northwestern_student
Oct 31 2005, 11:39 PM
is it kind of the like the Shanghai/Beijing dichotomy, Saigon being the commercial center of Vietnam, and Hanoi the intellectual and political center?
btw, do most viet go by Ho Chi Minh City or Saigon? I think Saigon is a sexier name.
KnightRider
Nov 1 2005, 01:27 AM
QUOTE (northwestern_student @ Oct 31 2005, 09:39 PM)
is it kind of the like the Shanghai/Beijing dichotomy, Saigon being the commercial center of Korea, and Hanoi the intellectual and political center?
btw, do most viet go by Ho Chi Minh City or Saigon? I think Saigon is a sexier name.
Most people still use the term Saigon, since it is shorter in length. Even in Vietnam, they still use Saigon quite frequently, although it's safer to say Ho Chi Minh to police officers and government workers. Technically Saigon refers to district 1.
dolongdao
Nov 1 2005, 02:23 AM
ho chi minh city is the official name but many people (including myself) still refer to it as saigon.
bluelakedragon
Nov 1 2005, 02:53 AM
QUOTE (northwestern_student @ Oct 31 2005, 11:39 PM)
is it kind of the like the Shanghai/Beijing dichotomy, Saigon being the commercial center of Korea, and Hanoi the intellectual and political center?
btw, do most viet go by Ho Chi Minh City or Saigon? I think Saigon is a sexier name.
Saigon is not the commercial center of Korea.
Tav6
Nov 1 2005, 08:39 AM
^^^^ the guy is on crack Saigon is a city in Vietnam not korea

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chosenone22
Nov 1 2005, 08:48 AM
It's called a mistake guys. Calm down.
PhoShizzle
Nov 1 2005, 09:05 AM
QUOTE (northwestern_student @ Nov 1 2005, 12:39 AM)
is it kind of the like the Shanghai/Beijing dichotomy, Saigon being the commercial center of Korea, and Hanoi the intellectual and political center?
btw, do most viet go by Ho Chi Minh City or Saigon? I think
Saigon is a sexier name. 
2 lol how is it sexier?
CoDep
Nov 1 2005, 12:48 PM
Depending in the context, Saigon can be referred to the 1st district, or the whole
city, the biggest and richest city in Vietnam .
Like New York and Washington DC, or ShangHai and BeiJing, Saigon is Economic
center, and Hanoi is Politics, Arts and Literatures one.
toki
Nov 1 2005, 01:26 PM
woah. where did korea come into this?

anyways i am sure northwestern obviously knows that saigon is in vietnam and not korea. maybe he was talkin about korea's economic influence?

most of the people i knew who refer to it or was born there refer to it as saigon
northwestern_student
Nov 1 2005, 02:03 PM
geez, guys, it was a typo.
damn
supernovasp
Nov 1 2005, 03:37 PM
The accent, the ethnic make up, and a lot of things
Nguyen
Nov 1 2005, 06:40 PM
i just got back from Vietnam 2 wêeks ago. I was ther for 2 months and maybe heard TP HCM from TV and foreigners( French, Aussies, etc) I can't remember ANYONE calling it anything else but Saigon. All the locals , even bachys called it Saigon.
~YummyCupcake~
Nov 1 2005, 08:49 PM
Ho Chi Minh City is a more formal name but a lot of Vietnamese people always say Saigon more. In my opinion, I think Ho Chi Minh City sounds much more sophisticated.
vietxboy
Nov 1 2005, 10:41 PM
QUOTE (~YummyCupcake~ @ Nov 1 2005, 08:49 PM)
Ho Chi Minh City is a more formal name but a lot of Vietnamese people always say Saigon more. In my opinion, I think Ho Chi Minh City sounds much more sophisticated.
it aint sophisticated when non-viet foreigners (white ppl) say it... they say it so weird and bad, it just ruins the name.
on the other hand, when foreigners say "Saigon", its better and more fluent
i was in VN recently, yea most ppl there call it "Saigon" or "Thanh Pho"
and "Saigon" is the official term for district 1 in TPHCM
worker_bee
Nov 1 2005, 10:51 PM
QUOTE (vietxboy @ Nov 1 2005, 08:41 PM)
it aint sophisticated when non-viet foreigners (white ppl) say it... they say it so weird and bad, it just ruins the name.
on the other hand, when foreigners say "Saigon", its better and more fluent
i was in VN recently, yea most ppl there call it "Saigon" or "Thanh Pho"
and "Saigon" is the official term for district 1 in TPHCM
Who the fu-k cares how foreigners pronounce it. You should fu-king stop looking up to foreigner too much, man! Also, the dumbasses who refer to Sai Gon as "thanh pho" are the same dumbasses who live in the deep South and never travel anywhere. fu-k those dumbasses!
vietxboy
Nov 1 2005, 11:29 PM
QUOTE (worker_bee @ Nov 1 2005, 10:51 PM)
QUOTE (vietxboy @ Nov 1 2005, 08:41 PM)
it aint sophisticated when non-viet foreigners (white ppl) say it... they say it so weird and bad, it just ruins the name.
on the other hand, when foreigners say "Saigon", its better and more fluent
i was in VN recently, yea most ppl there call it "Saigon" or "Thanh Pho"
and "Saigon" is the official term for district 1 in TPHCM
Who the fu-k cares how foreigners pronounce it. You should fu-king stop looking up to foreigner too much, man! Also, the dumbasses who refer to Sai Gon as "thanh pho" are the same dumbasses who live in the deep South and never travel anywhere. fu-k those dumbasses!
u got issues...
i dont care what foreigners think, i was jus judging on how they say it since the other member said it was sophisticated...
so what if ppl call "Saigon" thanh pho, thanh pho means big city j@ckass
who said i look up to foreigners... stop pulling words from your @ss...
northwestern_student
Nov 2 2005, 12:09 AM
how do the girls of two cities compare
Kenji shinoda
Nov 2 2005, 12:25 AM
QUOTE (northwestern_student @ Nov 2 2005, 12:09 AM)
how do the girls of two cities compare
Hanoi girls have lighter skin than Saigon girls. They are also slighty taller (about 2-3 cm) than girls from the south ( except for those who has Chinese in their blood, lol

2 ). Saigon girls are more South east asian -looking than Hanoi girls.
Happy Asian
Nov 2 2005, 06:15 AM
Hanoi aka Thang Long is located in northern Vietnam, the cradle of Vietnamese culture and civilisation, and has been the proud Capital of Vietnam for 995 years. Apart from political, Thang Long/Hanoi also served as a military center during the various wars with China, France and the US motherfu-kers who bombed my beloved country.
Saigon or (Prey Neakor in Khmer) is located in southern Vietnam. It was once a capital of those dogs who permitted the white men to kill Vietnamese, and it cost our nation 5 million lives which include 1.1 milliom soldiers from the North to liberate (or conquer)it. My family come from there, but I hate it.
PhoShizzle
Nov 2 2005, 06:17 AM
lol why are u even bringin up the name prey neakor? they wish saigon/ho chi minh would be called that
Happy Asian
Nov 2 2005, 06:21 AM
They can wish but WTF are they goin' to do? NOTHING!!
Kenji shinoda
Nov 2 2005, 06:25 AM
QUOTE (Happy Asian @ Nov 2 2005, 06:15 AM)
Hanoi aka Thang Long is located in northern Vietnam, the cradle of Vietnamese culture and civilisation, and has been the proud Capital of Vietnam for 995 years. Apart from political, Thang Long/Hanoi also served as a military center during the various wars with China, France and the US motherfu-kers who bombed my beloved country.
Saigon or (Prey Neakor in Khmer) is located in southern Vietnam. It was once a capital of those dogs who permitted the white men to kill Vietnamese, and it cost our nation 5 million lives which include 1.1 milliom soldiers from the North to liberate (or conquer)it.
My family come from there, but I hate it.
Hanoi always welcome you, my fellow country man.
PhoShizzle
Nov 2 2005, 06:25 AM
lol i wonder if they could ever get their so called city back, so sad
Happy Asian
Nov 2 2005, 06:35 AM
QUOTE (PhoShizzle @ Nov 2 2005, 09:25 PM)
lol i wonder if they could ever get their so called city back, so sad
The only way for that to happen is to have the Cambodian army invading Vietnam, but that is pretty unlikely since Vietnam win over them 99.9% of the time.
KnightRider
Nov 2 2005, 02:15 PM
QUOTE (Kenji shinoda @ Nov 1 2005, 10:25 PM)
QUOTE (northwestern_student @ Nov 2 2005, 12:09 AM)
how do the girls of two cities compare
Hanoi girls have lighter skin than Saigon girls. They are also slighty taller (about 2-3 cm) than girls from the south ( except for those who has Chinese in their blood, lol

2 ). Saigon girls are more South east asian -looking than Hanoi girls.
My parent's are from the north and they both have light skin, but they are both short and so am I. I'm 5'7
chosenone22
Nov 2 2005, 02:26 PM
QUOTE (worker_bee @ Nov 1 2005, 10:51 PM)
QUOTE (vietxboy @ Nov 1 2005, 08:41 PM)
it aint sophisticated when non-viet foreigners (white ppl) say it... they say it so weird and bad, it just ruins the name.
on the other hand, when foreigners say "Saigon", its better and more fluent
i was in VN recently, yea most ppl there call it "Saigon" or "Thanh Pho"
and "Saigon" is the official term for district 1 in TPHCM
Who the fu-k cares how foreigners pronounce it. You should fu-king stop looking up to foreigner too much, man! Also, the dumbasses who refer to Sai Gon as "thanh pho" are the same dumbasses who live in the deep South and never travel anywhere. fu-k those dumbasses!
AHAHAHAH I love worker bee thoughts and comments.
bluelakedragon
Nov 2 2005, 04:20 PM
QUOTE (worker_bee @ Nov 1 2005, 10:51 PM)
QUOTE (vietxboy @ Nov 1 2005, 08:41 PM)
it aint sophisticated when non-viet foreigners (white ppl) say it... they say it so weird and bad, it just ruins the name.
on the other hand, when foreigners say "Saigon", its better and more fluent
i was in VN recently, yea most ppl there call it "Saigon" or "Thanh Pho"
and "Saigon" is the official term for district 1 in TPHCM
Who the fu-k cares how foreigners pronounce it. You should fu-king stop looking up to foreigner too much, man! Also, the dumbasses who refer to Sai Gon as "thanh pho" are the same dumbasses who live in the deep South and never travel anywhere. fu-k those dumbasses!
somehow I have the feeling you're trying to divide Vietnamese between North and South again. I thought we are unified and one country. is this how you VCs developing Vietnam. Vietnam is very proud of you VCs.
Keeping the propagandas and divisive message going VCs. You have your comrades VCs Happy Asian and Kenji shinoda backing you up.
edit: when you talk, do you really refer it as Thanh Pho Ho Chi Minh? is that too many words for a name of a City? that's why not many people like the name. most big cities are referred to as "city" in other countries too....
southernstar
Nov 2 2005, 04:42 PM
Sai Gon muon nam.
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