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Art show explores cross-cultural dynamics among Asians and African-Americans

BY FELICIA FEASTER

If you want to instantly stir up bad blood between blacks and whites, all you have to do is show a white guy sporting the $hit-eating goober grin and corked skin of blackface.

Blackface is commonly understood as an embarrassing blot on American race relations -- a gesture of disrespect in which white minstrel entertainers performed a highly specious vision of "blackness."

Most view 19th century American minstrelsy as a crude white approximation of black "style." But blackface historians such as Nick Tosches have suggested that some of minstrelsy's stars, like Emmett Miller, were acting out a misguided homage of sorts, the kind of whitey search for soul that is evident in phenomena ranging from Eminem to square white guys shouting appreciation for Halle Berry's pulchritude to show how down they are with the black thing.

Artist Iona Rozeal Brown also suggests there might be something more to blackface than racist parody if you look at the intriguing Japanese phenomenon of ganguro.

In ganguro, fashion-forward Japanese girls take a cue from the media's images of black Americans, covering their faces with dark brown makeup and adopting a style somewhere between Hello Kitty cute and a Shaft funk-a-thon of platform shoes and fur collars.

Brown was intrigued by the ganguro's wacked-out spin on "black" when she traveled to Japan and has created a body of artwork centered on this cultural fluke. The "a3" in her show's title stands for the invented term "afro-Asiatic allegory," which she uses to make a compelling connection between diverse styles of cultural "drag."

The exhibition examines both the Japanese adoption of African-American style and how African-American women appropriate Asian fashion. In her richly colored, slick graphic paintings that suggest Patrick Nagel's sexed-up illustrations, Brown shows African-American women wearing the kimonos and rosebud lipstick of the geisha combined with a more contemporary, sexually unapologetic gaze. Brown suggests that with the rage for sushi, anime, karaoke and rice rockets, a superficial pop culture idea of Japan has also taken root in American life.

But those works of black women in Asian drag are for the most part a pale comparison to the real meat of black on both sides -- a laugh-out-loud riff on 16th and 17th century Japanese Ukiyo-e woodblock prints, which depict shy Japanese geishas and fierce samurai warriors sporting hip-hop style.

Working in a pleasingly timeworn, subtle color scheme, Brown does a ganguro number on the stylized gestures of those ivory-faced geishas. She covers their faces (their alabaster skin left peeking out at the edges) with dark brown makeup in the ganguro style, and adorns their kimonos with modern pop culture iconography like marijuana leaves or Gucci logos. Brown shows how black culture has in many ways become a global style transported across class, race and geographical lines.

Gone are the passive geisha poses, as these hepster geishas spin records on turntables or smoke a spliff, letting the smoke curl from their lips in hyper-articulated curlicues. Brown has a real eye for fashiony details, capturing the pooling-at-the-ankles jeans, Adidas sneakers, Erykah Badu headwraps, Kangol caps and rhinestone-embedded press-on nails of these funked-out geishas. There are label-queen geishas slugging Hennessey and decked out in Burberry plaid, and O.G.s sporting the same wild-eyed macho attitude and sneers of 18th century samurai.

Brown also makes a connection between the stylized sexual fetishes of the geisha -- the cupid bow lips, the alabaster makeup, the mincing walk -- and contemporary culture with its own fetishy trick bag. If such bizarre white skin and extreme female acquiescence can be fetishized as an ideal, why can't black be beautiful, too, as the ganguro girls seems to demand?

It is an art world cliche to say that our identities amount to a "performance," but dang if Brown doesn't make it so.


i found this and wanted to post it. No doubt this is the aftermath of 'The Last Samurai'. What's really insulting is the african american community is very racist, racially arrogant, and strangely egotistical(don't know why?) and now they want to kiss asia or actually 'japan's' rearend because of its cultural appeal to their ego whereas before the movie hit the theaters the majority of them were making FUN OF asians (pathetic and exploitive anyone?). This article is actually aggressive and demeaning of japanese culture, rifting parts of it for flagrant african-american sense of cultural empowerment. sure.gif
KoRn
*sigh* one movie did all this lol...
Staticneuron
The african american community is very racist? Why do you think so?
Blanker
Most Americans White - Black - Whatever, make fun of Asians, don't just single out the African American.

Look at Quentin Tarantino and his new movie Kill Bill. Its a strait rip off of Japanese Cinema he has just slapped some blue eyes and blond hair to it and called it original.

I think that the very suggestion that an American has enough discipline to live the life the way of the samurai is ridicules.

America has been ripping of Hong Kong Cinema for years and now it looks like Japans turn.
Dahlia
The ganguro phenomenon has been around for a few years in Japan, way before The Last Samurai appeared. What I don't understand is how this article relates this to African Americans, because when you see pictures of actual ganguro girls, they look like surfer beach Barbie dolls more than anything else. Honey blond hair, hideous white/glittering eye makeup, orange tan and colorful beach style fashion sense.

I'm not sure how this style came to be, but I got one word for it: UGLY!

Ganguro pictures

As for Kill Bill, it's blatantly obvious that the movie was more a hommage to asian martial arts films than a unique story about a blond chick with a samurai sword on the throes of revenge. I think Tarantino was very conscious of that and purposefully exaggerated many things, it's such a mainstream view of Japanese culture, but that was the idea. I personally found this movie very entertaining and stylish with groovy music.
Blanker
QUOTE (Dahlia @ Feb 27 2004, 01:35 AM)
As for Kill Bill, it's blatantly obvious that the movie was more a hommage to asian martial arts films than a unique story about a blond chick with a samurai sword on the throes of revenge. I think Tarantino was very conscious of that and purposefully exaggerated many things, it's such a mainstream view of Japanese culture, but that was the idea. I personally found this movie very entertaining and stylish with groovy music.


Sure it was entertaining, however Quentin Tarantino looks at what style is coming into fasion then rips off older movies and ideas to put his creation together. Entertaining yes - original no. Give me Shogan Assasin and Lone Wolf movies anyday.

As for the ganguro girls, I think its cute, kiss.gif except for some of the freaky make up stuff some of those girls had going on.
SakuraSkater
hmm.. haha there are more asians in america than there are blacks i believe. i don't know where all this racism is coming from.. but it's definately overboard. first off... every race in america hangs out with other races. why? because most of us could really care less about race. but there are idiots who try to make it a big deal.. then problems are started. i mean seriously... and stop taking everything so damn personal.


"he did this to me because i'm yellow!"

"he did this to me because i'm black!"

"he did this to me because i'm white!"

geez... it's getting old now, people.

by the way how can you be african-american, chinese-american, japanese-american etc? you're either american or not. you don't call a chinese person living in japan a "chinese-japanese". hmm saying mexican-american (or any of those *****-american names) is a real sneaky way to segrogate people politely.

if people had no knowledge of what "race" is... racism wouldn't exist because no one would care about something that didn't exist. but we are taught that we are "different" from each other. and we are taught to be "proud" of our color or nationality. well.. that's really fine and all..cept for one thing... IT'S TEACHING US HOW TO BE "RACIST"


ogumo is a perfect example. you guys aren't blind so you know what he's about. haha you know all about his "anti american" attitude.. err... actually not all americans .. just ones that happen to have white skin. sounds kind of racist to me.


but anyways... those girls are only cute for the simple fact..... they're cute girls lol... that whole trend is awful..
Ogumo
QUOTE (SakuraSkater @ Feb 27 2004, 06:18 AM)
hmm.. haha there are more asians in america than there are blacks i believe. i don't know where all this racism is coming from.. but it's definately overboard. first off... every race in america hangs out with other races. why? because most of us could really care less about race. but there are idiots who try to make it a big deal.. then problems are started. i mean seriously... and stop taking everything so damn personal.


"he did this to me because i'm yellow!"

"he did this to me because i'm black!"

"he did this to me because i'm white!"

geez... it's getting old now, people.

by the way how can you be african-american, chinese-american, japanese-american etc? you're either american or not. you don't call a chinese person living in japan a "chinese-japanese". hmm saying mexican-american (or any of those *****-american names) is a real sneaky way to segrogate people politely.

if people had no knowledge of what "race" is... racism wouldn't exist because no one would care about something that didn't exist. but we are taught that we are "different" from each other. and we are taught to be "proud" of our color or nationality. well.. that's really fine and all..cept for one thing... IT'S TEACHING US HOW TO BE "RACIST"


ogumo is a perfect example. you guys aren't blind so you know what he's about. haha you know all about his "anti american" attitude.. err... actually not all americans .. just ones that happen to have white skin. sounds kind of racist to me.


but anyways... those girls are only cute for the simple fact..... they're cute girls lol... that whole trend is awful..

hmm.. haha there are more asians in america than there are blacks i believe.

Now I KNOW you are a fool and will not even bother to read the rest of your god damn post. How can you not know that asians are the second smallest group only second to native americans? Really how could you NOT know that information. From this statement I believe everyone on this forum should take the information you put under close scrutiny. If you lack such BLATANT information as that. What other information do you lack?



Blanker:

I believe we will get along quite well on this forum.
SakuraSkater
do you live in america ogumo? nope you don't. i see more asians than i do blacks. man.. you really are a piece of work lol... actually you're an inbred dip$hit not worth pissing on. but it's all good. thing is look how many china towns are around the usa not to mention little tokyos there are so many asian communities here it's amazing.





yeah.. heh you two should get along fine since you're both imperialist hos hahaha:)
toonluv
asians are mostly concentrated in california and they are one of the smallest minorities in number. Blacks and hispanics comprise the largest demographic minorites in the u.s.
SakuraSkater
dude i hardly ever see black people. but yeah most asians prefer the west coast. i don't care what "polls" or statistics say. not everyone does those so they're usually way off the mark. i go by what i see. and i see more asians here than blacks.
herosword
QUOTE (Blanker @ Feb 27 2004, 01:50 AM)
As for the ganguro girls, I think its cute, kiss.gif except for some of the freaky make up stuff some of those girls had going on.

Hell, I'm a testorone driven male, but those girls are ugly yo. It's one thing to look white but it's another to look nasty trying to look white. I think I like my slim, natural hair, almond eyes, beautiful asian women better. Why can't Asian women realize they're beautiful and stop trying to be something they're not?
Ogumo
QUOTE (SakuraSkater @ Feb 27 2004, 06:40 PM)
do you live in america ogumo? nope you don't. i see more asians than i do blacks. man.. you really are a piece of work lol... actually you're an inbred dip$hit not worth pissing on. but it's all good. thing is look how many china towns are around the usa not to mention little tokyos there are so many asian communities here it's amazing.





yeah.. heh you two should get along fine since you're both imperialist hos hahaha:)

Incorrect again. Asians only make up 4% or so of the american population. Black are a much larger population. Now perhaps you really do see more asians in your area I will not doubt you. But their population is lower than the black population. Think before you talk.
SakuraSkater
4%? dude you need to check your info.. O_O
gaijinkokujin
QUOTE (Dahlia @ Feb 27 2004, 01:35 AM)
The ganguro phenomenon has been around for a few years in Japan, way before The Last Samurai appeared. What I don't understand is how this article relates this to African Americans, because when you see pictures of actual ganguro girls, they look like surfer beach Barbie dolls more than anything else. Honey blond hair, hideous white/glittering eye makeup, orange tan and colorful beach style fashion sense.

I'm not sure how this style came to be, but I got one word for it: UGLY!

beerchug.gif


THANK YOU

sheesh, I swear...im getting sick of hearing about these ganguro girls...I mean its a style yeah but blah.
IORI
Ganguros are few the fashion has pretty much disappeared.There's another extremer version they tan it till they are black and they dye there hair white which looks very unhealthy.
huaren
Black peoples in this world, in America, England or anywhere. What a joke these black peoples. They have no right to make fun of Asian. Why? Look at these black peoples, they are black and stupid. Why I say them stupid? because this is the truth look at what they have. They did not study, they are lazy, unlike Asian, we do business and we can live in a better life because we know how to earn money. Just visit American and you can see almost 99% of black are poor. What a shame of these black peoples.

Usually these black peoples are jealous of what the Asian have.
Shadowcleric
QUOTE (huaren @ Feb 28 2004, 07:39 AM)
Black peoples in this world, in America, England or anywhere. What a joke these black peoples. They have no right to make fun of Asian. Why? Look at these black peoples, they are black and stupid. Why I say them stupid? because this is the truth look at what they have. They did not study, they are lazy, unlike Asian, we do business and we can live in a better life because we know how to earn money. Just visit American and you can see almost 99% of black are poor. What a shame of these black peoples.

Usually these black peoples are jealous of what the Asian have.

I have to disagree with this obviously over-generalized stated belief about the intellectual ability of black people. Some of my best friends are black and are both articulate and very intelligent in their pursuits in life. The world is not a perfect place and there will always be stupid people, regardless of what culture they come from or where they live and it will be nature of their ignorance make things worse for everyone else. This won't change and likely never will but blaming an entire culture for a small group's actions is both narrow-minded and reflects poorly upon the spirit of keeping an open mind to people living in different parts of the world.
It might not hurt for you to go to this website and look up black history. http://search.eb.com/blackhistory/
huaren
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I have to disagree with this obviously over-generalized stated belief about the intellectual ability of black people. Some of my best friends are black and are both articulate and very intelligent in their pursuits in life. The world is not a perfect place and there will always be stupid people, regardless of what culture they come from or where they live and it will be nature of their ignorance make things worse for everyone else. This won't change and likely never will but blaming an entire culture for a small group's actions is both narrow-minded and reflects poorly upon the spirit of keeping an open mind to people living in different parts of the world.
It might not hurt for you to go to this website and look up black history. http://search.eb.com/blackhistory/

Thanks for sharing the information...
Byron
Ogumo is right about Asians only being 4%

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html

Ethnic groups:
white 77.1%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1.5%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.3%, other 4% (2000)

Also I'm pretty sure Asian means anyone from teh asian continent and not just the Far East Asia, so the actual number of Orientals are less than 4.2% to date.
Doan Du
QUOTE (huaren @ Mar 4 2004, 10:07 AM)
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I have to disagree with this obviously over-generalized stated belief about the intellectual ability of black people. Some of my best friends are black and are both articulate and very intelligent in their pursuits in life. The world is not a perfect place and there will always be stupid people, regardless of what culture they come from or where they live and it will be nature of their ignorance make things worse for everyone else. This won't change and likely never will but blaming an entire culture for a small group's actions is both narrow-minded and reflects poorly upon the spirit of keeping an open mind to people living in different parts of the world.
It might not hurt for you to go to this website and look up black history. http://search.eb.com/blackhistory/

Thanks for sharing the information...

African-Americans excel in the Art and Business Arenas. They have a very solid middle class just like whites. The unfortunate part is they also have a large underclass in many large urban areas which seems unable to break out of perpetual poverty.
huaren
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I'm not sure how this style came to be, but I got one word for it: UGLY!

Ganguro pictures

These are disgusting and they look like hooker to me.

Why the Japanese like US fashion so much?? icon_rolleyes.gif
AtlantisStar
QUOTE (huaren @ Mar 4 2004, 11:53 AM)
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I'm not sure how this style came to be, but I got one word for it: UGLY!

Ganguro pictures

These are disgusting and they look like hooker to me.

Why the Japanese like US fashion so much?? icon_rolleyes.gif

Do people always have to have a reason to like what they like???

Hey look, China is influenced heavily on western culture so i don't think you can ask the same about japan.
huaren
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Do people always have to have a reason to like what they like???

Hey look, China is influenced heavily on western culture so i don't think you can ask the same about japan.

Did I ever said China did not influenced by the western. China did. But not such heavily like you mentioned. I would like like to clear you up, the japanese has been influence heavily. Look at all the female japanese, they dye their hair become gold color just in order to look like western. Think twice before you talk.
kpjoon
QUOTE (huaren @ Feb 28 2004, 07:39 AM)
Black peoples in this world, in America, England or anywhere. What a joke these black peoples. They have no right to make fun of Asian. Why? Look at these black peoples, they are black and stupid. Why I say them stupid? because this is the truth look at what they have. They did not study, they are lazy, unlike Asian, we do business and we can live in a better life because we know how to earn money. Just visit American and you can see almost 99% of black are poor. What a shame of these black peoples.

Usually these black peoples are jealous of what the Asian have.

you seem to be generalizing all black people in general just by seeing the ones on TV... media really does screw everything up doesn't it? icon_rolleyes.gif
Hyena
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Black peoples in this world, in America, England or anywhere. What a joke these black peoples. They have no right to make fun of Asian. Why? Look at these black peoples, they are black and stupid. Why I say them stupid? because this is the truth look at what they have. They did not study, they are lazy, unlike Asian, we do business and we can live in a better life because we know how to earn money. Just visit American and you can see almost 99% of black are poor. What a shame of these black peoples.


did i read that right...

in any case, i would like to nominate that post for the "most bigoted post of the year" award...
azn_pyde_viet


Ugly b!tches. A poor attempt at copying caucasians. haha
GI-RX
how long will they think they are whites? Are they living in fantasy of their own world? They look like those hispanic whore from the whore house
azn_pyde_viet
QUOTE (GI-RX @ Mar 6 2004, 01:52 PM)
how long will they think they are whites? Are they living in fantasy of their own world? They look like those hispanic whore from the whore house

at least we agree on something. lol
Shadowcleric
QUOTE (azn_pyde_viet @ Mar 6 2004, 07:01 AM)


Ugly b!tches. A poor attempt at copying caucasians. haha

I don't know, the one on the right is kind of cute but I did look it up on the internet to get some sort of idea of just that ganguro is and I have to admit there are some pretty scary looking fashion extremes being taken by these ladies.
DaMo
99% of blacks are poor? What a bunch of bull.

QUOTE (azn_pyde_viet @ Mar 6 2004, 06:01 AM)


Ugly b!tches. A poor attempt at copying caucasians. haha

If they were trying to "copy Caucasians", they'd be bleaching white instead of roasting brown.
AtlantisStar
ummmm right...

I still think they look asian. Whatever they're trying to do by "copying" white peeps isn't working.

The onlything that I find really disturbing is just how shiny they are.
gaijinkokujin
this is as dumb as white people darkening their skin and making their lips bigger with collegen, while blacks get lip reductions, lypo and colored contacts
charlie3223
or maybe an attempt at individuality through conformity?
erer1
QUOTE (SakuraSkater @ Feb 27 2004, 06:18 AM)
hmm.. haha there are more asians in america than there are blacks i believe. i don't know where all this racism is coming from.. but it's definately overboard. first off... every race in america hangs out with other races. why? because most of us could really care less about race. but there are idiots who try to make it a big deal.. then problems are started. i mean seriously... and stop taking everything so damn personal.


"he did this to me because i'm yellow!"

"he did this to me because i'm black!"

"he did this to me because i'm white!"

geez... it's getting old now, people.

by the way how can you be african-american, chinese-american, japanese-american etc? you're either american or not. you don't call a chinese person living in japan a "chinese-japanese". hmm saying mexican-american (or any of those *****-american names) is a real sneaky way to segrogate people politely.

if people had no knowledge of what "race" is... racism wouldn't exist because no one would care about something that didn't exist. but we are taught that we are "different" from each other. and we are taught to be "proud" of our color or nationality. well.. that's really fine and all..cept for one thing... IT'S TEACHING US HOW TO BE "RACIST"


ogumo is a perfect example. you guys aren't blind so you know what he's about. haha you know all about his "anti american" attitude.. err... actually not all americans .. just ones that happen to have white skin. sounds kind of racist to me.


but anyways... those girls are only cute for the simple fact..... they're cute girls lol... that whole trend is awful..

i think theres like 15 percent black ppopulation and 5 percent asian population. what i don't understand is blacks play a big role in america, but the asian is like non existing.
PervertBurger
who cares
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