US actions make China-Russia alliance appealing
(Global Times)
13:53, January 20, 2012
As US aircraft carrier groups gather in the Arabian Sea, a showdown between Iran and the West is rumbling on. If a war erupts, this will be another upshot of the US pursuit of absolute national security.
Mainstream forces in Washington are trying to sell a ludicrous standpoint to the American people: that it is worthwhile to bear financial costs and even lose some lives to confront lurking dangers to US security in the Middle East.
This is not a rational analysis, but rather a pious belief in US politics. With an appetite for national security causes, the US becomes increasingly meticulous in eliminating potential challenges.
The US has somewhat defused two powder kegs in the Middle East: Iraq and Afghanistan. It also helped bring the fall of Slobodan Milosevic and Yugoslavia. Now it is preparing for a potential confrontation with Iran, and appears confident of another successful air strike.
Such a demonstration of armed might makes powers like Russia and China increasingly nervous.
By stirring up other powers' sense of insecurity, the US is actually undermining its own interests. Its security paranoia instills many uncertainties into global dynamics and into the US itself.
If the West slides into a war with Iran, the damages will not be any lower than the potential threat of Iran's nuclear power.
Perhaps the US is used to resorting to war to solve geopolitical problems. But many worry that such a mentality will sooner or later lead to a US clash with Russia and China. So far Moscow and Beijing are relatively restrained, though NATO seeks to expand its strategic presence in East Europe and US strengthening its military alliances in Asia. But the two cannot fall back forever.
For Beijing and Moscow alike, ties with the US have been stressful. The two don't want to set off external doubts in their heated relations. But in both countries, an increasing number of people now advocate a Moscow-Beijing "alliance." The two do have countermeasures against the US, and they are capable of deterring US allies. If they are really determined to join hands, the balance of power on many world issues will begin to shift.
Absolute security is a luxury that no country can afford. If the US unscrupulously imposes its own will and even forces Russia and China into taking action, global dynamics may go back to chaos over which the US will have little control. History shows that any power having an inflated ego usually ends badly.
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what i find most amusing is the idea that the United States is going to secure any of the other Asian countries interests for them. you cant be serious. America cant secure its own interests from China lmao. be realistic please. between currency and hacking they have been complaining about China for years.
but why speculate, theres a clear example of an inter asian issue already. America has been a key player in the North Korea issue, not even about who has more sway, but has that issue magically been solved? let alone in favour of US allies in Japan and South Korea? think America is some sort of genie that can grant wishes? and that was with a lunatic with nukes. who knows where the issues like obscure islands rank.
Full Version: US actions make China-Russia alliance appealing
Why are there so many Russians writing for Chinese newspapers? LOL...
I'm pretty sure the SCO is already in alliance, I don't know if they are keeping it quiet though. I haven't heard anything about an Chinese-Russian alliance in western media.
I'm pretty sure the SCO is already in alliance, I don't know if they are keeping it quiet though. I haven't heard anything about an Chinese-Russian alliance in western media.
SCO isnt a military alliance. it isnt like NATO. but you could say its an alliance. well the western media doesnt mention any cooperation or alliance, but you can bet China and Russia are getting singled out together because of the Syria thing in the UN. you dont see a double veto often.
QUOTE (Mid-Night_Sun @ Jan 30 2012, 07:02 AM) 
US actions make China-Russia alliance appealing
(Global Times)
13:53, January 20, 2012
As US aircraft carrier groups gather in the Arabian Sea, a showdown between Iran and the West is rumbling on. If a war erupts, this will be another upshot of the US pursuit of absolute national security.
Mainstream forces in Washington are trying to sell a ludicrous standpoint to the American people: that it is worthwhile to bear financial costs and even lose some lives to confront lurking dangers to US security in the Middle East.
This is not a rational analysis, but rather a pious belief in US politics. With an appetite for national security causes, the US becomes increasingly meticulous in eliminating potential challenges.
The US has somewhat defused two powder kegs in the Middle East: Iraq and Afghanistan. It also helped bring the fall of Slobodan Milosevic and Yugoslavia. Now it is preparing for a potential confrontation with Iran, and appears confident of another successful air strike.
Such a demonstration of armed might makes powers like Russia and China increasingly nervous.
By stirring up other powers' sense of insecurity, the US is actually undermining its own interests. Its security paranoia instills many uncertainties into global dynamics and into the US itself.
If the West slides into a war with Iran, the damages will not be any lower than the potential threat of Iran's nuclear power.
Perhaps the US is used to resorting to war to solve geopolitical problems. But many worry that such a mentality will sooner or later lead to a US clash with Russia and China. So far Moscow and Beijing are relatively restrained, though NATO seeks to expand its strategic presence in East Europe and US strengthening its military alliances in Asia. But the two cannot fall back forever.
For Beijing and Moscow alike, ties with the US have been stressful. The two don't want to set off external doubts in their heated relations. But in both countries, an increasing number of people now advocate a Moscow-Beijing "alliance." The two do have countermeasures against the US, and they are capable of deterring US allies. If they are really determined to join hands, the balance of power on many world issues will begin to shift.
Absolute security is a luxury that no country can afford. If the US unscrupulously imposes its own will and even forces Russia and China into taking action, global dynamics may go back to chaos over which the US will have little control. History shows that any power having an inflated ego usually ends badly.
(Global Times)
13:53, January 20, 2012
As US aircraft carrier groups gather in the Arabian Sea, a showdown between Iran and the West is rumbling on. If a war erupts, this will be another upshot of the US pursuit of absolute national security.
Mainstream forces in Washington are trying to sell a ludicrous standpoint to the American people: that it is worthwhile to bear financial costs and even lose some lives to confront lurking dangers to US security in the Middle East.
This is not a rational analysis, but rather a pious belief in US politics. With an appetite for national security causes, the US becomes increasingly meticulous in eliminating potential challenges.
The US has somewhat defused two powder kegs in the Middle East: Iraq and Afghanistan. It also helped bring the fall of Slobodan Milosevic and Yugoslavia. Now it is preparing for a potential confrontation with Iran, and appears confident of another successful air strike.
Such a demonstration of armed might makes powers like Russia and China increasingly nervous.
By stirring up other powers' sense of insecurity, the US is actually undermining its own interests. Its security paranoia instills many uncertainties into global dynamics and into the US itself.
If the West slides into a war with Iran, the damages will not be any lower than the potential threat of Iran's nuclear power.
Perhaps the US is used to resorting to war to solve geopolitical problems. But many worry that such a mentality will sooner or later lead to a US clash with Russia and China. So far Moscow and Beijing are relatively restrained, though NATO seeks to expand its strategic presence in East Europe and US strengthening its military alliances in Asia. But the two cannot fall back forever.
For Beijing and Moscow alike, ties with the US have been stressful. The two don't want to set off external doubts in their heated relations. But in both countries, an increasing number of people now advocate a Moscow-Beijing "alliance." The two do have countermeasures against the US, and they are capable of deterring US allies. If they are really determined to join hands, the balance of power on many world issues will begin to shift.
Absolute security is a luxury that no country can afford. If the US unscrupulously imposes its own will and even forces Russia and China into taking action, global dynamics may go back to chaos over which the US will have little control. History shows that any power having an inflated ego usually ends badly.
The US govt is not doing a great job of selling war with Iran. Sigh. Do they really need to bomb the crap out of another country? Iran is years away from any real threat too. There are enough internal US problems to deal with.
I'd be wary of dealing with Moscow. Too shady for me. Russians would agree too. lol.
id trust Russia to look after its own interest. thats about it. most likely a 2 front against US, which frankly doesnt require any coordination between China and Russia.
US piss off Russia with their missile defense on Russia's Euroside border. US is trying to annoy China by "coming back" to Asia Pacific. both countries just need to take on the US on their own specific interest and its enough to back the US down imo.
US piss off Russia with their missile defense on Russia's Euroside border. US is trying to annoy China by "coming back" to Asia Pacific. both countries just need to take on the US on their own specific interest and its enough to back the US down imo.
QUOTE (Mid-Night_Sun @ Jan 30 2012, 10:17 AM)
id trust Russia to look after its own interest. thats about it. most likely a 2 front against US, which frankly doesnt require any coordination between China and Russia.
US piss off Russia with their missile defense on Russia's Euroside border. US is trying to annoy China by "coming back" to Asia Pacific. both countries just need to take on the US on their own specific interest and its enough to back the US down imo.
US piss off Russia with their missile defense on Russia's Euroside border. US is trying to annoy China by "coming back" to Asia Pacific. both countries just need to take on the US on their own specific interest and its enough to back the US down imo.
Russia will always protect their own interests and so will China. It just happens that right now their interests are pointed towards the same direction. I also think that S. America and the middle east have the same interest as China and Russia. I would count S. America as more of a true friend to China though.
Look at these so called US "allies" who only use America to further their own interests like Vietnam. The only countries that don't look after their own interests is Korea and Japan because they're American puppet states.
QUOTE (devils666 @ Jan 30 2012, 02:43 PM)
Russia will always protect their own interests and so will China. It just happens that right now their interests are pointed towards the same direction. I also think that S. America and the middle east have the same interest as China and Russia. I would count S. America as more of a true friend to China though.
Look at these so called US "allies" who only use America to further their own interests like Vietnam. The only countries that don't look after their own interests is Korea and Japan because they're American puppet states.
Look at these so called US "allies" who only use America to further their own interests like Vietnam. The only countries that don't look after their own interests is Korea and Japan because they're American puppet states.
America's CIA offer no option but for the enemies of of America to united against America. That is the only way the CIA and the US Defence forces and CIA can get all the funds they need to expand their own departmental empires.
QUOTE (faydabakery @ Jan 30 2012, 10:07 PM)
The US govt is not doing a great job of selling war with Iran. Sigh. Do they really need to bomb the crap out of another country? Iran is years away from any real threat too. There are enough internal US problems to deal with.
I'd be wary of dealing with Moscow. Too shady for me. Russians would agree too. lol.
I'd be wary of dealing with Moscow. Too shady for me. Russians would agree too. lol.
A prophecy said Iran will invade Europe.
That is why European leaders are very worry about Iran.
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