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Nha Le
Just wondering if anyone here have a father that was an officer.
vietxboy
hi, can you tell me what HO stands for, please ignore my ignorance
im too lazy to search it up now

and overall, whats the main reimbursement that america have offer Vietnam because of the war if there are any.

sure, americans brought over many viet immigrants during the war, but hey, americans also brought over alot of other races too...

for ex. chinese is #1 asian population in america.

for those of you in america, is there any 'special stuff' vietnamese ppl receive?

im from canada, and my family was sponsored over... no freebies
bluelakedragon
QUOTE (vietxboy @ Sep 24 2005, 07:51 PM)
hi, can you tell me what HO stands for, please ignore my ignorance
im too lazy to search it up now

and overall, whats the main reimbursement that america have offer Vietnam because of the war if there are any.

sure, americans brought over many viet immigrants during the war, but hey, americans also brought over alot of other races too...

for ex. chinese is #1 asian population in america.

for those of you in america, is there any 'special stuff' vietnamese ppl receive?

im from canada, and my family was sponsored over... no freebies
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just another way CSVN get rid of dissidents.....
after they killed many in "education camps" already.




from:
http://www.goshen.edu/honors/meyers

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The Humanitarian Operation (HO) Program began in 1989 with an official agreement between the United States and Vietnam in regard to Vietnam’s political prisoners. After 1975, the newly instated regime sent one million Vietnamese military officials from former South Vietnam to re-education camps, in actuality forced labor locations. In 1983, the United States began negotiations for release of these political prisoners. The Vietnamese government agreed to their release if the United States government allowed them to immigrate to the United States. The in-country processing program started in 1989 and former political prisoners began to arrive in 1991.


Many of the 180,000 HO refugees who came to the United States are survivors of torture and face different adjustment difficulties than the previous groups. The agency, Boat People S.O.S., in Arlington, Virginia, offers mental health screening, recreational programs for child torture survivors, educational information and legal services to the 10,000 people from the HO Program in the DC area.


On average, the education level of HO arrivals is higher than the previous wave because they had to complete high school to become officers in the South Vietnamese military. However, the worsening U.S. economic situation mixed with the process of overcoming the past has made it difficult for HO people to immerse themselves in mainstream society. Many have settled in subsidized housing in Mount Pleasant, Washington, DC, Hyattsville, Maryland and Falls Church, Virginia.
Nha Le
About 40 families in my former area now have very high educated kid. Its a shame to the family if their kid do no go to college. Since the parent can only dream through thier kid. The parents are often in thier 40 and no longer want to learn a new language. They work 8 hours a day near minumun wages. But after 15 years later I am so glad that most of the son and daughter of these families are doctors, lawyers, and engineers.
bluelakedragon
QUOTE (Nha Le @ Sep 24 2005, 09:50 PM)
About 40 families in my former area now have very high educated kid. Its a shame to the family if their kid do no go to college. Since the parent can only dream through thier kid. The parents are often in thier 40 and no longer want to learn a new language. They work 8 hours a day near minumun wages. But after 15 years later I am so glad that most of the son and daughter of these families are doctors, lawyers, and engineers.
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One of the many things I don't like about CSVN is the way they treat S. VN soldiers. You have to remember that these soldiers followed oders from the higher ends and they fought to defend the aggression coming from the North just like the regular northern soiders think he's fighting to "liberate" the South. I don't know what will happen to them have not the US brought them over. CSVN prolly kept them in "education camps" till death. Even their kids are treated differently even tho these kids were not in the war. You guys should look into how CSVN take care of the S. VN soldiers cemetery in Bien Hoa too. They are young Vietnamese men and women who fought for their country and the living should respect that. Does not matter which side.

Another famous civil war is the American civil war. Just look how the north treated the south after the war. Were there "education camps", cemetery vandalism, discrimination, or harrassment? they even had the former "enemies" worked in the new government.

If we understand that, we will know why the most vocal against CSVN are the HO residents. Believe me, most of them don't like some of VNCH leaders either. CSVN owns an apology to the PEOPLE OF VIETNAM!
landsknechts
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Another famous civil war is the American civil war. Just look how the north treated the south after the war. Were there "education camps", cemetery vandalism, discrimination, or harrassment? they even had the former "enemies" worked in the new government.


The problem with this example is that the Confederate States did not join forces with any foreign armies to fight against the Union. The problem with South VN was that its soldiers were viewed by the North as collaborators with foreigners. South VN leaders should have rejected the coming of U.S troops like their predecessor Ngo Dinh Diem at any costs, even martydoom.
bluelakedragon
QUOTE (landsknechts @ Sep 26 2005, 01:18 AM)
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Another famous civil war is the American civil war. Just look how the north treated the south after the war. Were there "education camps", cemetery vandalism, discrimination, or harrassment? they even had the former "enemies" worked in the new government.


The problem with this example is that the Confederate States did not join forces with any foreign armies to fight against the Union. The problem with South VN was that its soldiers were viewed by the North as collaborators with foreigners. South VN leaders should have rejected the coming of U.S troops like their predecessor Ngo Dinh Diem at any costs, even martydoom.
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Please look up the facts before you make that statement. British did joined the Confederate in the war.

"British nationals in the Union Army won 67 Congressional Medals of Honor4 during the Civil War. Many who fought for the Confederacy were undocumented, but a number of senior officers were British. As ever in fields of battle, there was a generous representation from Ireland, including General Patrick Cleburne of the Confederate Army, born in Cork, commanding a division in the Army of Tennessee. He too had served in the British Army, the 41st Regiment of Foot, in which he reached the rank of Corporal."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A912386

when will we see this in Vietnam:
The Civil War Campaign Medal is considered the first campaign service medal of the United States military. The decoration was awarded to members of the Union and Confederate militaries who had served in the American Civil War between 1861 and 1865.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_Campaign_Medal


anyways, collaborations or not, if you want united Vietnam, you would not treat your countrymen like that. I ask you: do you accept the treatments the S. VN soldiers got from CSVN?
vietpho
my dad was in the war, but i dont kno if he's an officer or not. He didn't mention it or i dont understand wat he saying cuz he drunk all the time, but we came over here by the HO program. I didn't kno wat it was a first until i read this. preciate it
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