I see lots of young pilipinos with really ingrained Americanism within them. I mean they are more patriotic than some rednecks. They are huge fans of Good Guys hot rods, wrestling, footbal shows, etc.

I also see lots of hip hop wannabees. I mean, these guys r not ur typ. hip-hop fashion followers, they're hard core. They seemed to think genuinely that they're sometype of blacks.

Pilipinos, are you asian or are you america's stepchildren?

I don't think Pilipinos identify themselves with Chinese/ Asians at all, vice versa. I know many pilipinos and my group can't hang out with them at all, we don't even talk. They hang with the blacks and whites. They shunned asian kids cuz they think we're too clique.

So they wanna be accepted as Patriotic Americans?
Is the Nation of Pihillipine America's biatch?


cheers

Be warn. Post the topic ONLY once! report the topic if it is in the wrong section and I will move it. Do not post twice or warnings will be given.

My apologies again!

Sorry!

I agree, Phillo's try more to identify with US culture and Spanish religion then form their own identity.

Its weird hey! -

can't really blame the flips. they were colonize by the sapaniards and americans respectively. i've encountered flips that are proud of the fact that they were colonized people. they even thank the spaniards for colonizing them cuz if it weren't for them, there will be no christianty in the philippines. lames @$$ excuse. christianity is a fu-king joke. filps stand proud being victims of white imperialism. a lot of my hommiez are flips tho. peace ya'll!

HAHHAHAHHA

So true.

They are fanatical about Christianity there. Like there Jeepny are driving shrines.

Yet some of their old stories are cool. Like the Mananunggal (Spelling?). Witch lady who at night takes off her legs and flys. She has a really long tongue she uses to enter pregnent women through teir belly button to steal the souls of unborn babies. The only way to kill the Witch women is to put hot coals on her legs so that when she returns she cant put the back on, so she will fly until the sun raises and kills her.

Alot of Filipinos like everything that is American but it doesn't necessarily mean we agree with them. Mainly because we were colonize by them therefore we are heavily influenced. Filipinos also value being Christians, we have strong belief.

azn_pyde_viet, if you are gonna bash at something, justify it or else "$HUT THE H3LL UP!" Filipino's dont stand proud being victims of white imperialism or else they would still be controlling our country, you have no idea.

Blanker, what are you talking about??? US influence and Spanish religion is part of our identity, you really have no idea that trash is coming out of your mouth. The term fanatical is wrong, we value Christianity because it is our religion! Its like saying Japan is fanatical about Shinto and Buddhism. You really have no idea.

oni-mx, Filipinos are Asian, we are influenced from the past colonization. Your post is rather offensive than trying to find explanations.


I suggest you guys study more about Philippine history. You guys are so clue less and mainly pathetically bashing!

"So they wanna be accepted as Patriotic Americans?
Is the Nation of Pihillipine America's biatch?"

I believe that the americans saving them from japan had a large hand in that.

So what you are saing is US influence and SPanish religion is part of Philo natural identity?

I take that as you saying Philo's have lost 3/4 of their identity to the US and Spanish. Sorry I see it as I call it.

Christianity is not "your" religion, the spanish introduced it to you as a means of control. I think Christian Asians have no idea, because its not their natural religion. Its like a white American buddhist. Doesn't make sense. I mean each to their own, if you need that then stick with it, what ever floats your boat. But really Christianity is a Roman religion that infected much of the free world.

Like Irland, in the 16 century the entire place was Pagen. Now they are fernatical christian, because an English priest started off in Irland. The same English priest learnt it from Romans.

Besides I have been to the Phil's and Philo's are fanatical about it, you can't say they aren't.

Well the Phillipines isn't a Christian country. It is a Catholic country. And if Christianity isn't a natural religion for Far East people than neither is Buddhism since wasn't Buddha an Indian????

Religons shouldn't be classifed by race, since Christianity wasn't even started in Europe but it was started in the Middle East, and the Middle East is in Asia right?

If you are pilipinos, you are almost always a christian/ cath. (they are one and the same to me)

pilipinos are slowly abandoning their own culture. Just take a visit to Daily city in San Francisco and you know what I mean.

Their comunity are similar to that of blacks, it has a getho feel to it.

Just my humble two-eyed observation....

Budhism in china is no longer related to hinduism. We have developed our own pagan Budhism, Taoism, where we worship not just Gods, but also our ancestors, and ghosts, and montains.

Chinese always managed to come out strong and not be converted into another culture because we are proud, and our identity strong.

It is natural because it happened to evolve in our society as of today, if the Spanish and the Americans havent colonized Philippines, the religion would've been determined by the current dominating tribal chief or Datu because Philippines is composed of so many small settlements and villages from groups of colonist from another place of Malayan origin.

So you cant say we lost any identity because if it wasnt for whatever happen in the past, we wouldn't be Filipinos like you know as of today. Its the past that makes us not what if...or because of this...

If Christianity is not our religion then what is it then??? What is natural to you??? Do you really associate religion with race?? because Im Asian I can't be Christian? or Muslim because Im not Arab??


So why dont you learn some Philippine history before the Spanish colonization to clear your cloudy mind up?

Ohh, there you go! Always want to make sure you guys are always superior. What? We are not strong and not proud because of what happened in the past?? You cant do a fair comparison.

You are a hypocrite saying "Asians reunite", ever since I moved to the West, Asians have always been separated by race, I never knew why? Because there's always that group(s) who bashes the other thinking we are more superior and this and that. Ohhh please, get over yourself and your non-sense pride.

You know how Asians should reunite? No non-sense pathetic bashing of other culture, any stupid nitpicking, or any conceited pride of thy race and culture. Asians here should be labeled Asian-Americans and no stupid division of Chinese-American, Vietnamese-Americam, Filipino-American, Korean-American, etc...we are all Asians anyways. the way I see it now is theres too much separation...


Oh please continue...

I don't think race should determine what religion you are, however countries like Japan, Korea and China, embrace their religious past and didn't dump it for the first new thing introduced.

I just think its a shame that Asian countries who have such a progressive belief system i.e. Buddhism, Taoism, Zen etc would step back wards to Christianity.

It just doesn't make sense.

China does value its culture and traditions more then most countries. I respect that. China rocks!

if you want explanation, you wouldnt ask questions in "Is the Nation of Pihillipine America's biatch?" way..
what do you have against filipinos anyway? they are christians, so what? so what do you think should Philippines religion be? should it be muslim, buddhist? what?
just because they like football,wrestling blah blah.. doesnt mean they are not asians.. its like saying "I love kimchi.. I should be Asian". I agree with the hip-hop thing yeah they look stupid, but is it your business to judge them? why are you eating at mc donalds? if your chinese food is so good then why did you bother to go to the US and live there? why dont you stay in your country and become the typical chinese you are.. after all you were the only ones who build a WALL to keep everybody out.

do you want us to follow your chinese steps? well if thats what you want, you could have done it a long time ago but unfortunately the americans are more powerful than you and didnt give you the chance to occupy our country.. too bad. but since the americans occupied our country(not the chinese).. we inherited tons of things from them.

you dont like wrestling... does it make you more of an asian than us?
so what if we like wrestling?? does it bother you because we dont watch kungfu?(i like kungfu btw..)

why dont you try to fix your country first before saying sh*t about other countries?

2 billion people only in CHINA?

I dont worship america and I dont hate america.. If you on the other hand hate filipino/americans or hip-hop wannabees then go back to your country where you cant see them and that will stop bothering you.

you know.. I wouldnt have been personal and said all that if you asked in a nice way.. but Im sure from your question, and they way you asked the question that you are a racist and I hate racist like you!
Philippine is free... what about China?

oh yeah.. catholics are christians too.

Philippines is a product of a synthesis of various cultures, from eastern Oriental and Malay origins, to the western cultures of Spain and America. Philippines NEVER dumped their religious past. Filipinos still believe and incorporate it the old belief system. BTW, in the south Philippines, Islam was introduced during the 14th century on the islands of Mindanao and Sulu. What are you gonna say? We took the Arab people's religion??? Or we should embrace it even more because this was a pre-Spain colonization religion???




Spain settled, bringing with them education, fashion, and most importantly, religion.



Is Christianity a step back for the Philippines? No, because its progressive belief system. You basically dont know the history of the Philippines...you can ask questions and explanations but dont butt your silly assumptions and comparisons because Philippines wasn't and was never like China, Korea, or Japan. :genius: Philippines never had a dominating religion like Buddhism, Taoism, Zen, etc..the only 2 significant ones are Christianity and Islam.

Philippines does value its culture and traditions more then most countries. I respect that. Philippine rocks!

Feel free to ask all of your rhetorical questions...you guys are unbelievable!

So because the Philippines never had a religion before Christianity and Islam that could indicate why the are fanatical about it. Its like a fad, kind of like pokemon, but biblical.

Let's drop the religiuous thing here, it's getting uncomfortable. What I'm trying to say is, and I agree with Blanker, that Philipinos embraced American is a very sort of weird way. Almost like how a servant has taken a fondness for everything his master does.

That is different from the Japanese embracing the American fashion, to them it's just fashion. But Philipinos tend to go way beyond....

They are America's stepchilren. Almost like Canada, but Canada has more leverage.

Catholicism is a Christian religion. It is a sect of Christianity.

And I'll agree, there is no 'natural religion'. It depends on the person and what they believe.

oni-mix Canada is in no way America's stepchild. A British one yes, but by no means American.

hahaha there you go again with your fanatical, now you're done accusing Filipino's of being fanatical, how about targeting the Mexicans, Brazillians and all those South American countries that got colonized and started worshipping another foreign religion?! Feel free to bash and degrade them with your non-stop pathetic assumptions. You're just making yourself sound like a idiotic dumb imbecile who bashes and degrades another race and culture without justifying them.


Smart thing to drop the religious subject because you guys cant support your arguments.

What you dont understand is why we have American, Malay, Chinese and Spanish culture embedded in our OWN culture? Philippines has a unique history and complex cultural amalgamation experienced by the Philippines over the last few centuries. With its almost 400 years of domination under Spain and with almost half a century of American rule, Philippines, along with its own indigenous culture, has become a “melting pot” of culture. Sociologists would probably describe the American colonial era as one of cultural penetration, with American culture, values, and behaviors being superimposed on top of the already complicated matrix of native and Spanish blended culture. Even after the traumatic Japanese invasion and occupation, and after Philippine independence in 1946, the American influence has remained predominant and well until now. Today's Philippines has been shaped by Spanish, American, Malay, Chinese, and native influences -- and that the outcome is a complex blend of mixed cultures.

I know the fact that you cant stand or even accept Philippines as a country of mix culture. Well reality check dude, look at the past! The past made it all.

Japan or China were never heavily influenced and superimposed by Spanish or Americans culutre in terms government, education religion, manners, etc...so you cant EVEN compare it to the Philippines.

Filipinos do embrace American culture because it is PART of our culture, THESAME APPLIES TO Malay, Chinese and Spanish.


I dont understand why you guys like bashing and degrading Filipino culture because it is somewhat different than yours and because it was shaped differently. You dont even know what its like being a Filipino.

Before you make useless arguments, support your facts and learn some history of another culture before you go recklessly bashing and degrading it.

you guys are full of half truths and contrary mentalities.

it is asian who i see in here trying to look down on filipino. you guys are the ones all the time spreading words that filipinos are not asian.

2ndly it is part of OUR CULTURE this spanish and american lifestyle. that is make up of who we are. it is part of our history. If you cant understand that then you just need to go back to elementary school and learn definitioin of history.

3rd. ben, you are contrary. you allow this type of conversaion but you will discriminate me and warn me excessively. All i see throghout these forum are many derogatory and condescending remark towards filipinos, all of which are allowed. but when i try to introduce the realtionship between khmai & malay there is riot.and everyone try to make me look like bad guy. such as when that menikani is allowed to post that artcile i wrritten to this racist. trying to make me look as a bad guy in the threads. this is all allowed to be on the board.

discrimination.

if you people dont respect filipino, dont even mention us. i wont stand by and allow you to degrade MY people. you are gawd damn crazy to think otherwise and contrary if you feel pain and anger when others dergotrize your ethnicity but are all ready to attack mine. very telling of how your heart is only feel for yourself.'

4, you are all ready to degrade the filipino malay. but what about our brother indonesian malay and malaysian malay who are muslim? you guys all ready to question wheter filipino Malay are asian or not because of geography etc, BUT, seldom do i ever see you even mention indonesian Malay and malaysian Malay who are 2 island hop away from us whoa are the same Malay Ethnicity except they are influence by muslim and filipino are influence by christanity.

you guys are so contrary. do you not realize that white man are the ones who split up these islands in the first place, before white man come in 16th century there were no boardders in the past there was only the Malay Arhcipelago and Malay Penninsula and the malay ethnicity was sailing from island to island. white man is the one who impose white western culture on the philippine who are people you are so ready to think infeior.

but you are support them by going along with this white invention of "the Philippines" "indonesia" and "malaysia" and say we are not related. You know what are True native culture is? AUSTRONESIAN. you know who is only people who continue to practice native Austronesian culture? PACIFIC ISLANDERS!!!!!!!! So it is only natural for me to feel identity as a pacific islander.

you sso stupid.



Buddhism is not "your" religion. Budhism come to east & southeast asia from INDIA who are people that are INDO-EUROPEAN this means native BLACK DRAVIDAN much like negritos mixed with ARYANS WHO ARE WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is foreign to mongiold asia. i hope you can understand that. & i always hear asians question are "indian/desi" asian?

Asians natural religion is anmistic.khmer, chinese, japanese, korean viet, malay are originally anhmnisit. there is basically 4 major religion in this world.

1 christanity origin is middleast.
2 islam origin is middle east
3 hinduism origin is india.
4 buddhism origin is india.

the only reason why you asian think buddhism originate in your land is because you WARP THE FEATURE AND IMAGE OF BUDDHA to have chinesey eye and look like yourself. but buddha is indian dark indian. filipinos can warp the image of jesus and make him look chinesey eye and tan skin black hair dark skin, but we do not because we are not so SUPERFICIAL and TRIVIAL to think that if its not the image of us it is worthless religion.

so everyone else is influenced from either isreal or india.
so stupid comments you guys make.



how can ONE asian in america think they are better than ANOTHER asian in america you are the same as us, you experince the same sterotype and genraltion just like us your ancestor came to this country with no money no land no nothing as well filipino community is not the same as black. we have different sence of barangay our concept of community is from pre-colonial era so you dont know what you say. i hate you for this. fien Bathala na! tell me what ethnicity you are so i can hate you people to the fullest im ready to erase you presence from my memory. you are non-existant to me for shure.



well gues what? if chinese intergrate native paganism to the buddhist lifestyle then so did the filipino. we itergrate the native pagan of our people into christanity. it survive in myth, legend and superstition.

even Indonesian and Malaysian mix their pre-isslamic religion into islam. which is "illegal" to arabs because they believe islam is perfect and you can not mix it. So if anything you should be chastizing islam or be concern with Indoneisan and Malaysian who are living the muslim life, because arab muslim extremist are threatening Malaysian malay and Indoneisan Malay pre-islamic history by ttrying to have it erased.



blanter you are black heart. you are trying to impose your belifs on the filipno. you need to be open minded and accept filipino as is.

im actually upset with asian now. make me desire to severe all tie with you. i dont have to put up with yoru bullshiet. now you know why filipino feel brotherhood with black & white. because obviosuly you are push us away from you. black & white are acept espeically black community this is my experince with them. i find very much in common with blacks, whites, and hispanic. i never been met this way with them. i never have to proove myself i am accept as is. i think maybe you jealous that filipino are able to fit in america more better than you asians yes?

what i can't seem to understand is why did the filipinos allowed the spaniards to control their country for 400 years? i think if filipinos rebelled against them earlier, things would've been different. could someone explain to me about the history of the spanish in the philippines?

Of course we didn't allowed them and be all helpless to be conquered! At first, Lapu-Lapu a 'Datu' killed Ferdinand Magelland(Spaniard who discovered th island) because he didn't agree with him and his conquest of the Philippines. In the Spanish era, they were so many revolts and rebellions and so many 'secret societies' formed just oust the "Conquistadores" but they have short lived but never gave it up. Until US defeated Spain, they took control of the Philippines.

Our national hero Jose Rizal is a real 'Filibustero'. Thats why they killed him.


If you want a more detailed and more structured explanation of the history, either use Google for Philippines History or let me know.

NO ONE ALLOW ANYTHING. SPANAIRDS USE DIVIDE AND CONQUER TACTIC TO TURN BROTHER MALAY AGAINST BROTHER MALAY. AND COUP WITH SUPERIOR TECHNOLOGY & WEAPON. PHILIPPINE WAS NOT UNIFIED REGION. THERE WAS:

1. IGOROT MALAY WHO PRACTICE NATIVE AUSTRONESIAN CULTURE IN LUZON REGION (BIG NORTH ISLAND)

2. SHIVIJAH MALAY WHO WHO PRACTICE THE HINDU CULTURE IN VISAYA REGION (MIDDLE ISLANDS)

3. LUMAD MALAY WHO PRACTICE NATIVE AUSTRONESIAN CULTURE IN MINDANAO REGION (BIG SOUTHERN ISLAND)

4. MORO MALAY WHO PRACTICE THE MUSLIM CULTURE IN SULU ARCHIPELAGO (LITTLE SOUTHERN ISLANDS BELOW MINDANAO)

THE ONLY MALAY WHO IS CONQUER BY THE SPANAIRDS WAS THE SHIVJA MALAY OF VISAYA REGION. ALL OTHER MALAY, THE IGOROT, LUMAD, AND MORO FOUGHT VAILIENT AND NEVER WERE CONQUERED ONLY* DISPLACE IN THEIR ANCESTRAL LANDS OR BECOME SLAVE IF CAPTURED. THEY NEVER ADOPT CHRISTIAN OR SPANISH LIFESTYLE. THEY FOUGHT ALL 300 YEARS THAT THE SPNAISH WAS IN THE PHILIPPINES. THE SPANIARD HIRED SRIVIJAYA MALAY TO ATTACK AND PUSH THE UNCONQUERABLE MALAY INTO THE MOUNTAINS AND TOOK OVER MOST OF THE LOW LANDS.

THE UNCONQUERABLE MALAY ALSO FOUGHT FOR 50 YEARS AFTER SPANISH WHEN AMERICANS KICK OUT THE SPANIARDS AND TOOK ROLE AS NEW COLONIZER. AND THEY DID NOT LOSE TO AMERICAN EITHER.

no he is SRI/RAJAH (chief) Lapu-Lapu. he is hindu culture from srivijaha.

Datu is native (chief) from borneo origin. such as Datu Puti. in legend of 10 borneo cheif who excape land and settle in the philippines & met the Ati (negrito) on Panay island and so become the Ati-Atihan vestival.

Sultan is (chief) of Moro people such as Sultan Kudarat.

THESE SOME FLAGS OF PHILIPPINES:

A) CORDILLERA PEOPLE'S FLAG (FOR THE IGOROT AUTONOMOUS REGION):





Explanation of the flag
The Cordillera people are 7 interior people native to Cordillera mountains which stretch from North Borneo all the way to Luzon Island. The flag has 8 lances: 7 which represent the 7 interior people and 1 which represents the Tagalog people. The flag is also used with the letters CPDF in black under the emblem when it is used as the flag of the Cordillera People's Democratic Front.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordillera_Ad...strative_Region

B) 1ST FLAG OF PHILIPPINE REVOLUTION TO GAIN INDEPENDENCE FROM SPAIN:



The first flag was that of movement Katipunan, created by Benita Rodriguez with the aid of the wife of Bonifacio, Gregoria de Jesus. The flag was a red rectangle red with three "K" white in a horizontal alignment. Some members of the movement used a variant of the flag in which one of the three "K"s was put above the other two forming a triangle. A third variant had a single K on it. The Katipunan, which literally translates to Society or Association, began on July 7, 1892. Jaume shows their war standard as the red flag with three white K's in a horizontal alignment. The K's stood for "Kataastaasan Kagalanggalangan Na Katipunan ng Mga Anak Ng Bayan". Loosely translated to mean the "Highest and Most Respectable Society of the Sons of the People."

IT EVOLVE TO BECOME THE PRESENT FLAG:



C) SEPARATIST MINDANAO FLAG OF MORO PEOPLE:





Flag of the Mindanao Independence Movement: vertically divided red-white-yellow, with thin red and yellow stripes. In the center, yellow star and crescent flanked by Arabic (?) script. Source: Flags of Aspirant Peoples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Re...Muslim_Mindanao

D) GENERAL AREA OF INDIGENOUS LUMAD TERRITORIES OF MINDANAO:



http://www.mindanao.com/kalinaw/people/lumad-strugge.htm

THE LEAST STUDY HAS BEEN MADE OF THE NON-MUSLIM ETHNIC TRIBES OF THE MINDANAO HIGHLANDS. tHE MORE THAN 10 TRIBES, AMONG THE MOST HEAVILY COSTUMED AD MOST COLORFUL, LIVE IN RELATIVE ISOLATION IN THE MINDANAO INTERIOR.

OF MALAY STOCK, THE TIRURAY ARE A HORSE-RIDING HILL PEOPLE OCCUPYING THE MOUNTAINS OF SOUTHWEST MINDANAO. THE T'BOLI TRIBE OF LAKE SEBU IN COTABATO HAVE A WEALTH OF CRAFTS, ELABORATE ETHNIC COSTUMES, AND A VIVACIOUS DANCES AND MUSIC. THEY ARE ALSO ADMIRED FOR THEIR HANDSOME BRASSWORK, WHICH FINDS ITS WAY INTO STATUES, BELTS, CHAINS, AND TINKLING ANKLETS WORN BY HEAVILY-ORNAMENTED TRIBAL WOMEN.

THE BAGOBO LIVE ALONG THE DESOLTED EASTERN COAST OF THE GUL OF DAVAO. IN INTIATING THE METAL ARTS OF THE MORO, THE TRIBE DEVELOPED AN ORNATE TRADITION IN WEAPRONY AS WELL AS INLAID, BELL-BEJANGL METAL BOXES. THE SUBANON OF WESTERN LANAO PINOEERED ON OF THE COUNTRIES STRONGEST TRADITIONS OF POTTERY. THE 50,00 STRONG BUKIDON OF EAST LANAO IS A TRIBE OF FIERCLY INDEPDENT HIGHLANDERS.


The Lumads
Not considering the Moros, who are Islamised Lumads, there are 17 Lumad ethnic groups spread out in 19 provinces (according to the Lumad Development Center Inc). Of the 17, six have a population of 200,000 to 300,000. (Table below).
Lumad Ethnic Group Population:
1. Subanen 311,000
2. Mandaya/Mansaka 300,000
3. Manuvu 250,000
4. B'laan 250,000
5. T’Boli 227,955
6. Teduray 204,080



http://www.cpcabrisbane.org/Kasama/1997/V11n3/Mindanao.htm

Well thanks for the clarifications malay_ako, you do posses proficient knowledge about the Philippines and its history.


Now, I'm gonna get me some of this flag to show my 'Katipunan' movement pride and wave it or put it on my t-shirt and walk by East Compton...and pray that I dont get shot!

Last point.

Colonized countries such as Hong Kong and India didn't embrace the culture of their oppressors anywhere as much as the Philippines.

Ok one more last point.

My ex-girl friend was Philo, we dated for 2 and half years. I have moved on however still love the girl, her family, their culture and their country. Philo's are awriight

Pilipinos are a lost race....

Why are you guys avoding the real point and eluding the real facts?? Instead you guys, "uuhhh, oh well, India is this and Hong Kong is that...uhhh....my girlfriend is pilipino....uhhhh....so I dont hate you...uhhhh..." or "uuhhh...Pilipino are a lost race....uhhh.." What a pathetic bunch of dumba$$es.

Blanker and Oni-Mx you guys are such typical Fiipino haters. You guys cant even make up a good argument.

I feel disgusted my fellow Asians would look down upon another culture and race. Oh wait, you guys are exceptions, you seem to be holding up a grudge and some type of hate and jealousy.

Well case CLOSED!

I don't hate anyone, or any race for that matter. My comments are all observations.

I just think philo culture is not as rich as other countries due to the fact it has been diluted by colonisation.

Don't take it to personally. Hey its just my opinion and I could be wrong.

Look down upon me my Asian brother!

I don't look down upon you. I just think its a shame. Its a shame in the same way that many other cultures have been lost throughout the world.

JMAC,
Point 1: We're not all knowing, so these are just my own thoughts based on a few years of living in USA. In some case, a newcomer can have a more objective views of things.

Point 2: This is a forum, let's discuss things. I don't claim myself to be PC. Those people that claimed to be neutral, love every race are some of the fakest dumbass. I still have opinions and thoughts, as offensive as it may be. If you disagree, bring out your points and don't get personal.

Point 3: In terms of a race with identity, Pilipinos has the most mix of other cultures, and since they don't convert/ change/ filter out those influences (taking-in other race's culture verbatim), the result is a race with a very mosaic identity. Nice in some ways because it has a bit of everything, asian, south asian, euro, spanish, american etc.
But bad because their own identity is lost in return, drowned by the others.

Do you not agree?

I can pinpoint directly at things that are chinese, japanese, european, american, spanish. But pilipinos are all of those, and at the same time, none of those.

that's why i opt to use the flag below which is also a later flag of the philippine revolution. It has more ethnic symbolism.

Flag adopted by the Magdalo faction in Cavite in 1896.
General Aguinaldo's flag bearing the letter "K" from the pre-Hispanic Philippine alphabet (Hindu Script called Baybayin). The eight rays represent the first 8 provinces that rose up in revolt against Spain: Manila, Bulacan, Pampanga, Nueva Ecija, Tarlac, Laguna, Batangas, & Cavite.

And to blanter.

Philippines had to face Spanish conloniers who impose their religion and culture on the natives. British where different colonizer who concentrate more on power & money and allow the native to continue their traditions.

KLU KLUX KLAN?

If you take the time to further study and even explore another ones culture maybe you wouldn't have that narrow minded thinking of yours. It must be hard for you to live in the USA.

I agree, lets discuss things in an appropriate way without stating your prejudice and non-sense bashing. Look, if you hate another race or culture, its fine with me, no one is telling you to like something. Sometimes I cant help being personal with discussions like this because your arguments are driven by your blind assumptions and personal prejudice. I tried to be factual with you guys but you kept on butting in your personal non-sense crap.

What did we loose??? This is where you dont see our point, we didn't LOOSE any identity, we gained indentity as a Filipino, Philippines is a rich multi-cultural nation because of its past and thats what makes us a Filipino.


Why is it so hard for you guys to understand the progression and evolution of ones culture?? Culture is not a like a rock that is gonna stay a rock for eternity.

it originated in the Philippines, what you didn't know that?

Maybe that's why you guys are so similar with americans, it's a melting pot of cultures. All in one, all but not one.

I do think original philipine has a very rich ethnic culture, but unfortunately neither the nation nor pilipinos are appreciative enough to carry on those original traditions. Instead, they embrace the colonizers' cultures and forgo their own. What a shame.

Multi-ethnicity is all fine, but at the cost of what? A people without clear roots.

You know melting pot used to be a GREAT idea, very PC and every one loved it. Now, preserving cultures are in. Even china, which destroys its own culture during the cultural revolution, is preserving monuments and building cultural centers around the world now for chinese living overseas...

Pilipinos are proud to be all the race at once, but I think in real life it's not that glamorous.

Much like one trying to see into a broken mirror, you see many faces, not one is true.

IMHO

It's unfair to make presumptions based on your observations of Filipinos living in America, why don't you come here in the Philippines and observe Filipinos in general. You said that your question should not be taken personally but it is personal. I don't know why this topic is allowed in the first place coz it's very bias!!!! and BLANKER its FILIPINO not PILIPINO!!!!


azn_pyde_viet>>>> KKK stands for Kagalanggalang, Kataastaasang Katipunan ng mga Anak ng Bayan not Klu Klux Klan ok? :genius:

Its no use arguing with someone who is a narrow minded individual who has preconceived judgment on another culture.

These guys try to contrast their culture with our culture then states that "They are more superior because our culture happened to be different than theirs". There are too many of these Asians...they talk such pity to try to look down upon us.


Asians in the West complain about so much stuff like equality, etc.. well be damn...Asians cant even get along with each other...pretty sad...


I requested this thread to be closed but Ben didn't so we continue...

I agree with you, but this topic really makes me mad In the 1st place why is oni-mx so concern with this topic. Maybe he has a grudge with FIlipinos or something.

It offended me in a confusing way since it came from a fellow Asian. If it was from a non-Asian, I would definitely bash and make low blows about his culture but bashing another Asian like these guys do would be like arguing with your little brother because he has a hissy fit, jealousy and bad tantrums against you.

Where is the love??

Maybe he doesn't want Filipinos to be asian.


OFF TOPIC:


One of the member of Black Eyed Peas (I think its Apol) is a Filipino, he was even proud to say that he is a Filipino in the recent MTV Asia Awards.

heheh yeah I downloded the MTV Asian Awards! I was so happy to see (Apl.de.Ap)yeah weird name! and talked in Tagalog! BTW, have you heard their song with a Tagalog chorus?? (The Apl Song)

I like the Apol song Lapit mga kaibigan at makinig kayo may dala dala akong balita galing sa bayan ko. I forgot the rest.

Go ahead, low blow me, bash me. I won't throw tantrums, promise! I take take all those, cause I know it's just debating. I have yet to say one word of profanity.

I was hoping for a healthy dose of rebuttals, but got a bunch of whiners.
You guys are living in a rose colored world: ahhhh everything is beautiful, every one is cool, all cultures are nice, yessss, let's all sing Barney's "I love u, u love me" lalala alala...

Can someone from pilipin take criticism? No? You can only take praises?...so naive.

I have been giving healthy rebuttals from your unhealthy bashing and yet so ignorant to accept the facts. I guess in your definition bashing=criticism. hahah I still have to see a constructive criticism of yours.

now calm down little brother, its ok, now go see mommy...

of course we filipinos can take criticism, as JMAC said criticism to you is equal to bashing. Is your topic leading to any good? I mean what will you get out of it?

Just trying to find out what pilipinos in the US are thinking....