Author. Who killed our Khmer families from 1973-79?
The brutal mass killings was similar to the ones the Vietnamese used to kill our Khmer Krom people during the Emperor Ming Mang, 1840, HCM and Emperor Bao Dai, 1945, and from 1973-79 when the "Mysterious Anonymous higher Organization" in Khmer "Angkar Leu", in Viet "Cap Tren".
Ho Chi MINH’D so many different names. Who created Indochina Communist party in 1930, whose brutal ambitions to incorporate Cambodia Kandal, KK and Laos.
Ho had promised to the King Sihanouk "if Your Majesty help me to fight against the American Imperialist and their reactionaries. I'll cede KK back to you when the war was over."
But when the war, known as "Vietnam War" was completely over in 1975. And Ho knew that the war was going to win over the powerful American imperialists but no brain in jungle war. He had poisoned himself to his death in 1969 to seal off his loyalty promises to King Sihanouk. In his book "War & Hope", in 1979, stated that "Let there be no mistake! The liberation of South Vietnam, the total defeat of American imperialism in Vietnam, the reunification of Vietnam were all made possible by our military prowess in Kampuchea and the fact that we have given so much help to the Yuons for so many years. We gave them lodging, food, did them countless other favors without our help. HCM followers would have been destroyed long ago of the Americans. So then if this slips the Yuons' minds and they repay our kindness with ingratitude-as their ancestors did our ancestors-we will annihilate them."
"Khieu Samphan, and his comrades explained to me. (Norodom Sihanouk), regarding this. That the North Vietnamese desperately wanted to n!p KR power in the bud so as to prepare for the coming to power (after a foreseeable victory over the U.S. and Lon Nol) of a government that would be Cambodian in appearance only and in reality Vietnam's servant."
"That is, after their patriotic duty! And it is their right to keep on fighting... down to the last Cambodian, if we Khmers are so blinded by personal ambition or so careless we fall into the traps they set for us."
When the Khmer Rouges "KR" took over Phnom Penh in 1975, Vietnamese soldiers dressed as real KR soldiers to collect their Vietnamese citizens living in Cambodia back to KK/South Vietnam. A Long the Mekong River, in those days, there were full of Vietnamese boat peoples heading to KK/South Vietnam, who I saw my own eyes. The between 1975 and 1978. The Vietnamese disguised soldiers/Yutheas as rea Khmer Rouge soldiers, who started at their will to brutally murder our Khmer families who were accused of being Vietnamese spies/secret agents, but in fact they-disguised Yuons ferociously killed Khmer Krom in cold blood who didn't want to go to their homeland-KK. And then the Yuon Leaders told the world happily that KR brutally killed Vietnamese citizens living in Cambodia. rubbish!
When my families, Uncles' and aunts' families were brutally forced out of Phum Taprohm, Sangkat Prek Eng Srok Kiensvay Khet Kandal. We all reached at the bank of Chrouy Dang-close to Neak Leung. While we all were staying at this bank, a group of Vietnamese soldiers dressed as KR soldiers in a boat rowing toward us-refugees by asking my mother in VN who can speak Vietnamese to go back home/South Vietnam. But my mother refused to go back to South Vietnam.
My all dearest! Khmer patriots! Many of us Khmers misunderstood that the KR killed our Brothers and Sisters, but in fact, the Vietnamese soldiers, who can speak Khmer more fluently than many of us Khmers, by using our KR soldiers' hands to kill us Khmers instead.
A KK lady, who's living in NZ, come to Australia and told me that when KR took over Phnom Penh 1975, the Vietnamese soldiers dressed as KR soldiers had collected and separated KK people from Vietnamese families in Battambang. Her uncle, was a real KK married to his Vietnamese wife, who brutally separated from his family, was led away to be cruelly butchered near a bush-not far away from his village.
Before POL Pot, died in 1997, told the world that he didn't liberate his country for killing his own people. But the Vietnamese carried on the Killing fields was shown on Channel 10 at 6pm in Australia.
That's why William Shawcross wrote his book "The Destruction of Cambodia" in 1986, that "Nixon (President of USA) evidently believed in 1973 (and still in 197 that the Khmer Rouge were controlled by Hanoi and were amenable to Moscow."
Hanoi declared to the world that they withdrew their troops/faces stationed in Cambodia in 1973 from the Arena of International. But in fact they secretly hid their bums/buttocks in the forests/jungles in Cambodia. To wait for the ripe time to come to kill all of us Khmers as they did kill our Khmer families-as King Sihanouk stated in his "War & Hope) that "The Kampuchean people are on the brink of extinction. Dying a slow death, murdered in the name of two conflicting types of Communism. It is a struggle to the death between Kampuchea and Vietnamese Communism; it is also a dispute between the two Communist giants they represent, China and Russia."
The first brutal aims of Vietnamese leaders are to kill all classes of Khmers are: teacher, professors, intellectuals, engineers, doctors, nurses, historians, Buddhist monks, officials/officers and soldiers...etc.
We all Khmer Victims only ask ourselves 3 questions and we'll then know straigthaway the answers: "Who keep conquering and encroaching our lands so far so worse?" "Who killed our families from 1973-1979?" Why did they do that to us-Khmers?"
Please all Khmers use your brain to think over what your enemies' tactful tricks and tactics!
Please read more books in English and in our Khmer language. Please, please, please do not believe what your enemies told you?
Lord Buddha told us in his Dharma book, "You must consider carefully what they told you. You must see it on your own. You must not believe what you didn't see on your own!"
Please all Khmers wake up from your daydream! Beware of Yuons in Cambodia, today! Because they're former members of Angkar Leu/Cap Tren and Vietminh/Vietcong who are still alive who had secretly and brutally killed our Khmer families!!! Yuon Leaders are the worst violators of human rights on earth!
I lived through Pol Pot era in Cambodia. I grew up in Phnom Penh and had number of relative who married to our Khmer from Khmer Krom. During Pol Pot I witnessed many signs of struggle of Pol-Pot regime to fight the Vietnamese infiltration within his government. As I learned from the local people that between the 1970-1973, the Khmer Rouge got helps from the VC to fight war against the Republic Government of general Lon Nol. But in late 1973, KR realized about the long term planning of the Vietnamese to conquer Cambodia after the war, begun to expel VC out of Cambodia. There were places where VC failed to comply and KR exterminated and buried them there. When the war over, there were no immediate killing in Cambodia. But about a year later, I noticed there was strange movement of leadership changing hand within the area where I was forced to resettle. The new KR leader who claimed to be sent in to resume new control of the towns and villages talked about issues of Khmer Krom and Vietnam and seemed to pay much attention about learning the detail of where all the grave sites of the VC in the areas. Many sites had been dugged up and the bones of VC were said to be sent to PP. Why KR care about VC remains is very suspicious to me. The next thing those strange KR did was looking for any KK or anyone who can speak Vietnamese. They succeeded in finding out some of them. What they did with them I did not know. One family of my KK relatives was one of them. Not too long after that, the killings started. It was carried out by the same group of that strange KR. One of my KK relative told me that one night he heard several KR leaders speak to each other in Vietnamese. He could not hear the detail of their conversation. He suspects that these groups of KR were actually Khmer VM or agents of VC who buried themselve inside the KR government. Eight month into the massacre, two third of the city resettlement families were gone. My sister died from forced labor and starvation. All my remaining KK uncles and aunts’ families were disappeared over night. Soon after that the new group of KR leaders showed up with heavy army and body guards took control of the towns and villages. Many people witnessed the arrest or even execution of the former suspected Vietnamese KR by the new arrival KR. Some villagers said to have seen them burned things at their compound then escaped into the woods a night before the new KR arrived. The new Khmer Rouge groups tried to talk about reconciliation among all Khmers and even recruited many left over city young men into their military unit. They talked about war with Vietnam at the border. Now if it is in fact that those KR who actually killed people in my town were really a Vietnamese agent, I think it is possible that the Vietnamese has a lot to do with the over all one million deaths of Cambodian else where throughout the country. After all we all know how deep the Vietnamese's hypocrisy has always been toward the Khmer people. How can Khmers forget all about!!! Its very so painful and miserable of longlife...
KhmerRevolution,
RockHeart.
:genius:
Full Version: Who Was Genocided The Khmers?
QUOTE (RockHeart @ Mar 17 2004, 08:05 PM)
Author. Who killed our Khmer families from 1973-79?
The brutal mass killings was similar to the ones the Vietnamese used to kill our Khmer Krom people during the Emperor Ming Mang, 1840, HCM and Emperor Bao Dai, 1945, and from 1973-79 when the "Mysterious Anonymous higher Organization" in Khmer "Angkar Leu", in Viet "Cap Tren".
Ho Chi MINH’D so many different names. Who created Indochina Communist party in 1930, whose brutal ambitions to incorporate Cambodia Kandal, KK and Laos.
Ho had promised to the King Sihanouk "if Your Majesty help me to fight against the American Imperialist and their reactionaries. I'll cede KK back to you when the war was over."
But when the war, known as "Vietnam War" was completely over in 1975. And Ho knew that the war was going to win over the powerful American imperialists but no brain in jungle war. He had poisoned himself to his death in 1969 to seal off his loyalty promises to King Sihanouk. In his book "War & Hope", in 1979, stated that "Let there be no mistake! The liberation of South Vietnam, the total defeat of American imperialism in Vietnam, the reunification of Vietnam were all made possible by our military prowess in Kampuchea and the fact that we have given so much help to the Yuons for so many years. We gave them lodging, food, did them countless other favors without our help. HCM followers would have been destroyed long ago of the Americans. So then if this slips the Yuons' minds and they repay our kindness with ingratitude-as their ancestors did our ancestors-we will annihilate them."
"Khieu Samphan, and his comrades explained to me. (Norodom Sihanouk), regarding this. That the North Vietnamese desperately wanted to n!p KR power in the bud so as to prepare for the coming to power (after a foreseeable victory over the U.S. and Lon Nol) of a government that would be Cambodian in appearance only and in reality Vietnam's servant."
"That is, after their patriotic duty! And it is their right to keep on fighting... down to the last Cambodian, if we Khmers are so blinded by personal ambition or so careless we fall into the traps they set for us."
When the Khmer Rouges "KR" took over Phnom Penh in 1975, Vietnamese soldiers dressed as real KR soldiers to collect their Vietnamese citizens living in Cambodia back to KK/South Vietnam. A Long the Mekong River, in those days, there were full of Vietnamese boat peoples heading to KK/South Vietnam, who I saw my own eyes. The between 1975 and 1978. The Vietnamese disguised soldiers/Yutheas as rea Khmer Rouge soldiers, who started at their will to brutally murder our Khmer families who were accused of being Vietnamese spies/secret agents, but in fact they-disguised Yuons ferociously killed Khmer Krom in cold blood who didn't want to go to their homeland-KK. And then the Yuon Leaders told the world happily that KR brutally killed Vietnamese citizens living in Cambodia. rubbish!
When my families, Uncles' and aunts' families were brutally forced out of Phum Taprohm, Sangkat Prek Eng Srok Kiensvay Khet Kandal. We all reached at the bank of Chrouy Dang-close to Neak Leung. While we all were staying at this bank, a group of Vietnamese soldiers dressed as KR soldiers in a boat rowing toward us-refugees by asking my mother in VN who can speak Vietnamese to go back home/South Vietnam. But my mother refused to go back to South Vietnam.
My all dearest! Khmer patriots! Many of us Khmers misunderstood that the KR killed our Brothers and Sisters, but in fact, the Vietnamese soldiers, who can speak Khmer more fluently than many of us Khmers, by using our KR soldiers' hands to kill us Khmers instead.
A KK lady, who's living in NZ, come to Australia and told me that when KR took over Phnom Penh 1975, the Vietnamese soldiers dressed as KR soldiers had collected and separated KK people from Vietnamese families in Battambang. Her uncle, was a real KK married to his Vietnamese wife, who brutally separated from his family, was led away to be cruelly butchered near a bush-not far away from his village.
Before POL Pot, died in 1997, told the world that he didn't liberate his country for killing his own people. But the Vietnamese carried on the Killing fields was shown on Channel 10 at 6pm in Australia.
That's why William Shawcross wrote his book "The Destruction of Cambodia" in 1986, that "Nixon (President of USA) evidently believed in 1973 (and still in 197 that the Khmer Rouge were controlled by Hanoi and were amenable to Moscow."
Hanoi declared to the world that they withdrew their troops/faces stationed in Cambodia in 1973 from the Arena of International. But in fact they secretly hid their bums/buttocks in the forests/jungles in Cambodia. To wait for the ripe time to come to kill all of us Khmers as they did kill our Khmer families-as King Sihanouk stated in his "War & Hope) that "The Kampuchean people are on the brink of extinction. Dying a slow death, murdered in the name of two conflicting types of Communism. It is a struggle to the death between Kampuchea and Vietnamese Communism; it is also a dispute between the two Communist giants they represent, China and Russia."
The first brutal aims of Vietnamese leaders are to kill all classes of Khmers are: teacher, professors, intellectuals, engineers, doctors, nurses, historians, Buddhist monks, officials/officers and soldiers...etc.
We all Khmer Victims only ask ourselves 3 questions and we'll then know straigthaway the answers: "Who keep conquering and encroaching our lands so far so worse?" "Who killed our families from 1973-1979?" Why did they do that to us-Khmers?"
Please all Khmers use your brain to think over what your enemies' tactful tricks and tactics!
Please read more books in English and in our Khmer language. Please, please, please do not believe what your enemies told you?
Lord Buddha told us in his Dharma book, "You must consider carefully what they told you. You must see it on your own. You must not believe what you didn't see on your own!"
Please all Khmers wake up from your daydream! Beware of Yuons in Cambodia, today! Because they're former members of Angkar Leu/Cap Tren and Vietminh/Vietcong who are still alive who had secretly and brutally killed our Khmer families!!! Yuon Leaders are the worst violators of human rights on earth!
I lived through Pol Pot era in Cambodia. I grew up in Phnom Penh and had number of relative who married to our Khmer from Khmer Krom. During Pol Pot I witnessed many signs of struggle of Pol-Pot regime to fight the Vietnamese infiltration within his government. As I learned from the local people that between the 1970-1973, the Khmer Rouge got helps from the VC to fight war against the Republic Government of general Lon Nol. But in late 1973, KR realized about the long term planning of the Vietnamese to conquer Cambodia after the war, begun to expel VC out of Cambodia. There were places where VC failed to comply and KR exterminated and buried them there. When the war over, there were no immediate killing in Cambodia. But about a year later, I noticed there was strange movement of leadership changing hand within the area where I was forced to resettle. The new KR leader who claimed to be sent in to resume new control of the towns and villages talked about issues of Khmer Krom and Vietnam and seemed to pay much attention about learning the detail of where all the grave sites of the VC in the areas. Many sites had been dugged up and the bones of VC were said to be sent to PP. Why KR care about VC remains is very suspicious to me. The next thing those strange KR did was looking for any KK or anyone who can speak Vietnamese. They succeeded in finding out some of them. What they did with them I did not know. One family of my KK relatives was one of them. Not too long after that, the killings started. It was carried out by the same group of that strange KR. One of my KK relative told me that one night he heard several KR leaders speak to each other in Vietnamese. He could not hear the detail of their conversation. He suspects that these groups of KR were actually Khmer VM or agents of VC who buried themselve inside the KR government. Eight month into the massacre, two third of the city resettlement families were gone. My sister died from forced labor and starvation. All my remaining KK uncles and aunts’ families were disappeared over night. Soon after that the new group of KR leaders showed up with heavy army and body guards took control of the towns and villages. Many people witnessed the arrest or even execution of the former suspected Vietnamese KR by the new arrival KR. Some villagers said to have seen them burned things at their compound then escaped into the woods a night before the new KR arrived. The new Khmer Rouge groups tried to talk about reconciliation among all Khmers and even recruited many left over city young men into their military unit. They talked about war with Vietnam at the border. Now if it is in fact that those KR who actually killed people in my town were really a Vietnamese agent, I think it is possible that the Vietnamese has a lot to do with the over all one million deaths of Cambodian else where throughout the country. After all we all know how deep the Vietnamese's hypocrisy has always been toward the Khmer people. How can Khmers forget all about!!! Its very so painful and miserable of longlife...
KhmerRevolution,
RockHeart.
:genius:
The brutal mass killings was similar to the ones the Vietnamese used to kill our Khmer Krom people during the Emperor Ming Mang, 1840, HCM and Emperor Bao Dai, 1945, and from 1973-79 when the "Mysterious Anonymous higher Organization" in Khmer "Angkar Leu", in Viet "Cap Tren".
Ho Chi MINH’D so many different names. Who created Indochina Communist party in 1930, whose brutal ambitions to incorporate Cambodia Kandal, KK and Laos.
Ho had promised to the King Sihanouk "if Your Majesty help me to fight against the American Imperialist and their reactionaries. I'll cede KK back to you when the war was over."
But when the war, known as "Vietnam War" was completely over in 1975. And Ho knew that the war was going to win over the powerful American imperialists but no brain in jungle war. He had poisoned himself to his death in 1969 to seal off his loyalty promises to King Sihanouk. In his book "War & Hope", in 1979, stated that "Let there be no mistake! The liberation of South Vietnam, the total defeat of American imperialism in Vietnam, the reunification of Vietnam were all made possible by our military prowess in Kampuchea and the fact that we have given so much help to the Yuons for so many years. We gave them lodging, food, did them countless other favors without our help. HCM followers would have been destroyed long ago of the Americans. So then if this slips the Yuons' minds and they repay our kindness with ingratitude-as their ancestors did our ancestors-we will annihilate them."
"Khieu Samphan, and his comrades explained to me. (Norodom Sihanouk), regarding this. That the North Vietnamese desperately wanted to n!p KR power in the bud so as to prepare for the coming to power (after a foreseeable victory over the U.S. and Lon Nol) of a government that would be Cambodian in appearance only and in reality Vietnam's servant."
"That is, after their patriotic duty! And it is their right to keep on fighting... down to the last Cambodian, if we Khmers are so blinded by personal ambition or so careless we fall into the traps they set for us."
When the Khmer Rouges "KR" took over Phnom Penh in 1975, Vietnamese soldiers dressed as real KR soldiers to collect their Vietnamese citizens living in Cambodia back to KK/South Vietnam. A Long the Mekong River, in those days, there were full of Vietnamese boat peoples heading to KK/South Vietnam, who I saw my own eyes. The between 1975 and 1978. The Vietnamese disguised soldiers/Yutheas as rea Khmer Rouge soldiers, who started at their will to brutally murder our Khmer families who were accused of being Vietnamese spies/secret agents, but in fact they-disguised Yuons ferociously killed Khmer Krom in cold blood who didn't want to go to their homeland-KK. And then the Yuon Leaders told the world happily that KR brutally killed Vietnamese citizens living in Cambodia. rubbish!
When my families, Uncles' and aunts' families were brutally forced out of Phum Taprohm, Sangkat Prek Eng Srok Kiensvay Khet Kandal. We all reached at the bank of Chrouy Dang-close to Neak Leung. While we all were staying at this bank, a group of Vietnamese soldiers dressed as KR soldiers in a boat rowing toward us-refugees by asking my mother in VN who can speak Vietnamese to go back home/South Vietnam. But my mother refused to go back to South Vietnam.
My all dearest! Khmer patriots! Many of us Khmers misunderstood that the KR killed our Brothers and Sisters, but in fact, the Vietnamese soldiers, who can speak Khmer more fluently than many of us Khmers, by using our KR soldiers' hands to kill us Khmers instead.
A KK lady, who's living in NZ, come to Australia and told me that when KR took over Phnom Penh 1975, the Vietnamese soldiers dressed as KR soldiers had collected and separated KK people from Vietnamese families in Battambang. Her uncle, was a real KK married to his Vietnamese wife, who brutally separated from his family, was led away to be cruelly butchered near a bush-not far away from his village.
Before POL Pot, died in 1997, told the world that he didn't liberate his country for killing his own people. But the Vietnamese carried on the Killing fields was shown on Channel 10 at 6pm in Australia.
That's why William Shawcross wrote his book "The Destruction of Cambodia" in 1986, that "Nixon (President of USA) evidently believed in 1973 (and still in 197 that the Khmer Rouge were controlled by Hanoi and were amenable to Moscow."
Hanoi declared to the world that they withdrew their troops/faces stationed in Cambodia in 1973 from the Arena of International. But in fact they secretly hid their bums/buttocks in the forests/jungles in Cambodia. To wait for the ripe time to come to kill all of us Khmers as they did kill our Khmer families-as King Sihanouk stated in his "War & Hope) that "The Kampuchean people are on the brink of extinction. Dying a slow death, murdered in the name of two conflicting types of Communism. It is a struggle to the death between Kampuchea and Vietnamese Communism; it is also a dispute between the two Communist giants they represent, China and Russia."
The first brutal aims of Vietnamese leaders are to kill all classes of Khmers are: teacher, professors, intellectuals, engineers, doctors, nurses, historians, Buddhist monks, officials/officers and soldiers...etc.
We all Khmer Victims only ask ourselves 3 questions and we'll then know straigthaway the answers: "Who keep conquering and encroaching our lands so far so worse?" "Who killed our families from 1973-1979?" Why did they do that to us-Khmers?"
Please all Khmers use your brain to think over what your enemies' tactful tricks and tactics!
Please read more books in English and in our Khmer language. Please, please, please do not believe what your enemies told you?
Lord Buddha told us in his Dharma book, "You must consider carefully what they told you. You must see it on your own. You must not believe what you didn't see on your own!"
Please all Khmers wake up from your daydream! Beware of Yuons in Cambodia, today! Because they're former members of Angkar Leu/Cap Tren and Vietminh/Vietcong who are still alive who had secretly and brutally killed our Khmer families!!! Yuon Leaders are the worst violators of human rights on earth!
I lived through Pol Pot era in Cambodia. I grew up in Phnom Penh and had number of relative who married to our Khmer from Khmer Krom. During Pol Pot I witnessed many signs of struggle of Pol-Pot regime to fight the Vietnamese infiltration within his government. As I learned from the local people that between the 1970-1973, the Khmer Rouge got helps from the VC to fight war against the Republic Government of general Lon Nol. But in late 1973, KR realized about the long term planning of the Vietnamese to conquer Cambodia after the war, begun to expel VC out of Cambodia. There were places where VC failed to comply and KR exterminated and buried them there. When the war over, there were no immediate killing in Cambodia. But about a year later, I noticed there was strange movement of leadership changing hand within the area where I was forced to resettle. The new KR leader who claimed to be sent in to resume new control of the towns and villages talked about issues of Khmer Krom and Vietnam and seemed to pay much attention about learning the detail of where all the grave sites of the VC in the areas. Many sites had been dugged up and the bones of VC were said to be sent to PP. Why KR care about VC remains is very suspicious to me. The next thing those strange KR did was looking for any KK or anyone who can speak Vietnamese. They succeeded in finding out some of them. What they did with them I did not know. One family of my KK relatives was one of them. Not too long after that, the killings started. It was carried out by the same group of that strange KR. One of my KK relative told me that one night he heard several KR leaders speak to each other in Vietnamese. He could not hear the detail of their conversation. He suspects that these groups of KR were actually Khmer VM or agents of VC who buried themselve inside the KR government. Eight month into the massacre, two third of the city resettlement families were gone. My sister died from forced labor and starvation. All my remaining KK uncles and aunts’ families were disappeared over night. Soon after that the new group of KR leaders showed up with heavy army and body guards took control of the towns and villages. Many people witnessed the arrest or even execution of the former suspected Vietnamese KR by the new arrival KR. Some villagers said to have seen them burned things at their compound then escaped into the woods a night before the new KR arrived. The new Khmer Rouge groups tried to talk about reconciliation among all Khmers and even recruited many left over city young men into their military unit. They talked about war with Vietnam at the border. Now if it is in fact that those KR who actually killed people in my town were really a Vietnamese agent, I think it is possible that the Vietnamese has a lot to do with the over all one million deaths of Cambodian else where throughout the country. After all we all know how deep the Vietnamese's hypocrisy has always been toward the Khmer people. How can Khmers forget all about!!! Its very so painful and miserable of longlife...
KhmerRevolution,
RockHeart.
:genius:
Yeah right. Ho Chi Minh committed suicide because he didn't want to face Sihanok even though Sihanok had already lost power to Lon Nol, and Vietnam is more powerful than Cambodia, and yet Ho Chi Minh is afraid of Sihanok who didn't even rule Cambodia during that time.
And yes the Khmer Rouge were really Vietnamese in disguise.
Yeah suuuure and what's next? The U.N and America aren't telling Vietnam to give South Vietnam to Cambodia and America is lifting trade embargos against Vietnam, because Vietnam has captured an alien mind control ray and is secretly controlling the American government right?
Who was genocided the khmers....... a very confusing topic
The genocide has already been established by historians to have been caused by the Khmer Rouge.
You talking about us making a claimed yet you yourself are making claimed. When you talk about lies? This is not the domino affect my friend...
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