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Luca (Oranda-Jin Dutch)
Why do I detect a hatred against Chinese in almost every topic?
Sae
Because the haters don't know any better
iamdamus
Japanese people dislike Chinese people because they mass produce unauthentic Hello Kittys.
meiki
Because the people on these forums are biased, they are often pro-Japanese.
Japan is getting on China's (and Korea's) nerves, because they still haven't apoligized about their misbehaviour in the Second World War and now they claim some territories. The government it is. The Japanese people in general are mighty fine. But the government is filled with a lot of arrogant pricks.

But you can't deny that a lot of ancient and cultural stuff came from China.
item1702
QUOTE (Luca (Oranda-Jin Dutch) @ Apr 14 2005, 01:50 PM)
Why do I detect a hatred against Chinese in almost every topic?
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Are you talking about hate against the Chinese in the Japanese Chat? At the moment I would agree there is a lot of Chinese hate in here but it mostly has been directed towards the Japanese. Every other thread here basically has some saying some racial slur. “Japanese are this." “Japanese are that.” icon_rolleyes.gif
flipcombatmedic
QUOTE (item1702 @ Apr 15 2005, 08:09 AM)
QUOTE (Luca (Oranda-Jin Dutch) @ Apr 14 2005, 01:50 PM)
Why do I detect a hatred against Chinese in almost every topic?
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Are you talking about hate against the Chinese in the Japanese Chat? At the moment I would agree there is a lot of Chinese hate in here but it mostly has been directed towards the Japanese. Every other thread here basically has some saying some racial slur. “Japanese are this." “Japanese are that.” icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yeah I second the motion.

this question had been asked a time and time again.

but for this season, i think there is more hatred directed to japanese than/by chinese
anlong7931
QUOTE (meiki @ Apr 15 2005, 07:47 AM)
Because the people on these forums are biased, they are often pro-Japanese.
Japan is getting on China's (and Korea's)  nerves, because they still haven't apoligized about their misbehaviour in the Second World War and now they claim some territories. The government it is. The Japanese people in general are mighty fine. But the government is filled with a lot of arrogant pricks.

But you can't deny that a lot of ancient and cultural stuff came from China.
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What I don't get is why they are making such a big deal about the past??
barkerintokyo
I completely disagree with the title of this post. This entire forum is blatantly ANTI-JAPANESE. There are racial slurs thrown about as if it is normal and every post leads to some mockery or insulting of the Japanese. I ask that the Chinese apologize to the Japanese on this forum immediately (though I doubt this would happen). Putting aside what you're arguing, you should at least apologize for insulting us. Anyone would agree that your methods of arguing are illegitimate and immature. The Japanese here have never gone to your forums and insulted the Chinese.

Anti-Chinese? That's a laugh.
questionnaire
Well in this community, there are still anti-Chinese sentiments because of ethnocentricity among each of us. You can just feel it, even though you probably didn't see any negative comments. And the persistent Chinazis are pretty much in the same boat and making other Chinese look bad. But that's only sometimes because they defend their people from insults from other ethnic groups. And plus you hear some derogatory joke in the media about Chinese people, but people act like it's a normal thing.
Yi Sun Sin
There are many criticisms from both sides. Though, the chinese have good reason for anti-japanese sentiments, and everyone knows why.
chynagongju
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Apr 16 2005, 09:12 AM)
I completely disagree with the title of this post. This entire forum is blatantly ANTI-JAPANESE. There are racial slurs thrown about as if it is normal and every post leads to some mockery or insulting of the Japanese. I ask that the Chinese apologize to the Japanese on this forum immediately (though I doubt this would happen). Putting aside what you're arguing, you should at least apologize for insulting us. Anyone would agree that your methods of arguing are illegitimate and immature. The Japanese here have never gone to your forums and insulted the Chinese.

Anti-Chinese? That's a laugh.
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HEY! Wow haven't seen you post in a long time!

Anyways, I don't feel this whole forum is blatanly anti-Japanese. I wonder if you read any of my posts in these threads. Do I see anti-Japanese?

Well, if you want an apology for the racial-ness and mocking, none of which I participated in, as a Chinese to you, a Japanese, I will apologize.

Sorry for the comments that others made about Japanese people, their hate is wrongly directed at the people rather than the government. I don't feel that I have insulted Japanese people before, but...if you think otherwise, I'm sorry. Please don't judge all Chinese people on a few that you've seen talk badly about them.

I'd also like to say that there is anti-Chinese sentiment on the board. Especially from the Korean section lately. Used to be the Vietnamese section, and before that, the Khmer section I think.
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Apr 18 2005, 06:23 AM)
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Apr 16 2005, 09:12 AM)
I completely disagree with the title of this post. This entire forum is blatantly ANTI-JAPANESE. There are racial slurs thrown about as if it is normal and every post leads to some mockery or insulting of the Japanese. I ask that the Chinese apologize to the Japanese on this forum immediately (though I doubt this would happen). Putting aside what you're arguing, you should at least apologize for insulting us. Anyone would agree that your methods of arguing are illegitimate and immature. The Japanese here have never gone to your forums and insulted the Chinese.

Anti-Chinese? That's a laugh.
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HEY! Wow haven't seen you post in a long time!

Anyways, I don't feel this whole forum is blatanly anti-Japanese. I wonder if you read any of my posts in these threads. Do I see anti-Japanese?

Well, if you want an apology for the racial-ness and mocking, none of which I participated in, as a Chinese to you, a Japanese, I will apologize.

Sorry for the comments that others made about Japanese people, their hate is wrongly directed at the people rather than the government. I don't feel that I have insulted Japanese people before, but...if you think otherwise, I'm sorry. Please don't judge all Chinese people on a few that you've seen talk badly about them.

I'd also like to say that there is anti-Chinese sentiment on the board. Especially from the Korean section lately. Used to be the Vietnamese section, and before that, the Khmer section I think.
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Chynagongju, I understand you wanting to apologise for anything you think would be apparantly racial but don't go overboard with Barkerintokyo.

There are some racial slurs on this site but these are heavily-provoked by the likes of Barkerintokyo when he writes certain inflammatory threads designed to get a racist reaction. So please don't apologise to him when he is an instigated trying to incite racial insults so that he can play the victim. nono.gif

The idea that this board is entirely anti-Japanese is ridiculous. It just so happens that the Japanese government is due alot of criticism over its actions at this current point and most of these criticisms are presented on this board in a well-thought out and non-racist way.
chynagongju
QUOTE (Jaimu-Jaimu @ Apr 17 2005, 11:30 PM)
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Apr 18 2005, 06:23 AM)
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Apr 16 2005, 09:12 AM)
I completely disagree with the title of this post. This entire forum is blatantly ANTI-JAPANESE. There are racial slurs thrown about as if it is normal and every post leads to some mockery or insulting of the Japanese. I ask that the Chinese apologize to the Japanese on this forum immediately (though I doubt this would happen). Putting aside what you're arguing, you should at least apologize for insulting us. Anyone would agree that your methods of arguing are illegitimate and immature. The Japanese here have never gone to your forums and insulted the Chinese.

Anti-Chinese? That's a laugh.
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HEY! Wow haven't seen you post in a long time!

Anyways, I don't feel this whole forum is blatanly anti-Japanese. I wonder if you read any of my posts in these threads. Do I see anti-Japanese?

Well, if you want an apology for the racial-ness and mocking, none of which I participated in, as a Chinese to you, a Japanese, I will apologize.

Sorry for the comments that others made about Japanese people, their hate is wrongly directed at the people rather than the government. I don't feel that I have insulted Japanese people before, but...if you think otherwise, I'm sorry. Please don't judge all Chinese people on a few that you've seen talk badly about them.

I'd also like to say that there is anti-Chinese sentiment on the board. Especially from the Korean section lately. Used to be the Vietnamese section, and before that, the Khmer section I think.
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Chynagongju, I understand you wanting to apologise for anything you think would be apparantly racial but don't go overboard with Barkerintokyo.

There are some racial slurs on this site but these are heavily-provoked by the likes of Barkerintokyo when he writes certain inflammatory threads designed to get a racist reaction. So please don't apologise to him when he is an instigated trying to incite racial insults so that he can play the victim. nono.gif

The idea that this board is entirely anti-Japanese is ridiculous. It just so happens that the Japanese government is due alot of criticism over its actions at this current point and most of these criticisms are presented on this board in a well-thought out and non-racist way.
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Lol...I see. I didn't know he started inflammatory threads. I just remember the name, not the posts that came along with it. I don't think the board is anti-Japanese either. biggthumpup.gif
freefallz
Why?

Simply put,
hate against China and Chinese = hate against communism, ie different attitudes and mentalities in relation to the western standpoint on various issues.
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Apr 18 2005, 06:31 AM)
Lol...I see. I didn't know he started inflammatory threads. I just remember the name, not the posts that came along with it. I don't think the board is anti-Japanese either.  biggthumpup.gif
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http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...topic=33697&hl=

I know this is supposed to be a place of discussion but I personally thought that writing such a thread as this was very provocative and trying to get a reaction out of people by writing something absolutely ridiculous.

To be fair, it was the only one I knew him to write but it did stick in my mind even now and I do discuss it with my Japanese friends and even they find his views offensive and are surprised that the Chinese people in the topic are taking it so well and not just screaming abuse at him.

I just think such blind arrogance from the Japanese side is one of the major problems in Chinese-Japanese relations at the moment and this stems from the government all the way down through every right-wing nationalist.

His thread basically accuses Chinese of being liars and he completely rewrites history in it. Then he has the audacity to accuse the board of being anti-Japanese? Ha....no wonder.

EDIT: In other words, despite everything that's happening, the Chinese people on this board seem to be very tolerant and non-racist in their attitude when discussing sensitive topics.

*Waves at Chyna* Haven't seen you for a few days! victory.gif
chynagongju
^Ah..I see...makes sense.

Hehe yeah I was home for the weekend away from my computer so I didn't have much access time to computer/AF. My bros took over the comp to play games lol biggrin.gif
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Apr 18 2005, 07:03 AM)
^Ah..I see...makes sense.

Hehe yeah I was home for the weekend away from my computer so I didn't have much access time to computer/AF. My bros took over the comp to play games lol biggrin.gif
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^ Sorry, I've been wound up recently by some of the stuff written. *Tries to relax*

I have the exact same situation at home though, a couple of weeks ago I was back home for the weekend and got on the computer like once. Brothers and their online gaming! madgo.gif embarassedlaugh.gif2
chynagongju
LOL SHHH...No conversations in threads!! But yes. Same situation with online gaming!! embarassedlaugh.gif

On topic----ehh Some Chinese members are tolerant, others, not so much. Puyi, new member isn't...Red Alert Z isn't either. Old ChiNazis are mostly gone, and those that remain are pretty tolerant. Xu's being more moderate now, Lin is pretty good too. Which is cool. Seems like a new breed is being born out of the ashes of the old...heh.
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE (chynagongju @ Apr 18 2005, 07:19 AM)
LOL SHHH...No conversations in threads!! But yes. Same situation with online gaming!! embarassedlaugh.gif

On topic----ehh Some Chinese members are tolerant, others, not so much. Puyi, new member isn't...Red Alert Z isn't either. Old ChiNazis are mostly gone, and those that remain are pretty tolerant. Xu's being more moderate now, Lin is pretty good too. Which is cool. Seems like a new breed is being born out of the ashes of the old...heh.
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Technically one line of my last post was on-topic! icon_wink.gif

I think that the members here are very tolerant! When you consider the actual reality of the relations between the countries where the governments are acting like kids, demanding apologies etc. I think the members here are quite mature in comparison! But yeah, Puyi seems like he has STRONG feelings on the subject (To put it kindly). icon_wink.gif
barkerintokyo
I don't know if some of the people here are so mature.

Whenever I suggest that Japan hadn't been as bad as China makes it out to be, I get bashed by the Chinese on the board. I'm called a "f@g" and I am threatened. Some people have even threatened my family members.

I think some people on this board are at least slightly immature and intolerant.
Jaimu-Jaimu
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Apr 19 2005, 01:22 PM)
I don't know if some of the people here are so mature.

Whenever I suggest that Japan hadn't been as bad as China makes it out to be, I get bashed by the Chinese on the board. I'm called a "f@g" and I am threatened. Some people have even threatened my family members.

I think some people on this board are at least slightly immature and intolerant.
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Someone threatened your family? That's horrible. I'm sorry about that. icon_sad.gif You don't deserve that.

There are some who are like that Barker but most of them are newbies who will end up getting banned before too long.
Ogumo
QUOTE (item1702 @ Apr 15 2005, 08:09 AM)
QUOTE (Luca (Oranda-Jin Dutch) @ Apr 14 2005, 01:50 PM)
Why do I detect a hatred against Chinese in almost every topic?
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Are you talking about hate against the Chinese in the Japanese Chat? At the moment I would agree there is a lot of Chinese hate in here but it mostly has been directed towards the Japanese. Every other thread here basically has some saying some racial slur. “Japanese are this." “Japanese are that.” icon_rolleyes.gif
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I am glad someone else sees. Our chinese have selective memory as usual.

Luca:

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Why do I detect a hatred against Chinese in almost every topic?


I give the chinese and especially the koreans ( kiss.gif ) back the same thing that they give us. I am more than satisfied to keep the cycle going. Despite the fact that there are both chinese and koreans here that mean no harm. It would be best for you not to think of my posts against these people as "hate" because I do not feel "hate" for these groups. Not yet atleast. It would be best for you to view my posts as "Reactionary" or "hostile".

Meatball:
The racial slurs that have been used against japanese here will continue as long as the moderators turn a blind eye to it. Even if it does stop here do you consider it victory? I certainly do not. With me now posting here I am quite happy to see another. A word of advice from me...stay away from the nanjing threads. Or anything else involving the greater east asia war and you'll be fine.
Mr. Tree
its funny how you all use garbage like Selective memory as though its actually a REAL thing?? get a life you liars. just face the facts and ADMIT it.

why am i even bothering anymore. your gonna get your comeuppins anyway, dont blame anyone else but yourselves.
Col
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Apr 19 2005, 04:22 AM)
I don't know if some of the people here are so mature.

Whenever I suggest that Japan hadn't been as bad as China makes it out to be, I get bashed by the Chinese on the board. I'm called a "f@g" and I am threatened. Some people have even threatened my family members.

I think some people on this board are at least slightly immature and intolerant.
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Some, most of the people here are reasonable people. And I think you lost your debate against the sensible people =)
SniperWZ
Barker got shut up a while ago...some college education and he might even renounce his denial theories...
Minako_megami
Pfft... The chinese on these forums are the most guilty of racial behavoir.. and as for this statement made about them being provoked by baka, i will say thing "you are a moron". How is that for provoking?

Korea and china are the ones who started the dispute by having ships in japanese waters reapeatly provoking the issue and when the UN was supose to step in Korea dint seem to want to corperate... ring any bells?
Col
Have you even read some of the stuff barker has said in the past? As for foreign ships in "Japanese territory," it's called disputed territory and therefore is owned by neither side. You're way too bias over here. If you ask me, it's Japan's fault for provoking the other nations by doing a bunch of unilateral things. Those Tokyo @$$hole mayor and officials going off to dispute territory claiming it as Japan's and the unsanctioned construction of a lighthouse and now a "stone" of some sort?

As for the racial insult part, i wouldn't know since i haven't been here long =)
freefallz
QUOTE (Minako_megami @ Jun 30 2005, 08:37 PM)
Pfft... The chinese on these forums are the most guilty of racial behavoir.. and as for this statement  made about them being provoked by barker, i will say thing "you are a moron". How is that for provoking?

Korea and china are the ones who started the dispute by having ships in japanese  waters  reapeatly provoking  the issue and when the UN was supose to step in Korea dint seem to want to corperate... ring any bells?
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Hmm I seriously do not see how the stuff barker posted WASN'T provokative UNLESS you two share the same view.
chilli21
QUOTE (barkerintokyo @ Apr 19 2005, 11:22 PM)
I don't know if some of the people here are so mature.

Whenever I suggest that Japan hadn't been as bad as China makes it out to be, I get bashed by the Chinese on the board. I'm called a "f@g" and I am threatened. Some people have even threatened my family members.

I think some people on this board are at least slightly immature and intolerant.
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i understand your opinion and i don't think all japaneses are bad. my mum has been to japan before in the past and she likes it. not all chineses are racists. go to western australia and u'll likely get bashed physically rather than verbally. the chineses who insult you is not because what japan did in WW 2 but your government's way of handling the affair and also your comparison between japan and china. most people would think that such comparison is kind of looking down at the chineses. their anger is toward the government not the people. the problem is when people try to point their fingers at certain people, they end up generalising the entire race.
LOVEWHIZ
so much hatred, why can we all just get along! this is outrageous!
RentonWong
Because Taiwanese and Japanese believe they are superior.
kyosak
Reason: Because of all the trolls.
RentonWong
QUOTE (LOVEWHIZ @ Aug 12 2005, 12:23 PM)
so much hatred, why can we all just get along! this is outrageous!
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Yes. Let's get naked and get in an Orgy to let out all our Frustrations! embarassedlaugh.gif2
Bulldogg
China are surpassing Japan in being an economic super power, Japanese buisnessmen have also been investing millions of $ in China. China is Japan's #1 tradeing partner now, where as before the U.S were.

So it's the U.S.A undermineing all the problems along with Koizumi the puppet leader of Japan who is pro U.S.A.
MrSzeto
QUOTE (anlong7931 @ Apr 16 2005, 06:22 AM)
QUOTE (meiki @ Apr 15 2005, 07:47 AM)
Because the people on these forums are biased, they are often pro-Japanese.
Japan is getting on China's (and Korea's)  nerves, because they still haven't apoligized about their misbehaviour in the Second World War and now they claim some territories. The government it is. The Japanese people in general are mighty fine. But the government is filled with a lot of arrogant pricks.

But you can't deny that a lot of ancient and cultural stuff came from China.
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What I don't get is why they are making such a big deal about the past??
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YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WHY CHINESE PEOPLE MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THE PAST? I'll tell you why, simply because JAPANESE PEOPLE have too much pride to admit to their faults. How come the Jews no longer hate the German (Nazis) during WW2, because they apologized, they didn't ERASE what did they in history books. You Japanese on the other hand deny everything you did! and whats more funny you said you attacked China because u were defending yourself? what you defend yourself in someone's elses country? PLEASE revise your own extreme right government!
neonflux
QUOTE (anlong7931 @ Apr 16 2005, 03:22 AM)
QUOTE (meiki @ Apr 15 2005, 07:47 AM)
Because the people on these forums are biased, they are often pro-Japanese.
Japan is getting on China's (and Korea's)  nerves, because they still haven't apoligized about their misbehaviour in the Second World War and now they claim some territories. The government it is. The Japanese people in general are mighty fine. But the government is filled with a lot of arrogant pricks.

But you can't deny that a lot of ancient and cultural stuff came from China.
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What I don't get is why they are making such a big deal about the past??
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WTF? dude...millions slaughter without apoligies can really last forever man. china holds a grudge, it has every right. the imperial japanese army did not compensate for everysingle life lost, nor do they acknowledge it..


so they kill and got away with it
Ogumo
It is because of chinese racism.
nanyang
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Aug 18 2005, 03:02 PM)
It is because of chinese racism.
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Wrong, its because Chinese are everywhere. There are alot of reason for this.
Ogumo
To be honest the reason doesn't even matter to me.
nanyang
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Aug 18 2005, 03:44 PM)
To be honest the reason doesn't even matter to me.
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Than why you still bother to reply this thread? embarassedlaugh.gif
Ogumo
Because I thought about it a little further after your response.
chilli21
QUOTE (Ogumo @ Aug 19 2005, 07:50 AM)
Because I thought about it a little further after your response.
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nice response biggthumpup.gif
PandaBear
dont know
Surviving Abortedd
I dont think Japanese hate Chinese so much but just ignore before.But now uprising criticize toward China because of their selfish one-way claims and policies toward Japan like a territory,oil well,or textbbook,even Japan they supported China from 1972 after the statement below.the statement is officially dipromatic doccument and agreement,defins the condition n relation btw CHN n JPN
Check it all the statement or treaty agreed btw JPN and CHN.JPN govt,representative of JPNs,had already officially appologize toward CHN when they concluded to agreed the Sino-Japan statement in 2 wz CHNs PM Zhou Enlai n JPNs PM Kakuei,Tanaka ,that defines CHN abondon all the compensation toward JPN,but not written in this satement,another agreement under the table,JPN will assure to support enormous financial n technical cooporation every year.But China use enormous money for developping itsu own Nukes,using expanding military for supressing minorities like Tibet or Uygur and so on. give another poor developped country even China recieve from Japan.There are many inflastructure plans in China by Japans cooperation,CHN intentionary veiled thisfact on JPN's cooperation toward about Japan,it is unbalanced n unfair,they made only anti-JPNs war musium but no aanouce for cooperation.
It has proven in Japan in this 10 years and critisize not only Chinese govt but also Japanese govt,even they have strongry ties wz United States, they support China they do above. And proven those kind of assistance are maybe white-washed in China, that is why Japanese are much anger toward Chinese goverment and mass medie(there are no true journalism in China because there are many restriction toward freedom right for publishing,many Japanse feel sympathy about terrible condition)they claim so much.
Moreover,Japanese gotta angry the demonstration toward Japan.I can agree on demonstration toward the embassy.they have a right to demonstration.But I strongry disagree Chinese attack to destroy Japanese shop or Japanese people in China,because these act is serious criminal.Im concerning about Chinese in Japan.They are almost polite n manage their own business.Its okay,They would be revenged by Japanese people.
Whether it is good or not,even some ministers state his or her own assesment toward history,not in officially,and CHN or KOR claims it,after that they appologize everytime.But no broadcasting in CHN n KOR n they said NO APPOROGIZE again n again.Which country are lier?
education
I would reply but Im not quite sure what you just said??? confused.gif
PandaBear
seen initial d
kunomchu
why you keep saying seen initial d?
PandaBear
i think is related to china and japan initial d
Mid-Night_Sun
QUOTE (PandaBear @ Aug 20 2005, 07:28 AM)
i think is related to china and japan initial d
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can you explain? lol...
PandaBear
is shows how the chinese are over in japan
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