The big cultural differences:

Japanese do in fact still practice the dualist cult(s) of Shintoism, i.e., they are, apart from Christianised East Asians, the only people in the Far Eastern Pacific coastal region believing in the definitely Western superstition of 'good and evil'. For them women are kind of 'unholy' because of menstrual blood etc. The way those superstions took to Japan is as exotic as the Japanese themselves in East Asia: it's probably the sable route, the Siberian example for a way of one-sided 'cultural exchanges'.

Historically, the strange superstitions of the Japanese led to an extremely excessive gender separation and misogyny. Thus, there is also a traditional gay culture in Japan which even exceeds obscenety of many other tradtionally gay cultures, e.g., Korean, arctic, Pacific Amerindian, Austronesian.

Japanese warlikeness is an equally strange and undesirable historical development: possibly several undesirable factors (cultural influences from very different peoples) were combined in Japanese unculture: Austro-Polynesian and Palaeosiberian cultures are surely the primary roots what modern Japanese call 'culture'. However, on their own Palaeosiberians and Austro-Polynesians are just create cultures which emphasise cruelty and ridiculous, harmless superstitions. To become pseudo-civilised the Japanese needed more genetic influence from the continent: of course, Zhongguoren did not succeed in civilising the large part of Japan, but at least the Okayama region, where there are still racially predominately continentals from the Asian coastal types, is an example for a relative cultural progress in Japan. In fact, it was rather some small groups of half-civilised Tungus or Yukaghir-type people who contributed quite a lot to the 'civilising' process of the Japanese, which made Japanese culture warlike by the same time. Another source for Japanese aggressiveness could be searched in the mentality of the northeastern Japanese, who are a bit different from the well-known southern Japanese pirates-slaves and Satsuma samurais. Racially, the northeastern Japanese seem to resemble the Daghur/Daur tribals of Dongbei, a group of Palaeosiberian barbarians, who could have absorbed certain elements of proto-Sino-Tibetans in a prehistoric time. Peoples mixed at such a culturally early stage do never do well in creating own cultures. The brutality of and violence glorified in Daghur fairy-tales gives an insight to what the Japanese could not preserve from their original cultures since they were culturally unified.

Nonetheless, one sign of primitivity was replaced by another sign of primitivity: indeed, the Japanese have a kind of indigenous shamanism. Apart from the original multiethnicity of ancient Japanese, they managed to continue both matrifocal and misogynist cultures within an insane syncretism. In early times of their recorded history there were even shamanesses who ruled the country although the Japanese men were influenced by misogynist mythology at the same time. Furthermore, even today the passivity of Japanese men at home is remarkable, too: he really behaves "like a guest" at home. Such examples of schizophrenic culture show clearly that the Japanese never negotiated the stage of a prehistoric cultural blending. Yes, they do still live within the chaos of an ancient mongrel culture.

Well, I tend to say the Japanese don't have any culture, but only something like an un-culture or a proto-culture.

True. And the Japanese are even proud of being submissive and one-dimensional.

If so, the Japanese could not have copied from the Koreans who depended on copying themselves. The Korean would not have invaded Japan. So the Japanese could not claim to be decendance of the Yamato people.

The Japanese would not have bronze, either. Possibly, they would not have even invaded Japan and stayed in southern Korea. Together with the Korean they would have continued practices like totem pole cults and other things typical for native Americans.

http://tour.dongjak.seoul.kr/english/s_history/sub_04.asp
http://english.daegu.go.kr/group02/chingusai/200303.htm

They would have remained in stone age, including customs like head and scalp hunting, practiced brutal initiation rituals, maybe also adopted Austronesian customs, such as head deformation:


Sooner or later, the Koreans or others (maybe even the Ainus) would have arrived with more advanced technology and assimilated proto-Japanese before they could have become Japanese as such.

Without Sinitic influence the Koreans and Japanese would have remained in a pre-civilised state, like the Wa people in southern China who still practiced headhunting during the last centuries. The specifical traits of the Koreans without sinification can only reconstructed since their country is practically sinisised. Headhunting is historically recorded, as for the Japanese samurais, too

Who cares? He's just a Japanese. His cultural 'function' could be defined as being similar to that of a vulture.

Japanese: koreanised (or didn't ever have any own tradition!)

The JApanese themselves originally inhabited the Korean peninsula where near by no trace at all can be found of them because they were weaker than Koreans.

No culture?

Now I am greatly offended by that. 

who the hell is this CNA guy? a chinese guy who has problem with japanese and korean?

Damo, why don't you label the poster's name(s)?

Otherwise, you're dragging EVERYONE in CNA down with this guy.

However, there are some members who are somewhat "inappropriate" and therefore giving CNA a bad name.

It's not a coincident that both Koreans and Africans, being ex-slaves in their respective area, like to make up those kinds of nonsense. This behavior is a compensatory mechanism of psychology common to people with such background to save self-esteem from their miserable existence, past and present, that they are so embarrassed of.

Both of them have little in their  old history that the rest of the world could recognize any worth in. So they have to claim that the great world-famous tradition of other nations such as Samurai actually has origin in their culture, and thereby indirectly infer that they also have great rich tradition. You might remember that Koreans also claim that Samurai originally came from Korea, called Musa.

Another prime example is ancient civilization. Koreans like to brag that they had the world's oldest civilization called Tangun some 5,000 years ago. Some African American nationalists also claim that Egyptian civilization was actually founded by black people. Neither claim is taken seriously but among those delusional urinara manse Koreans and radical African nationalists themselves.

Another example. Black muslims claim that human beings were originally all black men, and only later did white men branch off from them. Koreans also like to insist that the origin of the Japanese people is Korean.

A pathetic yet somewhat sad phenomenon.

DaMo,
I found this interesting bit regarding the african-american claim to japan, evidently this particular japanese felt they needed to throw korea in as well.  What do you think?

What is this view of  koreans being slaves?  I've read this or hinted by japanese numerous times.

  I don't care what anyone says they are a lot uglier to koreans than vice versa.

the samurai might the rest no.

you don't understand what i mean?

their culture is a complete synthesis almost artifically in my opinion of korea and china.  everything they have has been borrowed from someplace else, even their warrior traditions as they were heavily influenced by their neighbors.  Everything they have accomplished has been an excellent copy yet they believe they are superior.

Ogumo: It's obvious that you have your own personal feelings toward CNA. No matter how little or many members it has that is racist, not all of us are. I am a member of CNA, would you say I am racist?

I really don't care because what i've come across said against korea is downright sickening and blasphemous by japanese using an evil hint of japan's colonization. I've seen this over and over again in one form or another and this is the 21st century and this is not an older generation either.

Everything they have accomplished has been an excellent copy yet they believe they are superior

What the hell are you talking about? Reading your post 3 different times brought up 3 different points. Do you know know proper sentence structure? Next time use point form to get your message across.

btw. you disgust me with your anti-Japanese rhetoric.

We are not the warmongering Imperial power of old. I'd say 90% of the populace wholeheartedly support Japan's pacifist constitution and regard our East Asian neighbours as friends. At least the people withing my sphere of knowledge do. This includes my grandmother who was around in WWII. Why the hell do you keep dragging my generation into the wrongs of history? SK is a beautiful place, I've been to Seoul a couple of times and it is certainly a place to cerish. But you are doing a disservice to your countrymen by saying such ignorant things.

These Japanese, look at them. And look at Japan. They are now trying to build up their militiary. lol, what a joke. I know, and i know that they want WW2 to repeat. These evil human deserve the atom bomb in WW2. And if the history really repeat, i always wanted to see one nuke or any type of powerful weapon from the center land. I am not worrying because i know we're strong enaught today. And we will never scare your japanese imperial anymore.

Please keep the flame wars to yourself people.. I would hate to issue warnings..

Without doubt the Japanese would have remained culturally inferior to most native Americans if they hadn't been within the sphere of Chinese civilation/the Dongyi cultures.

I don't understand where he gets all that trash from.

frontier_relic is an intelligent individual.

frontier_relic is an intelligent individual.

frontier_relic is an intelligent individual.

Damo,

I don't think it is fair for you to choose fronteir relic as a representative for Chinese Nationalism in general.

Fronteir relic is NOT a Chinese Nationalist. His parents are not even from China, and he spent his entire life in Europe. He actually does not have that much real practical knowledge of China. He seems to be someone who has caged himself up in his room for the entirety of his life and has develoepd these very strange, though very detailed, pseudo scientific theories about every race and sub-race in the world. He even makes up his own races or constantly refers to extinct or archaic ethnic groups. I don't think anybody takes him seriously. It is unfair to mar the name of the Chinese people with his comments. He certainly doesn't represent Chinese people or any group of people period, besides himself. Perhaps his family, though god forbid that.

I am also sure he is an avid drug abuser. How else would he be able to concoct such ridiculous philosophies?

Damo,

I don't think it is fair for you to choose fronteir relic as a representative for Chinese Nationalism in general.

Fronteir relic is NOT a Chinese Nationalist. His parents are not even from China, and he spent his entire life in Europe. He actually does not have that much real practical knowledge of China. He seems to be someone who has caged himself up in his room for the entirety of his life and has develoepd these very strange, though very detailed, pseudo scientific theories about every race and sub-race in the world. He even makes up his own races or constantly refers to extinct or archaic ethnic groups. I don't think anybody takes him seriously. It is unfair to mar the name of the Chinese people with his comments. He certainly doesn't represent Chinese people or any group of people period, besides himself. Perhaps his family, though god forbid that.

I am also sure he is an avid drug abuser. How else would he be able to concoct such ridiculous philosophies?

DaMo, I can't really speak for the others but I personally don't challenge him because I simply don't care.

I am not Japanese nor a Chinese racist so when I see offensive threads toward Japanese on CNA, I simply ignore it. I don't believe it's the members' job to challenge issues that we find injust or unfair. That's why we have moderators.

Well, the moderators aren't doing squat either.

And I don't see why lies should not be challenged, regardless of who they are about.

Then blame the moderator(s) or CNA, not the whole forum.

Like I said, it's not the members' responsibility to "challenge" others.  We do it because we care and/or we want to.  Just because we choose not to waste our time with issues we could care less about, it doesn't mean we support it.

Precisely the problem; you don't care enough. It's not a one-time thing. He has done this again and again, and not a peep from anyone, so I find it hard to believe that anyone disagrees with him. Those CNA members who ignore frontier relic's insults against other nations should ignore everything he says, or they must not have a problem with what he says. Not only has no one stood up to him, but even when I challenged him over his insults many a time, no one has supported me. Why should the mods say anything when virtually none of the members give a hoot?

What makes you think an individual has the right to tell another person what he or she should care about?

When a Caucasian-American doesn't publicly speak out against racist groups such as the KKK, does that mean he supports their views?

I'm not telling anyone what to care about. I'm pointing out that no one cares about it. Mind you, CNA isn't a gigantic forum where something can go unnoticed.

If, on a forum for white people, someone who regularly participates in the forum keeps making comments that Chinese are uncivilized Neanderthals, and none of the white people challenges them, not even once, but they otherwise carry on normal conversations with him, I would say that the forum members agree with him that the Chinese are uncivilized Neanderthals.

By your logic, ALL of us should be responding to EVERY single thread on this forum and express whether we agree or disagree with something, otherwise we are to be assumed to agree...

No, by my logic, if someone comes to AF and posts crap about Lithuanians several dozens of times in non-obscure threads, and all the AF members interact with him normally but not a single person says anything EVEN ONCE about any of his numerous anti-Lithuanian posts, I can only presume that AF is anti-Lithuanian. Fortunately, this is not so.

OMG...

Maybe it's just because no one here cares about Lithuanians?

Or more accurately, no one has a problem with people who hate and insult Lithuanians. Because that's what such inaction, despite the offenses being in full view of all forum members and despite having many opportunities to say something, suggests.

Kulong, while browsing CNA last week, I happened to notice topics based on credited extracts from AF. Well?

Huh?