if so please show..

yeah..my friend..

What is Cham?

Why is this doing in the Vietnamese chat ?

I haven't even seen a Cham girl in my life, leave aside she's pretty or not

You must not know your history..

Burger, you still haven't told me what a Cham is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cham_people

Chams dont look at all different from indigenous South-East Asian people.

So basically it's just people from South Vietnam?
You gave me links but I have a bad connection. It took long to get to it.

Yeah they originate from that region..they arent Vietnamese though..they are of Malay descent.

they are an ethnic minority group in vietnam
maybe one of the natives on vietnam i tihnk

There are lots of cute Cham girls in the States. BTW ethnic Chams are not Vietnamese.

Im surprised that many Vietnamese dunno who the Chams are. Because:

- If you are a southerner, you may have cham blood
- Che Linh, a famous singer is cham ethnic
- Many my friends are of cham origin and even carry cham surname, Tra` although they refer themself as Kinh

can somebody post pix of them? im very interested

Some cham girls from Ninh Thuan province:

Some Cham Pictures:
http://vietnam.vnagency.com.vn/VNP-Website...er=10&year=2004

http://www.terragalleria.com/scripts/dbsea...&t=allp1&q=Cham

http://www.ninhthuanpt.com.vn/ChuyenMuc/GocAnh/GA022.htm

I think she's cute. Big eyes, shape of the face... she looks very Malay as it is, even with the different way of wearing the headscarf.

.................don't know what to say... u just have some werid taste

^^Dude, you won''t even wanna know what the rest of my taste is like.......

I'll show you as soon as I kind find one.

Many Vietnamese heard about Cham, but they have never met Cham face-to-face. I lived in a district that is close to the Cham’s Towers in province Binh Dinh, but I didn’t see any of them in the area either. I only saw their pictures on the Internet. Cham live in the central Vietnam’s provinces Ninh Thuan, Binh Thuan, and Khanh Hoa.

Oh yes, I've met one Cham. Che Linh! He went to the house across the street from me. His old buddy lives there. My dad came over and drank a couple Hienekens and sang Karaoke with him. 2

OMG pics posted are ....hideous..sorry lol

So Vietnamese don't remember important ethnics in the lists of ethnic minorities?
I think Trà is Chinese 茶 meaning 'tea'. Perhaps they were forced to adopt that/to change surname.

Any picture of Che Linh?

nope, do u kno 1 of Cham kings was Trà Toàn (15th century)?

Chế Linh pic:

Uhh. Che Linh is little pink square? Are you tricking me?
By the way Trà Toàn does not seem Malayic name. Perhaps Vietnamese gave him name who knows? (perhaps like how Ancient Chinese gave to Hun kings)
Oh, do you have source of Cham king names?

here is Che Linh.

Actually Trà Toàn is Po Kaprah, that is the way Vietnamese transcipted Cham names using Chinese characters. WTF is "Malayic name"?

So my past assumption was true.

Any list of Cham kings? (and names Vietnamese gave them?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champa

I was fortunate enough to stumble upon this list of Cham Kings, from 192 to our final fall in 1832.

*Bold indicates Cham Rulers
*Underline indicates Chinese Rulers (when under Chinese rule)

The Dynasties of Champa
Dynasty I

192- ??? : Sri Mara
circa 270 : Fan Hiong
284-336 : Fan Yi


Dynasty II

336-349 : Fan Wen
349- ??? : Fan Fo
circa 377 : Bhadravarman I
??? - ??? : Gangaraja
??? -??? : Manorathavarman
circa 420 : Wen Ti


Dynasty III

circa 420 : Fan
circa 510 : Devavarman
circa 526/9 : Vijayavarman


Dynasty IV

circa 529 : Rudravarman I
circa 605 : Sambuvarman
circa 629 : Kanharpadharma
??? - 645 : Bhasadharma
645 - ??? : Bhadresvaravarman
653 - ??? :Vikrantavarman I
685 - 730 :Vikrantavarman II
circa 749/58 : Rudravarman II


Dynasty of Panduranga

circa 757 : Prithivîndravarman
circa 774 : Satyavarman
circa 793 : Indravarman
circa 801 : Harivarman
circa 820-860 : Vikrantavarman III


Dynasty of Bhrigu

circa 877 : Indravarman II
circa 896-905 : Jayasimhavarman
905-910 : Bhadravarman II
911-vers 971 : Indravarman III
989- ? : Vijaya Shrî Harivarman II
circa 989 : Yanpuku Vijaya Shrî


Dynasty of the South (Kauthara-Panduranga)

1041-1059 : Jayasimhavarman II
1059-1060 ? : Bhadravarman III
circa 1060 : Rudravarman
circa 1081 : Jaya Indravarman IV
? -1086 : Paramabodhisattva
1086-1139 : Jaya Indravarman V
1139-1147 : Jaya Indravarman VI
1147-1163 : Jaya Harivarman VI
1163- ? : Jaya Indravarman VII
? - 1190 : Jaya Indravarman VIII
1226- ? : Jaya Parameshvaravarman IV
? - 1237 : Jaya Indravarman X
1266- ? : Indravarman IX
? - 1307 : Jayasimhavarman IV
1307- ? : Mahendravarman
1342-1360 : Bo-dê
1360-1390 : Che Bong-nga
1441-1446 : Bichai
1627 – 1651 Po Rome
1660 – 1692 Po Saut


Dynasty of Po Saktiraidaputih
vassal Cham rulers under the Nguyen Lords

1695 - 1728 Po Saktiraidaputih
1728 - 1730 Po Ganvuhdaputih
1731 - 1732 Po Thuttirai
1732 - 1735 vacant
1735 - 1763 Po Rattirai
1763 - 1765 Po Tathundamohrai
1765 - 1780 Po Tithuntiraidapaguh
1780 - 1781 Po Tithuntiraidaparang
1781 - 1783 vacant
1783 - 1786 Chei Krei Brei
1786 - 1793 Po Tithundaparang
1793 - 1799 Po Lathundapaguh
1799 - 1822 Po Chong Chan

clearly this is a racist comment.......

we all know that 10%-5% of every race is hot..