Kulong
Apr 5 2004, 07:16 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/04/...p.ap/index.htmlQUOTE
HANOI, Vietnam (AP) -- Thousands of Vietnamese are making pilgrimages to a beach in southern Vietnam to worship a dead whale.
More than a thousand people -- many from hundreds of miles distant -- have journeyed to burn incense near the whale carcass discovered on the beach Friday, said a police officer in the Thanh Phu District of Ben Tre province.
Many villagers, especially fishermen, worship the giant mammals and believe a dead whale washing ashore is a sign of good fishing to come.
The 82-foot whale has started to decompose, but it could take weeks to decay completely, said the officer, who identified himself only as Minh. The villagers plan to use the bones to build a temple to honor the whale, he said.
A smaller whale washed ashore last month in the same area, about 100 miles southwest of Ho Chi Minh City, and the villagers have since built a shrine for it, Minh said.
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It's funny how the U.S. media can make Asians paying respect to a dead animal into some kind of supersticious "worshipping" ceremony...
supernovasp
Apr 5 2004, 07:36 PM
Let's eat it
jenny2004
Apr 5 2004, 07:48 PM
I think thats a beautiful ritual.
Jayson
Apr 5 2004, 07:56 PM

... This story sounds far fetch.
DAI_VIET
Apr 5 2004, 07:56 PM
QUOTE (jenny2004 @ Apr 5 2004, 08:48 PM)
I think thats a beautiful ritual.
Exactly.
jenny2004
Apr 5 2004, 08:02 PM
QUOTE (Jayson @ Apr 5 2004, 08:56 PM)

... This story sounds far fetch.
no more so then some Japanese rituals i've heard of
Kulong
Apr 5 2004, 08:04 PM
It's an "Asian thing" to bury dead animals. I believe it derived from Buddhism that all living things have souls and that they get reincarnated into different bodies, therefore "deep inside" we're all the same and should respect each other as such.
jenny2004
Apr 5 2004, 08:06 PM
Yes it is a Buddhist thing..being a Buddhist...I would know
ngo.ngochy
Apr 5 2004, 08:07 PM
^ i agree we should all respect each other.. i dun mind it's an asian thing

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jenny2004
Apr 5 2004, 08:09 PM
I love Asian things hehe.
So has anyone seen that movie Dances with Wolves?
Yeah well...I somehow earned the name Dances with Asians lol.
Jenny
DaMo
Apr 5 2004, 11:13 PM
They'd better deflate it, or this might happen:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4096586/QUOTE
Thar she blows! Dead whale explodesTaiwanese street, shops showered after gases built up inside
Blood and guts litter this street in Tainan, Taiwan, after decomposing organs in the sperm whale in background caused it to explode.TAIPEI - Residents of Tainan learned a lesson in whale biology after the decomposing remains of a 60-ton sperm whale exploded on a busy street, showering nearby cars and shops with blood and organs and stopping traffic for hours.
The 56-foot-long whale had been on a truck headed for a necropsy by researchers, when gases from internal decay caused its entrails to explode in the southern city of Tainan.
Residents and shop owners wore masks while trying to clean up the spilt blood and entrails.
"What a stinking mess. This blood and other stuff that blew out on the road is disgusting, and the smell is really awful," a BBC News report quoted one Tainan resident as saying.
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tongbao_vince
Apr 5 2004, 11:17 PM
Haha DaMo.. you posted exactly what I was thinking about.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Apr 6 2004, 01:31 AM
Yep, Vietnamese definitely respect the whales and dolphins. What are they called again as a sub-specie?
Anyway, I've heard about those rituals many times, people come and burn incense and pay respect to them everytime there's a whale washed up. I think it's beautiful though. We have a sense of connection with nature.
I've also been told of stories where Vietnamese boats fleeing the northern regime struck trouble in the high seas and those whales came along and helped the ship stabilise. Don't know if this is true though.
Kulong
Apr 6 2004, 09:59 AM
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 6 2004, 01:31 AM)
I've also been told of stories where Vietnamese boats fleeing the northern regime struck trouble in the high seas and those whales came along and helped the ship stabilise. Don't know if this is true though.
Hahaha
DaMo
Apr 6 2004, 10:05 AM
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 6 2004, 09:59 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 6 2004, 01:31 AM)
I've also been told of stories where Vietnamese boats fleeing the northern regime struck trouble in the high seas and those whales came along and helped the ship stabilise. Don't know if this is true though.
Hahaha
Can't you find a better way to express your skepticism?
Kulong
Apr 6 2004, 10:10 AM
QUOTE (DaMo @ Apr 6 2004, 10:05 AM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 6 2004, 09:59 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 6 2004, 01:31 AM)
I've also been told of stories where Vietnamese boats fleeing the northern regime struck trouble in the high seas and those whales came along and helped the ship stabilise. Don't know if this is true though.
Hahaha
Can't you find a better way to express your skepticism?
How about sarcasm?
WooOOooooooOo NOOO WAY!!! That is like, sooo incredible!! :shocked:
Doan Du
Apr 6 2004, 12:18 PM
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 6 2004, 11:10 AM)
QUOTE (DaMo @ Apr 6 2004, 10:05 AM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 6 2004, 09:59 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 6 2004, 01:31 AM)
I've also been told of stories where Vietnamese boats fleeing the northern regime struck trouble in the high seas and those whales came along and helped the ship stabilise. Don't know if this is true though.
Hahaha
Can't you find a better way to express your skepticism?
How about sarcasm?
WooOOooooooOo NOOO WAY!!! That is like, sooo incredible!! :shocked:
The whale has been revered as a noble deity for Vietnamese fishermen for thousand of years.
The word Ông in Cá Ông (whale) means Superior Being.
Kulong
Apr 6 2004, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (Doan Du @ Apr 6 2004, 12:18 PM)
The whale has been revered as a noble deity for Vietnamese fishermen for thousand of years.
The word Ông in Cá Ông (whale) means Superior Being.
That's great
angkorwat19
Apr 6 2004, 12:26 PM
QUOTE
I've also been told of stories where Vietnamese boats fleeing the northern regime struck trouble in the high seas and those whales came along and helped the ship stabilise. Don't know if this is true though.
good term. keep the hatred to the minimum.
DAI_VIET
Apr 6 2004, 01:31 PM
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 6 2004, 01:21 PM)
QUOTE (Doan Du @ Apr 6 2004, 12:18 PM)
The whale has been revered as a noble deity for Vietnamese fishermen for thousand of years.
The word Ông in Cá Ông (whale) means Superior Being.
That's great
Uh huh!
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Apr 6 2004, 05:22 PM
hey kulong, what's your problem you jerk? I was saying it's a story. What part don't you get, or you just wanna start another flame war? You're old enough to understand don't you?
Kulong
Apr 6 2004, 05:38 PM
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 6 2004, 05:22 PM)
hey kulong, what's your problem you jerk? I was saying it's a story. What part don't you get, or you just wanna start another flame war? You're old enough to understand don't you?
Why are you so sensitive NQSH? Are you still on your PMS?
I merely thought it was a "cute" story
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Apr 6 2004, 05:46 PM
So you think it is cute? I think it is a mockery.
I'm not PMS, I think you need some crack to calm yourself down. You're too cocky and alway looking to start a flame war.
huaren
Apr 6 2004, 05:50 PM
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 6 2004, 06:46 PM)
So you think it is cute? I think it is a mockery.
I'm not PMS, I think you need some crack to calm yourself down. You're too cocky and alway looking to start a flame war.
I dont think you can control yourself Nam Quoc Son Ha.
People say something and you anwser like you want to fight.
What a nice altitude.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Apr 6 2004, 05:53 PM
You should look at this guy's previous postings. Who started flame wars?
Somehow every single post of mine he can make a mockery or sarcasm out of it. What's his problem? I don't want to engage him but he's kinda follow me like a dog wanting bones.
DAI_VIET
Apr 6 2004, 05:54 PM
I think that most Vietnamese worship big fish, especially whales. I have so much love for big mamals, including whales.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Apr 6 2004, 05:59 PM
Me too, especially dolphins and killer whales (although they're kinda scary).
Kulong
Apr 6 2004, 06:20 PM
QUOTE (huaren @ Apr 6 2004, 05:50 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 6 2004, 06:46 PM)
So you think it is cute? I think it is a mockery.
I'm not PMS, I think you need some crack to calm yourself down. You're too cocky and alway looking to start a flame war.
I dont think you can control yourself Nam Quoc Son Ha.
People say something and you anwser like you want to fight.
What a nice altitude.
NQSH is just violent by nature

I've learned to look pass it
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Apr 6 2004, 06:26 PM
Oh PUH-LEESE kulong, I know you too well. Yeah looking pass it and always start a flame war and talk crap till the end. You sound like a "big man" but you're actually a xiaoren in disguise.
For f*ck's sake, I'll stop this flame war ok?
Kulong
Apr 6 2004, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha)
Oh PUH-LEESE kulong, I know you too well. Yeah looking pass it and always start a flame war and talk crap till the end. You sound like a "big man" but you're actually a xiaoren in disguise.
Blah blah blah

QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha)
For f*ck's sake, I'll stop this flame war ok?
That's right, bro. Stop what you started
DAI_VIET
Apr 6 2004, 06:28 PM
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 6 2004, 07:27 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha)
Oh PUH-LEESE kulong, I know you too well. Yeah looking pass it and always start a flame war and talk crap till the end. You sound like a "big man" but you're actually a xiaoren in disguise.
Blah blah blah

QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha)
For f*ck's sake, I'll stop this flame war ok?
That's right, bro. Stop what you started
You two are too funny. I am going to meditate for 2 minutes.
Kulong
Apr 6 2004, 06:29 PM
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 6 2004, 06:28 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 6 2004, 07:27 PM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha)
Oh PUH-LEESE kulong, I know you too well. Yeah looking pass it and always start a flame war and talk crap till the end. You sound like a "big man" but you're actually a xiaoren in disguise.
Blah blah blah

QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha)
For f*ck's sake, I'll stop this flame war ok?
That's right, bro. Stop what you started
You two are too funny. I am going to meditate for 2 minutes.
Thank you thank you <bows>
We will be here all week folks.
Nung1
Apr 6 2004, 06:37 PM
good god 2 u. lol
Kulong stop messing with his head lol.

anyways whales are great animals even in death they are respected. I think its cool that the people come to pay respects to the dead whales. As for that reincarnation thing, well im a Bhuddist so that stuff makes sense to me, repect for the dead to help its passing into another life or something like that.
(on another note) wouldnt it suk to have ure windows rolled down whan that whale exploded? hhahah........ im gona be sick......
Kulong
Apr 6 2004, 06:40 PM
QUOTE (Nung1 @ Apr 6 2004, 06:37 PM)
good god 2 u. lol
Kulong stop messing with his head lol.

Why are you picking on me?
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Apr 6 2004, 06:43 PM
Excuse me Nung but who's messing with whose head? Please clarify.
jenny2004
Apr 6 2004, 07:07 PM
QUOTE (Nung1 @ Apr 6 2004, 07:37 PM)
.
(on another note) wouldnt it suk to have ure windows rolled down whan that whale exploded? hhahah........ im gona be sick......
LOL niiiice. "Mom why are their whale guts on the windshield?"
Nung1
Apr 6 2004, 07:07 PM
Oh its nothing....more i explain the more pplz will think im taking sides.
Ogumo
Apr 7 2004, 01:28 AM
Ridiculous. They should be eating this whale.
huaren
Apr 7 2004, 01:50 AM
QUOTE
Ridiculous. They should be eating this whale.
You should respect their believe my Ogumo.
You can't insult their culture. Each races have each unique culture, and we shall respect each of them.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Apr 7 2004, 02:38 AM
We should be eating you instead Ogumo... Muahahah jk
Cevilgenius
Apr 7 2004, 10:08 AM
Well... actually Ogumo has half a point there... it's more efficient to devour the whale than to make a pilgramage to bury it. Then again... it's what they think is right to do - respect that.
-Norm
ngo.ngochy
Apr 7 2004, 01:25 PM
why would you eat something that can help you in a spiritual way??
DAI_VIET
Apr 7 2004, 01:43 PM
QUOTE (ngo.ngochy @ Apr 7 2004, 02:25 PM)
why would you eat something that can help you in a spiritual way??
Don't eat it.
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