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mimamo
i'm new here
just start listen to his music and start to like him

but unfortunately that his official website is in vietnamese

so i just want to know that is he v. popular in VN
does he has a good ruputation? any girlfriend?

silly question but please ... answer my question

my vietnamese course will start next month so..it'll be my pleasure if i can talk 2 u guys in vn. someday

thanks thanks thanks icon_redface.gif
ngo.ngochy
i thought his official website is also in english... anyway, he is popular in VN, and he does have a good rep too i think.. i heard that he has a girlfriend... but that's from ppl gossiping... anyway, i'm waiting to talk to you in Vietnamese soon icon_wink.gif.. maybe Chuong can help you better 'cuz he just got back from VN!!... hope u get better answer soon!
sHoRti_bEbi
i actually heard he is married to some viet girl in america
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (sHoRti_bEbi @ Apr 2 2004, 12:03 PM)
i actually heard he is married to some viet girl in america

Yup. She's Vietnamese-American.

P.S. I like Dan Truong more than Lam Truong.
mimamo
ah...

thank you for your answers

hope i can communicate in vietnamese soon :-)
Nam Quoc Son Ha
Lam Truong has just married a Vietnamese-American girl. She will be going to Vietnam to live with him soon (or perhaps she already is in Vietnam).

He is not that popular nowadays because many people reckons that he has lost touch with the audience with his new songs. They're a piece of crap according to my opinion. His singing is going down as well, not as good as its used to be.

I still love his old songs though, like tinh thoi xot xa, tuyet lanh, tien ban len duong, toi ngan nam doi, tuyet son phi ho etc.
ilovulongtime
did you know that lam truong is chinese, he makes us viet look bad since he copy a lot of chinese songs icon_sad.gif
Kulong
QUOTE (ilovulongtime @ Apr 20 2004, 10:01 PM)
did you know that lam truong is chinese, he makes us viet look bad since he copy a lot of chinese songs icon_sad.gif

Oh puh-lease. I see so many Viet singers copy Chinese songs they even have their own genre, "Chinese Meldoy". icon_rolleyes.gif
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (ilovulongtime @ Apr 20 2004, 11:01 PM)
did you know that lam truong is chinese, he makes us viet look bad since he copy a lot of chinese songs icon_sad.gif

You are not Vietnamese.
Jayson
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 21 2004, 02:07 AM)
QUOTE (ilovulongtime @ Apr 20 2004, 11:01 PM)
did you know that lam truong is chinese, he makes us viet look bad since he copy a lot of chinese songs icon_sad.gif

You are not Vietnamese.

Obviously.
bAo
i heard Lam Truong is gay...or used to be gay.
drunk_on_tea
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 20 2004, 09:39 PM)
QUOTE (ilovulongtime @ Apr 20 2004, 10:01 PM)
did you know that lam truong is chinese, he makes us viet look bad since he copy a lot of chinese songs icon_sad.gif

Oh puh-lease. I see so many Viet singers copy Chinese songs they even have their own genre, "Chinese Meldoy". icon_rolleyes.gif

Then you heard wrong Kulong. Vietnamese singers would signify "Chinese Melodies" if the songs were originally composed in Chinese but they do not have their own "Chinese Melody" genre.
Kulong
QUOTE (drunk_on_tea @ Apr 21 2004, 02:06 AM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 20 2004, 09:39 PM)
QUOTE (ilovulongtime @ Apr 20 2004, 10:01 PM)
did you know that lam truong is chinese, he makes us viet look bad since he copy a lot of chinese songs icon_sad.gif

Oh puh-lease. I see so many Viet singers copy Chinese songs they even have their own genre, "Chinese Meldoy". icon_rolleyes.gif

Then you heard wrong Kulong. Vietnamese singers would signify "Chinese Melodies" if the songs were originally composed in Chinese but they do not have their own "Chinese Melody" genre.

I've seen the words "Chinese Melody" around CD stores in Vietnamtown here in Houston many times, written in English. I have also a couple Vietnamese friends who specifically say they like "Chinese Melody". At first I thought they meant like old Chinese songs, those without lyrics, then I found out they are Vietnamese songs copied from Chinese songs... sure.gif

But whatever the case, it's a fact that many Vietnamese singers copy not only Chinese songs but also Korea, Japanese, and American songs as well. So saying that Lam Truong (assuming he is Chinese icon_rolleyes.gif) is giving Vietnamese a bad name because he is copying songs is just silly... sure.gif
ilovulongtime
ok, i dont deny the fact that the viet didn't coping the chinese songs but what i'm saying is lam truong he's coping more than 80% of chinese songs which give us a bad name.
Kulong
QUOTE (ilovulongtime @ Apr 21 2004, 01:12 PM)
ok, i dont deny the fact that the viet didn't coping the chinese songs but what i'm saying is lam truong he's coping more than 80% of chinese songs which give us a bad name.

So when a Vietnamese does it, it's OK, but when a Chinese does it, it's giving Vietnamese a bad name?

Even though that he's Chinese and he's copying Chinese songs? icon_rolleyes.gif

BTW, how do you know he's Chinese? Was he born in Vietnam, meaning a ethnic Chinese Vietnamese? If not then why would he want to go sing in Vietnam instead of Hong Kong, Taiwan or mainland China where he can probably make more money?

BTW, where did you get your statistics? icon_rolleyes.gif
ilovulongtime
Did I say its ok for the Vietnamese do it? No! But what I’m saying is he makes it so obvious and he represented for the viet people.

"BTW, how do you know he's Chinese? Was he born in Vietnam, meaning a ethnic Chinese Vietnamese? If not then why would he want to go sing in Vietnam instead of Hong Kong, Taiwan or mainland China where he can probably make more money?”

Yes, he Chinese but had born in Vietnam. As i know, the Vietnamese will never consider them Viet even if they born in Vietnam.

As for singing in hongkong, I guess he could unless he has to write his own song.
DAI_VIET
I hate Lam Truong.
Kulong
QUOTE (ilovulongtime)
Did I say its ok for the Vietnamese do it? No! But what I’m saying is he makes it so obvious and he represented for the viet people.

Oh please, the whole Vietnamese music industry copies foreign music... icon_rolleyes.gif
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 03:00 PM)
QUOTE (ilovulongtime)
Did I say its ok for the Vietnamese do it? No! But what I’m saying is he makes it so obvious and he represented for the viet people.

Oh please, the whole Vietnamese music industry copies foreign music... icon_rolleyes.gif

What? I guess you don't know a lot about Vietnam music industry and its artists then.

I hope that you're being sarcastic with the eyeroll.
Kulong
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 21 2004, 02:03 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 03:00 PM)
QUOTE (ilovulongtime)
Did I say its ok for the Vietnamese do it? No! But what I’m saying is he makes it so obvious and he represented for the viet people.

Oh please, the whole Vietnamese music industry copies foreign music... icon_rolleyes.gif

What? I guess you don't know a lot about Vietnam music industry and its artists then.

I hope that you're being sarcastic with the eyeroll.

Yes I was being sarcastic as I have heard, and actually liked one or two Vietnamese artists who don't copy foreign music.

I admit I don't know every detail about the Vietnamese music industry, but can anyone here say they do? sure.gif

This is just the impression I get from my personal experience, including hearing Vietnamese music myself when I dine at Vietnamese restaurants, walking by Vietnamese CD stores, talking to my Vietnamese friends... etc.
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 03:05 PM)
Yes I was being sarcastic as I have heard, and actually liked one or two Vietnamese artists who don't copy foreign music.

I admit I don't know every detail about the Vietnamese music industry, but can anyone here say they do? sure.gif

This is just the impression I get from my personal experience, including hearing Vietnamese music myself when I dine at Vietnamese restaurants, walking by Vietnamese CD stores, talking to my Vietnamese friends... etc.

Well, Vietnamese and Chinese themes and melody are pretty much the same to me. I know that some Vietnamese songs were actually translated into Chinese and Japanese. To me, all Asian pop music are the same.
Kulong
QUOTE (DAI_VIET)
Well, Vietnamese and Chinese themes and melody are pretty much the same to me.

Pretty much the same? What!? We're not talking about similarities and differences between Chinese and Vietnamese melodies. We're talking about the fact that artists are making money off of others' works.

QUOTE (DAI_VIET)
I know that some Vietnamese songs were actually translated into Chinese and Japanese.

Really, please name some. I have never heard anything like that before.
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 03:10 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET)
I know that some Vietnamese songs were actually translated into Chinese and Japanese.

Really, please name some. I have never heard anything like that before.

Writer: Trịnh Nam Sơn with some of his songs translated into Japanese
Writer: Ngọc Sơn (I hate this guy) with his new song "Vần Trăng Cô Đơn" (something like "Lonely Moon," gay title by the way) translated to Chinese.

And some other songs that I read in a Vietnamese music forum, but I didn't really pay attention or really cared about it.
Kulong
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 21 2004, 02:15 PM)
Writer: Tr?nh Nam S?n with some of his songs translated into Japanese
Writer: Ng?c S?n (I hate this guy) with his new song "V?n Tr?ng Cô ??n" (something like "Lonely Moon," gay title by the way) translated to Chinese.

And some other songs that I read in a Vietnamese music forum, but I didn't really pay attention or really cared about it.

Would you happen to have titles of these songs in Chinese and Japanese? I believe you, but I'd just like to listen to these songs because I've never heard of any Vietnamese songs being copied to another language. It's usually the other way around. beerchug.gif
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 03:18 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 21 2004, 02:15 PM)
Writer: Tr?nh Nam S?n with some of his songs translated into Japanese
Writer: Ng?c S?n (I hate this guy) with his new song "V?n Tr?ng Cô ??n" (something like "Lonely Moon," gay title by the way) translated to Chinese.

And some other songs that I read in a Vietnamese music forum, but I didn't really pay attention or really cared about it.

Would you happen to have titles of these songs in Chinese and Japanese? I believe you, but I'd just like to listen to these songs because I've never heard of any Vietnamese songs being copied to another language. It's usually the other way around. beerchug.gif

Sorry dude, but nope, I don't have the titles in Chinese or Japanese. You might want to ask your Vietnamese friends about "Lonely Moon," they probably know it. And I am telling the truth, I am searching for that article right now, but I can't find it anywhere.
BV_Anan
I'm the new member ...
I'm vietnamese ,too ...But I don't know English much ..
I know many thing about Lam Truong ..He married with the girl who has living in the USA ... And now ..He's there ,too .
But He wants to live in viet nam ...
DAI_VIET
I love Cam Ly!
drunk_on_tea
Yeah, DAI VIET is right. Back in the '40s and '50s when VN composers were just popping up like daisies, many songs were very influential in Japan. Trinh
Cong Son is a great example and there's this other writer that was especially true for this case, I can't remember the name. When I have a chance to ask my mom I will.
You have to realize that Asians borrowing music from each other only started within the past 20 years since it was only since then that music became a part of populart culture and of course, by the 1970s VN already lost soooooo much of it's human capital that we are barely starting to recover now and catch up with the international music industry in the future.
ditim
Trinh Cong Son:
One of his most famous songs, "Ngu Di Con or Lullaby", about the pain of a mother mourning her soldier son, became a hit in Japan in 1972

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/lifestyle/2004/02/22741/
July_Rain
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 03:00 PM)
Oh please, the whole Vietnamese music industry copies foreign music... icon_rolleyes.gif

Sorry, but it's stupid assumption.

"Would you happen to have titles of these songs in Chinese and Japanese? I believe you, but I'd just like to listen to these songs because I've never heard of any Vietnamese songs being copied to another language. It's usually the other way around. " -Kulong
Few examples

Singer Khanh Ly:

-1970 Nippon Columbia invited Khanh Ly to Japan in order to attend the Osaka Fair and also to record songs Diem Xua and Ca Dao Me in both languages Japanese and Vietnamese. Trinh Cong Son specifically requested Nippon Columbia to choose Khanh Ly as the performer for this recording.

-1982 Khanh Ly was invited to Japan to sing at the Asia Music Forum with various singers from different countries such as Korea, Hong Kong, Thailand, Indonesia, and Japan. Also the Nippon Columbia recorded a album with ten songs from Trinh Cong Son. She sung them in both Japanese and Vietnamese languages.

-1996 The largest Network station in Japan, NHK, chose Khanh Ly one out of ten people to make a documentary about her life and family. This documentary which was 50 minutes long, and was directed by Hideo Kado.

-1997 NHK chose Khanh Ly's documentary to premiered first out of the ten famous people such as Gandhi, Gucci, Martin Luther King Jr's wife ...aired April 29, 1997. In September 1997, a biography book with 270 pages written entirely in Japanese from the NHK Network solely about Khanh Ly sold only in Japan.

And yes, as Dai_Viet has mentioned, song Vang Trang Co Don of Ngoc Son has been translated to Chinese, and he's preparing for more.
Kulong
Read all the posts please, that was meant to be a sarcastic comment, hence the smilie... sure.gif

Anyway, you don't see Vietnamese songs being copied into Chinese, Japanese, or American songs anywhere near as frequent as the other way around. Also, if any Vietnamese songs are translated into Chinese, Japanese or English, it's through a legal process, I seriously doubt all Vietnamese singers got permission before they copied foreign songs. Also, it seems like foreign-copied songs blend in with mainstream Vietnamese music, while original Vietnamese songs in Chinese, Japanese, or English, if any, isn't so.
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 10:05 PM)
Read all the posts please, that was meant to be a sarcastic comment, hence the smilie... sure.gif

Anyway, you don't see Vietnamese songs being copied into Chinese, Japanese, or American songs anywhere near as frequent as the other way around. Also, if any Vietnamese songs are translated into Chinese, Japanese or English, it's through a legal process, I seriously doubt all Vietnamese singers got permission before they copied foreign songs. Also, it seems like foreign-copied songs blend in with mainstream Vietnamese music, while original Vietnamese songs in Chinese, Japanese, or English, if any, isn't so.

I agree, this has got to stop! That will keep Vietnamese singers sing Vietnamese songs. Lazy singers... sure.gif
Kulong
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 21 2004, 09:10 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 10:05 PM)
Read all the posts please, that was meant to be a sarcastic comment, hence the smilie... sure.gif

Anyway, you don't see Vietnamese songs being copied into Chinese, Japanese, or American songs anywhere near as frequent as the other way around.  Also, if any Vietnamese songs are translated into Chinese, Japanese or English, it's through a legal process, I seriously doubt all Vietnamese singers got permission before they copied foreign songs.  Also, it seems like foreign-copied songs blend in with mainstream Vietnamese music, while original Vietnamese songs in Chinese, Japanese, or English, if any, isn't so.

I agree, this has got to stop! That will keep Vietnamese singers sing Vietnamese songs. Lazy singers... sure.gif

I don't think the Vietnamese singers should receive all the blames. Afterall, the singers ultimately doing what their fans want right? beerchug.gif
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 10:12 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 21 2004, 09:10 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 10:05 PM)
Read all the posts please, that was meant to be a sarcastic comment, hence the smilie... sure.gif

Anyway, you don't see Vietnamese songs being copied into Chinese, Japanese, or American songs anywhere near as frequent as the other way around.  Also, if any Vietnamese songs are translated into Chinese, Japanese or English, it's through a legal process, I seriously doubt all Vietnamese singers got permission before they copied foreign songs.  Also, it seems like foreign-copied songs blend in with mainstream Vietnamese music, while original Vietnamese songs in Chinese, Japanese, or English, if any, isn't so.

I agree, this has got to stop! That will keep Vietnamese singers sing Vietnamese songs. Lazy singers... sure.gif

I don't think the Vietnamese singers should receive all the blames. Afterall, the singers ultimately doing what their fans want right? beerchug.gif

Yes, but they shouldn't do it too much. Where's the nationality in that? Arrgghhh! Vietnamese sing Vietnamese songs, or sing licensed songs from other countries. Fans blans! What do they know about music? embarassedlaugh.gif Just let the singers sing what they want to sing.


J.k.
Kulong
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 21 2004, 09:14 PM)
Yes, but they shouldn't do it too much. Where's the nationality in that? Arrgghhh! Vietnamese sing Vietnamese songs, or sing licensed songs from other countries. Fans blans! What do they know about music? embarassedlaugh.gif Just let the singers sing what they want to sing.

Actually it isn't easy to make it big, and even then, to stay big. Especially now with everyone and their grandma thinking they can be a singer just because they have been to a karaoke bar sure.gif A lot of times singers just do whatever they can make money from.
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 21 2004, 09:14 PM)
Yes, but they shouldn't do it too much. Where's the nationality in that? Arrgghhh! Vietnamese sing Vietnamese songs, or sing licensed songs from other countries. Fans blans! What do they know about music?  embarassedlaugh.gif Just let the singers sing what they want to sing.

Actually it isn't easy to make it big, and even then, to stay big. Especially now with everyone and their grandma thinking they can be a singer just because they have been to a karaoke bar sure.gif A lot of times singers just do whatever they can make money from.

Yes, exactly. Some dudes just went to practice at the karaoke bar for a month, and all the sudden... wham! He's a superstar, WTF is going on?
Kulong
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 21 2004, 09:17 PM)
Yes, exactly. Some dudes just went to practice at the karaoke bar for a month, and all the sudden... wham! He's a superstar, WTF is going on?

Some don't even need to go to a karaoke bar... two words WILLIAM HUNG sure.gif

While I respect him as a person for his courage at the American Idol tryout, but the fact that the American media decided to milk money from this Asian stereotype brings shame to my people... sure.gif
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 10:19 PM)
QUOTE (DAI_VIET @ Apr 21 2004, 09:17 PM)
Yes, exactly. Some dudes just went to practice at the karaoke bar for a month, and all the sudden... wham! He's a superstar, WTF is going on?

Some don't even need to go to a karaoke bar... two words WILLIAM HUNG sure.gif

While I respect him as a person for his courage at the American Idol tryout, but the fact that the American media decided to milk money from this Asian stereotype brings shame to my people... sure.gif

William Hung is truely a disaster for Chinese, and Asian as a whole.
July_Rain
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 10:05 PM)
Read all the posts please, that was meant to be a sarcastic comment, hence the smilie... sure.gif

Anyway, you don't see Vietnamese songs being copied into Chinese, Japanese, or American songs anywhere near as frequent as the other way around. Also, if any Vietnamese songs are translated into Chinese, Japanese or English, it's through a legal process, I seriously doubt all Vietnamese singers got permission before they copied foreign songs. Also, it seems like foreign-copied songs blend in with mainstream Vietnamese music, while original Vietnamese songs in Chinese, Japanese, or English, if any, isn't so.

Yeap, I admit that some Viet singers copied foreigned songs illegally embarassedlaugh.gif
but those stand-out Vietnamese songs sang by Khanh Ly, all are unique Vietnamese style, while foreigned copied songs are usually trendy songs, and it will die after a certain time, while many of Trinh Con Son's songs always being accepted by majority of Vietnamese.
DAI_VIET
QUOTE (July_Rain @ Apr 21 2004, 10:29 PM)
Yeap, I admit that some Viet singers copied foreigned songs illegally embarassedlaugh.gif
but those stand-out Vietnamese songs sang by Khanh Ly, all are unique Vietnamese style, while foreigned copied songs are usually trendy songs, and it will die after a certain time, while many of Trinh Con Son's songs always being accepted by majority of Vietnamese.

While I don't listen to Khanh Ly or Trinh Cong Son, but I agree with you. bowdown.gif
ilovulongtime
“Anyway, you don't see Vietnamese songs being copied into Chinese, Japanese, or American
songs anywhere near as frequent as the other way around.”

as a matter of fact, most of the Chinese songs you listen to being copied by the minority Chinese in viet nam, these chinese people give us a bad name. I hate them. madgo.gif
Kulong
QUOTE (ilovulongtime @ Apr 21 2004, 10:22 PM)
“Anyway, you don't see Vietnamese songs being copied into Chinese, Japanese, or American
songs anywhere near as frequent as the other way around.”

as a matter of fact, most of the Chinese songs you listen to being copied by the minority Chinese in viet nam, these chinese people give us a bad name.  I hate them. madgo.gif

How about you provide some statistics to backup your hatred instead of blaming Chinese for your problems? icon_rolleyes.gif
直隸總督
lol, Chinese giving Vietnamese a bad name? lol, that doesn't seem logical
ilovulongtime
It the fact yo! Here is the list of the Chinese singers

Lam truong
Lay minh
bao chan
truong vu

there are much more but i couldn’t think right at this moment
Kulong
QUOTE (ilovulongtime @ Apr 21 2004, 10:42 PM)
It the fact yo! Here is the list of the Chinese singers

Lam truong
Lay minh
bao chan
truong vu

there are much more but i couldn’t think right at this moment

Giving a list of ethnic Chinese singers in Vietnam means nothing.

You claimed that ethnic Chinese singers in Vietnam are copying Chinese songs and inturn giving Vietnam a bad name. How about you provide some solid evidence to back up your claim? sure.gif
July_Rain
QUOTE (ilovulongtime @ Apr 21 2004, 11:42 PM)
It the fact yo! Here is the list of the Chinese singers

Lam truong
Lay minh
bao chan
truong vu

there are much more but i couldn’t think right at this moment

I thought Truong Vu always sing Vietnamese country music? confused.gif
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (Kulong @ Apr 21 2004, 11:45 PM)
QUOTE (ilovulongtime @ Apr 21 2004, 10:42 PM)
It the fact yo! Here is the list of the Chinese singers

Lam truong
Lay minh
bao chan
truong vu

there are much more but i couldn’t think right at this moment

Giving a list of ethnic Chinese singers in Vietnam means nothing.

You claimed that ethnic Chinese singers in Vietnam are copying Chinese songs and inturn giving Vietnam a bad name. How about you provide some solid evidence to back up your claim? sure.gif

The fact is, and everyone knows that most of the illegal copying done by the ethnic Chinese composers in Vietnam. You don't need proof to this, all Vietnamese people in Vietnam knows this and acknowlege this as a fact. Why must we produce proof? We don't need you Chinese to verify such claims.
huaren
Majority of the Vietnamese song are copy. And they are not original.
Nam Quoc Son Ha
QUOTE (huaren @ Apr 22 2004, 03:10 AM)
Majority of the Vietnamese song are copy. And they are not original.

This is the dumbest comment I've heard today. Care to tell me what you know about Vietnamese pop and music in general? Don't make presumptious remarks if you don't even have a scant knowledge of the subject you're talking about. embarassedlaugh.gif
huaren
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 22 2004, 03:22 AM)
QUOTE (huaren @ Apr 22 2004, 03:10 AM)
Majority of the Vietnamese song are copy. And they are not original.

This is the dumbest comment I've heard today. Care to tell me what you know about Vietnamese pop and music in general? Don't make presumptious remarks if you don't even have a scant knowledge of the subject you're talking about. embarassedlaugh.gif

For your question, A lot of my friend told me that most of the Vietnamese music are copied and not orginal.
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