005 est.
205
Sao Tome and Principe $ 1,200 2003 est.
206
Tajikistan $ 1,200 2005 est.
207
Kenya $ 1,200 2005 est.
208
Tuvalu $ 1,100 2000 est.
209
West Bank $ 1,100 2003 est.
210
Eritrea $ 1,000 2005 est.
211
Mali $ 1,000 2005 est.
212
Tokelau $ 1,000 1993 est.
213
Nigeria $ 1,000 2005 est.
214
Madagascar $ 900 2005 est.
215
Zambia $ 900 2005 est.
216
Niger $ 900 2005 est.
217
Afghanistan $ 800 2004 est.
218
Sierra Leone $ 800 2005 est.
219
Yemen $ 800 2005 est.
220
Guinea-Bissau $ 800 2005 est.
221
Congo, Democratic Republic of the $ 800 2005 est.
222
Kiribati $ 800 2001 est.
223
Ethiopia $ 800 2005 est.
224
Congo, Republic of the $ 800 2005 est.
225
Burundi $ 700 2005 est.
226
Tanzania $ 700 2005 est.
227
Liberia $ 700 2005 est.
228
Comoros $ 600 2005 est.
229
Somalia $ 600 2005 est.
230
Malawi $ 600 2005 est.
231
Gaza Strip $ 600 2003 est.
232
East Timor $ 400 2004 est.
109
Wow, yet again you quote stats but have no concept as to their relevance.

These figures have nothing to do with how a country is governed or managed.

How is school going? You never answered that question.
purple
i wish i were malaysian....
malaccan
QUOTE (109 @ Feb 14 2006, 11:26 AM)
The cost of beer is just bloody crazy!!!
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Oh dear embarassedlaugh.gif

109, in case you really want to know, I believe there will NEVER be separation between the 'church and state' in Malaysia. Even the very first principle of the Rukunegara is Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan, ie Belief in God, whatever god that may be. Malaysia won't follow the Western-European model in this case. Secondly, the bumiputera policy was a necessary evil, it was a conscious decision to forego greater economic development by leaving the economic power, by trading that for greater equity amongst the majority race. Distinction has to be made between the previous absolute necessity of the policy, its mixed success and failure, to the current situation where I believe it is no longer cost-efficient to further propagate it.

The same thing that frustrates you, equally frustrates many true-blue Malaysians, those still at home as well as those of us that have gone abroad.

QUOTE (purple @ Feb 15 2006, 12:39 PM)
i wish i were malaysian....
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You keep changing your tune, girl! tongue.gif And you're Aussie anyway! Maybe I'll collect Australian PR next. Hmmm.... icon_twisted.gif
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Car Production per Capita

Malaysia is the best 3 country in Asia after Japan and Korea in car production per capita.
The good things is for Malaysia they indigenously produce, design and manufactures their own cars.
Malaysia is among few countries in the world which can design and manufactured their own car engines for their own cars.
Actually many countries on the list below just doing foreign car asembly manufacturing.
Superior! Malay build their own car and indegenously designed, developed and manufactured the engines.

Rank Country Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Belgium 90.3997 per 1,000 people
#2 Japan 67.6419 per 1,000 people
#3 Slovenia 62.9841 per 1,000 people
#4 Germany 62.1518 per 1,000 people
#5 Spain 56.1935 per 1,000 people
#6 Korea, South 54.507 per 1,000 people
#7 France 54.1377 per 1,000 people
#8 Czech Republic 43.0927 per 1,000 people
#9 Canada 41.7315 per 1,000 people
#10 Slovakia 41.5165 per 1,000 people
#11 United Kingdom 26.9357 per 1,000 people
#12 Sweden 26.4358 per 1,000 people
#13 Italy 19.3754 per 1,000 people
#14 Portugal 17.2793 per 1,000 people
#15 United States 16.9622 per 1,000 people
#16 Austria 16.0551 per 1,000 people
#17 Malaysia 15.8644 per 1,000 people
#18 Australia 15.2844 per 1,000 people
#19 Hungary 13.8142 per 1,000 people
#20 Netherlands 11.1153 per 1,000 people
#21 Taiwan 10.7015 per 1,000 people
#22 Mexico 9.04773 per 1,000 people
#23 Brazil 8.17477 per 1,000 people
#24 Finland 7.86291 per 1,000 people
#25 Poland 7.43441 per 1,000 people
#26 Russia 6.83821 per 1,000 people
#27 South Africa 6.23532 per 1,000 people
#28 Iran 4.55762 per 1,000 people
#29 Romania 2.92279 per 1,000 people
#30 Argentina 2.81603 per 1,000 people
#31 Thailand 2.64855 per 1,000 people
#32 Ukraine 1.07226 per 1,000 people
#33 Uruguay 1.04772 per 1,000 people
#34 Botswana 0.978659 per 1,000 people
#35 Serbia and Montenegro 0.948472 per 1,000 people
#36 Uzbekistan 0.845592 per 1,000 people
#37 China 0.835037 per 1,000 people
#38 India 0.6536 per 1,000 people
#39 Morocco 0.519465 per 1,000 people
#40 Philippines 0.458973 per 1,000 people
#41 Venezuela 0.457537 per 1,000 people
#42 Colombia 0.454812 per 1,000 people
#43 Chile 0.397973 per 1,000 people
#44 Egypt 0.353805 per 1,000 people
#45 Vietnam 0.144632 per 1,000 people
#46 Indonesia 0.099209 per 1,000 people
#47 Pakistan 0.0968846 per 1,000 people

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/ind_car_pro_percap
swingdoctor
QUOTE (Nusantara @ Feb 16 2006, 01:25 AM)
Malaysia is the best 3 country in Asia after Japan and Korea in car production per capita.
The good things is for Malaysia they indigenously produce, design and manufactures their own cars.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/ind_car_pro_percap
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Just because you build many cars doesn't mean that the car is good.
Firstly you have to ask is the car selling?
In Australia where the proton is cheaper the it is in Malaysia the car is not selling with or without Lotus technology.
In Malaysia as I understand it is the cheapest car for its size on the markeyyet is is still losing market share.

Finally, although priorities in life would vary from person to person, claiming that quality of life is based primarily on the standard of living is extremely one sided.
What about the the freedom to question or critisize your government without the fear of being jailed without charge, the feedom of the press or being treated like a second class citizen based solely on your race? Like any country, living in Malaysia has its good and bad points and one needs to look at the whole picture to decide that.
forrestcat
Malaysia might be better than perhaps Ghana and a ahead of some of our ASEAN neighbours, Malaysia still needs a lot of improvement.What about Singapore and South Korea, oil and resource rich Malaysia could have been better than these resource impoverished states but they are far ahed of us. Why couldn't we be at the same level as them although our countries gained independence at about the same time.
swingdoctor
QUOTE (forrestcat @ Feb 17 2006, 05:20 AM)
Malaysia might be better than perhaps Ghana and a ahead of some of our ASEAN neighbours, Malaysia still needs a lot of improvement.What about Singapore and South Korea, oil and resource rich Malaysia could have been better than these resource impoverished states but they are far ahed of us. Why couldn't we be at the same level as them although our countries gained independence at about the same time.
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Government
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Malaysia is the most educated people in Asia a third place just below South Korea and Japan.
Malaysia averagely spent 11.5 years for education, S Korea at rate 14.6 and Japan 14.3 years.
Thanks to the superior people who managing Malaysia, just 25 years ago the fathers or parents of most Malays today just ordinary farmers and fishermans without knowing much about school.

Most educated

#1 Norway 16.9 years
#2 Finland 16.7 years
#3 Australia 16.6 years
#4 United Kingdom 16.4 years
#5 New Zealand 16.2 years
#6 Sweden 16 years
#7 Netherlands 15.9 years
#8 Belgium 15.8 years
#9 Iceland 15.8 years
#10 Denmark 15.6 years
#11 France 15.4 years
#12 Germany 15.3 years
#13 Spain 15.3 years
#14 United States 15.2 years
#15 Portugal 15.2 years
#16 Switzerland 15 years
#17 Ireland 14.9 years
#18 Canada 14.8 years
#19 Austria 14.7 years
#20 Italy 14.7 years
#21 Korea, South 14.6 years
#22 Israel 14.6 years
#23 Poland 14.4 years
#24 Argentina 14.3 years
#25 Japan 14.3 years
#26 Greece 14.3 years
#27 Estonia 14.1 years
#28 Slovenia 14.1 years
#29 South Africa 14.1 years
#30 Uruguay 13.7 years
#31 Hungary 13.6 years
#32 Bahrain 13.5 years
#33 Tunisia 13.5 years
#34 Czech Republic 13.5 years
#35 Chile 13.5 years
#36 Malta 13.4 years
#37 Brazil 13.4 years
#38 Qatar 13.1 years
#39 Luxembourg 13.1 years
#40 Lebanon 12.8 years
#41 Bulgaria 12.7 years
#42 Barbados 12.4 years
#43 Peru 12.4 years
#44 Botswana 12 years
#45 Samoa 12 years
#46 Namibia 12 years
#47 Cuba 12 years
#49 Netherlands Antilles 11.8 years
#50 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of 11.7 years
#51 Swaziland 11.6 years
#52 Lithuania 11.6 years
#53 Romania 11.6 years
#54 Trinidad and Tobago 11.5 years
#55 Mexico 11.5 years
#56 Algeria 11.5 years
#57 Malaysia 11.5 years
#58 Croatia 11.4 years
#59 Panama 11.3 years
#60 Iran 11.3 years
#61 Latvia 11.2 years
#62 Philippines 11.2 years
#63 Georgia 11 years
#64 Venezuela 10.9 years
#65 Thailand 10.8 years
#66 Jamaica 10.8 years
#67 Cyprus 10.8 years
#68 United Arab Emirates 10.7 years
#69 Togo 10.6 years
#70 Azerbaijan 10.6 years
#71 Serbia and Montenegro 10.5 years
#72 Vietnam 10.4 years
#73 Egypt 10.3 years
#74 Costa Rica 10.1 years
#75 Paraguay 10 years
#76 Indonesia 10 years
#77 Colombia 10 years
#78 Bolivia 9.9 years
#79 Guyana 9.9 years
#80 El Salvador 9.8 years
#81 Lesotho 9.6 years
#82 Liberia 9.5 years
#83 Turkey 9.5 years
#84 Syria 9.5 years
#85 Iraq 9.1 years
#86 Jordan 9 years
#87 Saudi Arabia 9 years
#88 Oman 8.8 years
#89 Honduras 8.7 years
#90 Kuwait 8.7 years
#91 Yemen 8.5 years
#92 Laos 8.3 years
#93 Morocco 8.2 years
#94 Mongolia 7.7 years
#95 Cambodia 7.3 years
#96 Benin 7 years
#97 Zambia 7 years
#98 Madagascar 6.2 years
#99 Papua New Guinea 6.1 years
#100 Mozambique 5.4 years
pancaindera
u forgot israel, bahrain, qatar, lebanon, (australia, and new zealand if u count them as asia, i would, we have to be competitive biggthumpup.gif ). we still have a lot to catch up with, IMO.
1+1
I might sound a little bit harsh, but I am tired of all these craps from ungrateful people. I've said it before and I'll say it again. To those who think that Malaysia or Malaysian government suck, there are two options to consider:

1. Change the government - vote opposition
OR
2. Move out - don't come back

Talk is easy. Be grateful.
swingdoctor
QUOTE (1+1 @ Feb 18 2006, 04:54 PM)
I might sound a little bit harsh, but I am tired of all these craps from ungrateful people. I've said it before and I'll say it again. To those who think that Malaysia or Malaysian government suck, there are two options to consider:

1. Change the government - vote opposition
OR
2. Move out - don't come back

Talk is easy. Be grateful.
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I agree but if life was only that simple....... And besides don't you think that irrespective of race, religion, gender, nationality everyone should be treated equally.
johnleemk
QUOTE (1+1 @ Feb 19 2006, 05:54 AM)
I might sound a little bit harsh, but I am tired of all these craps from ungrateful people. I've said it before and I'll say it again. To those who think that Malaysia or Malaysian government suck, there are two options to consider:

1. Change the government - vote opposition
OR
2. Move out - don't come back

Talk is easy. Be grateful.
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I don't see what you're getting at. Are you assuming most "ungrateful people" don't vote opposition? You're also assuming the opposition can do a better job than the government (at least, in the opinion of those "ungrateful people").
forrestcat
QUOTE (Nusantara @ Feb 19 2006, 12:40 AM)
Malaysia is the most educated people in Asia a third place just below South Korea and Japan.
Malaysia averagely spent 11.5 years for education, S Korea at rate 14.6  and Japan 14.3 years.
Thanks to the superior people who managing Malaysia, just 25 years ago the fathers or parents of most Malays today just ordinary farmers and fishermans without knowing much about school.

Most educated

#1    Norway  16.9 years   
#2    Finland  16.7 years   
#3    Australia  16.6 years   
#4    United Kingdom  16.4 years   
#5    New Zealand  16.2 years   
#6    Sweden  16 years   
#7    Netherlands  15.9 years   
#8    Belgium  15.8 years   
#9    Iceland  15.8 years   
#10    Denmark  15.6 years   
#11    France  15.4 years   
#12    Germany  15.3 years   
#13    Spain  15.3 years   
#14    United States  15.2 years   
#15    Portugal  15.2 years   
#16    Switzerland  15 years   
#17    Ireland  14.9 years   
#18    Canada  14.8 years   
#19    Austria  14.7 years   
#20    Italy  14.7 years   
#21    Korea, South  14.6 years   
#22    Israel  14.6 years   
#23    Poland  14.4 years   
#24    Argentina  14.3 years   
#25    Japan  14.3 years   
#26    Greece  14.3 years   
#27    Estonia  14.1 years   
#28    Slovenia  14.1 years   
#29    South Africa  14.1 years   
#30    Uruguay  13.7 years   
#31    Hungary  13.6 years   
#32    Bahrain  13.5 years   
#33    Tunisia  13.5 years   
#34    Czech Republic  13.5 years   
#35    Chile  13.5 years   
#36    Malta  13.4 years   
#37    Brazil  13.4 years   
#38    Qatar  13.1 years   
#39    Luxembourg  13.1 years   
#40    Lebanon  12.8 years   
#41    Bulgaria  12.7 years   
#42    Barbados  12.4 years   
#43    Peru  12.4 years   
#44    Botswana  12 years   
#45    Samoa  12 years   
#46    Namibia  12 years   
#47    Cuba  12 years   
#49    Netherlands Antilles  11.8 years   
#50    Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of  11.7 years   
#51    Swaziland  11.6 years   
#52    Lithuania  11.6 years   
#53    Romania  11.6 years   
#54    Trinidad and Tobago  11.5 years   
#55    Mexico  11.5 years   
#56    Algeria  11.5 years   
#57    Malaysia  11.5 years   
#58    Croatia  11.4 years   
#59    Panama  11.3 years   
#60    Iran  11.3 years 
#61    Latvia  11.2 years   
#62    Philippines  11.2 years 
#63    Georgia  11 years   
#64    Venezuela  10.9 years   
#65    Thailand  10.8 years   
#66    Jamaica  10.8 years   
#67    Cyprus  10.8 years   
#68    United Arab Emirates  10.7 years   
#69    Togo  10.6 years   
#70    Azerbaijan  10.6 years   
#71    Serbia and Montenegro  10.5 years   
#72    Vietnam  10.4 years   
#73    Egypt  10.3 years   
#74    Costa Rica  10.1 years   
#75    Paraguay  10 years   
#76    Indonesia  10 years   
#77    Colombia  10 years   
#78    Bolivia  9.9 years   
#79    Guyana  9.9 years   
#80    El Salvador  9.8 years   
#81    Lesotho  9.6 years   
#82    Liberia  9.5 years   
#83    Turkey  9.5 years   
#84    Syria  9.5 years   
#85    Iraq  9.1 years   
#86    Jordan  9 years   
#87    Saudi Arabia  9 years   
#88    Oman  8.8 years   
#89    Honduras  8.7 years   
#90    Kuwait  8.7 years   
#91    Yemen  8.5 years   
#92    Laos  8.3 years   
#93    Morocco  8.2 years   
#94    Mongolia  7.7 years   
#95    Cambodia  7.3 years   
#96    Benin  7 years   
#97    Zambia  7 years   
#98    Madagascar  6.2 years   
#99    Papua New Guinea  6.1 years   
#100    Mozambique  5.4 years
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Perhaps Malaysia could get a higher rank if we include the hours Malaysian students spend in tuition centres.
pancaindera
QUOTE (1+1 @ Feb 18 2006, 10:54 PM)
I might sound a little bit harsh, but I am tired of all these craps from ungrateful people. I've said it before and I'll say it again. To those who think that Malaysia or Malaysian government suck, there are two options to consider:

1. Change the government - vote opposition
OR
2. Move out - don't come back

Talk is easy. Be grateful.
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if u ask all these "ungrateful people" (ppl who actually care about the wellbeing and future of malaysia) to MOVE OUT - DONT COME BACK, then who's gonna throw some serious "craps" (feedback) on the government? havent u heard of transparency, accountability and constructive criticism? how are we (malaysia) gonna improve without these?
and your 1st point, if i voted for the current govt, that doesnt mean that i must stop criticising them, and accept everything they do. that would be more autocratic than democratic.
1+1
QUOTE (swingdoctor @ Feb 18 2006, 11:07 PM)
I agree but if life was only that simple....... And besides don't you think that irrespective of race, religion, gender, nationality everyone should be treated equally.
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The affirmative action is only a temporary measure. Overall, it is vital to create middle class Malay, and maintain overall harmony between races. Anyway, how about discrimination against the Malay in the private sector?
1+1
QUOTE (johnleemk @ Feb 19 2006, 12:22 AM)
I don't see what you're getting at. Are you assuming most "ungrateful people" don't vote opposition? You're also assuming the opposition can do a better job than the government (at least, in the opinion of those "ungrateful people").
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This is a democratic country. If you don't like the current administration, why not try to change the government? Okay fine.. Malaysia has many weaknesses, but would you rather live in Liberia? We have to be grateful that at least most people can live peacefully. Please compare apple to apple, not apple to onion.
1+1
QUOTE (pancaindera @ Feb 19 2006, 06:10 AM)
if u ask all these "ungrateful people" (ppl who actually care about the wellbeing and future of malaysia) to MOVE OUT - DONT COME BACK, then who's gonna throw some serious "craps" (feedback) on the government? havent u heard of transparency, accountability and constructive criticism? how are we (malaysia) gonna improve without these?
and your 1st point, if i voted for the current govt, that doesnt mean that i must stop criticising them, and accept everything they do. that would be more autocratic than democratic.
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There is a different between criticizing and condemning.
pancaindera
@1+1: yes. there is a difference. i thought u were talking about ppl who just criticize. beerchug.gif
swingdoctor
QUOTE (1+1 @ Feb 19 2006, 11:32 AM)
The affirmative action is only a temporary measure. Overall, it is vital to create middle class Malay, and maintain overall harmony between races. Anyway, how about discrimination against the Malay in the private sector?
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Hence no simple answer but the question is how "temporary" is temporary. Its been in place for a generation and a bit already. The problem with a 2 class society is that it encourages complacency. When one group of people have it "easier" for too long it makes it then more difficult for them to then compete on an even playing field. Finally when the oppresed group sees that they are being disadvantaged and their standard of living/quality of life is eroding because of it, they usually start to feel resentful and fight back as we are starting to see here. A 2 class society never works for long, look around the world, there is no successful society with 2 classes.

There is discrimination against Malays in the private sector, but how much "discrimination" in the past is actually due to the fact that in the past as a group the Malays were less qualified then the other races. Now with the standard of education much higher now than then, I would assume this would be less of a problem. If I was running my own business with my money at stake I wouldn't care if I employed someone who was black, white, yellow or purple. I would want someone who was best for the job.
forrestcat
QUOTE (swingdoctor @ Feb 20 2006, 08:39 AM)
Hence no simple answer but the question is how "temporary" is temporary. Its been in place for a generation and a bit already. The problem with a 2 class society is that it encourages complacency. When one group of people have it "easier" for too long it makes it then more difficult for them to then compete on an even playing field. Finally when the oppresed group sees that they are being disadvantaged and their standard of living/quality of life is eroding because of it, they usually start to feel resentful and fight back as we are starting to see here. A 2 class society never works for long, look around the world, there is no successful society with 2 classes.

There is discrimination against Malays in the private sector, but how much "discrimination" in the past is actually due to the fact that in the past as a group the Malays were less qualified then the other races. Now with the standard of education much higher now than then, I would assume this would be less of a problem. If I was running my own business with my money at stake I wouldn't care if I employed someone who was black, white, yellow or purple. I would want someone who was best for the job.
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It is true, Chinese who cannot get places at Uni in Malaysia, 'merajuk' and migrate, while the oversea educated Malays, unable to find good jobs(even though they are qualified) in the chinese dominated private sector also 'merajuk' and migrate = brain drain = Malaysia yang rugi
swingdoctor
QUOTE (forrestcat @ Feb 20 2006, 01:07 AM)
It is true, Chinese who cannot get places at Uni in Malaysia, 'merajuk' and migrate, while the oversea educated Malays, unable to find good jobs(even though they are qualified) in the chinese dominated private sector also 'merajuk' and migrate = brain drain = Malaysia yang rugi
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Really? I wasn't aware that many Malay's migrated. Where do they usually migrate to?
Through my GF I know a Malay gentleman who migrated to Melbourne but that was more then 20 years ago.

And I'm not sure "merajuk" is the right word to use.
jason76


so is this old dude an asiaphille?...he looks like their grandfather lol

his 30 years older daaaamn
johnleemk
QUOTE
The affirmative action is only a temporary measure. Overall, it is vital to create middle class Malay, and maintain overall harmony between races. Anyway, how about discrimination against the Malay in the private sector?

Hehe, last night I saw a "help wanted" ad in a store window asking for a "Chinese female" only. I don't know which sickens me more -- discrimination in the private sector, or discrimination in the public sector. Both upset me equally, I think. I don't know why the government hasn't enacted laws preventing such discrimination like the US has. After all, our society is even more plural than their's, and minorities there didn't have any real rights until the 1960s. If anything, we should be doing a better job stamping out such discrimination.

What concerns me is the rise of "ketuanan Melayu" over the recent years. Until 2003, I don't think anyone ever heard such a phrase. Nowadays it's even in our secondary school textbooks. thumbsdown.gif I don't believe the affirmative action should be necessary forever, and there's no reason to privilege one particular group over another. Think of it as scaffolding -- once the structure is completed, there's no need for the scaffolding anymore.

QUOTE (1+1 @ Feb 20 2006, 12:41 AM)
This is a democratic country. If you don't like the current administration, why not try to change the government? Okay fine.. Malaysia has many weaknesses, but would you rather live in Liberia? We have to be grateful that at least most people can live peacefully. Please compare apple to apple, not apple to onion.
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Maybe because I want to believe the current administration is mature enough to accept constructive criticism and improve itself, instead of just merajuking and telling me to vote opposition or "you tak suka, you keluar dari Malaysia!"?
forrestcat
QUOTE (swingdoctor @ Feb 20 2006, 02:45 PM)
Really? I wasn't aware that many Malay's migrated. Where do they usually migrate to?
Through my GF I know a Malay gentleman who migrated to Melbourne but that was more then 20 years ago.

And I'm not sure "merajuk" is the right word to use.
*


My uncle, an IT engineer is one of them, OK maybe they did not merajuk, but they do emigrate coz they find that Malaysians is kinda racist and practice nepotisme when seeking employees be it Malays and Chinese and everyone suffers, my uncle served a Chinese company helping with the new MyKad and he's kinda surprised that some fresh chinese employers with lower qualifications and locally trained earns more than him who has a Master,helped developed softwares for European firms and could easily earn 3 times the amount in Europe (my Uncle came back for only 6 months and went back after MyKad is finished). Besides that,my Aunt is also a Quantity Surveyor in Singapore, all her appliccation in Malaysia were rejected, even though she offered low salary, but an American Company based in Singapore accepted her also at low salary but you goota love the Singaporean Dollar. You could ask around many Malay families and find the brightest ones are usually working overseas.

It is very common you know for Malays to advise their children who are bound overseas , 'nanti dapat ijazah kerja la mana-mana, jangan balik Malaysia, semua kilang cina punya, mana nak dapat kerja'. Really, it is true.

About the Malay privielage, there is supposed to be an agreement between the UMNO and MCA and MIC to extend the Bumiputra priviliege until some certain extent to eleveate the Malays share of the economy to at least 25% since the last DEB failed. I gather that the Bumiputra rights might be reduced significantly by at late 2020. But the would it matter whther the rights are removed now or 100 years later, the damage has been done already.
samheisfl
QUOTE (1+1 @ Feb 20 2006, 12:32 AM)
Anyway, how about discrimination against the Malay in the private sector?
*


This what i encountered when i was looking for job.. Not all.. only some of them..
forrestcat
QUOTE (swingdoctor @ Feb 20 2006, 02:45 PM)
Really? I wasn't aware that many Malay's migrated. Where do they usually migrate to?
Through my GF I know a Malay gentleman who migrated to Melbourne but that was more then 20 years ago.

And I'm not sure "merajuk" is the right word to use.
*


There is practically a village of Malays in Melbourne my friend.
swingdoctor
QUOTE (forrestcat @ Feb 20 2006, 04:19 AM)
My uncle, an IT engineer is one of them, OK maybe they did not merajuk, but they do emigrate coz they find that Malaysians is kinda racist and practice nepotisme when seeking employees be it Malays and Chinese and everyone suffers, my uncle served a Chinese company helping with the new MyKad and he's kinda surprised that some  fresh chinese employers with lower qualifications  and locally trained earns more than him who has a Master,helped developed softwares for European firms and could easily earn 3 times the amount in Europe (my Uncle came back for only 6 months and went back after MyKad is finished). Besides that,my Aunt is also a Quantity Surveyor in Singapore, all her appliccation in Malaysia were rejected, even though she offered low salary, but an American Company based in Singapore accepted her also at low salary but you goota love the Singaporean Dollar. You could ask around many Malay families and find the brightest ones are usually working overseas.

It is very common you know for Malays to advise their children who are bound overseas , 'nanti dapat ijazah kerja la mana-mana, jangan balik Malaysia, semua kilang cina punya, mana nak dapat kerja'.  Really, it is true.

About the Malay privielage, there is supposed to be an agreement between the UMNO and MCA and MIC to extend the Bumiputra priviliege until some certain extent to eleveate the Malays share of the economy to at least 25% since the last DEB failed. I gather that the Bumiputra rights might be reduced significantly by at late 2020. But the would it matter whther the rights are removed now or 100 years later, the damage has been done already.
*

Its quite sad that races can live in harmony next to each other but discrimination still exists widely in other areas. Its sad that Malay parents are encouraging their children not to come home and Chinese families are moving overseas for a fairer lifestyle.
In Australia, multi-culturalism is much newer then it is in Malaysia, I'd say that on a personal level, although its still very, very good, the races don't gel as well as in Malaysia. Yet when it comes to employment and educational oppertunities, Australia is light years ahead.
swingdoctor
QUOTE (forrestcat @ Feb 20 2006, 04:13 PM)
There is practically a village of Malays in Melbourne my friend.
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Do you know if they live in a particular suburb?
I really miss good Malay food, Nasi Padang, Mee Rebus and Satay Yummmm.
We can get Indonesian food, tastes similar but still not the same, not as good.
During Hari Raya, we used to visit my dad's work colleague who's wife was particularly good at making Ayam Masak Merah.
109
where is nusantara?
I think you guys and girls have raised some interesting points but the school boy that loves stats has not come back and said anything?
Iron Malayan
Malays don't need to work for cheapskate employers. We are better off working with Malay owned or foreign owned businesses because these innovative ppl are much better employers.
Nationalist Front
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Mar 5 2006, 11:55 AM) *
Malays don't need to work for cheapskate employers. We are better off working with Malay owned or foreign owned businesses because these innovative ppl are much better employers.



Hehehehe.......

and the employers dont need a cheapskate worker like you.
chilli21
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Mar 6 2006, 03:55 AM) *
Malays don't need to work for cheapskate employers. We are better off working with Malay owned or foreign owned businesses because these innovative ppl are much better employers.


that's not the reality though.
Iron Malayan
^^ Quit foolin around
just tell me why those Indonesian aborigines like to beat up your ppl like gypsy rats.



QUOTE (Nationalist Front @ Mar 13 2006, 03:56 AM) *
Hehehehe.......

and the employers dont need a cheapskate worker like you.
What makes you think I need to work for anyone ?
johnleemk
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Mar 13 2006, 10:52 PM) *
^^ Quit foolin around
just tell me why those Indonesian aborigines like to beat up your ppl like gypsy rats.

Maybe because the Chinese dominated the Indonesian economy at the expense of the Indonesian majority? Oh wait. In Iron Malayan's world, the Malays rule everything.
Iron Malayan
QUOTE (johnleemk @ Mar 14 2006, 09:59 AM) *
Maybe because the Chinese dominated the Indonesian economy at the expense of the Indonesian majority?
Ppl who dominate economies don't get pwned by angry mobs.
juwanFromTaiwan
There's no domination of anything.. Malaysia is the best place to live in Asia at the moment.. just go look it up..
johnleemk
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Mar 15 2006, 11:10 PM) *
Ppl who dominate economies don't get pwned by angry mobs.

So let me get this straight...economic superiority = physical invisibility?
Nusantara
Quality of Life 2005

Based on study from The Economist Intelligence Unit Malaysia rank number 36 for worldwide quality of life index. The index has been calculated for 111 countries for 2005.

Malaysia rank is number 4 in Asia just below Singapore, Japan and South Korea. Malaysia much even better than many western countries such as Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Croatia, Bulgaria etc.

Relatively better management and tougher law imposed by people who rule Malaysia make it benefit for his very own people.

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/QUALITY_OF_LIFE.pdf

Quality of life GDP per person Difference
Score Rank $ (at PPP) Rank in ranks
Ireland 8.333 1 36,790 4 3
Switzerland 8.068 2 33,580 7 5
Norway 8.051 3 39,590 3 0
Luxembourg 8.015 4 54,690 1 -3
Sweden 7.937 5 30,590 19 14
Australia 7.925 6 31,010 14 8
Iceland 7.911 7 33,560 8 1
Italy 7.810 8 27,960 23 15
Denmark 7.796 9 32,490 10 1
Spain 7.727 10 25,370 24 14
Singapore 7.719 11 32,530 9 -2
Finland 7.618 12 29,650 20 8
United States 7.615 13 41,529 2 -11
Canada 7.599 14 34,150 5 -9
New Zealand 7.436 15 25,110 25 10
Netherlands 7.433 16 30,920 15 -1
Japan 7.392 17 30,750 16 -1
Hong Kong 7.347 18 31,660 11 -7
Portugal 7.307 19 19,530 31 12
Austria 7.268 20 31,420 12 -8
Taiwan 7.259 21 28,070 22 1
Greece 7.163 22 22,340 27 5
Cyprus 7.097 23 20,500 30 7
Belgium 7.095 24 30,660 17 -7
France 7.084 25 30,640 18 -7
Germany 7.048 26 28,250 21 -5
Slovenia 6.986 27 21,892 28 1
Malta 6.934 28 18,710 32 4
United Kingdom 6.917 29 31,150 13 -16
Korea, South 6.877 30 23,360 26 -4
Chile 6.789 31 12,120 44 13
Mexico 6.766 32 10,000 54 22
Barbados 6.702 33 16,632 36 3
Czech Republic 6.629 34 17,600 35 1
Costa Rica 6.624 35 9,000 56 21
Malaysia 6.608 36 10,450 51 15
Hungary 6.534 37 16,047 37 0
Israel 6.488 38 21,310 29 -9
Brazil 6.470 39 8,760 58 19
Argentina 6.469 40 13,350 42 2
Qatar 6.462 41 33,840 6 -35
Thailand 6.436 42 8,140 62 20
Sri Lanka 6.417 43 3,810 91 48

Philippines 6.403 44 4,580 82 38
Slovakia 6.381 45 15,513 38 -7
Uruguay 6.368 46 8,869 57 11
Panama 6.361 47 6,760 71 24
Poland 6.309 48 12,825 43 -5
Croatia 6.301 49 11,870 46 -3
Turkey 6.286 50 8,209 61 11
Trinidad and Tobago 6.278 51 11,720 48 -3
Ecuador 6.272 52 4,030 86 34
Peru 6.216 53 5,730 77 24
Colombia 6.176 54 7,330 67 13
Kuwait 6.171 55 14,550 40 -15
El Salvador 6.164 56 3,780 93 37
Bulgaria 6.162 57 8,664 59 2
Romania 6.105 58 8,252 60 2
Venezuela 6.089 59 4,771 79 20
China 6.083 60 6,270 74 14
Vietnam 6.080 61 2,890 97 36
Bahrain 6.035 62 17,670 34 -28

Lithuania 6.033 63 13,758 41 -22
Jamaica 6.022 64 4,200 84 20
Morocco 6.018 65 4,660 80 15
Latvia 6.008 66 11,862 47 -19
Oman 5.916 67 12,040 45 -22
Estonia 5.905 68 14,800 39 -29
United Arab Emirates 5.899 69 18,330 33 -36
Libya 5.849 70 10,060 53 -17
Indonesia 5.814 71 3,840 90 19
Saudi Arabia 5.767 72 11,110 49 -23
India 5.759 73 3,290 96 23

Paraguay 5.756 74 3,600 95 21
Jordan 5.675 75 4,510 83 8
Nicaragua 5.663 76 2,600 99 23
Bangladesh 5.646 77 1,660 105 28
Albania 5.634 78 5,260 78 0
Dominican Republic 5.630 79 6,610 72 -7
Egypt 5.605 80 3,930 88 8
Algeria 5.571 81 5,770 76 -5
Bolivia 5.492 82 3,680 94 12
Tunisia 5.472 83 7,910 64 -19
Serbia and Montenegro 5.428 84 6,079 75 -9
Armenia 5.422 85 3,993 87 2
Azerbaijan 5.377 86 4,628 81 -5
Georgia 5.365 87 3,841 89 2
Iran 5.343 88 7,630 65 -23
Macedonia 5.337 89 7,499 66 -23
Guatemala 5.321 90 4,050 85 -5
Honduras 5.250 91 2,740 98 7
South Africa 5.245 92 10,810 50 -42
Pakistan 5.229 93 2,340 101 8
Bosnia and Hercegovina 5.218 94 7,020 70 -24
Ghana 5.174 95 2,560 100 5
Kazakhstan 5.082 96 8,090 63 -33
Syria 5.052 97 3,810 91 -6
Ukraine 5.032 98 6,500 73 -25
Moldova 5.009 99 2,280 102 3
Belarus 4.978 100 7,200 68 -32
Uganda 4.879 101 1,450 108 7
Turkmenistan 4.870 102 7,142 69 -33
Kyrgyz Republic 4.846 103 2,044 103 0
Botswana 4.810 104 10,400 52 -52
Russia 4.796 105 9,810 55 -50
Uzbekistan 4.767 106 1,808 104 -2
Tajikistan 4.754 107 1,226 109 2
Nigeria 4.505 108 960 110 2
Tanzania 4.495 109 672 111 2
Haiti 4.090 110 1,470 107 -3
Zimbabwe 3.892 111 1,500 106 -5
johnleemk
I'm not sure it's much consolation to be ahead of warstruck Sri Lanka, coup-ridden Philippines or various former Soviet bloc countries who are only now recovering from communism.
Nusantara
That's also surprising me why countries in war situation like Sri Langka is in better position perhaps only small portion on north near India the region affected by war.

And quite surprising also modern country like United Arab Emirate which build their high income through commerce and business hub worse than several Asian countries.
swingdoctor
Is this based only on GDP per person?
If it is it only describes the wealth of the country and not necessarily the quality of life.
TTTT
I have doubts about it why should they included 'climate and geography'if these really subjective?Aren't these based on personal level?

the quality of life? according this index Ireland rank first so that means tha quality of life overthere must very pretty high qualified -_- You must be $hitting me er?That country is most dullest place I have ever been.I went with my class on an excursion when I was on high school. Well the quality standards might be high but you are gonna bored till dead.
skeletoned
QUOTE (Nusantara @ Mar 24 2006, 11:12 AM) *
Based on study from The Economist Intelligence Unit Malaysia rank number 36 for worldwide quality of life index. The index has been calculated for 111 countries for 2005.

Malaysia rank is number 4 in Asia just below Singapore, Japan and South Korea. Malaysia much even better than many western countries such as Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Croatia, Bulgaria etc.

Relatively better management and tougher law imposed by people who rule Malaysia make it benefit for his very own people.

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/QUALITY_OF_LIFE.pdf

Quality of life GDP per person Difference
Score Rank $ (at PPP) Rank in ranks
Ireland 8.333 1 36,790 4 3
Switzerland 8.068 2 33,580 7 5
Norway 8.051 3 39,590 3 0
Luxembourg 8.015 4 54,690 1 -3
Sweden 7.937 5 30,590 19 14
Australia 7.925 6 31,010 14 8
Iceland 7.911 7 33,560 8 1
Italy 7.810 8 27,960 23 15
Denmark 7.796 9 32,490 10 1
Spain 7.727 10 25,370 24 14
Singapore 7.719 11 32,530 9 -2
Finland 7.618 12 29,650 20 8
United States 7.615 13 41,529 2 -11
Canada 7.599 14 34,150 5 -9
New Zealand 7.436 15 25,110 25 10
Netherlands 7.433 16 30,920 15 -1
Japan 7.392 17 30,750 16 -1
Hong Kong 7.347 18 31,660 11 -7
Portugal 7.307 19 19,530 31 12
Austria 7.268 20 31,420 12 -8
Taiwan 7.259 21 28,070 22 1
Greece 7.163 22 22,340 27 5
Cyprus 7.097 23 20,500 30 7
Belgium 7.095 24 30,660 17 -7
France 7.084 25 30,640 18 -7
Germany 7.048 26 28,250 21 -5
Slovenia 6.986 27 21,892 28 1
Malta 6.934 28 18,710 32 4
United Kingdom 6.917 29 31,150 13 -16
Korea, South 6.877 30 23,360 26 -4
Chile 6.789 31 12,120 44 13
Mexico 6.766 32 10,000 54 22
Barbados 6.702 33 16,632 36 3
Czech Republic 6.629 34 17,600 35 1
Costa Rica 6.624 35 9,000 56 21
Malaysia 6.608 36 10,450 51 15
Hungary 6.534 37 16,047 37 0
Israel 6.488 38 21,310 29 -9
Brazil 6.470 39 8,760 58 19
Argentina 6.469 40 13,350 42 2
Qatar 6.462 41 33,840 6 -35
Thailand 6.436 42 8,140 62 20
Sri Lanka 6.417 43 3,810 91 48

Philippines 6.403 44 4,580 82 38
Slovakia 6.381 45 15,513 38 -7
Uruguay 6.368 46 8,869 57 11
Panama 6.361 47 6,760 71 24
Poland 6.309 48 12,825 43 -5
Croatia 6.301 49 11,870 46 -3
Turkey 6.286 50 8,209 61 11
Trinidad and Tobago 6.278 51 11,720 48 -3
Ecuador 6.272 52 4,030 86 34
Peru 6.216 53 5,730 77 24
Colombia 6.176 54 7,330 67 13
Kuwait 6.171 55 14,550 40 -15
El Salvador 6.164 56 3,780 93 37
Bulgaria 6.162 57 8,664 59 2
Romania 6.105 58 8,252 60 2
Venezuela 6.089 59 4,771 79 20
China 6.083 60 6,270 74 14
Vietnam 6.080 61 2,890 97 36
Bahrain 6.035 62 17,670 34 -28

Lithuania 6.033 63 13,758 41 -22
Jamaica 6.022 64 4,200 84 20
Morocco 6.018 65 4,660 80 15
Latvia 6.008 66 11,862 47 -19
Oman 5.916 67 12,040 45 -22
Estonia 5.905 68 14,800 39 -29
United Arab Emirates 5.899 69 18,330 33 -36
Libya 5.849 70 10,060 53 -17
Indonesia 5.814 71 3,840 90 19
Saudi Arabia 5.767 72 11,110 49 -23
India 5.759 73 3,290 96 23

Paraguay 5.756 74 3,600 95 21
Jordan 5.675 75 4,510 83 8
Nicaragua 5.663 76 2,600 99 23
Bangladesh 5.646 77 1,660 105 28
Albania 5.634 78 5,260 78 0
Dominican Republic 5.630 79 6,610 72 -7
Egypt 5.605 80 3,930 88 8
Algeria 5.571 81 5,770 76 -5
Bolivia 5.492 82 3,680 94 12
Tunisia 5.472 83 7,910 64 -19
Serbia and Montenegro 5.428 84 6,079 75 -9
Armenia 5.422 85 3,993 87 2
Azerbaijan 5.377 86 4,628 81 -5
Georgia 5.365 87 3,841 89 2
Iran 5.343 88 7,630 65 -23
Macedonia 5.337 89 7,499 66 -23
Guatemala 5.321 90 4,050 85 -5
Honduras 5.250 91 2,740 98 7
South Africa 5.245 92 10,810 50 -42
Pakistan 5.229 93 2,340 101 8
Bosnia and Hercegovina 5.218 94 7,020 70 -24
Ghana 5.174 95 2,560 100 5
Kazakhstan 5.082 96 8,090 63 -33
Syria 5.052 97 3,810 91 -6
Ukraine 5.032 98 6,500 73 -25
Moldova 5.009 99 2,280 102 3
Belarus 4.978 100 7,200 68 -32
Uganda 4.879 101 1,450 108 7
Turkmenistan 4.870 102 7,142 69 -33
Kyrgyz Republic 4.846 103 2,044 103 0
Botswana 4.810 104 10,400 52 -52
Russia 4.796 105 9,810 55 -50
Uzbekistan 4.767 106 1,808 104 -2
Tajikistan 4.754 107 1,226 109 2
Nigeria 4.505 108 960 110 2
Tanzania 4.495 109 672 111 2
Haiti 4.090 110 1,470 107 -3
Zimbabwe 3.892 111 1,500 106 -5



Wow... Singapore is best in Asia? Cool. Wait a minute! It's even better than the U.S!..... Small yet successful. Malaysia's not bad... Hey! Singapore is better than Finland? That country got the World's Best Habitat Award in the year 2002 (I'm not so sure which year) making Singapore 2nd. And Singapore still beat them overall... Interesting. I've went to Amsterdam, Netherlands once. That country is really cool. They are Asian-friendly people... that's why some locals could understand a little of the Bahasa.
tangawizi
It's not based on GDP alone, but several Quality of Life determinants.
The Economist.

Ireland's combination of increasing wealth and traditional values gave it the conditions most likely to make its people happy, the survey found. The survey was prepared for The Economist's "World in 2005" publication, with the remit: "Where will be the best place to live in 2005?"

The Economist said: "Ireland wins because it successfully combines the most desirable elements of the new, such as low unemployment and political liberties, with the preservation of certain cosy elements of the old, such as stable family and community life."

Sri Lanka wins the prize of the the most improved nation with a jump of five places to 43rd.

Elsewhere, the survey found the quality of life in the US has plummeted in the past year. Second only to Luxembourg in last year's survey, it has dropped 11 places to 13th this time round. The impact of war is hard to quantify but even harder is Iraq, which has dropped off the scale, with the compilers citing "lack of information".

Despite the reports of China's healthy economic development, it is still in the bottom half of the league in 60th place, thanks in part to its civil liberties' failings.

Here are the Determinants of quality of life. The nine quality-of-life factors, and the indicators used
to represent these factors, are:

1. Material wellbeing
gdp per person, at ppp in $. Source: Economist Intelligence Unit

2. Health
Life expectancy at birth, years. Source: US Census Bureau

3. Political stability and security
Political stability and security ratings. Source: Economist Intelligence Unit

4. Family life
Divorce rate (per 1,000 population), converted into index of 1 (lowest divorce rates) to 5 (highest). Sources: un; Euromonitor

5. Community life
Dummy variable taking value 1 if country has either high rate of church attendance or trade-union membership; zero otherwise. Sources: ILO; World Values Survey

6. Climate and geography
Latitude, to distinguish between warmer and colder climes. Source: cia World Factbook

7. Job security
Unemployment rate, %. Sources: Economist Intelligence Unit; ilo.

8. Political freedom
Average of indices of political and civil liberties. Scale of 1 (completely free) to 7 (unfree). Source: Freedom House

9. Gender equality
Ratio of average male and female earnings, latest available data.

Source: undp Human Development Report




To be frank, as a Singaporean, I appreciate the well-organized structure of the country, but like many, I find the quality of life sucks. Esp when compared to the life in Spain, which is just one notch higher.

This Economist list is based on some expat lifestyle in SG. If you happen to be one of the hi-rise HDB heartlanders, you will lack a certain joy of life and know that material wellbeing means squat if you lose your $hitty job.
Nusantara
Enviromental Performance Index 2006

Malaysia is the best in the whole world of Asia even better than Japanese in national pollution control and natural resource management and good policy in Environmental Health, Air Quality, Water Resources, Biodiversity and Habitat, Productive Natural Resources, and Sustainable Energy.
Source:http://www.yale.edu/epi/2006EPI_Rankings.pdf

1 New Zealand 88.0 􀂄􀁪􀁪􀂅􀁵􀁞 47 Unit. Arab Em. 73.2 􀁿􀁗􀁁􀁞􀁅􀁯 93 Kenya 56.4 􀁅􀁖􀁮􀁶􀁹􀁨
2 Sweden 87.8 􀂆􀁗􀁰􀂆􀁣􀁲 48 Suriname 72.9 􀁬􀁣􀀳􀂆􀁫􀂁 94 China 56.2 􀁝􀁥􀁒􀁑􀀶􀁣
3 Finland 87.0 􀁹􀁖􀁭􀂆􀁢􀁳 49 Turkey 72.8 􀁶􀀾􀁦􀁸􀁐􀁥 95 Azerbaijan 55.7 􀁛􀁒􀀫􀁧􀀿􀂆
4 Czech Rep. 86.0 􀂄􀁨􀁔􀂃􀁗􀂄 50 Bulgaria 72.0 􀂀􀀽􀀺􀁢􀁐􀁯 96 Papua N. G. 55.5 􀁁􀁁􀁵􀂅􀁫􀂁
5 Unit. Kingdom 85.6 􀂅􀁛􀁯􀁾􀁞􀁨 51 Ukraine 71.2 􀂀􀁇􀀦􀁢􀁙􀁯 97 Syria 55.3 􀁩􀀱􀀶􀁐􀀾􀁩
6 Austria 85.2 􀂄􀀻􀁴􀂆􀁙􀂂 52 Honduras 70.8 􀁣􀁯􀁪􀂄􀁆􀁻 98 Zambia 54.4 􀀸􀁳􀁫􀂆􀁦􀂆
7 Denmark 84.2 􀂅􀁈􀁳􀂃􀁞􀁥 53 Iran 70.0 􀁷􀁏􀁃􀁩􀀽􀁵 99 Viet Nam 54.3 􀁌􀁊􀁠􀂃􀁍􀁩
8 Canada 84.0 􀂅􀁗􀁟􀂅􀁘􀁫 54 Dom. Rep. 69.5 􀁦􀁨􀁦􀁲􀁌􀁵 100 Cameroon 54.1 􀀾􀁖􀁷􀂆􀁤􀁯
9 Malaysia 83.3 􀁻􀁨􀁝􀂆􀁱􀁯 55 Philippines 69.4 􀁠􀁦􀁰􀂄􀁞􀁦 101 Swaziland 53.9 􀀼􀁆􀁵􀂁􀁫􀂄
10 Ireland 83.3 􀂅􀀹􀁳􀂆􀁜􀁩 56 Nicaragua 69.2 􀁟􀁦􀁨􀂆􀁒􀁻 102 Laos 52.9 􀀵􀁭􀁼􀂆􀁘􀂆
11 Portugal 82.9 􀂄􀁖􀁰􀁻􀁒􀁦 57 Albania 68.9 􀁯􀀶􀁭􀂆􀀮􀁻 103 Togo 52.8 􀀻􀁥􀁬􀂆􀁴􀁝
12 France 82.5 􀂆􀁒􀁰􀁾􀁞􀁎 58 Guatemala 68.9 􀁡􀁦􀁳􀂆􀀿􀁵 104 Turkmenistan 52.3 􀁙􀀽􀀣􀁪􀀿􀂆
13 Iceland 82.1 􀂅􀁠􀁦􀂆􀁞􀁀 59 Saudi Arabia 68.3 􀁵􀁜􀁀􀁔􀀽􀁻 105 Uzbekistan 52.3 􀁚􀁅􀀣􀁜􀁃􀂆
14 Japan 81.9 􀂄􀁧􀁱􀂁􀁔􀁀 60 Oman 67.9 􀁱􀁈􀁚􀁢􀀺􀁻 106 Gambia 52.3 􀁆􀀵􀁵􀂆􀁗􀁣
15 Costa Rica 81.6 􀁳􀁲􀁸􀂆􀁝􀁵 61 Thailand 66.8 􀁨􀁜􀁥􀁾􀁏􀁍 107 Senegal 52.1 􀁇􀁤􀁯􀁔􀁕􀁩
16 Switzerland 81.4 􀂅􀀻􀁶􀂆􀁜􀁑 62 Paraguay 66.4 􀁠􀁋􀁩􀁯􀁖􀂆 108 Burundi 51.6 􀀽􀁄􀁻􀂂􀁽􀁑
17 Colombia 80.4 􀁴􀁜􀁴􀂄􀁦􀁴 63 Algeria 66.2 􀁷􀁅􀁜􀀺􀁆􀁩 109 Liberia 51.0 􀀷􀁃􀁳􀂆􀁸􀁻
18 Norway 80.2 􀂅􀁂􀁮􀂆􀁟􀁀 64 Jordan 66.0 􀁷􀁘􀁓􀁍􀁈􀁅 110 Cambodia 49.7 􀀲􀁴􀁻􀂆􀁘􀁯
19 Greece 80.2 􀂃􀀺􀁬􀂁􀁒􀁪 65 Peru 65.4 􀁡􀁙􀁵􀁵􀁚􀁏 111 Sierra Leone 49.5 􀀴􀁘􀁯􀂆􀁭􀁴
20 Australia 80.1 􀂅􀁑􀁥􀁏􀁎􀂁 66 Mexico 64.8 􀁲􀁐􀁤􀀵􀁁􀁩 112 Congo 49.4 􀀳􀁠􀁰􀂆􀁨􀁵
21 Italy 79.8 􀂂􀁐􀁲􀁲􀁗􀁘 67 Sri Lanka 64.6 􀁝􀁘􀁴􀁵􀁔􀁡 113 Guinea 49.2 􀀱􀁡􀁺􀂆􀁦􀁵
22 Germany 79.4 􀂅􀀵􀁰􀁶􀁝􀁘 68 Morocco 64.1 􀁭􀁖􀁬􀀩􀁖􀁨 114 Haiti 48.9 􀁅􀀱􀁶􀂄􀁈􀁗
23 Spain 79.2 􀂃􀁞􀁯􀁟􀁑􀁗 69 Armenia 63.8 􀁧􀁗􀁌􀁐􀁅􀂆 115 Mongolia 48.8 􀁏􀁩􀀬􀀻􀂆
24 Taiwan 79.1 􀂀􀁤􀁧􀂆􀁏􀁅 70 Kazakhstan 63.5 􀁨􀁅􀀫􀁬􀁜􀂆 116 Madagascar 48.5 􀀷􀁆􀁴􀁻􀁬􀁵
25 Slovakia 79.1 􀂃􀁍􀁘􀂆􀁙􀁑 71 Bolivia 63.4 􀁕􀁣􀁠􀂃􀁆􀂆 117 Tajikistan 48.2 􀁅􀁐􀀰􀁸􀁈􀂆
26 Chile 78.9 􀁹􀁥􀁬􀁵􀁠􀁟 72 Ghana 63.1 􀁐􀁒􀁵􀂆􀁹􀁤 118 India 47.7 􀁋􀁇􀁜􀁤􀀻􀁞
27 Netherlands 78.7 􀂃􀀹􀁬􀁮􀁘􀁤 73 El Salvador 63.0 􀁠􀀳􀁴􀂆􀁊􀁣 119 D. R. Congo 46.3 􀀭􀁖􀁼􀂆􀁴􀁩
28 United States 78.5 􀂅􀁣􀁦􀁫􀁌􀁆 74 Zimbabwe 63.0 􀁑􀁤􀁟􀁱􀁧􀂆 120 Guin.-Bissau 46.1 􀀱􀁏􀁩􀂆􀁞􀂁
29 Cyprus 78.4 􀁼􀁞􀁫􀂅􀁐􀁑 75 Moldova 62.9 􀁳􀀰􀀣􀁎􀁙􀂆 121 Mozambique 45.7 􀀰􀁇􀁶􀁸􀁬􀁻
30 Argentina 77.7 􀁸􀁑􀁯􀁨􀁟􀁲 76 South Africa 62.0 􀁩􀁎􀁕􀁀􀁰􀁐 122 Yemen 45.2 􀁈􀀭􀁛􀁑􀁆􀁷
31 Slovenia 77.5 􀂄􀀷􀁩􀂆􀁘􀁄 77 Georgia 61.4 􀁞􀀾􀁚􀁿􀁀􀁻 123 Nigeria 44.5 􀀷􀁉􀁥􀂁􀁘􀁥
32 Russia 77.5 􀁾􀁝􀀯􀂄􀁗􀁵 78 Uganda 60.8 􀀾􀁫􀁾􀁿􀂄􀁿 124 Sudan 44.0 􀀸􀁈􀁵􀁶􀀸􀁴
33 Hungary 77.0 􀂀􀁏􀁦􀁮􀁗􀁑 79 Indonesia 60.7 􀁖􀁢􀁤􀂆􀀸􀁱 125 Bangladesh 43.5 􀁅􀀸􀁳􀁽􀀪􀁆
34 Brazil 77.0 􀁱􀁒􀁲􀂄􀁠􀁲 80 Kyrgyzstan 60.5 􀁕􀁥􀁅􀁱􀁒􀂆 126 Burkina Faso 43.2 􀀬􀁱􀁸􀁺􀁔􀁬
35 Trin. & Tob. 76.9 􀂀􀀾􀀦􀂆􀁫􀁻 81 Nepal 60.2 􀁋􀁝􀁸􀂅􀁃􀂅 127 Pakistan 41.1 􀁍􀀷􀁣􀁅􀀫􀁌
36 Lebanon 76.7 􀂀􀀴􀁝􀁻􀁔􀁮 82 Tunisia 60.0 􀁮􀀨􀁬􀁂􀁑􀁑 128 Angola 39.3 􀀫􀁏􀁬􀁾􀁓􀁻
37 Panama 76.5 􀁭􀁵􀁦􀂄􀁛􀁯 83 Tanzania 59.0 􀁄􀁫􀁴􀁺􀁸􀁩 129 Ethiopia 36.7 􀀬􀁋􀁶􀁲􀁙􀁑
38 Poland 76.2 􀂁􀀻􀁖􀂀􀁖􀁗 84 Benin 58.4 􀁀􀁺􀁱􀂆􀁰􀁩 130 Mali 33.9 􀀬􀁌􀁾􀁄􀀵􀂆
39 Belgium 75.9 􀂃􀀰􀁪􀁕􀁛􀁫 85 Egypt 57.9 􀁬􀀸􀁙􀁨􀀮􀁆 131 Mauritania 32.0 􀀻􀀩􀁒􀁂􀀽􀁗
40 Ecuador 75.5 􀁯􀁡􀁣􀁴􀁯􀁩 86 Côte d'Ivoire 57.5 􀁁􀁧􀁯􀂄􀁭􀁯 132 Chad 30.5 􀀢􀁝􀁻􀁂􀀸􀂂
41 Cuba 75.3 􀁷􀁢􀁗􀁩􀁒􀁵 87 Cen. Afr. Rep. 57.3 􀀹􀁪􀁻􀂅􀁱􀂆 133 Niger 25.7 􀀤􀁆􀁵􀁙􀀷􀁑
42 South Korea 75.2 􀂀􀁆􀁥􀁽􀁎􀁆 88 Myanmar 57.0 􀁏􀁊􀁺􀂅􀀺􀁮
43 Jamaica 74.7 􀁭􀁸􀁊􀂆􀁏􀁻 89 Rwanda 57.0 􀀾􀁟􀁹􀂁􀁽􀁮
44 Venezuela 74.1 􀁳􀁺􀀿􀁽􀁮􀁌 90 Romania 56.9 􀁝􀁄􀁏􀁧􀁊􀁢
45 Israel 73.7 􀂂􀁏􀁭􀁍􀁑􀁆 91 Malawi 56.5 􀁝􀁄􀁏􀁧􀁊􀁢
46 Gabon 73.2 􀁝􀁟􀁱􀂆􀂂􀁻 92 Namibia 56.5 􀀼􀁡􀁸􀁹􀁰􀂆
Mr.Hornbill
And yet we r still living in one temporary world.

There is no need for comparison between borders. As life is short.. don't bother urself with figures too much.

PEACE ! biggrin.gif
swingdoctor
QUOTE (tangawizi @ Mar 31 2006, 06:44 AM) *
4. Family life
Divorce rate (per 1,000 population), converted into index of 1 (lowest divorce rates) to 5 (highest). Sources: un; Euromonitor

I've learnt a long time ago that a low divorce rate does not equal marital bliss.
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