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nanyang
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news.php?id=149097

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 8 (Bernama) -- The Malays should be given an effective business and motivational programmes by the government especially to change their mindset so that they would succeed in their business undertakings, said a famous international motivational expert, Billi Lim.

The writer of the book "Dare To Fail" said, the New Economic Policy (NEP) was just 30 years old while the Chinese, noted for being very successful in business, had hundreds of years of history in business.

The main secret for the Malays to change was their mindset, he said referring to the Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak's recent speech which also touched on the Malays' mindset.

"If you notice, there are difference between the Chinese abroad and those Chinese in China.

"China become an economic power due to the investment by the Chinese abroad," he told Bernama here Monday.

He did not deny that a policy such as the NEP was needed but the government should have an efficient programme to change the Malay mindset.

"If the government does not have an effective programme to change the Malay mindset, it is difficult for NEP to be a success," said Lim.

He was confident the Malay mindset could be changed based on his experience giving motivational courses to 100 organisations worldwide since 20 years ago and he himself had also failed in business many times before.

"The Indonesians are also Malays but are different compared to here. We know that the Chinese minority dominated the Indonesian economy. The Indonesian Malays have a strong will power but unfortunately they have no aid such as those offered by the Malaysian government to the Bumiputeras," he said.

"We are too comfortable here (in Malaysia). Why do we need two million foreign workers even though we have a work force of 22 million, we are not Australia," he added.
Nung1
I'm keeping this open, but address the issue at hand.

Any flaming by any1 will result in warnings, and the closing of this topic. There will be no exceptions
yana19384
i think this is true..ive always seen malays who have just started a bussiness about a month back and the next thing i see them riding their brand new mercedes benz sure.gif

they were too confident and they felt too secured..i dunno how they got the idea..but im sure you guys have experianced this too before..

i think it is indeed important to change malay's mindset..how?..i dunno..

u cant force feed a baby if they dont wanna swallow..if u know what i mean..

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(before u guys think that im being racist..im malay by the way embarassedlaugh.gif
Bringer_Of_Death
I dunno, this has being going on for sometime.
But somehow I don't think they're changing their minds at all.
It gives the impression that these babies are overfed and pampered to their whims.
I wonder if they could ever stand on their own feet and face the world like a real human being.
yana19384
thats y we need to at least try to educate them better..we have people who are very insightful and who see things in a fairly different view from those who are much more close minded..so i think these people need to think better and try to change the whole scene..they need to do something..anything..by reading good books..by going for councilling stuff..anything at all..but they must be concsious of whats happening icon_wink.gif
Bringer_Of_Death
True most of the malay population are made up of people from the rural areas.
Although I have doubts of those highly educated ones in urban areas know this but just take things for granted.
Well about educating them, who's going to do it?
The government?
Unlikely.
UMNO Youth.
Not so.

They will keep things as they are blinding the people of Malaysia by telling lies and stories.
Unless someone or a group of Malaysians can make a stand.
Then we shall see change.
yana19384
i dont think they need to be told to be a better person..it has to come from within...

they dont need to be told to eat when they are hungry..to use their mouth to eat
they dont need to be told to breathe with their nose
they dont need to be told to think when they have their brains..

i think this all kind of come back to basic when we want to talk about a person as a whole..as a person who wants to make big things real..and as a person who wants to keep getting better and those who want to be a better person inside and outside..

i know lecturing is of no use..but somehow education (in any ways) must be continued..people (of any age..of any profession) must always know how important it is to read and keep getting better..

i take a doctor for example..a good physician will keep on reading..educating himself in his speciality to become a better doctor than he already is..he doesnt have to be perfect..but he keeps getting better so he wont fall down hard on his knees..

--------------reading books that gives u moral support and spiritual support is good..i think everybody should read 'dare to fail'----------------
Bringer_Of_Death
Reading...
I've ventured into that area.
Get new ideas and great insights.
Lots of new things to discover.
And alot of help especially those self-improvement books.
But how many Malaysians do read?

Some claim that they have no time.
Some claim that books are boring.
Some claim that there's nothing to learn. (The arrogant lot :P)


Most of the books are written in English but majority of the population are afraid to touch that language. It is how it was 5 years ago but I wonder how things are now?
Iron Malayan
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Change Malay Mindset, Says Lim

If we change our mindset, who's gonna create all the wonderful technologies for Malaysia ?

I don't know what the hell that Billi Lim thinks he is.

If I was born a chinese I would know my damn place instead of patronizing the very ppl who look upon my kind in disdain.

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"China become an economic power due to the investment by the Chinese abroad," he told Bernama here Monday
In case anyone still hasn't noticed, China is a poor country and their products are
notorious for low quality.Billi Lim should stop embarassing his own country by acting like they are something special.

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"The Indonesians are also Malays but are different compared to here. We know that the Chinese minority dominated the Indonesian economy.
I said it before and i'll say it again. Indonesia is only 15% Malay;the remainder being aborigines. Thats why Indonesia is as poor as China

and if the chinese really "dominate" Indonesian economy how come they still got pwned by rioters !!
nanyang
And yeah China is a poor county and cant compete with MALAYSIA. LOLOLOL! Malaysia BOLEH!!

And yeah Chinese didnt dominate Indonesia economy, is the Malay who dominate 70% of the economy! LOLOLOL

And yeah when a country who have Chinese more are very underdevelop and very poor! LOLOLOL

And yeah in Malaysia is Malay who dominate the economy as well, and the Malay didnt receive help from the goverment, they score A results and Chinese cant compete with them. Oh my, Chinese are so stupid! LOLOLOL

Well well, ill save my breath, the fact is the fact. You cant change it no matter what you do.
the model racist nation
The foul play of meritocracy system only can fool the people in a confined environment but not in today's competitive globalization market place. The "blind" attitude has to be changed.

If you are not really selecting the best from the people, then your team can always remain the most as a mediocre one. The so called "among the blind nation, the one eyed man is the king" applies.

You just do not have the competitive edge in the global market. Meanwhile the good woods are flowing out of the country and let our competitors to use them against our advantage.

That explains why 80000 graduates are unemployed. Degree is simply a product of a rubber stamp work. When you do not have the materials, whatever name you have equates to zero.

It is a joke when the graduates are sent back for retraining of how to use a computer, how to speak English, how to learn good manners for interview. When could these people wake up!

The IT graduates are mediocre in their computer works; most of the government websites are poorly maintained such that PM Badawi at one time was so angry about it. The banking system; just a few months ago in the paper, a small branch manager of a bank in Masjid Tanah Melaka could siphon out RM16 millions from the depositors over a couple of year. The bank only knew that when a depositor could not withdraw his own money.

What a system and what a joke! That is the type of our accountants trained under default meritocracy system. There are countless similar examples.

If we still do not wake up and continue to waste our time and energy in this kind of unproductive prejudice i.e. default meritocracy system, we will be thrown out far behind others.

As time goes on, the difference will be exponential as we can see today we can't afford even to hire our own experts back if we want to.
malaccan
Thank you for your input. icon_smile.gif
Iron Malayan
Why is the unemployment rate among Malaysian graduates so low ?

Explain that
JenX
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Sep 13 2005, 01:47 AM) *
Why is the unemployment rate among Malaysian graduates so low ?

Explain that


are u kidding? mostly unemployed graduates are Malays .... sure.gif
Iron Malayan
QUOTE (JenX @ Apr 10 2006, 01:37 PM) *
are u kidding?

Nope.
BloodyDumbfuckm
QUOTE(Iron Malayan @ Aug 24 2005, 03:21 AM) [snapback]982751[/snapback]

If we change our mindset, who's gonna create all the wonderful technologies for Malaysia ?

I don't know what the hell that Billi Lim thinks he is.

If I was born a chinese I would know my damn place instead of patronizing the very ppl who look upon my kind in disdain.

In case anyone still hasn't noticed, China is a poor country and their products are
notorious for low quality.Billi Lim should stop embarassing his own country by acting like they are something special.

I said it before and i'll say it again. Indonesia is only 15% Malay;the remainder being aborigines. Thats why Indonesia is as poor as China

and if the chinese really "dominate" Indonesian economy how come they still got pwned by rioters !!




wonderful technologies? i tot ur kind not has the midas touch of gold but touch of ruins. practically everythg u touch turn to dust. if u chg ur mindset, wht u can achieve is much much more than today level. don u want to chg for sthg tht is capable of sthg greater? or u js settle for wht u feel comfortable or u think thts is good enuf; complacency.

at least billie lim is more daring/succesfful than u if u read abit abt his biography and stop being sarcastic abt him, show some respect. he wrote a book (crap or not) and a good seller, hv u written a book before? and dont gimme a stupid excuse on tis if u havent). and even Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak's touched on the Malays' mindset , so if u question anythg abt it, do u think who shld i believe. u or the najib? or u meaning to say ur smarter than najib?

If u were born a chinese? but ur not. and u cant nvr speak of how u will think becus ur not. bear in mind, its not only the chinese that look down on ur kind even some ur own kind did, ive met some unbiased malays taxi drivers i struck conversations did u know these malay taxi drivers wish for, well, they wasnt as harsh as u to wish the nonbumis just to return to their damn places, rather they wish the malays youngs who like entertainment all the time to buck up like the hardworking chinese youngs and a balance economy, and a better govt. see, even taxi drivers r better than some godammed politician who js cant ctrl his emotion n burst up the damned nonbumis to return to their ground. FU-K
not to mention the spore malays and the borneon malays share the same sentiments abt the peninsular malays but sry i don hv facts so tis is refutable cus hearsay. i may mix wit the wrong bunch. im a sbhan i know more than u in sbh. also, why defend so ferociously if u think it is all lies. if it is not the truth, u wldnt mind. but u mind, do u. tis its already too pervasive an issue for u to def in naught anyway. besides it is ignorant to always harp on the origin of other races. "damn place?" to put it bluntly, if u tracj back to history, prolly the tanah melayu wasnt even belong to ur kind for u to come forward so conveniently so arrogantly claiming ur land. even the usa wasnt discovered by columbus. so being humble might help ur kind alittle bit, history is not fact. u and tht politician are all the same, talk abt arrogant imbecile. u rmbr during primary school, those kids like to scold others "ini jalan bapa kamu punya keh?!" u n tht politician scold other races js like tht, an old primitive primary 6 school boy cheap tactic. its dam childish. its shocking u guys stil resort to scolding ppl like tht.

china is poor? hvg 1billion (is it?) population is not easy most families r poor yes i agree but do u know hw much is their reserve in USD? probly even beat the US

as for ur last two paras. i really don get wher ur actually getting to ifany relevance at all. we r not talking abt whos pwned in riots. how abt in msia? as for "Indonesia is only 15% Malay;the remainder being aborigines. Thats why Indonesia is as poor as China" abt 65% malays in msia yet chinese (abt 20-30%) owned >40% of the msia economy ru saying tht they somehow owns msia? lluckily the malays comprise 65 if it is 75 or more, iwill be too shamefull to even come close bringin the statement abt the indo thg up. well im js picking ur implied meanings anyway. sry if im wrong. even if the chinese indo were wrong, nothg, i mean NOTHING they do will ever deserve such CRUEL fate regardless who the pepertrators r. dont put ur stmt so lightly. hv u ever seen to wht extent tht cruelty was inflicted upon the chinese? u r no where, NOWHERE close to even judge the reason why the riot upon the chinese indo were punished even though if theyr mistake.

iron or not iron, iron when overheated will be shaped according to the mould anyway. wht im saying is no point in defending to the core like iron rather, be gracefull like a liquid iron and chg according changes. as to wht the deputy said. talk less and do more tht shld be more adequate, chg urself if u want to chg ur kind.

pls rmbr tht wht im saying here is not becus i see ur name Iron malayan therfore the attk NOR is it a personal atk. merely responding wht i feel abt ur posts k. chill.

*flamesuit on*
yana19384
we have to change for the better side of everything...cos we are not at all near perfect...so why do we have to stop somthing good from rolling towards us?...and plus...it is our hard work and so we can achieve what we want...

malays have to educate themselves more...im not talking about any of the malays in this forum cos i can see we are all up to date with stuff and we dont fall under any of the categories that may suggest we need to change our mind set....but i still think there are a lot out there who need to do some cleaning up their brains if at all its there somewhere
kongming
QUOTE(nanyang @ Aug 24 2005, 05:22 AM) [snapback]983006[/snapback]

And yeah China is a poor county and cant compete with MALAYSIA. LOLOLOL! Malaysia BOLEH!!

And yeah Chinese didnt dominate Indonesia economy, is the Malay who dominate 70% of the economy! LOLOLOL

And yeah when a country who have Chinese more are very underdevelop and very poor! LOLOLOL

And yeah in Malaysia is Malay who dominate the economy as well, and the Malay didnt receive help from the goverment, they score A results and Chinese cant compete with them. Oh my, Chinese are so stupid! LOLOLOL

Well well, ill save my breath, the fact is the fact. You cant change it no matter what you do.



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Can say it better myself

That is the kind of mindset(Iron what??) needs over haul embarassedlaugh.gif . unlike yana, panca, swing, etc the new generation biggthumpup.gif
BloodyDumbfuckm
put the flame to max, blue iron or red iron, all iron oso melt to $hit wan or not.
fadlee
All of us should stop being so arrogant to others.. theres no such thing that one is more superior than others regarding on what race you are.. the fact is more towards mindset and culture.. most of the malays are uneducated their top priority is more to religion matters.. compared to the chinese their culture were all about making money and prosperous life.. We are all the same but what matters is the way we think is different..
Protoculture
Yadda, yadda, yadda ....

Don't worry lah, the Malay's rights are slowly over. Sure, rejoiced when that time comes ...

But don't try breaching MARA pulak. It WILL CONTINUE TO PROTECT BUMIPUTRA INTERESTS EITHER IN BUSINESS OR EDUCATION SECTORS.

Those non-bumis menggatal to kacau MARA, sorry to say, its BUMI stronghold. Pls target other Govt. agencies.
Iron Malayan
QUOTE(BloodyDumbfu-km @ May 31 2006, 09:32 AM) [snapback]1904362[/snapback]

wonderful technologies? i tot ur kind not has the midas touch of gold but touch of ruins. practically everythg u touch turn to dust. if u chg ur mindset, wht u can achieve is much much more than today level. don u want to chg for sthg tht is capable of sthg greater? or u js settle for wht u feel comfortable or u think thts is good enuf; complacency.

at least billie lim is more daring/succesfful than u if u read abit abt his biography and stop being sarcastic abt him, show some respect. he wrote a book (crap or not) and a good seller, hv u written a book before? and dont gimme a stupid excuse on tis if u havent). and even Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak's touched on the Malays' mindset , so if u question anythg abt it, do u think who shld i believe. u or the najib? or u meaning to say ur smarter than najib?

If u were born a chinese? but ur not. and u cant nvr speak of how u will think becus ur not. bear in mind, its not only the chinese that look down on ur kind even some ur own kind did, ive met some unbiased malays taxi drivers i struck conversations did u know these malay taxi drivers wish for, well, they wasnt as harsh as u to wish the nonbumis just to return to their damn places, rather they wish the malays youngs who like entertainment all the time to buck up like the hardworking chinese youngs and a balance economy, and a better govt. see, even taxi drivers r better than some godammed politician who js cant ctrl his emotion n burst up the damned nonbumis to return to their ground. FU-K
not to mention the spore malays and the borneon malays share the same sentiments abt the peninsular malays but sry i don hv facts so tis is refutable cus hearsay. i may mix wit the wrong bunch. im a sbhan i know more than u in sbh. also, why defend so ferociously if u think it is all lies. if it is not the truth, u wldnt mind. but u mind, do u. tis its already too pervasive an issue for u to def in naught anyway. besides it is ignorant to always harp on the origin of other races. "damn place?" to put it bluntly, if u tracj back to history, prolly the tanah melayu wasnt even belong to ur kind for u to come forward so conveniently so arrogantly claiming ur land. even the usa wasnt discovered by columbus. so being humble might help ur kind alittle bit, history is not fact. u and tht politician are all the same, talk abt arrogant imbecile. u rmbr during primary school, those kids like to scold others "ini jalan bapa kamu punya keh?!" u n tht politician scold other races js like tht, an old primitive primary 6 school boy cheap tactic. its dam childish. its shocking u guys stil resort to scolding ppl like tht.

china is poor? hvg 1billion (is it?) population is not easy most families r poor yes i agree but do u know hw much is their reserve in USD? probly even beat the US

as for ur last two paras. i really don get wher ur actually getting to ifany relevance at all. we r not talking abt whos pwned in riots. how abt in msia? as for "Indonesia is only 15% Malay;the remainder being aborigines. Thats why Indonesia is as poor as China" abt 65% malays in msia yet chinese (abt 20-30%) owned >40% of the msia economy ru saying tht they somehow owns msia? lluckily the malays comprise 65 if it is 75 or more, iwill be too shamefull to even come close bringin the statement abt the indo thg up. well im js picking ur implied meanings anyway. sry if im wrong. even if the chinese indo were wrong, nothg, i mean NOTHING they do will ever deserve such CRUEL fate regardless who the pepertrators r. dont put ur stmt so lightly. hv u ever seen to wht extent tht cruelty was inflicted upon the chinese? u r no where, NOWHERE close to even judge the reason why the riot upon the chinese indo were punished even though if theyr mistake.

iron or not iron, iron when overheated will be shaped according to the mould anyway. wht im saying is no point in defending to the core like iron rather, be gracefull like a liquid iron and chg according changes. as to wht the deputy said. talk less and do more tht shld be more adequate, chg urself if u want to chg ur kind.

pls rmbr tht wht im saying here is not becus i see ur name Iron malayan therfore the attk NOR is it a personal atk. merely responding wht i feel abt ur posts k. chill.

*flamesuit on*


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but sry i don hv facts so tis is refutable cus hearsay
This is about the only point from you that I agree.


QUOTE
show some respect
Hey, don’t worry about it.
Showing “respect” for your ppl is something I’m truly good at. cool30.gif


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rather they wish the malays youngs who like entertainment all the time to buck up like the hardworking chinese youngs
I don’t get this. Why would a Malay want his ppl to be like the low-life good-for-nothing Chinese ?
Who the fu-k do you sepets think you are ??!!!!
feleaz
I agree with the topic. My general view on Malay businessmen are

( a ) satisfied with short term gain and enjoy it to the fullest
( b ) always want to be on the safer side by not taking up risky but lucrative businesses.
( c ) when a business fails, it is the end for the businessman, reluctant to build the business again.

the above views are also shared by many of my Malay friends.
fargowin
If only the malays are a bit smarter, then BN won't win. The problem is malays are too damn stupid that they keep voting for BN. I don't know what poison BN gave to make them in this state.
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