LOL just joking.

lol........

Hahahahaha!

Hope I didnt' give anyone a heart attack... LOL

...................u scared me ..................

lmao hahahaha nice joke nice aha...

Umm.. not funny Chuong .. my heart almost popped out.. since i never read the news

Practice some common sense people. What would Vietnamese be doing there?

I was like wTF?! Vietnamese too? I better not start seeing more fake topics like this or other people will create one for each section which will result in massive warnings

a) the situation in iraq is not laughing matter

b) don't count ur luck

c) if the time comes you'll be feeling sorry for the people

d) this is serious and so far no hostage has been killed (touch wood)

and

e) there are already hostages from south east asia so anythings possible

I thought it was Vietnamese American hostages. You know like that Vietnamese American soldier who was killed in Iraq who was a son of a boat person there I believe.

Nice sneaking in that "boat person" bit there.

And what's wrong with using the phrase "boat person"?

Why would you use it anyway? As if that's his father's identity, a "boat person", as if that's the Vietnamese-American identity, "boat people". His dad is a software consultant, he doesn't make his living relying on a boat.

LOL

You rock drunk_on_tea.

I was just wondering why people are getting so serious over something so trivial? Take things light-heartedly will make you look and feel younger. LOL

China ought to send a PLA detachement to Iraq. The Iraqi rebels kidnapped 7 Chinese nationals traveling in Iraq yesterday.

While PRC should definitely try to get its citizens back, but by sending troops into Iraq, it would only make U.S. happy because China has always been against the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Good one. Got me all worried for nothing.

What if they kill the Chinese hostages? Is China just going to sit there and watch?

I didn't say China should do one thing or the other. I am merely pointing out the dilemma China has in its hands...

Sending in police rescue squads or Army special operation agents to rescue its own citizens does not equal to getting involved politically and militarily to Iraq. Nor does it contradict current or past Chinese policies and positions with regard to the Iraq invasion.

This would allow the world to see that China is truly a power and to let the people see how awsome the PLA capability is. Otherwise people would just say that the PLA special forces are only for photo opportunity or parade purpose.

Actually it would be China's advantage for the world to not realize the true capabilities of the PLA. So when a nation, say U.S., decides to invade China, they will underestimate the PLA jk

But yes you are right. I can't wait until the U.S. media puts a twist on this and makes China look like the bad guy again

If those poor Chinese hostages get tortured and burned by the Iraqi rebels, the only people who will end up looking bad are those in the Chinese leadership.

They would come across as uncaring, hesitant, yielding, or whatever other negative attributes associated with incompetency.

I meant if China does send special forces into Iraq to rescue its citizens, the U.S. will surely somehow make China look bad, as it always had.

"Chinese special forces kills Iraqi freedom fighters"...

Why is China constantly worried about what the US would say about her? And not to do what is right for her own interest?

So the lives of those 7 Fujianese guys might just as well be forsaken? They don't mean anything at all? What does that say to the world? Chinese lives are so cheap that they are equivalent to some insignificant ants that one steps on everyday? Anybody can do anything to Chinese citizens abroad because the government of China is not going to do anything about it?

China is not, I am. I don't represent China I am not even from China Actually I am not worried because I know both sides play this game. It's as difficult to find good news about the U.S in China as it is to find good news about China int he U.S.

When did I ever say that the PRC should abandon its own people in Iraq? Why must you keep putting words in my mouth? Do you have some kind of sick fetish?

I am not putting words on your mouth. That is a direct result of the policies that you are advocating or suggesting that China adopts.

Is that a fetish? I'm still waiting to see where all the internet porn sites that you want to return to. Where are they, Kulong?

Aren't they Chinese living in Jordon? So they are Jordon civilians not Chinese civilians, so I don't know if the Chinese would want to help Jordon civilians even though they are of Chinese descent. China would probably save them, if they want to save their image because most of the world believes them as Chinese citizens so not saving them would make it look like they don't care about their people.

How many times do I need to tell you, I am not suggesting China to do one thing or another. Why is it so difficult to get that through your head? It's like talking to a wall

Fine. Doing nothing in this case is doing something (let those hostages die in vain) just in case you haven't figured it out yet.

OMG...

Did I say that China should do nothing? Like I said, I am not suggesting anything at all. In my very first post, I merely pointed out some issues. I then even agreed that the PRC government should send PLA special forces into Iraq to rescue these hostages. What is your problem?

What is yours?

Is this one of those heavy days?

Whatever -shurg I should've known better than to pay you any attention. You'd just manipulate my words and turn it into a pointless arguement as always

I thought this was a Joking post? Why it end up in a way that doesn't look like a happy post?

As always? Well, whatever, Kulong. If you don't want to debate with me, that's fine too. Not crying over it.

I never did want to debate or argue with you. I pointed out what kind of possible problems and dilemmas China could face and even agreed that China should send special forces to rescue these hostages. It's you who manipulated my words. But anyway, you can think what you will. I am not going to waste any more public forum space to satisfy your urge to have petty fights with other members.

Then why the hell did you quote my post and answer it? Thank you for letting me know that you have zero perspective as a Chinese regarding a Chinese matter.

You don't know why the Chinese nationals were there. You don't know why Iraqis are incapable of peace against just about anyone. Or is it that you have a principled perspective but can't say?

sigh.
My cousin is flying a helicopter over Iraq...

Umm...chinese special forces won first place spots in some areas in the special forces competition of either 2002 or 2003? There were 13 countries that participated in the event.

Oh yeah? In what areas?

I don't doubt that the Chinese special forces are very good but the proof is in the pudding. A succesful real life rescue mission would elevate their status at the forefront of credibility and respectability.

Not sure about special forces competition... But in the world military games (olympics of the military world) China came 2nd overall. The top 5 were Russia, China, Italy, Ukraine, and North Korea. 86 nations participated but this is traditional sports competition and not a military competition using weapons or special operations.

I have a friend who got there about 3 weeks ago. Eventhough his unit hasn't been attacked, I am very worried about him.

I don't remember, they competed in genuine special operation scenarios. They earned much more respect from their foreign counter-parts.

Not on par with western special forces, but still quite good.

hmm, the root cause of these circumstances is resulting that the US has no post war plans. they Should have listened to former the army's chief of staff General Eric K Shinseki (he is asian, I think) because he believes that several of hundred thousand American troops could be required to provide security and public severvices after the war.

well,the Bush aministration would not take his view for it... so the lootings, hostages and so on... don't you agree?, by the way General Shinseki lost his job due to this disagreement
with his boss, Donald Rumsfeld

Shinseki is obviously Japanese.


How ironic, he lost his job due to disagreement with his superiors in a country that values free speech.

not in politic, obvously

The truly ironic part is, an important function of free speech is so that people can speak out against their leaders.

Well, human nature plus politics

When I read the title I thought "where the hell did they get these hostages!?" You really had me for the few seconds.