have any of you guys here seen asia newest video- number 41
dont you reckon that the girls that are supposedly representing the vietnamese ppl are bloody bimbos??????
they are a bunch of airheads that cant even speak the language of the country that they are representing,,,, makes me embarrass to even look at the screen
aye but u gota admit,, there are pretty hot viet chiks out there but the ones that entered that competition has no real brains *shame*
Full Version: vietnamese beauty pageants= bimbos
They speak worse than white people learning viet
lolx... haha...
thats pretty much the same with miss hong kongs...
thats pretty much the same with miss hong kongs...
what's the site 2 see the viet models. hehe alrite peace out
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Jan 3 2004, 03:57 PM)
They speak worse than white people learning viet
Hey hey now..no crackin on the white people learning Viet...you know..Asian people who are learning English don't exactly sound pleasant. :P
QUOTE (jenny2004 @ Apr 14 2004, 02:25 PM)
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Jan 3 2004, 03:57 PM)
They speak worse than white people learning viet
Hey hey now..no crackin on the white people learning Viet...you know..Asian people who are learning English don't exactly sound pleasant. :P
Yup, actually we should never bash anyone for attempting to learn another language. Learning a foreign language is difficult enough, but learning one that's in a differen language family as your own? Yikes
QUOTE (TNH @ Jan 3 2004, 01:53 AM)
have any of you guys here seen asia newest video- number 41
dont you reckon that the girls that are supposedly representing the vietnamese ppl are bloody bimbos??????
they are a bunch of airheads that cant even speak the language of the country that they are representing,,,, makes me embarrass to even look at the screen
aye but u gota admit,, there are pretty hot viet chiks out there but the ones that entered that competition has no real brains *shame*
dont you reckon that the girls that are supposedly representing the vietnamese ppl are bloody bimbos??????
they are a bunch of airheads that cant even speak the language of the country that they are representing,,,, makes me embarrass to even look at the screen
aye but u gota admit,, there are pretty hot viet chiks out there but the ones that entered that competition has no real brains *shame*
Hubbabab...that half-Viet/French girl was the hottest thing that I have ever seen. They speak alright and they have to have a lot of brains or they wouldn't have won their local and national competition to make it to Asia Entertainment Video. It showed all the ladies that have won pagents.
These pagents are a measure of both beauty and brains. Did you listen to some of their biographies. Doctors, lawyers, and the ocassional normal girl. Some of them have become so asimilated that they don't speak well at all but...look on the bright side...
I have not seen such lovely ladies in such a long time.
They are a shame to the Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese language is almost lost on the second generation. What were their parents thinking? English is more important than Vietnamese to them? Where is their identity and pride in their ancestrial tongue?
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 14 2004, 06:26 PM)
They are a shame to the Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese language is almost lost on the second generation. What were their parents thinking? English is more important than Vietnamese to them? Where is their identity and pride in their ancestrial tongue?
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
It's more of a small country Vs. big country status really. A language can only dominate if it's influencial OR it has many speakers. Vietnamese unfortunately is not big in terms of population size of economic size to become popular.
Unfortuntately, for many overseas Vietnamese like myself, we are unable to fluent communicate in our mother language, it's because where I live, English is paramount and fluency in it will get you places. My parents being practical has always emphaised both my sibilings and I to focus on English.
There is a degree of regret, but it's an inevitable occurance. Once you reach your 3rd generation, it's a tough ask for them to retain their Asian values/traditions, it's too much of a burden really. Look at those Japanese 4-6th generations in America or many of the Chinese in Australia from the gold rush days, the only thing Asian about them is their physique and facial features.
QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Apr 15 2004, 05:56 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 14 2004, 06:26 PM)
They are a shame to the Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese language is almost lost on the second generation. What were their parents thinking? English is more important than Vietnamese to them? Where is their identity and pride in their ancestrial tongue?
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
It's more of a small country Vs. big country status really. A language can only dominate if it's influencial OR it has many speakers. Vietnamese unfortunately is not big in terms of population size of economic size to become popular.
Unfortuntately, for many overseas Vietnamese like myself, we are unable to fluent communicate in our mother language, it's because where I live, English is paramount and fluency in it will get you places. My parents being practical has always emphaised both my sibilings and I to focus on English.
There is a degree of regret, but it's an inevitable occurance. Once you reach your 3rd generation, it's a tough ask for them to retain their Asian values/traditions, it's too much of a burden really. Look at those Japanese 4-6th generations in America or many of the Chinese in Australia from the gold rush days, the only thing Asian about them is their physique and facial features.
If Vietnam able to build up their economy and become a powerful economy power house, yes, vietnamese will become popular. And even if you browse the web, there are also option for you to use Vietnamese.
QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Apr 15 2004, 04:56 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 14 2004, 06:26 PM)
They are a shame to the Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese language is almost lost on the second generation. What were their parents thinking? English is more important than Vietnamese to them? Where is their identity and pride in their ancestrial tongue?
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
It's more of a small country Vs. big country status really. A language can only dominate if it's influencial OR it has many speakers. Vietnamese unfortunately is not big in terms of population size of economic size to become popular.
Unfortuntately, for many overseas Vietnamese like myself, we are unable to fluent communicate in our mother language, it's because where I live, English is paramount and fluency in it will get you places. My parents being practical has always emphaised both my sibilings and I to focus on English.
There is a degree of regret, but it's an inevitable occurance. Once you reach your 3rd generation, it's a tough ask for them to retain their Asian values/traditions, it's too much of a burden really. Look at those Japanese 4-6th generations in America or many of the Chinese in Australia from the gold rush days, the only thing Asian about them is their physique and facial features.
If you live in a foreign country, you use thier language in public but once back in your house, start speaking your own language... how hard is that..?
btw what language do you use to communicate with your parents???
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 15 2004, 06:08 AM)
If you live in a foreign country, you use thier language in public but once back in your house, start speaking your own language... how hard is that..?
btw what language do you use to communicate with your parents???
btw what language do you use to communicate with your parents???
At home, I speak Chinese but English to my siblings, I rarely talk to my parents. Even so, my Chinese standard is very poor and I can only get away with the basics. Peers and friends of mine can barely string together a sentence in their parents' native tongue.
Tradition is good to an extent, but it can hinter self development in others. I had friends on the other extreme where they used Vietnamese as often as they could and promoted its usage even at school, for some bizarre reason they resented using English and only as a last resort. At school, the only time they spoke English was to non-Viet speakers and teachers.
And you call yourself a Vietnamese. 
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 15 2004, 06:08 AM)
QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Apr 15 2004, 04:56 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 14 2004, 06:26 PM)
They are a shame to the Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese language is almost lost on the second generation. What were their parents thinking? English is more important than Vietnamese to them? Where is their identity and pride in their ancestrial tongue?
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
It's more of a small country Vs. big country status really. A language can only dominate if it's influencial OR it has many speakers. Vietnamese unfortunately is not big in terms of population size of economic size to become popular.
Unfortuntately, for many overseas Vietnamese like myself, we are unable to fluent communicate in our mother language, it's because where I live, English is paramount and fluency in it will get you places. My parents being practical has always emphaised both my sibilings and I to focus on English.
There is a degree of regret, but it's an inevitable occurance. Once you reach your 3rd generation, it's a tough ask for them to retain their Asian values/traditions, it's too much of a burden really. Look at those Japanese 4-6th generations in America or many of the Chinese in Australia from the gold rush days, the only thing Asian about them is their physique and facial features.
If you live in a foreign country, you use thier language in public but once back in your house, start speaking your own language... how hard is that..?
btw what language do you use to communicate with your parents???
i speak half english half vietnamese to my parents... its just extremely hard to maintain your vietnamese standard when you go out into society and do nothing but speak english!
speaking vietnamese at home will let you learn only the basics of the language, while many words aren't used that often in the house... to learn those you need a society that speaks vietnaemse in general!
QUOTE (Vash @ Apr 16 2004, 01:58 AM)
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 15 2004, 06:08 AM)
QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Apr 15 2004, 04:56 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 14 2004, 06:26 PM)
They are a shame to the Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese language is almost lost on the second generation. What were their parents thinking? English is more important than Vietnamese to them? Where is their identity and pride in their ancestrial tongue?
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
It's more of a small country Vs. big country status really. A language can only dominate if it's influencial OR it has many speakers. Vietnamese unfortunately is not big in terms of population size of economic size to become popular.
Unfortuntately, for many overseas Vietnamese like myself, we are unable to fluent communicate in our mother language, it's because where I live, English is paramount and fluency in it will get you places. My parents being practical has always emphaised both my sibilings and I to focus on English.
There is a degree of regret, but it's an inevitable occurance. Once you reach your 3rd generation, it's a tough ask for them to retain their Asian values/traditions, it's too much of a burden really. Look at those Japanese 4-6th generations in America or many of the Chinese in Australia from the gold rush days, the only thing Asian about them is their physique and facial features.
If you live in a foreign country, you use thier language in public but once back in your house, start speaking your own language... how hard is that..?
btw what language do you use to communicate with your parents???
i speak half english half vietnamese to my parents... its just extremely hard to maintain your vietnamese standard when you go out into society and do nothing but speak english!
speaking vietnamese at home will let you learn only the basics of the language, while many words aren't used that often in the house... to learn those you need a society that speaks vietnaemse in general!
then hang out with more vietnamese people instead of whitties...
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 16 2004, 04:48 AM)
QUOTE (Vash @ Apr 16 2004, 01:58 AM)
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 15 2004, 06:08 AM)
QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Apr 15 2004, 04:56 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 14 2004, 06:26 PM)
They are a shame to the Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese language is almost lost on the second generation. What were their parents thinking? English is more important than Vietnamese to them? Where is their identity and pride in their ancestrial tongue?
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
It's more of a small country Vs. big country status really. A language can only dominate if it's influencial OR it has many speakers. Vietnamese unfortunately is not big in terms of population size of economic size to become popular.
Unfortuntately, for many overseas Vietnamese like myself, we are unable to fluent communicate in our mother language, it's because where I live, English is paramount and fluency in it will get you places. My parents being practical has always emphaised both my sibilings and I to focus on English.
There is a degree of regret, but it's an inevitable occurance. Once you reach your 3rd generation, it's a tough ask for them to retain their Asian values/traditions, it's too much of a burden really. Look at those Japanese 4-6th generations in America or many of the Chinese in Australia from the gold rush days, the only thing Asian about them is their physique and facial features.
If you live in a foreign country, you use thier language in public but once back in your house, start speaking your own language... how hard is that..?
btw what language do you use to communicate with your parents???
i speak half english half vietnamese to my parents... its just extremely hard to maintain your vietnamese standard when you go out into society and do nothing but speak english!
speaking vietnamese at home will let you learn only the basics of the language, while many words aren't used that often in the house... to learn those you need a society that speaks vietnaemse in general!
then hang out with more vietnamese people instead of whitties...
meh i see people that do that... from the outside when you see people at school blasting away at each other in vietnamese you tend to think they are one of those AzNs...
i for one would like to have a happy medium between cultures, without complete assimilation. That way you won't be alienated by either side! cool huh
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 16 2004, 04:48 AM)
QUOTE (Vash @ Apr 16 2004, 01:58 AM)
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 15 2004, 06:08 AM)
QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Apr 15 2004, 04:56 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 14 2004, 06:26 PM)
They are a shame to the Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese language is almost lost on the second generation. What were their parents thinking? English is more important than Vietnamese to them? Where is their identity and pride in their ancestrial tongue?
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
It's more of a small country Vs. big country status really. A language can only dominate if it's influencial OR it has many speakers. Vietnamese unfortunately is not big in terms of population size of economic size to become popular.
Unfortuntately, for many overseas Vietnamese like myself, we are unable to fluent communicate in our mother language, it's because where I live, English is paramount and fluency in it will get you places. My parents being practical has always emphaised both my sibilings and I to focus on English.
There is a degree of regret, but it's an inevitable occurance. Once you reach your 3rd generation, it's a tough ask for them to retain their Asian values/traditions, it's too much of a burden really. Look at those Japanese 4-6th generations in America or many of the Chinese in Australia from the gold rush days, the only thing Asian about them is their physique and facial features.
If you live in a foreign country, you use thier language in public but once back in your house, start speaking your own language... how hard is that..?
btw what language do you use to communicate with your parents???
i speak half english half vietnamese to my parents... its just extremely hard to maintain your vietnamese standard when you go out into society and do nothing but speak english!
speaking vietnamese at home will let you learn only the basics of the language, while many words aren't used that often in the house... to learn those you need a society that speaks vietnaemse in general!
then hang out with more vietnamese people instead of whitties...
Being wedged in between to socities can be difficult. I was raised in a Western environment with a a Western education and instilled with Western values.
I find it hard sticking to Asians or Whites, when Im with Asian friends, I feel much more Western compared to them, yet when I'm with White I fell that I'm too Asian. Sigh!
QUOTE (Vash @ Apr 16 2004, 05:31 AM)
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 16 2004, 04:48 AM)
QUOTE (Vash @ Apr 16 2004, 01:58 AM)
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 15 2004, 06:08 AM)
QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Apr 15 2004, 04:56 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 14 2004, 06:26 PM)
They are a shame to the Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese language is almost lost on the second generation. What were their parents thinking? English is more important than Vietnamese to them? Where is their identity and pride in their ancestrial tongue?
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
It's more of a small country Vs. big country status really. A language can only dominate if it's influencial OR it has many speakers. Vietnamese unfortunately is not big in terms of population size of economic size to become popular.
Unfortuntately, for many overseas Vietnamese like myself, we are unable to fluent communicate in our mother language, it's because where I live, English is paramount and fluency in it will get you places. My parents being practical has always emphaised both my sibilings and I to focus on English.
There is a degree of regret, but it's an inevitable occurance. Once you reach your 3rd generation, it's a tough ask for them to retain their Asian values/traditions, it's too much of a burden really. Look at those Japanese 4-6th generations in America or many of the Chinese in Australia from the gold rush days, the only thing Asian about them is their physique and facial features.
If you live in a foreign country, you use thier language in public but once back in your house, start speaking your own language... how hard is that..?
btw what language do you use to communicate with your parents???
i speak half english half vietnamese to my parents... its just extremely hard to maintain your vietnamese standard when you go out into society and do nothing but speak english!
speaking vietnamese at home will let you learn only the basics of the language, while many words aren't used that often in the house... to learn those you need a society that speaks vietnaemse in general!
then hang out with more vietnamese people instead of whitties...
meh i see people that do that... from the outside when you see people at school blasting away at each other in vietnamese you tend to think they are one of those AzNs...
i for one would like to have a happy medium between cultures, without complete assimilation. That way you won't be alienated by either side! cool huh
My point is if you're vietnamese make sure you know the language and its culture...
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 16 2004, 06:53 AM)
QUOTE (Vash @ Apr 16 2004, 05:31 AM)
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 16 2004, 04:48 AM)
QUOTE (Vash @ Apr 16 2004, 01:58 AM)
QUOTE (drunkenmonkey @ Apr 15 2004, 06:08 AM)
QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Apr 15 2004, 04:56 AM)
QUOTE (Nam Quoc Son Ha @ Apr 14 2004, 06:26 PM)
They are a shame to the Vietnamese people. The Vietnamese language is almost lost on the second generation. What were their parents thinking? English is more important than Vietnamese to them? Where is their identity and pride in their ancestrial tongue?
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
Most of those girls can't speak Vietnamese for $hit.
It's more of a small country Vs. big country status really. A language can only dominate if it's influencial OR it has many speakers. Vietnamese unfortunately is not big in terms of population size of economic size to become popular.
Unfortuntately, for many overseas Vietnamese like myself, we are unable to fluent communicate in our mother language, it's because where I live, English is paramount and fluency in it will get you places. My parents being practical has always emphaised both my sibilings and I to focus on English.
There is a degree of regret, but it's an inevitable occurance. Once you reach your 3rd generation, it's a tough ask for them to retain their Asian values/traditions, it's too much of a burden really. Look at those Japanese 4-6th generations in America or many of the Chinese in Australia from the gold rush days, the only thing Asian about them is their physique and facial features.
If you live in a foreign country, you use thier language in public but once back in your house, start speaking your own language... how hard is that..?
btw what language do you use to communicate with your parents???
i speak half english half vietnamese to my parents... its just extremely hard to maintain your vietnamese standard when you go out into society and do nothing but speak english!
speaking vietnamese at home will let you learn only the basics of the language, while many words aren't used that often in the house... to learn those you need a society that speaks vietnaemse in general!
then hang out with more vietnamese people instead of whitties...
meh i see people that do that... from the outside when you see people at school blasting away at each other in vietnamese you tend to think they are one of those AzNs...
i for one would like to have a happy medium between cultures, without complete assimilation. That way you won't be alienated by either side! cool huh
My point is if you're vietnamese make sure you know the language and its culture...
yeh but there are limits... the people who are even 6th generation viets and somehow maintain their language completely, still live in a vietnamese fashion and don't associate with western society really shouldn't be living like that (and dare i say some are even a burden on society)! then again people who are completely assimilated to western society miss out on the cultural depth of being asian...
but anyway yeh i get what you mean drunkenmonkey... i still have the culture and all that, i don't want to be those asians that are completely white because you just seem lost in the torrent of culture!
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yeh but there are limits... the people who are even 6th generation viets and somehow maintain their language completely, still live in a vietnamese fashion and don't associate with western society really shouldn't be living like that (and dare i say some are even a burden on society)! then again people who are completely assimilated to western society miss out on the cultural depth of being asian...
A prevailing trend in the West for a lot of 1970s - recent immigrants is that they usually grow up wanting to be White - dye their hair and wear contacts, dress quite provocatively by Asian standards but usually go through a "roots discovering" process during college/university and blend in both cultures. I've seen this happen even with AF/AM married to non Asian partners.
Complete assimilation into Western society won't be as forceful these days, many of the 6th/7th generations - their ancestors lived in a Western society before multicultralism and globalisation. Even though racism is still strong in the West and there is pressure to assimilate, there is now a larger pool of Asians to mix with and there is far more tolerance and acceptance of different races in the West nowadays than compared to the 50s (more so in Canada, Australia and USA).
A typical Asian-[Canadian]/[Australian]/[American]/[insert Western country here] most likely be able to speak fleunt English with a basic-intermediate graps of his Asian language, appreciate both Western and Asian food (not to metion cook it). He/She will be listening to Western music as well as Asian, work in a white collar job and pretty much blend in the best of Western and Asian cultures.
QUOTE (fujisan_8 @ Apr 16 2004, 08:35 AM)
A typical Asian-[Canadian]/[Australian]/[American]/[insert Western country here] most likely be able to speak fleunt English with a basic-intermediate graps of his Asian language, appreciate both Western and Asian food (not to metion cook it). He/She will be listening to Western music as well as Asian, work in a white collar job and pretty much blend in the best of Western and Asian cultures.
well said fuji san! nice to know someone that acknowledges the precise pressures us asians living in western society feel. Good description of the typical asian too lol you've pretty much described me and my friends
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