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quocthaibinhan

Oct 24 2005, 06:22 PM

QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha (Oct 15 2005 @ 05:23 PM))

I've just read this article in a Vietnamese newspaper about how sons and grandchildren of the Nguyen dynasty's Emperor Thanh Thai are living in poverty in Can Tho and has to hire motorbikes to work as Honda Om drivers. The interviewee was the third son of Emperor Thanh Thai and younger brother to Emperor Duy Tan.

It's worth noting that the patriot Emperor, his wife and two children were exiled by the French in 1907 to their African colony of Reunion islands and remained there for 40 years. They were repatriated to Vietnam in 1947 and kept under house arrest at Cape Saint Jacque (Vung Tau) until Emperor Thanh Thai's death in 1954. His first son, Emperor Duy Tan was exiled in 1916 and died in 1945 in a plane crash.

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worker_bee

Oct 24 2005, 06:32 PM

One of his sons lives in Texas, USA and another one still lives in Vietnam, somewhere in the southern zone. The rest have been dead for a long time. If the story were true, it wouldn't be surprising.

quocthaibinhan

Oct 24 2005, 08:21 PM

I would have thought that they are wealthy enough to take care of their important extended family. May be those are not the important ones.

But it does not give much credits to the Nguyen dynasty if they want to unite Viets when they can not take care of their own. It is a sad thing that many are in poverty and it includes the last dynasty members.

Does China also have this.

worker_bee

Oct 24 2005, 09:00 PM

When Thanh Thai was sent into exile, he pretty much had nothing. When he died, he left that nothingness to his children.

quocthaibinhan

Oct 24 2005, 09:30 PM

There are plenty of Nguyen Dynasty that are well off, surely. May be he does not support 3 red lashes or Catho or VCs.

worker_bee

Oct 25 2005, 11:29 AM

Bao Dai's progeny are probably rich, but not Thanh Thai's.

Are you one of Thanh Thai's descendants? It's the only conclusion I can come up with. You hate the VC, Catholics, South VN loyalists. Your screen name suggests some sort of royal lineage. I think Preydominator is also a member in that club, and probably Nam_quoc_son_ha.

dolongdao

Oct 25 2005, 12:56 PM

how does "quoc thai binh an" denote royalty?
quoc - country
thai - highest/utmost
binh an- peace

quocthaibinhan

Oct 25 2005, 02:04 PM

They say trace your family back far enough and we will be all cave men and women.

I am wondering why some firms/shops don't take the advantage of him being noble line. Obviously, being noble line does not help in Viet Nam, but in any countries it would be a different story.

Don't forget "binh an" means peace but also there is an element of security, thus peace and security. It can't really be ultimate peace without security.

Come to think about it, just like Vietnam peace without security.

nguoivietchanhtong

Oct 26 2005, 04:40 PM

QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Oct 25 2005, 02:04 PM)

I don't support any of this non sense. Only Quang Trung King, Nguyen Hue should be honored. Nguyen Anh, Gia Long King, killed and destroyed Quang Trung followers and did not make much contribution to the Vietnamese as his descendent on the throne just made Vietnamese suffer and go down because of their rules. So who cares about Buu Chanh or Duy Tan. They were useless to the Vietnamese as it showed Vietnamese under colonial rules.

Heavenandearth

Oct 26 2005, 05:34 PM

Can someone tell me more about these lines. It seems there are too many Nguyens. Which is which and how many are there altogether.

worker_bee

Oct 27 2005, 09:23 AM

QUOTE (nguoivietchanhtong @ Oct 26 2005, 02:40 PM)

So who cares about Buu Chanh or Duy Tan. They were useless to the Vietnamese as it showed Vietnamese under colonial rules.

Do you know who Duy Tân was, you fu-king moron?

Heavenandearth

Oct 27 2005, 01:28 PM

Too many Nguyens and it can be confusing..

worker_bee

Oct 27 2005, 01:49 PM

I miss JimTungLe

. He's the one who can answer the questions in this topic.

Heavenandearth

Oct 27 2005, 02:13 PM

It seems that there are two types of Nguyens, from what I have read here.

XuongTran

Nov 16 2005, 12:22 PM

QUOTE (worker_bee @ Oct 27 2005, 08:23 AM)

QUOTE (nguoivietchanhtong @ Oct 26 2005, 02:40 PM)

So who cares about Buu Chanh or Duy Tan. They were useless to the Vietnamese as it showed Vietnamese under colonial rules.

Do you know who Duy Tân was, you fu-king moron?

Thank you, workerbee. If you know anything about the Nguyen Dynasty, you would know that the emperors were loved and honored by the people of Viet-Nam. They died struggling to bring not only prominence but honor back to Viet-Nam while defying French Colonial Viet-Nam.

I can confirm that one of Thanh Thai's sons (brother to Duy Tan) lives in Houston, TX, USA. He is my grandfather; his name is Nguyen-Phuoc Vinh Gieu. There are a number of family members left on Reunion as well.

Know this, the Nguyen Dynasty lives on with honor and grace, with or without the crown, in or out of Viet-Nam.

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