Greetings my neighbors,

I come in peace. I am looking for a good relationship between our two cultures, either in ancient times, or present days. This shall be the topic to discuss the bond between our two cultures and how our generation and the future generations can improve upon those mistakes that were made in the past.

I created this topic out of my Khmer culture and Viet culture out of ceriousity. Thank you for your inputs.

You neighbor from next door,


Dai Viet

Hey Dai viet,

Do you want to contribute some dirtiest tricks to our Khmer people?
Do you think that you propaganda is motivate...?

You should remember!!! RockHeart is still alive! Our KhmerPride are never forgetten about who were murderous our people in the past...

KhmerRevolution,

RockHeart.

:genius:

I'm not familiar with the "GOOD" part of our nations history, maybe if you know any, let us know. I'm sure there are "Good" times between our two nations as well as bad. The only way to improve our nation's relationship with each other is first, getting rid of the Pro-vietnamese government that currently rules over Cambodia. Just my opinion.

Menikani,

You're right! I am believe that you so well understanding about this circumstance issue in our Khmer beloved country. We've to rid of the pro-vietnamese government that currently rules over Cambodia. Then, we've to rid of them all...

I am very possitive with your opinion!!! How about another Khmers's opinions!!!

KhmerRevolution,

RockHeart,
:genius:

Vietnam and Cambodia already have a good relationship with each other, since Hun Sen is pro Vietnamese. Who cares if the Khmer people hate Vietnamese, they have no power in the Cambodian government.

Dai Viet you shouldn't reason with people who hate you no matter what you do for them like saving them from genocide and stuff.

You'd regret saying that. Once the Khmer people regains back their government, you are gonna want to care, or be forced to care what the Khmer people think of the Vietnamese government and their loyalist. Mark my word.



Believe whatever you want.

lol like Cambodians will be able to overthrow Hun Sen and his and troops. And even if they did, they still pose no threat to Vietnam, since Vietnam has a much more superior military and a much more greater experience at fighting with all the wars they have won.

Bryon, you are a hypocrite.

You hold a grudge against Chinese for conquering your people for over a thousand years, even though this happened a LONG time ago and any Chinese who was responsible for conquering Vietnam have been dead for MANY MANY years.

And now you're supporting Vietnam controlling Cambodia with the "pro-Vietnam" Hun Sen government.

Being Vietnamese, you should know better than anyone that the Khmers do not wish to be controlled by Vietnamese. They deserve their freedom and independence from Vietnam as much as Vietnamese deserved it from Chinese, French, and American.

Ok I'm tired of you always putting words in my mouth. When did I ever say I didn't like Chinese people because they occupied Vietnam for 1000 years? Maybe other Vietnamese have but I don't.

And as for Vietnam controlling the Cambodian government do you have proof that they are? Most of the world only knows right now is that Vietnam officially left Cambodia in 1989 after saving them from Pol Pot.

WTF? I didn't mean to have any hard feelings when I posted this topic. But if you guys keep thinking about Vietnamese that way, then be it. I don't give a crap. $hit, I was trying to get some good relationship between the two cultures, but hey... never mind then. If that's what you want, then that's what you'll get.

Did you guys even read what I wrote, or is it that you guys were too busy thinking Vietnamese are traitors and liars? I said:

"I am looking for a good relationship between our two cultures, either in ancient times, or present days. This shall be the topic to discuss the bond between our two cultures and how our generation and the future generations can improve upon those mistakes that were made in the past."

Does that sound hostile to you people?

I now see most Cambodians as peaceful friends.

I am just trying to show them that not all Vietnamese are the same. If they keep thinking that way about our culture and the people of Vietnam. Then I will have to reverse this topic.

I hope now ACVSes understand how Chinese feel.

I didn't view your topic as hostile. I only replied to Byron the way I did for his comments. You can read what I said whichever way you want but it wasn't a Vietnamese Bash.

That is all in the past. The Khmer Rouge era is over. Let there be peace.

What's ACVSes?

No clue what it means.

I know how you feel Byron, but at least I am trying to convince some of them in here for not thinking that Vietnamese are tolerable people and they respect Cambodia for what it is.

Don't worry Byron, hopefully this topic will change some of them.

So true so true... that's why there are still plenty of ACVS on AF.



It's ironic how Khmers believe Vietnamese people "look down" on Khmers while Vietnamese critize them for that. At the same time, Vietnamese people believe the exact same thing about Chinese people. Heh...

Yep peace.

Thanks for being honest Byron.

Kulong, no Vietnamese hold the grudge against Chinese for conquering Vietnam 2000 years ago. I can guarantee you that. You are thinking that Vietnamese don't WANT to be influenced by China, not holding the grudge against Chinese. That should clearify ya ceriousity.

Even after all the offensive, hateful, and racist comments posted by ACVSes on AF, I can still say with confidence that I do NOT look down on Vietnamese people.

But I'm sure you'd understand how difficult it is not to, judging by your own comments.

Also, how can you expect others not to look down on you when you look down on others?



WHY Vietnamese is holding a grudge against Chinese does not matter. What matters is that they do.

There are some Cambodians I respect like say Dith Pran who was a surviver of the killing fields and his story was told in the movie the "killing fields" and he even admitted Vietnam liberated Cambodia and won the award for peace or something from the U.N. At least he actually admits Vietnamese peolple are humans and doesn't hate them.

But the Cambodians that hate me for my nationality and want to kill my entire race I look down on them (Meaning I only look down on the racists and not the non-racists). I'm sure most Khmers are non-racist.

Byron, I don't know what to tell ya, but... not all Cambodians are the same. Not all Vietnamese are the same, and not all Chinese are the same.

The only reason why some Vietnamese have grudges against China is because of that Ai Nam Quan gate.

Also Vietnam and China were buddies during the cold war until China became more Pro-U.S and betrayed Vietnam during the Vietnam war and even before the war ended, China became more anti-Vietnam to appease the U.S so China can do more trade with the U.S which made Vietnam go to the Soviet's side.

So China betrayed the asian brotherhood with Vietnam for the U.S.

They don't. Give me one good reason why they should hold the grudge against Chinese for conquering Vietnam 1000 years. Don't tell me it's because Chinese conquered Vietnam for 1000 years. Because they don't think that way, wars have their advantages, in this case, land.

Yes, tell all the ACVSes that. Cam on.

We all know Chinese look down on Vietnamese, why do you think there was the 1979 war? It wasn't fought for land,money or other natural resources. It was fought because the Chinese wanted to "teach Vietnam" a lesson. lol why would anyone launch a war with high casualities on both sides just for the purpose to teach Vietnam a lesson. We all know that China wanted to show Vietnam that they were superior which is why they launched the war and of course we all know what happened afterwards.

Even Deng Xiaoping called Vietnamese "dogs".

You are generalizing Cambodians after what you read about a couple incidents. Not all Cambodians hate Vietnamese people and want to commit genocide on your people. Maybe some hate the Vietnamese government but not the Vietnamese people. Dith Pran's definition of liberation is dull.

That is true. But that's how diplomacy works in everyday life. I would have done the same thing to the Chinese if I had to. You just have to take care of your own people and country, then the other countries. Domestic always comes first.

But it's history Byron, I really don't care about the Cold-War anymore. Although, I really care about Ai Nam Quan gate, that is the most precious land to our people and country.

If Chinese really looked down on Vietnamese then why would there be Chinese like me who are even interested in the Vietnamese language and culture? Why would Chinese allow Vietnamese open businesses next to theirs in Chinatowns across the U.S.? Why would Chinese men even want to marry Vietnamese women when they could also marry other Southeast Asian women? Why would the PRC government even care about Vietnam to build a better relationship with them?

You are just like the Khmers that you look down on, hypocrite.

BTW, you keep saying that Deng Xiaoping called Vietnamese "dogs", do you have an actual quote on that? Because I can simply just say "Oh, duh... huh huh Ho Chi Minh called Chinese "dogs".



Get over it. The Vietnamese government signed a treaty with the Chinese government.

You don't hear me b!tch and moan about the land that we lost to Russia, Mongolia, and India.



China should look out for itself, just like any soverign nation does. China has no obligation over Vietnam, nor does any nation have any responsibility over another.

If U.S. can benefit China more than Vietnam then too bad.



Drama queen

Chinese called Vietnamese dogs, Vietnamese called Chinese dogs. Fare. After all, humans are animals, but they have a better advantage than animals, that is the gift from God, our brains.

I'm still waiting for Bryon to find the quote of Deng Xiaoping calling Vietnamese "dogs".

Why is every topic turned into an arguement between Viets and Han?

Ahmmmm... this is the topic about Cambodians and Vietnamese. Not Vietnamese and Cambodians. Please return to the topic.

Typo?

Ooops...

This is the topic about Cambodians and Vietnamese. Not Vietnamese and Chinese.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Funny how China didn't gain it's huge economic surge after it went to war with Vietnam, because the U.S put a trade restrictions on China for becoming commuist and their involvement in the Korean war which made the war a tie, even though the U.S was winning before China's interference. but China used the Vietnam war to became anti Vietnamese so they can trade with the U.S again.

Even China shared it's plan to attack Vietnam in the 1979 war with the U.S before the war, and the U.S agreed so it was obviously a consipiracy between the U.S and China to get Vietnam, and China wanted to please the U.S to open up trade with them and attacked Vietnam to show the U.S that they were anti Vietnamese so they can get trade.

Oh and Deng Xiaoping said this about Vietnam: "Every dog has its day"(referring to Vietnam beating the U.S and France.)

You are obviously stubborn and are as anti-China as much as the Khmers are anti-Vietnam. I could care less what you think My point was that it's ironic that an ACVS is pissed off at an anti-Vietnam Khmer hahaha



Am I supposed to just take your word for it? "Every dog has its day" doesn't even sound like a Chinese saying.

Viets don't overcontempt to our Khmers! We, Khmers already know that you're Viets have a BIG POWER to disturb the neighbors as KhmerKroms, Cambodia, Chams, and very much more...

How do you (viets) feel? if has another nation to conflict your politic object, or stress, persecute your own people, and take your land over...As the same our Khmers are very suffer, and so miserable while you (Viets) damaged our temples, destroyed our Culture, Tradition, properties and very much more...We, Khmers just want to tolerate huge pain that caused from you (Viets)...It would be nice! Please return back to wherever you came from...Lets our people will have a little hope in the future...Don't try to bogus to kill our Khmers again, and again...We, Khmers don't want to see the Human been's bloods drop down to the earth...

KhmerRevolution,

RockHeart.
:genius:

How do you (viets) feel? if has another nation to conflict your politic object, or stress, persecute your own people, and take your land over...As the same our Khmers are very suffer, and so miserable while you (Viets) damaged our temples, destroyed our Culture, Tradition, properties and very much more..
-Rockheart

Of course we know what it feels. Look at what America did when they killed more than a million Vietnamese and and bombed the hell out of Vietnam and even sprayed agent orange destroying 1/3 of Vietnam's jungles and crops. South Korea even committed atrocities as well in the Vietnam war.

But look what happened after Vietnamese forgave the Americans and South Koreans. Now relations with those countires are really increasing and Vietnam has a huge economic surge now.

It pays to not HATE people which is why Vietnam is benifiting and Cambodia is not because of their hatred and racist attacks.

Oh and it was Cambodians who started the war, where they attacked Vietnam and killed Vietnamese peasants in Vietnam which is why Vietnam conquered Cambodia in 15 days. Vietnam has a right to defend itself.

Yet you are an ACVS... hypocrite

and what makes you think I'm anti-chinese? But then again to you, talking about the 1979 war and it's facts is somehow anti Chinese to you right?

Do you even read your own posts?

You're not exactly friendly like other Vietnamese members on AF such as DAI_VIET and drunk_on_tea, to say the least...

Yeah I sometimes critize China but I don't hate Chinese people. There's a difference between critizing and hating. I do have Chinese friends you know. I would be a hypocrite to have Chinese friends and yet hate Chinese people.

Hahaha... "You have Chinese friends"? Does that somehow excuse you from being an ACVS?

You do more than just criticize China, Bryon. You have a stubborn mindset where China = evil. When have you ever posted something about China that isn't negative? It's no wonder you appear to be a ACVS even though you deny it.

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You think Chinese look down on Vietnamese, then how do you explain the Chinese who befriended you? Or why would you even want to be friends with someone who look down on you.

Hypocrite.

lol yeah find me one quote where I said China was evil. AGAIN your confusing me for other Vietnamese forumers here who hate China's communist regime. For the last time find me quotes on when I said China was evil. If you can't then don't accuse me of things I've never said.

Speaking of quotes, I'm still waiting on your quote of Deng Xiaoping from a reliable source, and no, pulling stuff out of your @$$ isn't considered reliable.

You still haven't explained your attitude toward Chinese. You clearly said that you believe Chinese look down on Vietnamese, yet at the same time you claim to have Chinese friends.

So either a.) you are lying and you don't believe Chinese look down on Vietnamese or b.) you are lying and you don't have any Chinese friends. Either way, you are a liar.

Hey I read in the Chinese forum that Chinese in Hong Kong look down on Vietnamese there. Oh and you honestly think when I say "Chinese" I mean the every single Chinese?

HAHAHA

What else would one think?

If I say "Vietnamese are unfriendly", wouldn't you assume I'm talking about ALL Vietnamese?