From BBC: In a separate Chinese editorial, Global Times appeals for China to "ignore" the Philippines diplomatically as a punishment for Manila's attempt to seek US support on the South China Sea dispute.

"Let the Philippines pay the real price," says the editorial, but it does not elaborate on how to carry out this policy.

The Editorial:

Philippines walking a very fine line

The Philippines has been making waves in the South China Sea of late. It has settled to refer to the disputed waters as the "West Philippine Sea," sent officials to claim sovereignty on a disputed island and called on ASEAN countries to form a united front against China. The cabinet members of the Philippines have boldly lashed out against China, publicizing that the US-Philippine military cooperation is a strong warning signal.

These Philippine provocations bring negative political influences to the region, although some of them are only pet "performance projects" of the Philippine government. China must take fitting measures to pay the Philippines back. This is necessary to prevent another country taking a leaf out of the Philippines' book against China.

Currently, a similar strategy is prevailing among other East Asian countries, that is, benefiting from economic cooperation with China as much as possible while containing China's influences by either joining with the US or forcing China to make concessions on disputed issues. The Philippines is carrying out such a strategy.

China' punishment on the Philippines should be strong enough to offset negative influences brought by the Philippine insolence and discourage the dream of some nations to join with the US to contain China.

The pressure of domestic opinion is no excuse to forgive the Philippines' irresponsible behavior. The Philippines' unfavorable attitude toward China will not change quickly, but as long as punishing the Philippines does not affect the steady relations between China and other neighboring countries, the Philippines has fewer cards to play than China in the long run.

China's punishment on the Philippines should not go overboard, but should let the Philippines pay the real price. The best way is to ignore the Philippines when China is intensifying cooperation with other Southeast Asian countries.

Economic means are the first choice. China could postpone the implementation of investment agreements. Chinese people could reject traveling to the Philippines and China should decrease imports from the Philippines. China is the third largest trading partner of the Philippines and this would be a grievous blow indeed. As a country whose GDP per capita is only about $2,000, the Philippines expects much from China to stimulus its economic growth. Any slowdown in Sino-Philippine cooperation will put long-term pressure on the country.

Meanwhile, China should enhance cooperation with countries like Ma-laysia and Indonesia, allowing them to benefit more from the Philippine vacuum.

China has no intention to have a military clash toward the Philippines. But it should prepare to strike back, if the Philippines makes the first armed move. China's punishment against the Philippines should also be convincing. Shocking neighboring countries might be inevitable, but China needs to be both careful and decisive.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID...-fine-line.aspx

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LOL President Aquino's really going overboard. Every time he goes OUT OF THE COUNTRY, he uses his injudicious TACTICS like talking about the Nansha Qundao/Kalayaan.

Even other Asians are now chastising the Philippine government for sucking it up to Americans. The white-worship OF THE PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT is now too extreme for comfort. Philippine editorials and media (particularly Philippine Star and some editorials of the Inquirer) are all anti-Chinese and love to pepper their papers with news, even minor ones, about the Nansha Qundao/Kalayaan. Chinese-Filipinos cannot live in this government and media full of cheap anti-Chinese rhetoric.

Aquino should REFRAIN from talking about the Nansha Qundao/Kalayaan EXCEPT with other claimants.

His invitation of a multilateral talks INVOLVING THE UNITED STATES is seriously disrupting the harmony in Asia and HAMPERING THE RISE OF ASIA VIS-A-VIS CHINA.

If China pulls out of the Philippines, the United States won't be there either way to prop up the shaken country. U.S.'s interests in the Philippines is a fake one - they do NOT really aim to help the Philippines; instead, they hope to LORD THEMSELVES OVER ASIA.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT VIRTUALLY ALL FILIPINOS are FEROCIOUSLY PRO-AMERICAN (based on their Yahoo comments) and that MOST really believe that the PH owns the Nansha Qundao because of the UNCLOS (1982). LOL How can a law REPEAL SOVEREIGNTY ESTABLISHED 1800 YEARS AGO?

The best deal that the Philippines can get from China is a joint administration of Nansha/Kalayaan. The worst deal is also like that - a joint administration.

The best deal that the Philippines can get from the US is a small chunk of the Nansha/Kalayaan territory with the rest being kept from the USA. The worst deal would be that the USA gets to control NOT ONLY the entirety of Nansha/Kalayaan BUT ALSO OF THE PHILIPPINES AND OF ASIA.


If the USA killed 1/3 of the Philippine population from 1898-1901 WITHOUT ANY REMORSE OR GUILT, it can do THE SAME with the Philippines again,

I wonder why Pinoys mistrust China VERY MUCH, considering that China NEVER occupied Philippines, while Americans and Spaniards occupied the country for 400 years.

True enough, the Chinese government should show its displeasure to the Philippine government for BEING VERY PRO-AMERICAN TO THE POINT OF SURRENDERING SOVEREIGNTY TO THE YANKS. LOL. The EXTREME ARROGANCE of the Philippine government (in the form of inviting American soldiers to the country without plebiscite) is already very annoying.

Mao Zedong stood in the Tiananmen Square in 1949 and said "The Chinese People have stood up". On the contrary, the Filipino People have never stood up - instead it's propped up by Uncle Sam on its shoulders. Little did the "Brown Brother" know that Uncle Sam is just using him for an agenda - the eventual capture of Asia and of China, and the enslavement of all non-White peoples, particularly that of the Asiatic peoples.

you're still not chinese lol

after months, i thought that AF would have changed a bit.. trying to look at Fil chat, it is as if Fil chat is a lonely desert. looking closely again, i realized that the Fil chat is STILL PLAGUED with garbage posts, started by people in the person of ejay and ocrap. SAD

I can't help but react against the rabid mudslinging done against Pinoys. if you are so dedicated to spreading "The Word", you would have done it in a forum where there are A LOT OF PINOY(e.g. pex?).... but the INTENTIONS FOR POSTING THINGS SUCH AS THIS CRAP is QUITE OBVIOUS. the INTENDED AUDIENCE is VERY OBVIOUS AS WELL


there's really nothing wrong with that, if it was really true.
may you please give me a list of his travels abroad and may you please give the links about ALL, and i repeat it, ALL of aquino's appointments abroad that mention him talking about Kalayaan Group of Islands, Republic of the Philippines


if you do, i would stand corrected.



the only asian chastising the PHL i ever heard of is those in prc(and some from the PHL and US)--and they come from one ethnic group, i guess. again, correct me by providing links. such help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.



lol AGAIN OCRAP, you turned the writer's OPINION into a RACIST ONE. this has nothing to do with the chinese in the PHL who mostly are legally staying and have secured a citizenship in this country. even one chinese asked what the hell are chinese fishing boats doing in the waters owned by the PHL.

the anti-chinese rhetoric you're talking about is just a response to the Kalayaan issue, it's not a racial one, for heaven's sake. the more you talk, the clearer your intentions become.

now who wants to turn the Pinoys against the chinese in the PHL or vice versa? the answer is pretty obvious xD



these two countries are the same. what the F are you saying.



LOL, as if ALL, or even MAJORITY of PINOYS have access to the internet... I BET THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN on this issue. they're busy with ramgen and tsismis. these pinoys who comment are probably those who have their eyes opened.



to ensure that there is equal distribution of privileges involving the administration of the islands and exploitation of these resources, a third party should be present and the third party should not necessarily be usa.

but then again, geography and int'l law would allow the PHL to exploit the resources from the small part the PHL claims.



this one is flawed. then the Pinoys should not trust anyone outside their country(i.e. foreigners, non-brown/black people)!
the chinese did not murder? remember their revolts? they MURDERED a bunch of indios. they can do the same again.
the prc bombed vietnamese ships, it can do the same with the PHL.

i am not trying to promote your china-us-phl bullcrap but i'm just using it as an analogy.



you don't need to worry, you're chinese, right? i'm sure your beloved prc will take care of you once they are done "punishing" the Pinoys.

LOL talking about SOVEREIGNTY? you're a hypocrite, you once expressed your delight and agreement that china and the PHILIPPINES should have a joint military exercise in MY COUNTRY.

you're in no position to preach about sovereignty.


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I don't know when i'll have time to visit this poor Filipino chat infested with unwanted users, but i hope when i return... they're gone

Blood before politics. The truth is that Asians should only trust Asians. The truth is that the West has done fare more harm to PH than China ever could.

Even Philippinos are getting angry at the US:
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=309461

I'm glad there are pinoys with open eyes.

Keep thanking the US soldiers in PH while they rape innocent Filippino girls. They obviously don't respect Asians because they rape S. Koreans and Japanese too. This is boiled down to race. The west can never truly view us as equals, they can only use us against each other. The history of Whites and Asians can be summed up by military bases and rape. Asia is just one big whorehouse to them.

I can't believe how easily manipulated people are.

A lot of PEXers are a lost cause, devoted to America and its evil.

Mudslinging against Pinoys? NO! MORE LIKE MUDSLINGING AGAINST UNPATRIOTIC FILIPINOS WHO SUCK IT UP TO AMERICANS, YES!



LOL. I have no time to do so, but in EACH and EVERY TIME he went abroad or talked to a foreign diplomat, the Nansha/Spratlys are ALWAYS part of the discussion, as if those foreign powers would have anything to do with the disputed islands.

He talked about it in the US, in Singapore, in Brunei, in Vietnam, in Indonesia, and LOL, even in Japan.

This is way too overboard. Aquino makes it look like he's the one appointed by all other claimants to talk about the disputed islands against China.



You know, NOT ALL ASIAN countries like China, but that does NOT mean that all of them like the US to interfere. Aquino's PUPPY-LIKE PLEADINGS to the UNITED STATES is SOOO PATHETIC. He's literally inviting the US to the scene when NOT ALL membes would like that to happen.

Sure, they might not like China's tactics in handling the Spratlys, but it does NOT mean that they want the US in.

In fact, the East Asian Summit gave a lukewarm reception to Aquino's plan, with ASEAN Sec-Gen Surin Pitsuwan (a Thai national) chastising Aquino saying that THERE IS NO NEED TO BRING OUTSIDERS TO THE NANSHA/KALAYAAN QUESTION. That, in fact, is a slap in the fact from other ASEAN members, who are short of saying "Mr. Aquino, STOP BRINGING IN FOREIGNERS TO OUR REGION"!!!



Oh yeah?

How come the media refers to "Chinese people" when talking about the alleged mismanagement of Philippine Airlines, the alleged smuggling, and the alleged giving of bribery".... and yet talk about "Filipinos" who WON NUMEROUS INTERNATIONAL CONTESTS RECENTLY and that "all Filipinos should be proud of them"

Cheap talk from cheap media outlets. LOL Apparently NEARLY ALL OF those students they described as "Filipino have Chinese surnames and are from Chinese schools. Hahahaha.

Selective racism coming from Philippine media, the BASTION OF FREE PRESS IN ASIA.

When referring to ethnic Chinese of Philippine nationality who allegedly did criminal activities, the media refers to them as "Chinese", and yet when ethnic Chinese of Philippine nationality wins a robotics competition, aces an international math or science event, or represents the country in an academic event, they are referred to as "Filipinos". Is this really called FREE PRESS?!?!?! More like institutional racism. Even COMMUNIST China's newspapers don't get as biased as that!

Their agenda is to make the middle class Filipino readers anti-Chinese.Very, very obvious, considering that many media owners are Spanish Mestizos who were dislodged from their high society status by the richer and more powerful Chinoys. Sour-graping White people. Hihihi.



Oh no. China's investments in the country are large - expressways, infrastructures, information technology, all designed to give the locals jobs they badly need - jobs that even the government won't provide.

U.S., on the other hand, did not give Philippines independence UNTIL IT LASSOED ALL RESOURCES. Even then, Parity Rights after independence meant that Americans controlled much of the resources of the Philippines.

You know, ONLY FELLOW ASIANS WILL GIVE A DAMN FOR ASIANS. The reason why China won't let the Philippines down is because it has a stake in its development. The fact that it is one of the parties advocating a pan-East Asian economic union means that HINDI ILALAGLAG NG TSINA ANG PILIPINAS, kasi magiging TALI NA SIYA. Kuha mo?



LOL. You call Pro-American Filipinos as having their eyes OPENED?!?!?!

What future will the country have if these people were to lead the Philippines? Have the country, its people, and its resources SUFFER ANOTHER 500 YEARS OF WHITE IMPERIALISM, this time through the Americans?



CHINA already offered joint administration to the PHILIPPINES. And yet, the Philippines doesn't want to, despite the fact that its' SHAKY CLAIM dates ONLY TO 1956, in contrast to China's, which dates as early as 110 AD, during the Han Dynasty.

Again, UNCLOS, a law written on 1982, canNOT repeal the sovereignty of a nation established two thousand years before!

A third party need NOT be present, because the ONLY COUNTRIES that have the right to the Nansha Qundao/Kalayaan are as follows: 1) CHINA, by virtue of history, 2) PHILIPPINES, by virtue of geography, and 3) VIETNAM, again by virtue of history. These three countries will serve as counterbalances to each other.

If the Philippines (Aquino III) is REALLY, REALLY AIMING TO GET "WHAT BELONGS TO THE PHILIPPINES", then why does it NOT go for SABAH and GUAM? The answer is ridiculously simple. It WANTS TO PLAY and make SAWSAW IN THE U.S.-CHINA FEUD. Aquino III knows that for now, the Spratlys is the easiest to claim because U.S. will support the Philippines AGAINST China. LOL. What country on its right mind will support dismembering Malaysia, anyways?!?!?!



LOL. And whom should YOU trust? The MALAYSIANS who grabbed Sabah? The INDONESIANS who grabbed Kalimantan Utara and Miangas Islands? These are BROWN PEOPLES, and yet THEY HAD A PART IN THE DISMEMBERING of the PHILIPPINES. Even Moro rebels are being supported by BROWN MALAYS.

Oh yeah? It's the CHINESE who were killed. Killed by no other than the LOCAL FILIPINOS:
"At least 30,000 Chinese merchants were slaughtered and in Luzon Chinese officials and civilians were killed without authority by what The Ming Shi-lu describes as the barbarian (Spanish) chieftain of Luzon during that time." - Chinese Revolt of 1603.
"Fearing an invasion of Chinese led by the famous pirate Koxinga, the garrisons around Manila were reinforced. An increasing anti-Chinese sentiment grew within much of the population. In the end, the invasion did not materialize, but many locals massacred hundreds of Chinese in the Manila area." - Chinese Revolt of 1662.

This repeated itself in both Malaysia and Indonesia, during the Malaya Race Riots and 1998 Anti-Chinese Indonesian Riots. Seems LIKE THE MALAY RACES HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST THE CHINESE. LOL. Kinda obvious.

Yeah, PRC bombed Viet ships because of Viet offensive against PRC-backed Cambodia. You see, China won't be an enemy unless you PROVOKE IT. And now, the Philippine government is PROVOKING CHINA REALLY BAD. Not only China, but also the ethnic Chinese in the Philippines, who are victims of maligning by a loquacious media and by an inept government who are unable to jail politicians who are in cahoots with kidnappers aiming for some cold cash.

If the Philippine government were really sincere in trying to assimilate the Chinoys (and even other minorities), it should allocate AT LEAST ONE SENATE SEAT EACH for the Chinese, Cordillera peoples, and the Muslim Filipinos. Not only that, Chinese should be a Constitutional Language, together with Spanish and Arabic (which are already Constitutional Languages as of today). Also, Chinese holidays and Muslim holidays must be declared as OFFICIAL PUBLIC NON-WORKING HOLIDAYS. Most importantly, however, is the setting-up of checkers against racist comments in the media and sacking of policemen and politicians who are found guilty of money-related crimes such as kidnapping.

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Anyway, back to YOUR discussion "it can do the same with the PHL" - the fact is that THROUGHOUT HISTORY CHINA NEVER SOUGHT PHILIPPINE TERRITORY NOT ATTACKED THE FILIPINO PEOPLE (unlike what YOUR Western allies, the Spanish and Yankees did), so REST ASSURED that the Chinese respected the Filipino people. They NEVER RAPED OR TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE PINOYS LIKE WHAT WESTERNERS DID. Heck, those Westerners even raped the NATIVE PINOY CULTURE to the point that today, most Westerners are like despite the debauchery they did with this country. There is NO INDICATION that the Chinese would want Filipino territory even.



Philippine government does NOT necessarily refer to Pinoys.

Oh yes, I have NO RESERVATIONS REGARDING A JOINT MILITARY EXERCISE BETWEEN TWO ASIAN COUNTRIES, BETWEEN TWO COUNTRIES OF THE SAME RACE, BETWEEN TWO OF MY COUNTRIES. Hahaha.

Sovereignty resides within the people. Therefore, sovereignty resides within me, too.

It's OK, I never viewed Westerners as equal to me, anyway. LOL. Even Chinese, ancient Japanese, and ancient Koreans ALL view Westerners as barbarians and inferior to them. I am a staunch advocate of East Asian supremacy, anyways. East Asian here referring to both NEA and SEA.

Yep, true, Westerners only think of Asians as whores. They should be given a taste of their own medicine once we Asians finally destroy their false delusions of superiority.

I have to agree with the negrito OP...filipinos need to stop sucking up to whites
if you wanna know the true motives of whites....they would like nothing better then to exterminate filipinos from the Philippines and use it as a private resort for the caucasian race

Nah, they'd probably rather use us as slaves to do all the $hit they don't wanna do.

I don't believe any "race" is evil by nature though. Let Karma sort out the angels from the devils, it's only a matter of time.

Still would rather filipinos stop being so dependent on uncle sam and grow a backbone

Definitely.

It's happening. The mind is a self righting mechanism, you can only convince people of their "inferiority" for so long.

TOKYO—Japan's prime minister plans to present a subtle challenge to China at a weekend summit by pressing fellow Asian leaders to focus more on maritime security, a discussion opposed by an increasingly assertive Beijing.

At the East Asia Summit in Indonesia that starts Saturday, Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda will greet leaders from the Philippines, India and Vietnam—all countries that have signed new military pacts with Japan in recent months. Though he is unlikely to confront China directly, Mr. Noda's stance underscores his country's moves to expand security ties with neighbors in a region once highly suspicious of Japan's military role.

"We think that it is important for the participating countries to confirm the importance to abide by the international rules to ensure freedom of navigation, especially regarding international law of the sea," Noriyuki Shikata, a spokesman for Mr. Noda, said in an interview Thursday.

While Mr. Shikata declined to say whether Japan's maritime focus was aimed specifically at China, Beijing has opposed having it on the agenda, after a year in which Japan and other nations have engaged in territorial disputes with Asia's largest nation.

The summit follows a flurry of military diplomacy by Japan around the region, including a series of bilateral defense pacts.

Earlier this month, Japanese Defense Minister Yasuo Ichikawa and his Indian counterpart agreed to conduct joint naval exercises for the first time in 2012. In a statement released by Japan's Defense Ministry, the sides said they "recognized the importance of sea lanes and decided to actively pursue consultations and cooperation in the field of maritime security." That expanded a security pact launched in 2008.

In October, Tokyo signed a memorandum of understanding with the visiting Vietnamese defense minister enhancing security cooperation between the two countries. The previous month, Prime Minister Noda announced a new "strategic partnership" with visiting Philippine President Benigno Aquino III to bolster dialogue between defense-related authorities. Kazuhisa Shimada, director of the defense policy division at the Ministry of Defense, said Tokyo and Manila could start small-scale joint naval exercises next year.

"We have not necessarily worked hard enough on such areas until now," Mr. Shimada said in an interview earlier this month. "Given the current security environment, conducting such training exercises bilaterally or on a multilateral level is going to be very meaningful in the sense of promoting regional cooperative relations."

Following decades of near-isolation under the American security umbrella, Japan had in recent years been gradually expanding its ties with neighbors, including many—such as Vietnam and the Philippines—that it invaded and occupied during World War II.

Japan signed its first defense memorandum in Southeast Asia with Singapore in 2009. The moves appear to have accelerated after a September 2010 standoff with Beijing over the contested archipelago known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China.

"A lot of it frankly is because the Chinese have shaken the Japanese out of their complacency," said Michael Green, a Japan expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

The archipelago dispute is similar to others in the South China Sea. The Philippines and China both lay claim to the Spratly Islands, an island chain in the South China Sea that geologists say may lie atop significant oil and gas deposits. Vietnam, which also claims part of the Spratly chain, has likewise complained of China's increasingly assertive approach in the region.

"I think that as Japan has consulted with various countries like the Philippines, Vietnam and India and so forth they're all finding out that they're all on the receiving end of a Chinese strategy which aims at pushing China's maritime sphere outward," said Mr. Green. "That has spurred them towards a more strategic cooperation."

The spreading defense alliances also follow the drafting of Japan's national defense guidelines approved last December, which said Tokyo would pursue "more active utilization of Japan's diplomatic and defense capability." It also was the first time the guidelines, last revised in 2004, raised the notion of fostering ties with neighboring countries.

Japanese officials stress that they envision their role in smoothing regional disputes as mainly diplomatic, not military. Issues like "safety of the sea lanes and freedom of navigation in the region" are "a matter of concern for all of us and this needs to be made quite clear," Kimihiro Ishikane, deputy director-general of the Foreign Ministry's Asian and Oceanian Affairs, said in an interview.

BEIJING—In a major test of its new, proactive Asia policy, the U.S. appears to have scored a diplomatic victory over China by forcing the contentious issue of the South China Sea onto the agenda of a regional summit despite Beijing's public objections.

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao reluctantly discussed the issue with 17 other leaders at the East Asia Summit in Bali, Indonesia, on Saturday while restating China's position that it was an inappropriate forum to address the matter, according to U.S. and Chinese official accounts of the meeting.

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao is welcomed upon arrival to Brunei Sunday following his trip to Indonesia.

A senior U.S. administration official said Mr. Wen broached the issue, sounding "a little bit grouchy at first," after U.S. President Barack Obama and seven other leaders raised it directly. Seven other leaders talked about the broader problem of maritime security at a two-hour leaders' retreat.

Only Cambodia and Myanmar raised neither subject, the official said.

China's state-run Xinhua news agency quoted Mr. Wen saying: "I don't want to discuss this issue at the summit. However, leaders of some countries mentioned China on the issue. It's impolite not to make a return for what one receives. So, I am willing to reiterate China's stance."
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The U.S. official said he detected some signs of greater flexibility in Mr. Wen's remarks, but a Xinhua commentary published Saturday indicated no change in policy. Some experts said Mr. Wen may have just toned down his language as a face-saving way out of the confrontation.

China has long maintained that territorial disputes over the South China Sea—where its claims overlap with those of Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei—should be resolved bilaterally with each of the claimants, one by one. The U.S. and its allies in the region have been pushing for a multilateral approach that they say will help smaller countries counteract what they see as China's more assertive diplomacy and its growing military power.

Beijing is particularly wary of other countries getting involved, especially the U.S., and was infuriated last year when U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton declared in a speech in Vietnam that the U.S. had a national interest in freedom of navigation in the South China Sea.

The regional backlash gathered momentum this year after China was involved in a series of incidents at sea, and heated diplomatic exchanges, with Vietnam and the Philippines, which has a mutual defense treaty with the U.S.

To help reassure the U.S.'s Asian allies, Mr. Obama unveiled plans last week to refocus U.S. foreign policy on the Asia-Pacific region and to bolster the U.S military presence there by stationing up to 2,500 Marines in Australia.

As a result, the South China Sea issue loomed large at last week's meetings of the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations and of the broader East Asia Summit, which also includes the U.S., China, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, India and Russia.

Mr. Obama was the first U.S. president to attend the East Asia Summit., but the U.S. official denied that he had lobbied other attendees to put the South China Sea on the agenda.

The official said five Asean members—Singapore, Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Thailand—as well as Australia and India raised the South China Sea directly, while Russia, Indonesia and five others talked about maritime security.

Mr. Obama spoke after them, outlining the U.S. position on the South China Sea, and Mr. Wen asked for the floor after him, the official said.

"I would say that even though he started off maybe a little bit grouchy, by and large it was very measured and interesting—I would say a positive intervention," the U.S. official said.

The official said he was encouraged that Mr. Wen advocated resolving the issue through dialogue with claimant countries but didn't mention the word "bilaterally" as Chinese officials normally do when discussing the matter.

He also said that Mr. Wen had said China wanted to move toward agreeing to a code of conduct in the South China Sea, without saying "at the appropriate time" or "when circumstances are propitious" as per usual.

However, China's Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the subject, and Chinese state media gave no indication of a change of policy.

A commentary published by Xinhua on its website Saturday repeated China's longstanding position that the South China Sea disputes were a bilateral issue between Beijing and the other claimants.

"However, the U.S. failed to show due respect for China's position on the issue and insisted on bringing the controversial topic to the 10+8 summit for discussion 'in general terms,'" it said.

"Any attempt by outside forces to internationalize the issue will only make it more complicated and undermine peace and stability in the region."

Patrick Cronin, senior director of the Asia-Pacific Security Program at the Center for New American Security, said China was unlikely to change its approach to the issue.

"China has tacked back and forth," he said. "When it senses the region ganging up and balancing against China, it has become more accommodating but that accommodation has never had traction or enforcement. They move away and try again to deal bilaterally."

He said the 45-page statement coming out of the East Asia Summit included only generic language about the South China Sea, saying the nations involved will work on identifying key principles on an eventual code of conduct.

The TS is just talking BS

He doesn't know the real score



BEIJING—China on Friday sounded a note of caution about ongoing political reform in Myanmar, a longtime ally that has pushed back against Beijing in recent months amid tensions over aggressive Chinese resource investment within its underdeveloped neighbor.

An announcement that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would visit the country next month signals a preliminary U.S. inroad into the poor, yet strategically important, country. That comes as Beijing appears increasingly isolated politically from many of its other neighbors as well.

Beijing is embroiled in territorial disputes with neighbors in the South China Sea. The U.S. has deepened cooperation with Vietnam, another of China's southern neighbors, which has emerged as one of the most vociferous opponents of Beijing's maritime push into Southeast Asia.

It also faces growing questions over its respect for the sovereignty of neighbors following an aggressive push to send armed security forces to patrol the Mekong River in areas outside China's borders.

At a daily press briefing on Friday, Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin called for stability amid political reform in Myanmar. "We would like to see China and other Western countries enhance contact with Myanmar and improve their relations," said Mr. Liu. "At the same time, we also hope the domestic and foreign policies of Myanmar are conducive to peace and stability in Myanmar."

A senior Obama administration official said China had been consulted about recent U.S. dealing with Myanmar, which is also known as Burma. "Engagement with Burmese leaders by the United States does not come at the expense of China or China's relationship with Burma," the official said, adding that the administration believes the new outreach comes because Myanmar's leaders "recognize that the cockpit of global prosperity is in the Asian-Pacific region, and they're not playing."

Analysts say China's ongoing struggle to win favor among its neighbors is in part caused by contradictions in China's foreign policy. Even as Beijing promotes a "peaceful rise" narrative, its aggressive moves to secure territory and resources is breeding mistrust among smaller neighbors.

Mrs. Clinton "truly got fed up with China's actions in the region," said Zhu Feng, a professor of international relations at Peking University in Beijing. At the same time, China has struggled to win respect from its neighbors even as it has emerged as a critical trade partner for most countries in the region, he said.

Mrs. Clinton's visit to the country next month will be the first by a U.S. secretary of state in more than 50 years. Myanmar last year held its first election in decades, and its military-backed government has pledged to deepen political reform.

Myanmar's location on the Bay of Bengal is of economic and geostrategic importance to China. The countries are building an oil and natural-gas pipeline from the bay through Myanmar and into southwestern China. The project is a key part of Beijing's efforts to diversify its sources of fuel and protect itself from possible shipping disruptions in the Malacca Strait, long a U.S. Navy choke point.

China's concerns over a U.S. military presence in the region have risen this week following Mr. Obama's pledge to bolster the U.S. military's strength across the Asia-Pacific.

Cracks have formed in recent months between Myanmar and China. In late September, Myanmar President Thein Sein ordered a suspension of construction of the $3.6 billion China-backed Myitsone dam project, which would have flooded an area roughly the size of Singapore. The move was widely seen as a snub to China and a conciliatory move by the country's new government toward political dissidents who had long opposed the project.

Recent questions have also emerged over how China will balance a need to protect commercial interests across the region with respect for its neighbors' sovereignty. After 13 Chinese sailors were murdered on two cargo ships traveling along the Mekong River in Thailand last month, China said it was considering sending armed patrols down the Mekong River outside its borders.

Chinese officials say they are negotiating joint security cooperation together with Laos, Myanmar and Thailand, but analysts say China's neighbors are leery of a sustained armed presence inside their territories.

America is not even white, plus when i was in the phil the only white people i saw there where Aussies

TRUE: America NOW is not White anymore. Although Stormfronters claim it to be a White nation because it was founded by White people and it's still a place where White values exist and flourish.

In terms of population it is NOT White, but in terms of the RULING CLASSES, America is as White as European countries can be. WASPs still form the backbone of the American nation.

In an article talking about the STATE VISIT OF THE KOREAN PRESIDENT...


LOL. There are really a lot of rabidly anti-Chinese Pinoys (and most of them are also unabashedly Pro-American).



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And a famous anti-Chinese racist jingle not too long ago:
"Intsik bulintsik, bumaba sa lupa, kumain ng hopiya, umakyat sa langit, kumain ng pansit. Intsik intsik, alis Intsik".
(Translation: 'Chinaman with small eyes, went down to earth, ate hopia, went up to heaven, ate pancit. Chinaman. Chinaman. Go away, Chinaman.")

lol @ ocraps sig


showing chinese protesters....as if hes actually chines....lol


ocrap

it been proven already

lol

why do you still try

Erm...

The protesters aren't even Chinese... they're Okinawans (i.e., Japanese).

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The Kanji characters "日本" already serve as a give-away there. If only you knew at least some Chinese characters. Tsk tsk.

still - what business do you have in japanese/chinese whatever affairs

we all know you are a malay filipino just sticking his nose into other peoples business.

its been proven from about 25 diffferent angles already that you arent chinse, nor are you spanish lol

Oh. Have you not recovered yet from your LOW SELF-ESTEEM?!?!

Sorry, but I really am of Chinese (mostly) and some Spanish and Tagalog ancestry, even a very distant Japanese ancestor. Jealous much? Hahaha. LOOL.

lmao

say hi to your pango chinese relatives for me ok?




do we need more evidence of you lying once again?

was your school just filipino, chinese and koreans?

great now ocraps disappeared again

ocrap aka minh77 is filipino-spanish/mexican-korean and now hes claiming japanese now?the guy is so confusing of his identity IDK why...?

LOL. Minh is probably a Chinese-Vietnamese..

I never claimed to be Korean. LOL.

lol i didnt even read that japanese part til now haha!

Ocraps supposed ethnicity chart:

Chinese 90%
Spanish 8%
Japanese 1%
Korean 0.5%
Greek 0.3%
German 0.1%
Italian 0.05%
French 0.04%
Filipino 0.01%


Ocraps real ethnicity chart

Filipino 100%

you forgot mongolian...ocrap likes to fancy himself as altaic

Rehazedskies / Ejay: Someone who wishes that he was Altaic / Northeast Asian but in reality is a mixture of Austronesian and Australoid. Boohoo.




Pommop / Moppom / Pinkcream : Someone who claims to be Filipino but in reality is an Australian (who just happens to have a Filipina mom) sticking into the business of true Filipinos. Boohoo.

ocrapdm's proposed racial qualities: chinese,korean,japanese,mongolian and spanish

ocrapdm's real racial reality:Remontado

LOL ocrap I don't know if you could blend in any of those countries you fancy yourself as


hell you don't even look more mongoloid then some of the people you consider negrito as

Hahaha.

Or rather,
Ejay's proposed racial make-up: 50% Ami, 50% Chinese-Korean

Ejay's real racial make-up: 70% Daic, 30% Ati. BOOHOO. SOUR GRAPING. Can't accept reality.

so ocrap who between the negrito on the bottom or your pic looks more asian

I laughed when you said you looked hispanic...I didn't know you were actually telling the truth

My pic, huh? LOL. Where did you get the idea that I'm that person there?!?! Hahaha. I have a feeling that that's you. LOL.

ANYWAY, in keeping with the thread's topic, CHINESE NEW YEAR was recently declared a National Holiday of the Philippines!

I came across it in an anonymous forum you probably go to
its because this person was claiming to be chinese with minimal spanish..like you

and ranting about lowlanders like you do

you didn't answer my question...who between your pic and the woman you claim is negrito in the 2nd pic looks more asian??

LOL. And so? Millions of Filipinos with self-hatred CLAIM TO BE CHINESE and SPANISH mixtures. I have come across several of them - some are even my classmates. LOL. LOL. No shame at all. No love for their Pinoy heritage at all.

Lowlanders? You see, my objective here is to just inform Filipinos LIKE YOU that ON AVERAGE, FILIPINOS are 70% East Asian and 30% Australoid. AND AGAIN, for the UMPTEENTH TIME, the 30% here is NOT Negrito, but Proto-Ainuid (who resembles Dumagat people).

It's NOT my pic, and I did agree that the 2nd pic woman looks Asian. She is DEFINITELY NOT the Average Filipina! Hahaha.

If this woman below is an AVERAGE FILIPINA:
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then I might as well claim that the AVERAGE CHINESE looks like this:


Hahahaha.

how could she look asian if she is 50% negrito-papuan-australian aboriginal..lile you claim she was

so you agree that the 2nd woman looks more asian then your pic...it totally contradicts what you say though...shouldn't you look more asian considering your the one with majority chinese ancestry and that woman is just a papuan-negrito hybrid visayan??

Uhm, can't you understand?

Yeah, the AVERAGE FILIPINA is 70% Mongo-30% Austro. HOWEVER, THAT WOMAN (in the pic) is DEFINITELY NOT AN "AVERAGE" FILIPINA. EVERYONE from a Pinoy schoolteacher to a US Army soldier doing R-N-R in Subic KNOWS THAT. As I said, Filipinos fall in a Mongo-Austro spectrum, with some being very Mongoloid, and some being very Australoid - but the VAST MAJORITY of Filipinos are in between.

If FILIPINOS are 90-100% MONGOLOID as YOU WANT TO CLAIM, then we'll have HARD TIME DIFFERENTIATING NATIVE FILIPINOS from the LOCAL CHINESE and LOCAL KOREANS. And the fact is, WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW WHO IS A CHINESE/KOREAN AND WHO IS NOT! Hahaha.

Yeah, of course, I DEFINITELY SHOULD LOOK MORE ASIAN THAN THE WOMAN YOU POSTED. Unfortunately, the random picture which you got from some anonymous forum is NOT ME. In that case then, why should that OBVIOUSLY URBAN FILIPINO guy look MONGOLOID? DUH. Hahaha.

your pic should look more mongoloid because you yourself claimed you manilenos are more mongoloid on average then rural folk

and no need to deny that isn't you...you yourself said you looked hispanic looking even though you were majority cchinese

how about you post your other pic and compare it with that woman,,,since you supposedly look more mongolod then that woman you claim is a hybrid papuan-negrito

we can make a thread about it in picture chat

subic aka southern luzon is negritoesville...they are your people...of course anyone who goes to subic will come back with the idea that filipinos look remontado if all they saw where a bunch of little black ocraps running around

actually local chinese in the Philippines blend in with filipinos...sorry ocrap the people you wish to be don't look like the korean tourists
its quite easy to tell the korean tourists from the local chinese-filipinos...very easy

100% southern chinese-filipino Amy Chua doesn't exactly look NEAsian


she groups together with SEAsians....according to studies southern chinese group more often with SEAsians

I give her this though...Amy looks more believable chinese then your pic

Not just more Mongoloid but also more Hispanic, both being relative to the rural Filipinos. By urban, I refer to Manila, its nearby areas, AND the chief port-cities of the Visayas.

Having "SOME CAUCASIAN FEATURES" does not necessarily mean Hispanic looking. LOL.

Even a popular Chinese kid in the Philippines now, Timothy Lambert Chan (google it out) has VERY prominent CAUCASIAN features even though he is majority Chinese. LOL. Google it if you won't believe. I can tell you a lot more examples of Chinese who have CAUCASIAN features. This is due, as I 've said before, to the presence of a tiny proportion of Spanish genes in many "pure" Chinese-Filipinos. Many Makati-based Chinoys even look completely Caucasian because of White admixture. Wilfred Uytengsu Jr. is an example.



Again, that's not even my pic. I don't even look remotely like that guy. LOL.

His look though is what I call typical Urban Filipino look.

And as I said, YOUR cousin probably leans toward the Mongoloid side of the spectrum. Simply because she is not AVERAGE FILIPINA to begin with.

If you claim Chinese-looking people to be average Filipina, then I might as well claim White looking people to be average Chinese, after all Uygurs and other White looking people in China are considered Chinese according to the doctrine of 中華民族.



Subic is not even Southern Luzon. Subic is Central Luzon. The reason why there are a lot of Pure Negritos roaming around there is because the Luzonians from Taiwan didn't intermix much with them, but with the Proto-Ainuid instead (which is why North and Central Luzon people are only 30% Austra), compared to the Visayas which is NO Negritos left anymore because they intermarried with the Negritos (and the Proto-Ainuids), almost eradicating them. LOL.

Remontado is NOT even linked with Negritos or in Subic. Subic Negritos (more properly called Bataan Aeta) faces the South China Sea, while the territory of Remontados face Laguna Lake and the Pacific Ocean. LOL



Yeah, it's VERY easy to tell Korean tourists from the local Chinese-Filipinos, I agree. NOT BECAUSE of their FACIAL FEATURES, but because of the way they dress. Koreans dress flamboyantly, even back home in Korea. LOL. On the other hand, both Mainland Chinese and local Chinese dress more conservatively. Which is why it's hard to distinguish between the Mainland and local Chinese. Except for the accent. Mainlanders speak fast and very nasal Hokkien with Mandarin colloquialisms, while the local Chinese speak slow and very guttural Hokkien with early 1900 slang words!

Amy Chua might not look exactly like Korean or Japanese, but compared to the average Filipina, she's a THOUSAND TIMES closer to Koreans and Japanese. LOL.

Hahaha. Local Chinese don't blend it at all with Filipinos. I am talking about the local Chinese who are pure though - for the Chinese mestizos, of course many of them can blend. Some Chinese mestizos I know even look very average Filipino. A local Chinese will certainly stand out in a squatters area composed of local Malays (aka average Filipino). Likewise, an average Filipino (and many Chinese Mestizos) will stand out as well in a sea of Chinese-Filipinos.,.... which is why chhut-si-ia (Chinese mestizos) aren't exactly favored among Chinoys. LOL.

Anyway, the problem with those studies claiming that SChi=SEA is that they test Cantonese people and claim they are representative for Southern Chinese - some Cantonese speakers are even ethnic Zhuang (not Southern Han Chinese). Even in the link I posted, Canto people have the most Austro-Asiatic and Australoid blood among Han, because they are the most southern of all Han groups. Some even test Yunnan people and Guangxi people and claim the samples to be from "Southern Chinese". Again, the Zhonghua Minzu is another confounding factor in labeling who is Chinese and who isn't. So obviously, the researchers link South Chinese with SEA peoples. Well, actually, mainland SEA peoples are somehow related to South Chinese, but not Malays / island SEA.

Let me tell you this... Hokkien people, who form 95% of local Chinese, are one of the purest Han ethnics, with Hokkien language being the closest to Middle Chinese. There are other issues involving Chinese ethnography but I'd rather not share it with non-Chinese peoples like you.

before we delve deeper into this, the first thing you have to answer is

a) why the fu-k have you still not answered that 1 simple chinese sentence the guy posted almost 3 months ago

b) wtf does "yo habla espanol" mean

and

c) was your school just chinese, koreans and filipinos?

LOL. I've already answered the guy after he posted. I already said that it was a typographical error or something like that. And I already said that it's Chinese, Korean, Filipino, Spanish mestizo.

So answer the question, why the f-uk are you b-tching again with the same questions?!?!?!

lmao

a) i dont recall you ever answering him; but i do recal him coming to the conclusion that you didntt speak chinese

b) wtf is yo habla espanol

c) so now there were spanish mestizos.....in your chinese school....? i suppose there were lots of nordic looking people in your school then ? [the spanish mestizos that went to chinese school ]


and on a side note:

d) what about those nordic looking chi-fils you claimed to have seen....

e) did you say hello to your pango chinese relatives

LOL. I'd rather stop replying to your sordid questions XP

You're really kinda weirdo.

lol, you never had a problem typing 5000 word essays on why filipinos werent chinese, and now you have problem answering these simple questions :O


lets forget about the not being able to speak chinese for now - you did anwer it although its obvious you're lying

lets just focus on


1) what does yo habla espanol mean

2) were there a lot of nordic looking people in your chinese school then?

3) did you ever say hello to your pango chinese relatives? after all, you did say they were pango