GoBears
Nov 29 2011, 02:57 PM
Written in Viet and Chinese, but the pictures are self-explaining. When no country cared about these rocks back in the 1600s - 1800s, we actually had Viet folks living there.
http://vnexpress.net/gl/xa-hoi/2011/11/chu...u-the-ky-truoc/http://vnexpress.net/gl/xa-hoi/2011/11/chu...ruoc/page_1.asp
SINOREN
Nov 29 2011, 05:05 PM
We know that belong to you guys but Your prime minister sold them to us in 1958. There are a document proved that paracel sold by Vietnamese prime minister, That is why we have right to invaded paracel island by force in 1974 to kick out south vietnamese regime who stationed there.
Don't complained chinese invasion, complained your goverment sold it to us.
wnch
Dec 1 2011, 09:46 AM
QUOTE (SINOREN @ Nov 29 2011, 06:05 PM)

We know that belong to you guys but Your prime minister sold them to us in 1958. There are a document proved that paracel sold by Vietnamese prime minister, That is why we have right to invaded paracel island by force in 1974 to kick out south vietnamese regime who stationed there.
Don't complained chinese invasion, complained your goverment sold it to us.
Which document? Can you show it? Why isn't the Chinese government showing their documents in public for everyone to assess their authenticity?
I've said this many times: it is Vietnam's misfortune to be next to China - the evilest empire in Asia today.
GoBears
Dec 1 2011, 10:22 AM
QUOTE (wnch @ Dec 1 2011, 09:46 AM)

Which document? Can you show it? Why isn't the Chinese government showing their documents in public for everyone to assess their authenticity?
I've said this many times: it is Vietnam's misfortune to be next to China - the evilest empire in Asia today.
I didn’t want to reply to him because a PM’s written note has no legal biding. You need the approval from the Parliament and the Party to make it official. The country was not unified at the time, and the PM’s note did not represent the whole country. They took advantage of unstable situation in the country and usurped the Paracel.
wnch
Dec 1 2011, 10:48 AM
QUOTE (GoBears @ Dec 1 2011, 11:22 AM)

I didn’t want to reply to him because a PM’s written note has no legal biding. You need the approval from the Parliament and the Party to make it official. The country was not unified at the time, and the PM’s note did not represent the whole country. They took advantage of unstable situation in the country and usurped the Paracel.
Are you talking about that fake note forged by Catholicists? I've seen it, it looks fake because it contains school-boy errors in it.
Unix2012
Dec 1 2011, 11:38 AM

With several weeks of preparation...
With hundreds of organizers...
With hundreds, thousands, of people having seen this banner...
And not half a Century ago, but in 2010.
On one of the most important elements of Vietnamese Culture ("Banh Chung).
And yet, a spelling mistake was put in front of everybody to see.("Banh Trung" vs "Banh Chung") .
Oh yeah, I'm sure the children of the Puppet-Ho-Chi-Minh will lie and deny too. After all, their father-of-the-nation the stupid Ho Chi Minh gave them a shining example.
Oh, what was it again ?
Oh, "Uncle Whore Chi Minh never ordered the assassination of Uncle's own mistress to build a fake image of "Uncle". Or
"Uncle Whore Chi Minh", such a patriot so he lived a single life. Or
"Uncle Whore" never followed orders from, never got money from Commie Stalin. Or
"Uncle Whore Chi Minh" never wanted to be a French-puppet,
"Uncle Whore" never wrote the 1958 letter to the Chinese.
"Uncle Whore Chi Minh" ... etc... etc
Thằng chó đẻ Hồ Chí Minh taught its children to lie so well indeed.
GoBears
Dec 1 2011, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (wnch @ Dec 1 2011, 10:48 AM)

Are you talking about that fake note forged by Catholicists? I've seen it, it looks fake because it contains school-boy errors in it.
This note.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1958_dip...o_zhouenlai.jpg
Vinne
Dec 2 2011, 06:04 AM
LOL how many time i need to post the translation?
12 nautical miles from south china coast?
Lol...
wnch
Dec 2 2011, 08:21 AM
Every time I'm shown 'the note' it's a different version!!! Anyways, this version is difficult to read and it mentions '12 hải lư', which cannot include the Paracels?
I'm still convinced the Catholicists are trying to undermine Vietnam's position by forging low quality fakes, because it is their day job.
Please show more info, such as where did the note come from? Who has confirmed it is genuine? Etc.
thenguyen
Dec 2 2011, 08:34 AM
QUOTE (SINOREN @ Nov 29 2011, 06:05 PM)

We know that belong to you guys but Your prime minister sold them to us in 1958. There are a document proved that paracel sold by Vietnamese prime minister, That is why we have right to invaded paracel island by force in 1974 to kick out south vietnamese regime who stationed there.
Don't complained chinese invasion, complained your goverment sold it to us.
which prime minister? why did he need to sold it? How much did your gov pay for him. Lol, these islands belong to every Vietnamese person not just that prime minister. If the 1 child policy doesn't work, then ask your gov introducing zero child policy or ask your people stop making sex, then with that population I believe it will be enough space for your people to live and you people don't need to stole neighbors 's lands to claim yours.
Unix2012
Dec 2 2011, 10:43 AM
The closet Hypocrites (like the guy with the nick Dalatsomething, plus the closet Hypocrite GardenSnake, plus... etc...) who love the commies so much, but somehow, those closet Hypocrites are so quiet now.
These closet commies should read this from:
(NOTE: NOW BEFORE THE CHILDREN of the Puppet for the Commies Ho-Chi-Minh jump in here to deflect the attention from "THE REASON" why the puppet for the Commies Ho-Chi-Minh felt compelled to write a response to the Commie-Chineses in 1958.
DO REMEMBER this Commies: THE COMMIE-CHINESE DECLARATION 2 WEEKS BEFORE WAS NOT SENT TO COMMIE-HO. It was just a People-Republic-of-China's People's House of Assembly Affairs. Not Mao, nor Chu ever sent a request to Ho regarding their Declaration. (They were more aiming at the Taiwanese+USA).
So why did Commie Ho-Chi-Minh so eager to answer ? So eager to acknowledge with the Commie-Chinese ?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(Báo Đại Đoàn Kết
- Giấy phép xuất bản số 26/GP-BC ngày 25/1/2007 của Bộ Văn hoá Thông tin về việc thiết lập trang báo điện tử
- Ṭa soạn và trị sự: 66 Bà Triệu - Hà Nội - ĐT: (04) 38228303 - FAX: (04) 38228547 - Email: toasoan@baodaidoanket.com.vn
- Đường dây nóng : (04) 39433164 - (08) 69327989).
CONTENT:
"Công hàm 1958 với chủ quyền Hoàng Sa và Trường Sa của Việt Nam (27/07/2011)
Gần đây Trung Quốc luôn rêu rao cái gọi là họ có chủ quyền không thể tranh căi đối với hai quần đảo Hoàng Sa và Trường Sa. Việc Trung Quốc diễn giải nội dung Công hàm ngày 14-9-1958 của Thủ tướng Phạm Văn Đồng như là một chứng cứ cho thấy Việt Nam đă công nhận chủ quyền của Trung Quốc đối với hai quần đảo Hoàng Sa và Trường Sa là hết sức phiến diện và xuyên tạc nội dung, ư nghĩa của bản Công hàm đó, hoàn toàn xa lạ với nền tảng pháp lư của Việt Nam cũng như luật pháp quốc tế, bất chấp thực tế khách quan của bối cảnh lịch sử đương thời. Có thể nói, giải thích xuyên tạc Công hàm 1958 là một trong chuỗi những hành động có tính toán nhằm tạo cớ, từng bước hợp thức hóa yêu sách chủ quyền phi lư của họ đối với hai quần đảo Hoàng Sa và Trường Sa của Việt Nam."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Commie-Chinese declaration in 1958:
On September 4, 1958, the Chinese Government proclaimed the breadth of its territorial sea to be twelve nautical miles which applied to to all territories of the PRC, "including ... the Dongsha Islands, the Xisha Islands, the Zhongsha Islands, the Nansha Islands..." Ten days later, Pham Van Dong stated in his note to Zhou Enlai that "the Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam recognizes and supports the declaration of the Government of the People's Republic of China on China's territorial sea made on September 4, 1958."
YES, THEY DID HAVE: "INCLUDING... ... XISHA ... NANSHA... " IN THAT DECLARATION BECAUSE ONE OF THE ISLANDS (IN THE FURTHEST NORTH-EST OF THE EAST-SEA) WAS OCCUPIED BY TAIWAN+USA, AND COMMIE-CHINESE KNEW THAT.
wnch
Dec 2 2011, 11:05 AM
^^ So are you supporting the Chinese claim or disputing it?
So many words, but not enough sense.
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