The Vietnamese National Anthem
Soldiers of Vietnam, we go forward,
With the one will to save our Fatherland
Our hurried steps are sounding on the long and arduous road
Our flag, red with the blood of victory, bears the spirit of our country
The distant rumbling of the guns mingles with our marching song.
The path to glory passes over the bodies of our foes.
Overcoming all hardships, together we build our resistance bases.
Ceaselessly for the people's cause we struggle,
Hastening to the battle field!
Forward! All together advancing!
Our Vietnam is strong eternal.

Soldiers of Vietnam, we go forward,
The gold star of our flag in the wind
Leading our people, our native land, out of misery and suffering
Let us join our efforts in the fight for the building of a new life.
Let us stand up and break our chains.
For too long have we swallowed our hatred
Let us keep ready for all sacrifices and our life will be radiant.
Ceaselessly for the people's cause we struggle,
Hastening to the battlefield!
Forward! All together advancing!
Our Vietnam is strong eternal.

hoooooooooooooochiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigod damn minh................


me love you long time..............................

haha.....................................noi..................to pricking ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

many viet........................................................cong................

Hahahahhahaa... very funny you f-fing idiot. Stupid Khmer kid, doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

Peace.

How very ironic. When the Viet Cong took over the South, the people were more misrable than ever. THe Viet Cong never struggled for the "people's cause," they struggle for the the dog HO cuase, which is to enrich himself and his corrupt officials. Vietnam was put more in chains than ever. What a ridiculous song that doesn't reflect reality.

Goddamn it herosword, can't you see that the Khmers are trashing Vietnam's national anthem? We are trying to defend it, and you're here laughing at the national anthem. Gosh, I can't believe this.

Don't you tell me that it's Cong San's national anthem, at least it's Vietnamese and it's the current national anthem, and you're sitting there laughing at it. Reading that post just lowered my IQ down.

French dogs have never done anything for the cause of liberating the Vietnamese from the French am i right herosword?

hey im 100% khmer krom born in prake rasey, kampuchea krom or viet version(cantho, vietnam) seen you guys murdered all my neighbor, we be livin by ourselft and im scare my butt off man. but now im in u.s, im free. also almost all khmerkrom.net peoples are khmer krom born in kampuchea krom, your version(south vietnam). none of your claimed about us and we being give the rights is wrong. we're none exist from the outside world. you steal our land, our oil, our dog everything.

Ho Chi Minh's Dog have done nothing except leech off the Vietnamese people. Liberating vietnam...haha give me a break. Dogs like you put more chain on it. Go sniff uncle Ho's @$$.

It's the Cong San national athemn and they can bash it all they want. It's the single yellow star, not the three red stripes. THey're attacking the dog Ho not the Vietnamese people. When they switch to that tactic, I'll be there defending my people with you Dai_Viet.

You got that right, go get mad somewhere else. Yeah, we stole your dogs, too. Very good dogs to watch our doors in case some Khmer Rouge comes in and kill us. Ewww... scary thoughts.

I read an interview with a U.S general about what he thought about the South Vietnamese army. He said that they never had their hearts in the war. They only fought because they were getting a lot of money from the U.S for it.

Also the Vietnamese who helped the French fight against the Vietminh were promised their own private lands and money if they helped the French.

These Vietnamese who hated the Vietcong and Ho Chi Minh and support Diem and his regime are really only in it for the money that they have to beg from their French masters.

LOL Most of those beautiful buildings in Vietnam were only for Europeons and I probably Vietnamese were not allowed in except for the Vietnamese butlers and slaves. LOL

South Vietnam only did it for the money, Ho Chi Minh even wrote in his death testament he spent his whole life for the freedom of Vietnam and he even said he didn't want a grand funeral so he wouldn't waste Vietnamese land that belonged to the people and dreamed of Vietnam being 10 times more beautiful.

I say we should make Ho's dream come true and make Vietnam 10 times more beautiful yet these South Vietnamese supporters want to prevent that and want more economic embargos on Vietnam and keep Vietnam poor.

Oh Come on???

WTF... then how come my dad's generals like many South Vietnam generals committed sucide while their families were escaping the north vietnamese?


And the front line of most battle were South Vietnamese soldiers, not american soldiers like all the movies you saw now.

I don't remember if there was even one French dog that took part in the battle of Dien Bien Phu to liberate the Vietnamese people from the French.

THere was a the Vietnamese National party (pro-democracy party) that the Vietminh stab in the back after the battle of Dien Bien Phu. Don't use the word liberate, Ho dog. They were sniffing the Soviet Union's @$$ in this case not liberating anything; they put Communist chain on Vietnam.

And to answer byron, Diem was a nationalist not a french supporter. You got your knowledge from more communist propaganda. Here's a more unbiased site about Ho and Diem. Dummies: the Leaders of the Vietnam War

Open-minded people, read it at your leisure.

Yeah there were Vietnamese that fought in Diem Bien Phu for the French, a lot of the troops for the French army were people from the other colonies of France brought in to help the French and also Vietnamese loyal to French.

Ok how come South Vietnam lost to North Vietnam sooooooo easily after the U.S left? The U.S basically weaked North Vietnam and killed 1 million of Vietcong and NVA died. While 200,000 South Vietnamese troops. When the U.S left.

Yet South Vietnam were easily decimated by North Vietnam.

Why?

Because North Vietnam was willing to die for their cause of liberty of Vietnam from invaders. While the South only did it for the money and so weren't willing to risk their lives as much which is why they gave up so easily when only losing 200,000 but the NVA and Vietcong lost about 1 milllion and kept on going.

You can tell who has the better cause by the way they fight. If they are willing to die and fight so hard then they probably have a good reason for willing to fight against all odds. But if they fight like crap and give up easily then they probably have no good cause to fight and give up easily because they don't want to risk their lives.

If South Vietnam actually had a good cause they would easilly defeated the weakened NVA forces.

I DO BELIEVE HO AND DIEM WERE NATIONALISTS.

changing the topic, Byron. but go read historical intrepretation of why South Vietnam lost. We were kicking Viet Cong's @$$ with Diem as the leader. but you always change the subject when you found you have lost a point. haha

French dogs did not take part in the battle of Dien Bien Phu but it thinks that it "deserves" a piece of Vietnam or something, how pathetic is that.

Because Viet Cong always has better weapon than South Vietnam even though we were supported by American, ask any South Vietnamese captains...

Viet Cong is always supported by *cough* China *cough* and Russia constantly and violating the land of Laos and Khmer to move to south, while south vietnam was literally abandoned by the U.S

Did you know the Vietcong once caught Diem and held him prisoner, but Ho Chi Minh talked to Diem about how important it was for Vietnamese brothers to stick together, but Diem as a prisoner kept on whining to Ho Chi Minh about how evil he was and crap, but at the end Ho Chi Minh actually FREED him and let him go. I can't believe Ho Chi Minh did that. I wonder if Diem would have done the same thing or executed him?

Also you say the Vietcong had better weapons because they were supported by Russia and China.

But the U.S gave South Vietnam weapons and U.S weapons are actually better as well.

Diem is a child of a mandarin family, and he spent his young adulthood in American church.

You're right French dog was fighting for the French. The nationalist party was for the people. The Viet Cong dogs like you were fighting for the Soviet and your batard Uncle Ho. haha. Stupid Viet Cong; how can you carry the nationalist flag? because you're a hyprocrtical brainwash Soviet dog.

but it's not update as well as the one north vietnamese got, and one reason south vietnamese lose is the location. If Vietnam is a penisula like Korean, there is no chance north vietnamese could go to south

The nationalist party was not a French dog son. All of the sudden i remember that 37% of the French force of 20,000 at the battle of Dien Bien Phu was made up of French dogs like you.............traitor.

I do belive that South Vietnam was much better when Diem was in control. That was the height of South Vietnam's military system, even though there were some corrupt generals in South Vietnam. But anyhow, after Diem died, that was the end of South Vietnam, Thieu was nothing but a puppet under the watchful eye of the US.

There were some good and brave generals of the South, too. They committed suicide after the fall of Saigon, those were true heroes. Some even fled, and some didn't even fire a bullet, how shamefull of them. Commanding an army and you ran before your men, that's just against the rule of leadership. <<<sigh>>> Some were sleeping while the SVN soldiers fought and died. Gosh, how the heck did they got the rank of a general?

Still 1 million NVA and Vietcong died and they were really weakened after the Tet Offensive. They were considering on surrendering until the news of the Tet offensive made U.S news and everyone started protesting to tell the U.S to leave, and the Vietcong decided to just hold on until the U.S left.

Even when the North took over the South the North was SHOCKED at how easily the South Vietnamese army collapased and surrendered many battles sooooo easily.

The South probably surrendered sooooo easily because they didn't have a good cause to fight, they knew the North had the right cause and that's why they surrendred so easily.

Ok even if the NVA had better weapons it was still no excuse for the South to surrender soooooo fast without even giving the NVA a fight and the NVA were really weakened after America left as well.

Thieu and Ky were pretty fast in "dashing", especially in 1975.

amen

true...very true...



You just keep on believing that. What a simplified explaination...

There were two families that both had a problem internally.

One family ran out to the streets to scream and shout. Not understanding their own problems, giving others to witness their foolishness.

The other family however stayed indoors and worked it out inside the family. Hiding all from the eyes of outsiders.


"Understand why Vietnam is the Vietnam today. Find out for yourself, not from others. Research it, don't simply leave yourself brainwashed by what others have said. Because they are not only laughing at you only. They are laughing at us as a whole."

I'm proud of Vietnam the way it is today. Not for what it could have been, or what it is not. But for what Vietnam should always be. A united country.

Very well...said...but there is nothing to hide. One must confront the problem that Vietnam has. Open govt is something I highly value instead of blind patriotism.

Well, I am glad that you agreed with me on that!

Hey man...we have all differences on how to help the Viet people, but the important thing is we want to help the Viet people.

Also I was taught to hate the North by my fellow Vietnamese friends in school, but and I fell for it too and started hating the North and Ho Chi Minh.

Then I decided to read some articles on Ho Chi Minh and the Vietnam war and I realized that Ho Chi Minh wasn't a bad guy after all and even Westerners praised him as a hero and he was very humble.

I came to conclusion that the NVA and Vietcong had the right position in the war. They freed Vietnam from the French and Vietnam would not have been in the state it is today if it wasn't for the U.S and operation rolling thunder where they dropped more bombs on Vietnam then all the bombs in world war 2 which destroyed 1/3 of Vietnamese land, and made Vietnam a poor country with their bombings. The point of Operation Rolling Thunder was to hurt the economony of Vietnam and stuff.

America and the South killed more Vietnamese civilians with their bombs and atrocities than the North Vietnam and Vietcong did.

hear hear. Diem regime though not perfect, revived South Viet Nam's economy and strengthened the country overall. He distrusted the Americans and the Americans knew that. They resented him, and had their CIA wiped him and his brother out. I've never heard of a country in modern warfare go behind your ally's back and kill the government, everybody that followed suit was more disasterous than Diem.
VNCH had terrible leadership but the Americans had to admit the resilience and adaptive abilities of the south Vietnamese soldiers. Tet Offensive anyone?
Am I finally seeing peace in this forum? Herosword, I understand your sentiments but the more you learn about current developments of countries everywhere, it's no use holding on to spite and disregard your people just because you don't agree with the government.

Well said! When I was young, all I was taught about Viet Congs, was that they were just bad men and murderers.
(*Watch those American versions of the Vietnam war, and you will understand*)
And to love the yellow Vietnamese flag with the three red strips.

Later in life I learnt that this flag was given to us by the French government when Vietnam went through heavy colonization. Where Vietnam belonged to a western country pocketing on Vietnamese resources.

true. but don't expect me to stop criticizing the govt. If it's corrupted, it is corrupted and the truth must be known.



Well, lots of Viet Cong are bad man and murderers and that is the truth. I had a different story from you. I was born in Vietnam and was taught to love the Viet Cong and hate America and the South Vietnamese govt. After I learned the truth, I hated the Viet Cong. how ironic.

THe color of the flag comes from our national character dating back long before the French. The Freedom flag represent me and many Vietnamese. If you don't like it, I guess you could wave the Viet Cong flag, just don't expect many to follow your lead.

No, I'm telling you to criticize where is necessary and to be open-minded about other's opinions. I don't think Byron or Dai Viet or anyone else should be labeled Cong San just because they don't full-fledge oppose the regime. I use to cringe at the sound of the title Xa Hoi Chu Nghia but now, I have to say that I don't oppose it because I'm not in Viet Nam and from the look of how the country has carried itself in the last year, the government should be given some credit.

Also Nguyen Cao Ky said that during the French colonization of Vietnam, the literacy rate was horrible.

But now according to the CIA world factbook Vietnam now has one of the higest literacy rates in the world with 94% of the population being literate.

Even India praised Vietnam for their literacy rate.

The government isn't as horrible as you think.

Mad props on the literacy rate, big whoppin 94%, I think our immunization rate is very high as well just not sure of the exact percentage, and my all-time favorite GDP-7%, hehehe, sorry i'm an economist in training sooo yeah...

And I do give it credit. Has my attack ever been unjust? It still has got a long way to go. And Byron is a Cong San if he supports the govt. haha. read his naive post and absolute adoration of Ho. I will defend South Vietnam from his unsrupulous attacks on it. Dai_Viet is a nationalist, perhaps misguided by his fervent patrotism, but not a Cong San. But people are who they are. I'm not going to be politically correct about it just like I not going to be blind to the corruption of the Cong San govt for the sake of Vietnamese unity. THis unity favors the communists and not the people.

You're right, that flag came about in 1890 during the colonial time. The French were pretty smart in their strategy of dividing the Vietnamese people like other European powers that used the divide-and-conquer strategy in Africa. The 3-strip flag was a hidden message that the French tried to tell us Vietnamese that we were not the same group of people but we were 3 separate distinct groups instead, what a wonderful strategy to divide the Vietnamese people.

The flag that represents Vietnam is the red flag with the yellow star. That flag is flown at the head quarter of the United Nation and it is recognized by the U.N as well. That flag will be flown at any international sporting event also. During the South East Asian "Olympic" games months ago, the Vietnamese people proudly carried that flag to every game to cheer for their country; you won't see the Vietnamese carried that French colonial flag (the flag that Viet traitors have to lobby at everywhere to get permission to hang it at public places) at all.

The yellow flag with the tri red stripes doesn't have its place in any formal event or institution because it now represents the democracy the Vietnamese should continue to fight for. The red flag with the yellow star may be the official flag but it was just another bite-off of someone else's. Both don't need to have a wonderful origin but each flag means something to different people.

drunk_on_tea is right. just because a national symbol doesn't have a good origin doesn't mean its value is tainted. the current official Vietnamese flag is merely an adaptation to Communist China's. The VNCH's national anthem, believe it or not, actually came from an anti-French patriot who later turned Communist. It used to be called "Tieng Goi Thanh Nien." So just to let u know, we have adopted that anthem to represent freedom.

Haha...actually during the World Cup and Olympics I saw people carrying the freedom stripes. Only Cong San carry the Viet Cong flag and I never seen anyone besides the athletes carrying it. Are you suggesting that Vietnamese abroad are Viet Cong. haha. You live in Cali right? go outside and take a look. Communists are naive and full of lies. What about the guy who tried to hang Ho's picture in his video store. He's out of business now. I wish you would show yourself tqt. We'll give you the proper welcome.

Go Drunk on Tea!...perhaps you're not so drunk on the flag issue.

French dog like you are quite ignorant about Vietnam. Do you know that the South East Asian Olympic game was hosted by Vietnam just months ago? Have you seen those pictures in which the stadium was packed with Vietnamese who carried that red flag of Vietnam to the game to support for their team? Open your eyes son, the Vietnamese do not worship that French colonial flag of yours at all.

Open your own eyes son. If it's hosted in Vietnam do you think that the govt would allow people to carry the yellow stripes. Fool, you come to conclusions too quickly, but Ho's dog were never noted for their intelligent. They just sniffed his @$$ real good.

Vietnam is a Commie country dude! In this country where freedom of expression is kept at a minimum, do you think mainland Vietnamese would carry a yellow flag to get whooped? i don't think so.

EDIT: YEAH WHAT HEROSWORD SAID

You're such a fool who really believe that the majority of the Vietnamese people would worship that French colonial flag of yours. Do you even know that your "freedom" flag was on the side of your French master while the red flag was doing the fighting at the battle of Dien Bien Phu to liberate the Viets from the French? I bet you don't know because you were still shining the shoes of your French masters just to get any left-over food of your master isn't it?

The Sea Games was in Viet Nam guys, no striped flag would have appeared there.