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oni-mx
Japan used to be like Taiwan, only they flee China in ancient times. But their roots are from China, language, tradition, philosophy, skin color, etc.

If China got HK to return, then TW to re-unite, maybe JP should be the next logical aquisition.
Who's in China's way? America.....
herosword
Well, the Japanese might be in China's way. They're a great power and a determined people so they will not be taken easily. Japanese consider themselves distinct from Chinese just like Vietnamese and Koreans do. Just because we have a common root does not mean we want to go back to that root. It is scientifically believed today that the modern man comes originated from Africa. Just because my great-great... ancestors comes from Africa does not mean I have much affinity for the continent.
tongbao_vince
QUOTE
Japan used to be like Taiwan, only they flee China in ancient times. But their roots are from China, language, tradition, philosophy, skin color, etc.

If China got HK to return, then TW to re-unite, maybe JP should be the next logical aquisition.
Who's in China's way? America.....


Japan was never like Taiwan. They were always a seperate country and unity never ruled under a Chinese dynasty. Japan sent scholars to China's Tang dynasty to learn government, politics, culture, religion and infastructure from China. But they were not Chinese who brought those things to Japan.

Well after Hong Kong.. possibily Taiwan.. the next logical aqusition would be Mongolia since it has been part of China int he past until the Soviets forced China to recognize its independence so they could use it as a satellite state.

I've always been interested in an East Asian cooperation like the EU or NATO. Too bad there are too many differences and historical hurdles between China, Japan, Corea and Taiwan.
oni-mx
QUOTE (herosword @ Mar 3 2004, 01:03 AM)
Well, the Japanese might be in China's way. They're a great power and a determined people so they will not be taken easily. Japanese consider themselves distinct from Chinese just like Vietnamese and Koreans do. Just because we have a common root does not mean we want to go back to that root. It is scientifically believed today that the modern man comes originated from Africa. Just because my great-great... ancestors comes from Africa does not mean I have much affinity for the continent.

They are strong economically, but weak militaryly. Besides, what wrong with going back to your own motherland? True we're homo sapienz, but evolution has changed us. We have different skin, body type, etc. Japanese and chinese are close enough in terms of physical appearance. So why not do what europe did? Make an Asian Union? A pact for defense against the great white threat.

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Doan Du
QUOTE (oni-mx @ Mar 3 2004, 01:11 AM)
QUOTE (herosword @ Mar 3 2004, 01:03 AM)
Well, the Japanese might be in China's way. They're a great power and a determined people so they will not be taken easily.  Japanese consider themselves distinct from Chinese just like Vietnamese and Koreans do.  Just because we have a common root does not mean we want to go back to that root.  It is scientifically believed today that the modern man comes originated from Africa.  Just because my great-great... ancestors comes from Africa does not mean I have much affinity for the continent.

They are strong economically, but weak militaryly. Besides, what wrong with going back to your own motherland? True we're homo sapienz, but evolution has changed us. We have different skin, body type, etc. Japanese and chinese are close enough in terms of physical appearance. So why not do what europe did? Make an Asian Union? A pact for defense against the great white threat.

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Japan is not weak militarily. It would take very little for Japan to be a world military power. Ordnances are easy to manufacture. It's the brain behind them that matters and Japan got plenty of it.
herosword
The great white threat? America is a melting pot of different cultures. If you make a pack of defense against countries like the US, you not fighting just "white people."
I guess an alliance would depend on whether Japan and Korea sees that it has more interest with the US or China. Right now, it seems that the US is more protective of Japan and South Korea's interest than China, which often threaten its interest. Maybe when China is a democracy and share common values and principles with these other developed nations, an alliance might be possible. But by then, why would a military alliance be necessary among just Asian countries? If China were a democracy so many problems would be solved that by then China could enter into strong alliance with the US as an equal and maybe even join NATO. Guess, I'm dreaming, but if China becomes a democracy so many roles open up for it.
tongbao_vince
Japan is still one of the top 10 strongest militaries in the world, despite the fact it can only retain a defence orientated military. However, their modern day troops have never had any combat experience besides very few isolated cases with North Korea.
IORI
QUOTE (herosword @ Mar 3 2004, 01:24 AM)
The great white threat? America is a melting pot of different cultures. If you make a pack of defense against countries like the US, you not fighting just "white people."
I guess an alliance would depend on whether Japan and Korea sees that it has more interest with the US or China. Right now, it seems that the US is more protective of Japan and South Korea's interest than China, which often threaten its interest. Maybe when China is a democracy and share common values and principles with these other developed nations, an alliance might be possible. But by then, why would a military alliance be necessary among just Asian countries? If China were a democracy so many problems would be solved that by then China could enter into strong alliance with the US as an equal and maybe even join NATO. Guess, I'm dreaming, but if China becomes a democracy so many roles open up for it.

U mean become a US pawn i don't think so.

Just because russia democratized doesn't mean it's necessarily US friendly they have there own opinions and the world doesn't need to be told by the Americans what to do.It all comes down to the NWO conspiracy theory.

Reforms and all are coming but not at the expense of becoming Americas b!tch like britain.
DJ_SWANN
QUOTE (IORI @ Mar 3 2004, 05:45 AM)
QUOTE (herosword @ Mar 3 2004, 01:24 AM)
The great white threat?  America is a melting pot of different cultures.  If you make a pack of defense against countries like the US, you not fighting just "white people."
I guess an alliance would depend on whether Japan and Korea sees that it has more interest with the US or China.  Right now, it seems that the US is more protective of Japan and South Korea's interest than China, which often threaten its interest.  Maybe when China is a democracy and share common values and principles with these other developed nations, an alliance might be possible.  But by then, why would a military alliance be necessary among just Asian countries?  If China were a democracy so many problems would be solved that by then China could enter into strong alliance with the US as an equal and maybe even join NATO.  Guess, I'm dreaming, but if China becomes a democracy so many roles open up for it.

U mean become a US pawn i don't think so.

Just because russia democratized doesn't mean it's necessarily US friendly they have there own opinions and the world doesn't need to be told by the Americans what to do.It all comes down to the NWO conspiracy theory.

Reforms and all are coming but not at the expense of becoming Americas b!tch like britain.

nah america dont own us all that stuff will change about us being there b!tch its all becuase of that fool tony blair he should quit soon becuase the people dont want him and when hes gone the new prime minister will do sumthing about america and we wont be there b!tch nymore.
Ogumo
A japanese and chinese alliance is something the americans fear the most right now. If japan was to become a part of china or work closely with china who knows what technology/military inventions would be created and then enhanced to far beyond their former level? I believe that we would be on mars and colonizing with in 100 years. Who knows how far we could raise the bar as creator/enhancer? I would be opposed to japan becoming a american state strongly. I really do not know if I would oppose it becoming a chinese state...ultimatly japan and china would mutually benefit...but alas there are too many things that would have to be worked out. Not to mention the mutual distrust we have for each other and that is probably one of the easier things to settle.
Kulong
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Mar 3 2004, 06:28 AM)
A japanese and chinese alliance is something the americans fear the most right now. If japan was to become a part of china or work closely with china who knows what technology/military inventions would be created and then enhanced to far beyond their former level? I believe that we would be on mars and colonizing with in 100 years. Who knows how far we could raise the bar as creator/enhancer? I would be opposed to japan becoming a american state strongly. I really do not know if I would oppose it becoming a chinese state...ultimatly japan and china would mutually benefit...but alas there are too many things that would have to be worked out. Not to mention the mutual distrust we have for each other and that is probably one of the easier things to settle.

I agree with you, for the most part.

I would also hate to see Japan become an American state. I would also hate to see Japan become a Chinese state. Why? Simply because China and Japan would probably make more progress and advancements as two separate nations rather than one. I am all for China and Japan forming an alliance or just a cooperation.
RockHeart
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Mar 3 2004, 07:28 AM)
A japanese and chinese alliance is something the americans fear the most right now. If japan was to become a part of china or work closely with china who knows what technology/military inventions would be created and then enhanced to far beyond their former level? I believe that we would be on mars and colonizing with in 100 years. Who knows how far we could raise the bar as creator/enhancer? I would be opposed to japan becoming a american state strongly. I really do not know if I would oppose it becoming a chinese state...ultimatly japan and china would mutually benefit...but alas there are too many things that would have to be worked out. Not to mention the mutual distrust we have for each other and that is probably one of the easier things to settle.

The Japan, China also should unite with Cambodia, either...Because, in the our Asia country is not large enough as overseas...If we all keep invade, cheat and rob some properties from our neigbors. Then, in the future we all won't have relationships with each others. Put this way, the Japan is big brother, the China is second brother, The Korean is third brother, and all arest are the young brother. Then, we join doing the business together. How is that!!! icon_smile.gif

We all forget about fight...undiscrimination...invassion....We become reunited...

BachMaSon,

RockHeart.
:genius:
Ogumo
QUOTE (RockHeart @ Mar 3 2004, 11:12 AM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Mar 3 2004, 07:28 AM)
A japanese and chinese alliance is something the americans fear the most right now. If japan was to become a part of china or work closely with china who knows what technology/military inventions would be created and then enhanced to far beyond their former level? I believe that we would be on mars and colonizing with in 100 years. Who knows how far we could raise the bar as creator/enhancer? I would be opposed to japan becoming a american state strongly. I really do not know if I would oppose it becoming a chinese state...ultimatly japan and china would mutually benefit...but alas there are too many things that would have to be worked out. Not to mention the mutual distrust we have for each other and that is probably one of the easier things to settle.

The Japan, China also should unite with Cambodia, either...Because, in the our Asia country is not large enough as overseas...If we all keep invade, cheat and rob some properties from our neigbors. Then, in the future we all won't have relationships with each others. Put this way, the Japan is big brother, the China is second brother, The Korean is third brother, and all arest are the young brother. Then, we join doing the business together. How is that!!! icon_smile.gif

We all forget about fight...undiscrimination...invassion....We become reunited...

BachMaSon,

RockHeart.
:genius:

I think you made a error. By no means should china be "second" brother. Japan should be second brother and then the rest in the order you described. But I do agree.
Kulong
QUOTE (RockHeart @ Mar 3 2004, 10:12 AM)
The Japan, China also should unite with Cambodia, either...Because, in the our Asia country is not large enough as overseas...If we all keep invade, cheat and rob some properties from our neigbors. Then, in the future we all won't have relationships with each others. Put this way, the Japan is big brother, the China is second brother, The Korean is third brother, and all arest are the young brother. Then, we join doing the business together. How is that!!! icon_smile.gif

China and Japan unite with Cambodia? No offense to Cambodians but what can Cambodia offer China and Japan?

Also, what's with the "big brother", "second brother"? That is clearly prejudice and places these nations in order of "superiority" which many won't agree with. Also, please refrain from using family titles to describe nations because there are no emotional ties between nations as there are between family members. Nations work together only because they can benefit from their cooperation. This is so mainly because nations are made up of millions of people and it's difficult for all of them to feel the same way about another nation.
Ogumo
QUOTE (Kulong @ Mar 3 2004, 11:19 AM)
QUOTE (RockHeart @ Mar 3 2004, 10:12 AM)
The Japan, China also should unite with Cambodia, either...Because, in the our Asia country is not large enough as overseas...If we all keep invade, cheat and rob some properties from our neigbors. Then, in the future we all won't have relationships with each others. Put this way, the Japan is big brother, the China is second brother, The Korean is third brother, and all arest are the young brother. Then, we join doing the business together. How is that!!! icon_smile.gif

China and Japan unite with Cambodia? No offense to Cambodians but what can Cambodia offer China and Japan?

Also, what's with the "big brother", "second brother"? That is clearly prejudice and places these nations in order of "superiority" which many won't agree with. Also, please refrain from using family titles to describe nations because there are no emotional ties between nations as there are between family members. Nations work together only because they can benefit from their cooperation. This is so mainly because nations are made up of millions of people and it's difficult for all of them to feel the same way about another nation.

Well kulong I am strapped for time but I will explaine what I think he meant. By saying primary,secondary brother. I think that had to do with size,power and potential of the country not this "superiority" or emotional ties. I could be wrong though if I am he will clearify.

China and Japan unite with Cambodia? No offense to Cambodians but what can Cambodia offer China and Japan?

Well cambodia can always be modernized then become a asset in the end. Like a investment of sorts....
Kulong
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Mar 3 2004, 10:29 AM)
Well cambodia can always be modernized then become a asset in the end. Like a investment of sorts....

But what could result as an investment in Cambodia. For example, does Cambodia posses any special resources or have some kidn of strategic location?
huaren
QUOTE
A japanese and chinese alliance is something the americans fear the most right now. If japan was to become a part of china or work closely with china who knows what technology/military inventions would be created and then enhanced to far beyond their former level? I believe that we would be on mars and colonizing with in 100 years. Who knows how far we could raise the bar as creator/enhancer? I would be opposed to japan becoming a american state strongly. I really do not know if I would oppose it becoming a chinese state...ultimatly japan and china would mutually benefit...but alas there are too many things that would have to be worked out. Not to mention the mutual distrust we have for each other and that is probably one of the easier things to settle.

I also agree with this. Japanese have modern technology. And also, Japanese peoples are inteligent. If really happen, japan and china united. The world power will be in Asian peoples. We may already conquer the Space.
Rad Raz
But then again... think about America uniting with the Europe.

As for China uniting with Japan is only an idea of utopia which it will probably never happen. There will be some kind of revolts or protests, terrorism if one of those countrymen oppose the uniting between china and japan.
Kulong
QUOTE (Rad Raz @ Mar 3 2004, 11:47 AM)
But then again... think about America uniting with the Europe.

As for China uniting with Japan is only an idea of utopia which it will probably never happen. There will be some kind of revolts or protests, terrorism if one of those countrymen oppose the uniting between china and japan.

I believe most of us are aware that a union between China and Japan seems very unlikely in the near future assuming the current trends don't change.

We are not official government representatives of China and Japan who are trying to work out a treaty or pact. We are merely spectulating on just how both China and Japan can benefit from such a hypothetical union.
oni-mx
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Mar 3 2004, 07:28 AM)
A japanese and chinese alliance is something the americans fear the most right now. If japan was to become a part of china or work closely with china who knows what technology/military inventions would be created and then enhanced to far beyond their former level? I believe that we would be on mars and colonizing with in 100 years. Who knows how far we could raise the bar as creator/enhancer? I would be opposed to japan becoming a american state strongly. I really do not know if I would oppose it becoming a chinese state...ultimatly japan and china would mutually benefit...but alas there are too many things that would have to be worked out. Not to mention the mutual distrust we have for each other and that is probably one of the easier things to settle.

Well said. Putting the two countries resources together, asians (chinese and japanese) could be the next supreme race. The two countries should probably remain independent politically, but join forces economically and in other ventures.
huaren
QUOTE
Well said. Putting the two countries resources together, asians (chinese and japanese) could be the next supreme race. The two countries should probably remain independent politically, but join forces economically and in other ventures.

I don't think this will happen too. Since Japanese goverment and also most of the peoples don't like the chinese. Majority japanese look down on Chinese especially they like to mention the WW2.
RockHeart
Why i concerned about the two big brothers as: China and Japan. According the biological process notify that the Cambodian people will be rich in the future...If the country has great experienced Architectures, Engineers, Professors and some another have an expert experiment to search it...Because, Cambodian Land has alots of physical features that will be constructive for the country in the future. But the Cambodian people can't handling to create those stuffs...They must be rely some professors who have a great quality at management of technology...The only i can see in ours Asia country is: Two big brothers only...

BachMaSon,

RockHeart.
:genius:
Ogumo
QUOTE (Kulong @ Mar 3 2004, 11:32 AM)
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Mar 3 2004, 10:29 AM)
Well cambodia can always be modernized then become a asset in the end. Like a investment of sorts....

But what could result as an investment in Cambodia. For example, does Cambodia posses any special resources or have some kidn of strategic location?

Actually I thought about that and I cannot think of anything really. Perhaps some cambodians will prove us wrong.
Kulong
QUOTE (RockHeart @ Mar 3 2004, 02:03 PM)
Why i concerned about the two big brothers as: China and Japan. According the biological process notify that the Cambodian people will be rich in the future...If the country has great experienced Architectures, Engineers, Professors and some another have an expert experiment to search it...Because, Cambodian Land has alots of physical features that will be constructive for the country in the future. But the Cambodian people can't handling to create those stuffs...They must be rely some professors who have a great quality at management of technology...The only i can see in ours Asia country is: Two big brothers only...

For China and Japan to invest in developing Cambodia, there must be some sort of purpose. What would China and Japan possibly gain from investing in Cambodia?
huaren
Hmm...

Cambodia, I have never research Cambodia politic or its country. But I think im going to research more of it now. icon_rolleyes.gif
AtlantisStar
QUOTE (oni-mx @ Mar 3 2004, 12:47 AM)
Japan used to be like Taiwan, only they flee China in ancient times. But their roots are from China, language, tradition, philosophy, skin color, etc.

If China got HK to return, then TW to re-unite, maybe JP should be the next logical aquisition.
Who's in China's way? America.....

If Japan "reunites" with China, China would be considered an Empire. And Empires are threatening to the world as a whole.

I highly support America to be in the way of this conquer. You shouldn't use Reunite, because Japan was always Japan, not much was Chinese because China was never interested in Japan.

HK was part of China, that was to reunite after Britain controlled it during the Age of Imperialism.
Byron
So if Cambodia can't offer China anything then why did China ally with them? Sure they needed a country that hated Vietnam, but China supported the Khmer Rouge even before China and Vietnam became enemies, so there must have been another reason for China to ally with them in the past.
AtlantisStar
QUOTE (Byron @ Mar 3 2004, 09:51 PM)
lol Rockheart how can Cambodia join China or Japan, when Vietnam already owns Cambodia. The government of Cambodia works for Vietnam and Vietnam already has secret soldiers in Cambodia to make sure that the current Cambodian government won't be ousted.

Cambodia and Laos already belong to the Vietnam alliance anyway. Of course with Laos they are already very loyal to Vietnam, while Cambodia needed some "influence" to make sure it is loyal to Vietnam.

Oh and Cambodia is of value to China, since they were a close ally of China and China needed them as an anti-Vietnamese country(which of course ended when Vietnam gave Cambodia a nice regime change.)

Hun this isn't on topic. GET BACK ON TOPIC CHOP CHOP!
Byron
QUOTE (AtlantisStar @ Mar 3 2004, 09:54 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Mar 3 2004, 09:51 PM)
lol Rockheart how can Cambodia join China or Japan, when Vietnam already owns Cambodia.  The government of Cambodia works for Vietnam and Vietnam already has secret soldiers in Cambodia to make sure that the current Cambodian government won't be ousted.

Cambodia and Laos already belong to the Vietnam alliance anyway.  Of course with Laos they are already very loyal to Vietnam, while Cambodia needed some "influence" to make sure it is loyal to Vietnam.

Oh and Cambodia is of value to China, since they were a close ally of China and China needed them as an anti-Vietnamese country(which of course ended when Vietnam gave Cambodia a nice regime change.)

Hun this isn't on topic. GET BACK ON TOPIC CHOP CHOP!

Ok I will go back on topic. Anyway I think Japan should unite with China, since that would obviously make relations with the U.S go down. And Japan has strong trade with the U.S what would happen to Japan's economy if the U.S decided to import goods from other countries instead of Japan if Japan has gone to the side of China? I'm sure Japan's best interest would to work closely with the U.S instead.
Kulong
QUOTE (Bryon)
Cambodia and Laos already belong to the Vietnam alliance anyway. Of course with Laos they are already very loyal to Vietnam, while Cambodia needed some "influence" to make sure it is loyal to Vietnam.


"Vietnam Alliance"? Please... icon_rolleyes.gif Your imperialistic attitude sickens me pukeface.gif

QUOTE (AtlantisStar)
Hun this isn't on topic. GET BACK ON TOPIC CHOP CHOP!


Not only do you lack manner, but you are nobody to tell anyone to do anything.
AtlantisStar
QUOTE (Byron @ Mar 3 2004, 10:05 PM)
QUOTE (AtlantisStar @ Mar 3 2004, 09:54 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Mar 3 2004, 09:51 PM)
lol Rockheart how can Cambodia join China or Japan, when Vietnam already owns Cambodia.  The government of Cambodia works for Vietnam and Vietnam already has secret soldiers in Cambodia to make sure that the current Cambodian government won't be ousted.

Cambodia and Laos already belong to the Vietnam alliance anyway.  Of course with Laos they are already very loyal to Vietnam, while Cambodia needed some "influence" to make sure it is loyal to Vietnam.

Oh and Cambodia is of value to China, since they were a close ally of China and China needed them as an anti-Vietnamese country(which of course ended when Vietnam gave Cambodia a nice regime change.)

Hun this isn't on topic. GET BACK ON TOPIC CHOP CHOP!

Ok I will go back on topic. Anyway I think Japan should unite with China, since that would obviously make relations with the U.S go down. And Japan has strong trade with the U.S what would happen to Japan's economy if the U.S decided to import goods from other countries instead of Japan if Japan has gone to the side of China? I'm sure Japan's best interest would to work closely with the U.S instead.

Much better.

Japan has it's own nationalism and individualism, not similar enough to bond with China.
Byron
I can't really see Japan allying itself with China rather than the U.S. Both the U.S and Japan are democracies. China is communist. They both have different ideologies.

Japan is also doing well being on the side of the U.S. What advantage would Japan gain from allying with China rather than the U.S?
AtlantisStar
QUOTE (Byron @ Mar 3 2004, 10:10 PM)
I can't really see Japan allying itself with China rather than the U.S. Both the U.S and Japan are democracies. China is communist. They both have different ideologies.

Japan is also doing well being on the side of the U.S. What advantage would Japan gain from allying with China rather than the U.S?

An awesome reason why US loves Japan, Sony and the cheap but excellent cars.
Byron
Ok I must admit that I have some bias towards Japan going towards the U.S. Since Japan is the #1 investor in Vietnam and Japan helped give Vietnam a huge economic boost. So if Japan were to go over to China then the investment might stop, since Vietnam and China are kinda well enemies. cry2.gif
AtlantisStar
QUOTE (Byron @ Mar 3 2004, 10:15 PM)
Ok I must admit that I have some bias towards Japan going towards the U.S. Since Japan is the #1 investor in Vietnam and Japan helped give Vietnam a huge economic boost. So if Japan were to go over to China then the investment might stop, since Vietnam and China are kinda well enemies. cry2.gif

True, very true.

I don't think the US wants to conquer any territory, enough land already...

Japan as a whole isn't a very political country, it primarily focuses on economy.
Byron
Yeah Japan should remain it's own independant country that is focus mostly on trading with countries to get the maximum amount of profit. Who cares about taking land when your country has enough money to live comfortably.
Kulong
QUOTE (AtlantisStar @ Mar 3 2004, 09:17 PM)
I don't think the US wants to conquer any territory, enough land already...

Yeah, they've already stolen a large chunk of Native-American land, murdered enough Native-Americans, and dealt enough damage to their culture.
AtlantisStar
QUOTE (Kulong @ Mar 3 2004, 10:26 PM)
QUOTE (AtlantisStar @ Mar 3 2004, 09:17 PM)
I don't think the US wants to conquer any territory, enough land already...

Yeah, they've already stolen a large chunk of Native-American land, murdered enough Native-Americans, and dealt enough damage to their culture.

If you look at it, you shouldn't be talking. Britains have murdered more natives than any other country, India, Austrailia, New Zealand, Colonial America, Egypt.
Kulong
QUOTE (AtlantisStar @ Mar 3 2004, 09:29 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Mar 3 2004, 10:26 PM)
QUOTE (AtlantisStar @ Mar 3 2004, 09:17 PM)
I don't think the US wants to conquer any territory, enough land already...

Yeah, they've already stolen a large chunk of Native-American land, murdered enough Native-Americans, and dealt enough damage to their culture.

If you look at it, you shouldn't be talking. Britains have murdered more natives than any other country, India, Austrailia, New Zealand, Colonial America, Egypt.

Fortunately I'm neither Caucasian-American nor Britian. icon_rolleyes.gif
AtlantisStar
QUOTE (Kulong @ Mar 3 2004, 10:30 PM)
QUOTE (AtlantisStar @ Mar 3 2004, 09:29 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Mar 3 2004, 10:26 PM)
QUOTE (AtlantisStar @ Mar 3 2004, 09:17 PM)
I don't think the US wants to conquer any territory, enough land already...

Yeah, they've already stolen a large chunk of Native-American land, murdered enough Native-Americans, and dealt enough damage to their culture.

If you look at it, you shouldn't be talking. Britains have murdered more natives than any other country, India, Austrailia, New Zealand, Colonial America, Egypt.

Fortunately I'm neither Caucasian-American nor Britian. icon_rolleyes.gif

China should stay China without uniting...

I like differentiation in countries
Kulong
QUOTE (AtlantisStar @ Mar 3 2004, 09:41 PM)
I like differentiation in countries

We would have even more differentiation in countries aruond the world if it weren't for globalization (Americanization). icon_rolleyes.gif
Byron
Uh Kulong don't you live in America?
AtlantisStar
QUOTE (Kulong @ Mar 3 2004, 10:45 PM)
QUOTE (AtlantisStar @ Mar 3 2004, 09:41 PM)
I like differentiation in countries

We would have even more differentiation in countries aruond the world if it weren't for globalization (Americanization). icon_rolleyes.gif

Americanization... that wasn't in the dictionary.

But anyway cultural diffusion in impossible to avoid. Just happens with the tides I guess.
Kulong
QUOTE (Byron @ Mar 3 2004, 09:45 PM)
Uh Kulong don't you live in America?

Yes I do and I am an American citizen. That's why I said I'm glad I'm not "CAUCASIAN-American", the same people who committed genocide on not just Native-American population, but also their culture. And afterwards, they stole their land.

QUOTE (AtlantisStar)
Americanization... that wasn't in the dictionary.

But anyway cultural diffusion in impossible to avoid. Just happens with the tides I guess.


Americanization, please, don't tell me you had to look that up icon_rolleyes.gif

Right, first you claimed you like differences among countries, then you are for globalization. Hypocrite.
Byron
QUOTE (Kulong @ Mar 3 2004, 10:54 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Mar 3 2004, 09:45 PM)
Uh Kulong don't you live in America?

Yes I do and I am an American citizen. That's why I said I'm glad I'm not "CAUCASIAN-American", the same people who committed genocide on not just Native-American population, but also their culture. And afterwards, they stole their land.

QUOTE (AtlantisStar)
Americanization... that wasn't in the dictionary.

But anyway cultural diffusion in impossible to avoid. Just happens with the tides I guess.


Americanization, please, don't tell me you had to look that up icon_rolleyes.gif

Right, first you claimed you like differences among countries, then you are for globalization. Hypocrite.

I'm just wondering if you lived in America since your always seem to make statements that are anti American. It seems weird that America seems to be evil to you yet you continue to live in America rather than China.
Kulong
QUOTE (Byron @ Mar 3 2004, 09:57 PM)
I'm just wondering if you lived in America since your always seem to make statements that are anti American. It seems weird that America seems to be evil to you yet you continue to live in America rather than China.

Just because I live in the U.S. I must like the U.S. government?

HAHAHA

I've already said this once. I'm finishing school. I came here when I was 10, before I fully realized how evil U.S. government is. Back then, all I knew about the U.S. was Mickey Mouse and Disney World from American propaganda.
Byron
Hmmmmm this world has been U.S influenced for quite some time and I don't think it seems all that bad. It seems better than when Europe basically ruled the world.

If America was so bad then why do Chinese immigrants try to escape China on their boats and come to America illegaly which I have read about in the news.

I would prefer to have America influence this world than that of Communist China.
oni-mx
What can Japan gain from joining with China you ask?

Well, don't think for a second that US has Japan's full interest in its heart. The reason US is taking care of Japan it's purely economic. Politically, Japan is a weak ally to US, US's considers Britain, German, it's true political and ideological ally.

When push comes to shove, and US dumps Japan, Japan is all alone. Japan's heavy dependancy on US as it's patrons and protectors could spell doom when times are rough.

And remember, US is the one that dumps 2, yes TWO! atom bombs in Japan. So now the love is so strong that they forgo all the past?

What's wrong with China?
Byron
QUOTE (oni-mx @ Mar 3 2004, 11:12 PM)
What can Japan gain from joining with China you ask?

Well, don't think for a second that US has Japan's full interest in its heart. The reason US is taking care of Japan it's purely economic. Politically, Japan is a weak ally to US, US's considers Britain, German, it's true political and ideological ally.

When push comes to shove, and US dumps Japan, Japan is all alone. Japan's heavy dependancy on US as it's patrons and protectors could spell doom when times are rough.

And remember, US is the one that dumps 2, yes TWO! atom bombs in Japan. So now the love is so strong that they forgo all the past?

What's wrong with China?

Nothing's wrong with China. I'm just saying wouldn't Japan gain more from allying with the U.S rather than China. With the U.S, Japan was able to have the 2nd highest economy in the world. Would allying with China been able to give Japan that status?
chynagongju
QUOTE (Kulong @ Mar 3 2004, 11:00 PM)
Just because I live in the U.S. I must like the U.S. government?

HAHAHA

I was born in the USA and live here. But I make a lot of anti-US comments. It's because I don't like or trust the government. The citizens are fine, the communities are fine, schooling systems, fine, etc. But I don't like the government.
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