If it weren't for the Pearl Harbor event, the crappy movie of the same name would have never came out.

Interesting... I guess Yamamoto is considered a Japanese hero then heh?

Tell me you are joking with that statement? Do not be offended. If this was any other forum besides asiafinest I would have asked.

i think the mistake is wrong calculation on time .because if japanese army bombed pearl harbour a little bit late when the atlantic ship(i think) and the another ship came back from patrol , i am sure america will not have any big ship left and america could not nuke hiroshima and nagasaki. i don't know is that right or not but i ever hear that.

And to this day, historians still wonder why the Japanese never used machine guns in WWII.

strategic mistake = a mistake which affects the entire war. Japan accidently brought USA into the war, and eventually lost
tactical = speaking of the specific battle. Japan did a great job at Pearl Harbor

i never said the japanese didn't have the technology from beginning of WW2, I sad their weapon technology weren't advanced or surpassed to German weapon, or the British, Americans, Soviets

korean slaves? what? Don't ever call us slaves, I don't care if its even referring to the past and i will tell you why. First of all, we were not an inferior culture, we were 'enslaved' because of our close proximity and the contribution of value which was literally the disemmination of OUR culture and our hard-earned achievements, mind you! because evidently you couldn't or lacked the imagination to start from scratch. This is a totally different situation than the classic scenario of slaves where they have no inherent or bring no inherent value besides their physical self and are used to proliferate another's sole ideas. The relation of koreans being 'slaves' of japan is a complex one and is a bit embarassing for japan as well if we look deeply into the what's and not's.

This is like American Negroids who sue history textbooks for calling them slaves.

Originally brought to the United States as a form of cheap labor during the Civil War, Chinese men entered at the bottom rung of the social and economic ladder. Chinese laborers were viewed as cheap, expendable, slave labor - intended to serve as an alternative to African American slaves, which Maxine Hong Kingston addresses in her novel, Chinamen.  The images of lowly Chinese that prevailed during the mid- 1850s were used as justification for the low status Chinese in the American racial hierarchy.  As different Asian groups immigrated into the United States, this subordination was extended to include all Asians.

As Chinese scholars disclosed, during Japan's invasion of China, countless Chinese people were forced to become laborers. They were subjected to Japan's inhuman enslavement, innumerable workers were tortured to death. The survivors were also covered with scars. Reference materials discovered last year in Qingdao Archive office concerning Japanese troops' transport of laborers from Qingdao to northeast China and Japan during of the war of resistance show that from 1939 to the first half of 1944, Japanese troops transferred 740,000 laborers from Qingdao.

Japanese emigrating to the US have traditionally encountered discrimination. As the Congressional act of 1790 demonstrates, immigrants of Asian heritage were not even allowed American citizenship. Some of the first Japanese immigrants to the US faced tremendous economic hardships. In the early 1850s, Japan was experiencing a depression, forcing many Japanese to emigrate to the United States. Most arrived with little financial support, and often had to settle for grueling, backbreaking work in farming, building railways, factories, canneries, or nurseries.
Being new to the US and speaking little or no English, these workers were often exploited, made to work for less money, and in conditions unacceptable to most Americans.

Civil War in the United States begins, eventually ending the institution of slave labor. Americans search for new sources of cheap labor. Japanese laborers are illegally shipped to Hawaii.

This is like American Negroids who sue history textbooks for calling them slaves.

African-Americans, the most familiar friend Japan had

We African-Americans, pay our greatest respect to the Japanese.

"Twelve million African-Americans in the States are watching the course of the meeting."

During the Paris Peace Conference of 1919, African-Americans kept their eyes on the Japanese who participated and who suggested the idea of the "racial equality" at the meeting. When the Japanese Mission Plenipotentiary stopped in New York on their way to Paris, four African-American leaders bypassed President Wilson and directly told the Mission to try hard to abolish racial discrimination all over the world. African-Americans who suffered from racial discrimination saw the Japanese as leading bearers because they were admitted into the World Power in spite of their color. At the meeting, the Japanese suggestion won the approval of 11 out of 16 countries. However, President Wilson, the chairperson, rejected this result saying, "This is not unanimous." This statement led to riots throughout the country where more than a hundred people were killed and several thousands injured.

Brown men continue beating Caucasians.

It was during the Russo-Japanese War that African-Americans put their hope in the Japanese. They thought that a small colored country was challenging a bold fight against a big Caucasian country. If Japan won, the day would come when they would cry, "Asia only for Asian people." African-American leaders thought that this foresees well for the future of Africa, their Mother Country. The Russo-Japanese War challenged a myth made by Europeans saying, "Colored people will never win over the Caucasians."

A sense of solidarity and understanding of sympathy between African-Americans and Japanese immigrants.

African-Americans warmly accepted Japanese immigrants who came to the U.S. in the 1920's. The Philadelphia Tribune expressed the following: African-Americans respect Japanese people from the bottom of our hearts. Although they are an oppressed race like us, we should follow their behavior to make great efforts to achieve the goals. In Oakland, California, Japanese often put advertisement in newspapers published by African-Americans. Likewise, Japanese newspapers ran articles that criticized racial discrimination targeted against African-Americans. Also, a Japanese hospital hired two African-American doctors, so the California Eagle expressed, "It is a great thing that a Japanese hospital opened the door to other races. "The image of Japanese as equal to African-American spread rapidly in the West Coast through the media." The words, "a sense of solidarity and understanding of sympathy" were often used to describe the relationship between the two.

Save Japanese

One African-American who heard about the news of the Great Kanto Earthquake in 1923 wrote to the Chicago Defender, "Colored people in America, that is to say we, African-Americans, indeed can save the Japanese, the same colored people as us. "Soon the paper began a campaign to save the Japanese. "Surely we are poor. However, if we do not donate now, when on the earth will we donate." The eager message in the paper penetrated into the African-American community and they donated a large amount of money to Japan.

Japanese countenance to Ethiopia

Against the aggression to Ethiopia by Italy, African-Americans tried to help this one and only independent country in Africa as a fortress. Compare with the negative attitude of the United States, Japanese appeals for Ethiopian support, which had more appeals than the United Nations, moved African-Americans. And above of all, what moved African-Americans was a plan for the marriage between the Ethiopian crown prince and a lady of the Japanese imperial family. Although this could not be brought into fruition, this is an evidence that Japan was interested in making an alliance with Ethiopia.

Unforgettable experience in Japan

In 1936, W. E. B. Du Bois, a leader in the African-American community, wrote a column about his two weeks stay in Japan to the Pittsburgh Clear entitled, "Unforgettable Experience." When he was checking out one of the hotels in Tokyo, a typical American white lady wedged in front of him. A receptionist lady ignored the American lady and kept attending to him. After he finished his check, the receptionist made a deep bow to Du Bois, then she began to attend to the American lady. Her resolute attitude foresaw the opening of a New World.

There is no reason to fight with the Japanese.

About the Japan-US War, Du Bois said, "If America admitted Japanese rights, the war would not have broken out." African-American soldiers who experienced racial discrimination in the military could not find a reason why they should fight against the Japanese, the same colored people as them, for Caucasians.

Do we pass off the Japanese camps?

During the war, Japanese immigrants who had American civil rights were interned in camps. African-Americans were shocked deeply. First, the fact that only Japanese Americans were interned in camps, not German Americans or Italian Americans, was clearly an example of racial prejudice. Second, African-Americans could have been interned in camps because it happened to the Japanese Americans who also had the same American civil rights as them.

Do we, African-Americans, pass off that a hundred fifteen thousand Japanese Americans were deprived of their freedom as Americans at one time?

One columnist of the Los Angeles Tribune called the All African-American Improvement Committee, so the chairperson of the committee submitted the following, "We must stand against having our rights as Americans because of our races and colors of skin being invaded." After the war, African-American society warmly welcomed the Japanese who came back from the camps. They helped their fellow Americans look for jobs and invited Japanese Americans to their churches.

The most familiar friend whom Japan had in history

Dr. Reginald Carney, a scholar of African-American studies, wrote: "The most familiar friend whom Japan had in history was the African-American. At one time, the Japanese were respected by African-Americans and considered as the same colored people. I am eager for the Japanese to take back such thoughts of reverence and endearment once more."

Are japanese taught that japan was once korea's slave state? Of course not! very telling perspective.

Truly and honestly tell me, japanese children are taught that japanese were once slaves? I find that hard to believe considering the government is so keen on whitewashing it's historybooks.

IN A FORMAL PERSUASION, MAKE A POINT THEN PROVE IT WITH AT LEAST 3 SOLID FACTUAL EVIDENCES. THIS IS GETTING REALLY DUMB, I KNOW PLENTY OF JAPANESE PEOPLE, INCLUDING ME, WHO WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HELL YOUR COMING FROM.

Because I will not search for information that I do not believe exists.

IN A FORMAL PERSUASION, MAKE A POINT THEN PROVE IT WITH AT LEAST 3 SOLID FACTUAL EVIDENCES. THIS IS GETTING REALLY DUMB, I KNOW PLENTY OF JAPANESE PEOPLE, INCLUDING ME, WHO WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HELL YOUR COMING FROM.

korean imperialists? lol

Exactly

You know, I'm really fed up with japanese imperialistic attitudes. Translation= How dare you even imply we were slaves, that is beneath us not like others. Taken from a different perspective your history is quite pathetic actually. Your hyped up dreams of origin for starters amounts to a roadside attraction and your unwillingness to even acknowledge your connection to the mainland is only on a superficial level, demeaning, or dishonest. Your ego is so fragile and so western influenced you do everything to overshadow your neighbors while placating western adoration. How you politically identify yourself is through western perspective and thats an advantage japan has used shamelessly.

No, i am far from being slow. Perhaps you are because titles are just, which does not prevent anyone from an imperialistic attitude. America is supposed to be about equality where all men are created equal, does everyone live and operate by that creed. Give me a break, the point is moot.

you don't understand my simple point. seeing the once conquered still as so even though there is no actual possession is more reminescent of an imperialistic attitude than just a nationalistic one.

shut up.

you are slow also, aren't you? you still haven't proven your arguements, and all you do is flaming other guy. This thread was way over, when toonluv and you started argueing.