I would like to recommend some countermeasures against abductions by public transport drivers and snatch thefts.
ABDUCTION AND RAPE BY TAXI OR BUS DRIVERS.
Even though these cases are rare, it has happened several times already and all Malaysian women must be prepared to deal with it decisively. The moment you realize that the driver is not going the right way, ask him why and if you don't receive a satisfactory explanation, don't panic. Panicking would only work in favour of the criminal. You should open the door or window, stick your head and arm out,wave your arm and cry out for help.Most motorists who see you would suspect something is wrong and will either call the police with their phone, follow the vehicle you are in or both. I know I definitely would.
If the door and window is locked, kick the glass window as hard as you can.It should not matter if you cut your leg in the process. The most important thing in that situation is to catch other people's attention; and make sure you do this only when the taxi or bus is passing through a place where you think the people there can do something. You should never underestimate other people's willingness to help.
APPROACHED BY SNATCH THIEVES.
In a situation where you are walking along the road and suspicious looking men approach you, start looking around you. See if you can find any place to throw your bag. If there is a thick bush nearby,that's where you should throw your bag. If there is a fence, throw your bag over the fence. I'm sure the owner of that property would understand your actions.This should be done only if you are 100% certain the stranger who approach you is after your bag.
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bring a small pocket knife, or a pepper spray.
QUOTE (flipcombatmedic @ Feb 22 2005, 01:07 PM)
bring a small pocket knife, or a pepper spray.
the pocket knife requires some fighting skills.. I say a pepper spray bottle or Tazer would help more.
QUOTE (UrbanPoet @ Feb 22 2005, 04:00 PM)
QUOTE (flipcombatmedic @ Feb 22 2005, 01:07 PM)
bring a small pocket knife, or a pepper spray.
the pocket knife requires some fighting skills.. I say a pepper spray bottle or Tazer would help more.
yeah it does, but in close quarters and when your assailant is being too preoccupied in pinning you, you could pull it out suprisingly and attack him quickly without him noticing you. givin you a few time to escape or if you incapacitated him enough, fight back.
is carrying fire-arms illegal in Malaysia?
QUOTE (Fil-Am @ Feb 22 2005, 10:48 PM)
is carrying fire-arms illegal in Malaysia?
It is much more than just illegal, possession of fire-arms, ammunition and explosives especially in sensitive area is on the corridor of death penalty as far as I know.
QUOTE (Nusantara @ Feb 22 2005, 11:22 PM)
QUOTE (Fil-Am @ Feb 22 2005, 10:48 PM)
is carrying fire-arms illegal in Malaysia?
It is much more than just illegal, possession of fire-arms, ammunition and explosives especially in sensitive area is on the corridor of death penalty as far as I know.
I received this msg in my e-mail last year but it is still very helpful.
WHAT TO DO IF STOPPED BY MALAYSIAN POLICE
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This is is very useful information. Please pass it on to your friends and family.............especially the women folk!
The next time you are stopped by persons who claimed they are plainclothes police, you are under no obligation to answer their questions or follow their orders, lawyers told Malaysiakini today.
"Policeman who is not wearing his uniform does not have the authority to stop anyone," lawyer and human rights activist Sivarasa Rasiah said.
Sivarasa was commenting on the alleged gang-rape of an 18-year-old Uni student by four men claiming to be police officers on New Year's Eve. The girl said that her car was stopped in Taman Tun Dr Ismail in Kuala Lumpur and were asked by the men to open the car bonnet. She was then told that she had committed an offence and ordered to follow the men to a police station. The girl was driven in her car along the North-South expressway to the Tapah-Cameron Highlands road before she was raped in an oil palm estate.
This incident, and many others, have sparked confusion over the procedures which motorists must follow when flagged down by the police. The most common problem is that most people take instructions without determining if the other person is really a cop," lawyer Annie Santiago said.
However, if you are stopped by a uniformed policeman, then you are required to stop. But you need not get out of the car because you are not expected to do so, Santiago said. He other rule to follow is to provide your identity card only when you are asked to do so. "Even then, you should get his ID first to confirm if he is a cop. There is no harm in calling the relevant police station to verify if he is supposed to be on duty that day," Sivarasa said.
Both lawyers said that motorists should never follow an officer to the police station unless one is under arrest. "If you are not sure, and your instincts tell you that something is wrong, then drive off to the nearest police station and lodge a report," Sivarasa said.
In response to the alleged gang-rape of the 18-year-old, Women's Aid Organisation executive-secretary Ivy Josiah called on the police to launch an education program to teach the public about their rights to prevent them from being victimised by bogus police officers.
Procedures to follow in the event you are stopped by uniformed police Officers while driving.
Stop the car and wind down your window.
If the police officers ask for your documents, request to see their IDs first.
If you are satisfied about their identity, ask them if you are being summoned, and for what offence.
Produce your identity card and driver's license and wait to collect your summon ticket.
In the event that the police officers ask you to follow them to the police station:
Ask if you are under arrest and for what offence.
If you are not under arrest, you have the right to leave.
In the event you are flagged down by persons you believe could be plainclothes police:
Do not stop because plainclothes police officers do not have the authority to stop you.
Drive to the nearest police station and lodge a report. (The same procedure applies to pedestrians)
In the event the police come to your house:
Do not let them in before checking their IDs.
If you are not satisfied, phone the nearest police station and confirm if they had been sent to your house.
You are under no obligation to allow them into the house if they don't have a search warrant.
Do not go with them if you are not under arrest.
In the event persons who claimed to be plainclothes police come to your house:
Do not let him in because they do not have the authority to do so.
Lodge a report at the nearest police station.
CALL THE COPS:
IPK KUALA LUMPUR: 03 - 236 0522
AMPANG: 03 - 452 2222
BRICKFIELDS 03 - 2274 2222
CHERAS: 03 - 984 2222
DANG WANGI: 03 - 230 2222
KL TRAFFIC POLICE: 03 - 232 9044
IPK SELANGOR: 03 - 5514 5222
HOTLINE: 03 - 5510 2999
PETALING JAYA: 03 - 7956 2222
SHAH ALAM: 03 - 5510 2222
KLANG: 03 - 3371 2222
HULU LANGAT: 03 - 8736 2222
HULU SELANGOR: 03 - 6064 1222
KUALA LANGAT: 03 - 318 7222
KUALA SELANGOR: 03 - 889 1222
GOMBAK: 03 - 6092 6222
SABAK BERNAM: 03 - 884 2222
SEPANG: 03 - 847 1222
KLIA: 03 - 8787 2222
PLEASE PASS IT ON..........
PLEASE PASS IT ON..........
PLEASE PASS IT ON............
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WHAT TO DO IF STOPPED BY MALAYSIAN POLICE
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This is is very useful information. Please pass it on to your friends and family.............especially the women folk!
The next time you are stopped by persons who claimed they are plainclothes police, you are under no obligation to answer their questions or follow their orders, lawyers told Malaysiakini today.
"Policeman who is not wearing his uniform does not have the authority to stop anyone," lawyer and human rights activist Sivarasa Rasiah said.
Sivarasa was commenting on the alleged gang-rape of an 18-year-old Uni student by four men claiming to be police officers on New Year's Eve. The girl said that her car was stopped in Taman Tun Dr Ismail in Kuala Lumpur and were asked by the men to open the car bonnet. She was then told that she had committed an offence and ordered to follow the men to a police station. The girl was driven in her car along the North-South expressway to the Tapah-Cameron Highlands road before she was raped in an oil palm estate.
This incident, and many others, have sparked confusion over the procedures which motorists must follow when flagged down by the police. The most common problem is that most people take instructions without determining if the other person is really a cop," lawyer Annie Santiago said.
However, if you are stopped by a uniformed policeman, then you are required to stop. But you need not get out of the car because you are not expected to do so, Santiago said. He other rule to follow is to provide your identity card only when you are asked to do so. "Even then, you should get his ID first to confirm if he is a cop. There is no harm in calling the relevant police station to verify if he is supposed to be on duty that day," Sivarasa said.
Both lawyers said that motorists should never follow an officer to the police station unless one is under arrest. "If you are not sure, and your instincts tell you that something is wrong, then drive off to the nearest police station and lodge a report," Sivarasa said.
In response to the alleged gang-rape of the 18-year-old, Women's Aid Organisation executive-secretary Ivy Josiah called on the police to launch an education program to teach the public about their rights to prevent them from being victimised by bogus police officers.
Procedures to follow in the event you are stopped by uniformed police Officers while driving.
Stop the car and wind down your window.
If the police officers ask for your documents, request to see their IDs first.
If you are satisfied about their identity, ask them if you are being summoned, and for what offence.
Produce your identity card and driver's license and wait to collect your summon ticket.
In the event that the police officers ask you to follow them to the police station:
Ask if you are under arrest and for what offence.
If you are not under arrest, you have the right to leave.
In the event you are flagged down by persons you believe could be plainclothes police:
Do not stop because plainclothes police officers do not have the authority to stop you.
Drive to the nearest police station and lodge a report. (The same procedure applies to pedestrians)
In the event the police come to your house:
Do not let them in before checking their IDs.
If you are not satisfied, phone the nearest police station and confirm if they had been sent to your house.
You are under no obligation to allow them into the house if they don't have a search warrant.
Do not go with them if you are not under arrest.
In the event persons who claimed to be plainclothes police come to your house:
Do not let him in because they do not have the authority to do so.
Lodge a report at the nearest police station.
CALL THE COPS:
IPK KUALA LUMPUR: 03 - 236 0522
AMPANG: 03 - 452 2222
BRICKFIELDS 03 - 2274 2222
CHERAS: 03 - 984 2222
DANG WANGI: 03 - 230 2222
KL TRAFFIC POLICE: 03 - 232 9044
IPK SELANGOR: 03 - 5514 5222
HOTLINE: 03 - 5510 2999
PETALING JAYA: 03 - 7956 2222
SHAH ALAM: 03 - 5510 2222
KLANG: 03 - 3371 2222
HULU LANGAT: 03 - 8736 2222
HULU SELANGOR: 03 - 6064 1222
KUALA LANGAT: 03 - 318 7222
KUALA SELANGOR: 03 - 889 1222
GOMBAK: 03 - 6092 6222
SABAK BERNAM: 03 - 884 2222
SEPANG: 03 - 847 1222
KLIA: 03 - 8787 2222
PLEASE PASS IT ON..........
PLEASE PASS IT ON..........
PLEASE PASS IT ON............
The procdure when you are flagged down by cop on a highway do not get out of the car.. just like in the movies
^^ Right.
QUOTE (hypermount @ Mar 28 2005, 03:12 AM)
The procdure when you are flagged down by cop on a highway do not get out of the car.. just like in the movies
yeah on the movies (actually i didnt see that scene in any movies that i watch yet!
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runnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^^ Good luck outrunning a motorbike.
then you shouldnt run if a motorbike chases you???if you run like the idiots in baywatch then surely those bikers get what they want..if you run like me..well..u can reach 100m in 5 minutes haha so u should run as fast as u can..must always do stretching and exercise everyday
so u should run as fast as u can..must always do stretching and exercise everyday
QUOTE (yana19384 @ Aug 23 2005, 08:27 AM)
then you shouldnt run if a motorbike chases you???if you run like the idiots in baywatch then surely those bikers get what they want..if you run like me..well..u can reach 100m in 5 minutes haha so u should run as fast as u can..must always do stretching and exercise everyday
so u should run as fast as u can..must always do stretching and exercise everyday and eat a lot of icecreams yummy!!
(see icecream signature above LOL)
thanks to you!!!
I think one way to deal with criminals on bikes is to run past them in the opposite dirction. When they turn back in your direction, you just stop and run the opposite way again. Keep doing it untill they give up or someone arrive and scare them away.
are you serious?..wont that tire you?(whoever thats running) and the guy might just run instead of still stupidly riding the bike..and keep chasing u while u kinda run on the same spot
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Aug 23 2005, 02:27 PM)
I think one way to deal with criminals on bikes is to run past them in the opposite dirction. When they turn back in your direction, you just stop and run the opposite way again. Keep doing it untill they give up or someone arrive and scare them away.
haha...it reminds me like playing the game called "galah panjang" when i was a little kid...
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oh my god..that game is like one of the coolest happiest game ever!!!especially when u are winning
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Aug 24 2005, 03:27 AM)
I think one way to deal with criminals on bikes is to run past them in the opposite dirction. When they turn back in your direction, you just stop and run the opposite way again. Keep doing it untill they give up or someone arrive and scare them away.
Nah that won't do.
What you should do is dodge aside when he's coming at you and jam a pole or a large brance at the bike wheels.
After that you can sit back and relax and enjoy some high flying entertainment.
QUOTE (yana19384 @ Aug 24 2005, 03:00 AM)
are you serious?..wont that tire you?(whoever thats running) and the guy might just run instead of still stupidly riding the bike..and keep chasing u while u kinda run on the same spot
That strategy is for energetic girls only. Anyway, the only reason a bike goes for a woman is to get her bag. If they catch up with you on foot or by bike, just throw away the bag over a fence or into the bushes like I advised earlier.
you cant sit back and relax when someone is going to cut off your throat if they dont get what they want bro
yeah..giving up the bag is kind of a good tactic to save yourself..but..emm..for me..well..i rather stay with the bag and run..cos its your bag man..my mom or dad would have bought it for me
yeah..giving up the bag is kind of a good tactic to save yourself..but..emm..for me..well..i rather stay with the bag and run..cos its your bag man..my mom or dad would have bought it for me
Throw the bag over a fence and then run. They'll have no more reason to chase you. Then you can come back to ask for the bag from the property owner.
Well that would work if the property owner is nice enough.
Its much better to take your chances with the property owner than the scumbag biker.
Yeah true but I bet that scumbag biker will brutally hurt the victim if that manage to piss him off.
Thats why you should run after throwing away the bag.
Yeah run like duh!
The scumbag is on a bike and you're on your own feet.
The guy will probably roll over you unless you manage to leap over a ditch,drain or fence.
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The scumbag is on a bike and you're on your own feet.
The guy will probably roll over you unless you manage to leap over a ditch,drain or fence.
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QUOTE (Bringer_Of_Death @ Aug 29 2005, 07:25 AM)
leap over a ditch,drain or fence.
EXACTLY
im getting tired reading you guys mention the word running all the time...puhh puhh puhh...
I think its better for women to go around with their own vehicles instead of public transport.
Those who can't afford cars can buy scooters.
Buses are very inconvenient and their service sucks.
Those who can't afford cars can buy scooters.
Buses are very inconvenient and their service sucks.
but i like trains..or whatever u call them..they are cool..neat and stuff..
oh and yeah...i duntmind a scootie..ive always wanted to have one...and paint it with cartoon characters or anime...wahhh....lor butterfly...wahhhh...i think i'll have that once im in melaka..hehehe 
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Feb 23 2005, 04:05 AM)
I would like to recommend some countermeasures against abductions by public transport drivers and snatch thefts.
ABDUCTION AND RAPE BY TAXI OR BUS DRIVERS.
APPROACHED BY SNATCH THIEVES.
ABDUCTION AND RAPE BY TAXI OR BUS DRIVERS.
APPROACHED BY SNATCH THIEVES.
Thanks to Iron Malayan for the tips.
Here are some of mine.
I've read a lot of stories on abduction and rape by taxi drivers. I admit that I am paranoid whenever I ride a cab all alone.
1) Take cabs which are part of a company known to you, for example, Comfort or whatever agency there is out there.
2) When inside a cab, make a phonecall to someone close to you. Let the cab driver know that someone is expecting you and knows that you are inside the cab. If you are very afraid, take down the cab number plate and the name of the driver and send it to that someone. Tell them on the phone that you are going to send it to them.
I am quite ashamed of the number of snatch thieves incident in the Klang Valley. I have been a victim of one during broad daylight and just a few houses away from my house. Fortunately, I had my wallet and house keys in my hand at that time. However, my mobile phone and some other documents were in there. Here are some precaution measures.
1) Always walk on the opposite of the traffic flow. Snatch thieves usually snatch from behind. By walking opposite, you can watch for incoming motorists.
2) Sling your bag on the opposite direction of the traffic. This will reduce the probability of your bag being snatched.
3) Keep your bag close to you.
4) Try to keep some of your valuables elsewhere. Eg. If you are carrying a lot of money, keep some in your pocket.
5) Do not travel by foot. :P
Honestly, these thieves are so quick!! In a blink of an eye your valuables are gone!
However, remember in the end, safety is your priority. If your life is at risk, it is wiser to give up on your valuables.
Also, report all incidents to your local police station and to your local community (Eg. the Rukun Tetangga). Be aware of high crime rate areas and your surroundings.
Honestly I am quite paranoid. ;p
Also ladies, try not to drive home late at night. Hehe.
^^good tips
QUOTE (caramel @ Oct 2 2005, 03:31 AM)
1) Always walk on the opposite of the traffic flow. Snatch thieves usually snatch from behind. By walking opposite, you can watch for incoming motorists.
2) Sling your bag on the opposite direction of the traffic. This will reduce the probability of your bag being snatched.
3) Keep your bag close to you.
4) Try to keep some of your valuables elsewhere. Eg. If you are carrying a lot of money, keep some in your pocket.
5) Do not travel by foot. :P
Right on.
2) Sling your bag on the opposite direction of the traffic. This will reduce the probability of your bag being snatched.
3) Keep your bag close to you.
4) Try to keep some of your valuables elsewhere. Eg. If you are carrying a lot of money, keep some in your pocket.
5) Do not travel by foot. :P
bring a small bazooka in your purse. It seems to work.
only if you are well trained for that small bazooka..and only if ninja turtles exist...
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