quocthaibinhan
Feb 16 2005, 04:03 AM
A challenge to all: point out just one thing that does not make sense.
I have explained the simple truth of US war on Viet Nam and the causes of why Viet Nam is still in the same mess even after the war.
If you think that what I say is crap and you stand against it, point out just one thing that I say that does not make sense.
See if you can,……think….!!!!!
quocthaibinhan
Feb 16 2005, 02:36 PM
Just one thing, guys. Can it be that hard
Darvil
Feb 16 2005, 02:46 PM
All right I'll bite this apple.
It would be nice if there was some form of arranged info on this since its quite a big tangent from what is widely believed. I wouldn't want to wade thru all the posts.
In any case I would like to ask you. What caused the US to change its policies toward communism from secretly supporting it (as you're insinuating) all the way to directly getting involved on getting rid of it?
quocthaibinhan
Feb 16 2005, 03:17 PM
Again explained in Ho was US key agent post. Grrr read, man. Can you read. blammy.
supernovasp
Feb 16 2005, 06:42 PM
Nguyen dynasty sucks, plain and simple. That's why North Vietnamese supported Ho Chi Minh.
Darvil
Feb 16 2005, 06:50 PM
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Feb 16 2005, 03:17 PM)
Again explained in Ho was US key agent post. Grrr read, man. Can you read. blammy.
blah blah blah
Are you the only one saying these things?
Why not put up a website or something. Most drastic views on history have at least some support.
I don't want to search thru this forum searching for all your posts, wading thru all the crap.
For now I'm just going to say you have no answer since you can't even give me a sentence. It really is simple ONE sentence to explain it.
quocthaibinhan
Feb 16 2005, 07:01 PM
Here, since I feel sorry for you.
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=28459Ho was a key US agent. got it. rather lame that you can not even find it.
quocthaibinhan
Feb 16 2005, 07:06 PM
No more stupid questions without reading first. If you can not read and find my posts, that is pretty crap. Got to grow out of the spoon feeding time. The only crap is those that can not read or find my posts to come up with just one thing that does not make sense , yet mouth off too much so
NO more excuses, just one thing that does not make sense . Blammny!!
supernovasp
Feb 16 2005, 07:35 PM
You don't even make sense.
quocthaibinhan
Feb 16 2005, 08:00 PM
Yeap, too bad
quocthaibinhan
Feb 17 2005, 08:15 AM
If you can not meet the challenge, don't make excuses and moan and groan. That's just pathetic, don't you think. May be not.
It is not difficult to do a search here. But I have given one important link and the website in my quote below. You should be able to find it yourselves, that is part of the chal..len...ge.
Common My nguy and others, just one thing that does not make sense, just one and you can smear it all over, just one !!!!!
JimTungLe
Feb 17 2005, 08:31 AM
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Feb 16 2005, 06:42 PM)
Nguyen dynasty sucks, plain and simple. That's why North Vietnamese supported Ho Chi Minh.
You are
clearly wrong,------------
supernovasp,
1. Emperor Bao Dai, abdicated under pressure to Ho Chi Minh, when the Viet Minh invaded the Imperial Capital of Hue.
Ho Chi Minh told Emperor Bao Dai, that he did not want Vietnam to fall in the hands of the French again, and that he would lead Vietnam as a whole for Freedom.
At the time Emperor Bao Dai, agreed and he gave a speech, and excerpt of the speech of his famous words stated.
QUOTE
"I would prefer to be a citizen of an independent country rather than Emperor of an enslaved one." ----Emperor Bao Dai
Ho Chi Minh did not tell Emperor Bao Dai, that he was a Communist and his intentions was to govern the whole nation of Vietnam under a Dictatorship.
2. Not only people in North Vietnam supported the Nationalist Views of Ho Chi Minh, but many Southerns joined the Viet Minh, including my Uncle and Grandfather, fought with the Viet Minh under the leadership of Ho Chi Minh and General Giap.
When the Viet Minh defeated the French at Dien Bien Phu, many Vietnamese than began to learn more about the indoctrination and the political views of the Viet Minh was more Commuist than Nationalistic.
Many Vietnamese from the North and the South left the Viet Minh, because of their Communist doctrine, including my Uncle and Grandfather who returned back to My Tho, Southern Vietnam.
Abdication of
Emperor Bao Dai speech:
http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~vern/van_kien/baodai.html
quocthaibinhan
Feb 17 2005, 08:40 AM
Just one, ok. Don't bother about others, just one on what I say. Is there anyone !!!!! Those who wave 3-worm flag around saying you are saving us or something like that !!!!
Just one, only one then you can smear it all over !!!!
quocthaibinhan
Feb 18 2005, 11:38 AM
Are you having fun researching for one point, only one !!!!
quocthaibinhan
Feb 18 2005, 07:02 PM
Here is the summary for all of my points. See if you can understand or don't understand, but try not to moan and groan.
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...=30#entry721555
I only have one repeated question: can you point out one thing I say that does not make sense ?????
You can colaborate and use it to do good, but he (Ba0 dai) colaborated then ran away to be a play boy for the rest of his long life and left the rest of their leaders to be corrupt and said nothing about it, Ngo got a bullet in the head (his regime clapped hands and laughed at burning monks protested Ngo regime's atrocities, it saved My nguy from doing the dirty jobs themselves) so did his brother, a bullet in the head; Thieu cried US betrayal and remained silenced till his dying day; Ky enriched himself (some say through transporting drugs and other things) and then told My nguy ngu that “they are a bunch of minority that can not do anything, so shut up”. Who else are left, but a few clowns who did not get their chances at playing with crap, now 50yrs old. So now they show their faces and play with the same 50yr crap that was responsible for 80million toxic wastes dumped, 3 times WWII bombs dumped, a divided country that was internationally signed and agreed to be held an election, so much for international agreements, 30yrs of never seen hell, rapes and murders in the whole history of mankind, then shamefully withdrew to collapse everything and to easily suck in communism to have the slaving machine on automation and then put the country under further 20yrs of hard embargo to make sure that the country remained in hell, poor and sick.
This is the real, most reliable and undeniable source you will ever need. You can ever dispute any of this ?. They may say it was not all toxic wastes, but even that is standing on weak ground, and irrelevant. There is nothing else they can lie or deny about it, yet these clowns still are playing with the same 50yr crap. Why, because they got to be some worm kind that like they jokingly say are crawling in yellow piss or yellow crap that is now 50yr old. Whatever you like to jokingly put it, it is still a stinking joke. !!!!!
You don't need to waste more time research for any more sources, but it is only for educational purpose; for understanding, this is all you ever will need. Stick with this and no one can deny or lie about it. This is the rotten core; you will see the rest is just lies trying to cover up these undeniable, basic facts. Why go further from these truth/facts. If you have these facts firmly in your mind, everything else falls into place. If you don't, you will be wandering in the same 50yr crap and you will look the same some stupid, stinking clowns for some stinking joke, for others to laugh at, but not only yourselves, they will use it to laugh at your whole race.
What a stinking joke!!!
"They have created a culture of lies and denials, so that increases the chances for more wars and atrocities" and more money to be made out of others' miseries.
Ring any bells yet!!!! It all boils down to who and what you are. If you are worms, there is little hope to be much else. There will always be worms crawling you know where. If you have money, you can always pay these worms to entertain your stupid, stinking jokes for some stupid laughs and miseries. Some people feel better laughing at others' miseries, and making money out of such laughter and fun.
Oh what joy. Oh! what jingle bell that deafens and drugs every senses, not that you have much to be started. If you do, it would not matter what noises, you will still have your good senses and it does not need much to recognize what I say. It all comes down to who you are: murderers or rapists, stupid, stinking clowns or humans, for these facts are too simple to understand if you want to, to begin with.
quocthaibinhan
Feb 20 2005, 02:20 PM
No one is able to meet the challenge. I like quietness, thoughtfulness and clarity. Does this silence mean these or they just can not crap at my places.
quocthaibinhan
Feb 22 2005, 08:10 PM
There may be those who complain that they could not understand. Do tell what you do and don't understand, or just moan that you don't . It is then rather too pathetic.
quocthaibinhan
Mar 12 2005, 03:44 PM
The stinking, monkeying clowns can not even come up with one point that I say does not make sense, so they want to beat me up. What's is new with these monkeying clowns; the same crap that happened many times before. This is why it is a stinking, monkeying joke.
quocthaibinhan
Mar 23 2005, 04:21 AM
just one guys, just one !!!!
herosword
Mar 24 2005, 11:24 AM
There were two branch in the Vietnamese who fought at Dien Bien Phu: nationalist and communist. In the past when I've argued about Dien Bien Phu with the communists, they denied such a thing exist (they claimed the victory all for themselves). In that battle nationalist and communist forces joined together to drive out the French. In the end the Viet Minh purged those who were not communists and many nationalists left (your own grandfather and father's story provides empirical evidence). Vietnam Quoc Dan Danh...(I slaugthered the spelling) but anyone heard of it. They were nationalists who fought along side the Viet Minh at Dien Bien Phu against the French, but they were later betrayed and completely wiped out by the communists.
This echoes the Chinese experience. Under Sun Yat-sen, communists and nationalist united under the Kumingtang to drive out the Japanese and imperial powers. When that was accomplished they turned against each other and split, communists leaving the Kumingtang and led by Mao, while the Kumingtang came under the control of Chang-Kai-Shek.
QUOTE (JimTungLe @ Feb 17 2005, 08:31 AM)
You are
clearly wrong,------------
supernovasp,
1. Emperor Bao Dai, abdicated under pressure to Ho Chi Minh, when the Viet Minh invaded the Imperial Capital of Hue.
Ho Chi Minh told Emperor Bao Dai, that he did not want Vietnam to fall in the hands of the French again, and that he would lead Vietnam as a whole for Freedom.
At the time Emperor Bao Dai, agreed and he gave a speech, and excerpt of the speech of his famous words stated.
QUOTE
"I would prefer to be a citizen of an independent country rather than Emperor of an enslaved one." ----Emperor Bao Dai
Ho Chi Minh did not tell Emperor Bao Dai, that he was a Communist and his intentions was to govern the whole nation of Vietnam under a Dictatorship.
2. Not only people in North Vietnam supported the Nationalist Views of Ho Chi Minh, but many Southerns joined the Viet Minh, including my Uncle and Grandfather, fought with the Viet Minh under the leadership of Ho Chi Minh and General Giap.
When the Viet Minh defeated the French at Dien Bien Phu, many Vietnamese than began to learn more about the indoctrination and the political views of the Viet Minh was more Commuist than Nationalistic.
Many Vietnamese from the North and the South left the Viet Minh, because of their Communist doctrine, including my Uncle and Grandfather who returned back to My Tho, Southern Vietnam.
Abdication of
Emperor Bao Dai speech:
http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~vern/van_kien/baodai.html
quocthaibinhan
Mar 24 2005, 01:42 PM
Dien Bien Phu, I shut that topic down long ago over at vietmedia. All the simple and undeniable truth about DBP was explained by me long ago. Everyone over there is very clear about it and no one even mentions it now.
Hey, does hero something that stinks still think encouraging or allowing it all to happen is a "balance approach", dumping or two times WWII bombs and 80million toxic wastes, of course not mentioning all other atrocities they must also committed through out 30yr of rampaging. Sounds to me like stinking, monkeying crap. Still wanna to beat me up or encourage some gang to do it. You can not duel in mental challenges so you wanna to or encourage others to beat me up.
50 stinking, monkeying years of murders and rapes, dumping two times WWII bombs and 80 million toxic wastes and now you stinking monkeying clowns can not say anything so you wanna beat me up. What's new. You stinking, monkeying clowns have no topics to say about Viet Nam war that I have not explained and shut it down for years already.
Obviously, I am your worst nightmare. You stinking, monkeying clowns should have nighmares about me flushing your 50yr stinking crap down the stinking hole.
You stinking, monkeying clowns have nothing but the same stinking 50yr crap. What else have you got that ain't stinking crap.
Got even one point to say that it is nonsense or does not make any sense please explain. Something worth my while that I don't have to flush it down !!!! hey
Or just stinking, monkeying laughs hawhawhawhaw heeeeaaaaoooo
freefallz
Mar 26 2005, 12:21 AM
QUOTE (quocthaibinhan @ Mar 24 2005, 01:42 PM)
Dien Bien Phu, I shut that topic down long ago over at vietmedia. All the simple and undeniable truth about DBP was explained by me long ago. Everyone over there is very clear about it and no one even mentions it now.
Hey, does hero something that stinks still think encouraging or allowing it all to happen is a "balance approach", dumping or two times WWII bombs and 80million toxic wastes, of course not mentioning all other atrocities they must also committed through out 30yr of rampaging. Sounds to me like stinking, monkeying crap. Still wanna to beat me up or encourage some gang to do it. You can not duel in mental challenges so you wanna to or encourage others to beat me up.
50 stinking, monkeying years of murders and rapes, dumping two times WWII bombs and 80 million toxic wastes and now you stinking monkeying clowns can not say anything so you wanna beat me up. What's new. You stinking, monkeying clowns have no topics to say about Viet Nam war that I have not explained and shut it down for years already.
Obviously, I am your worst nightmare. You stinking, monkeying clowns should have nighmares about me flushing your 50yr stinking crap down the stinking hole.
You stinking, monkeying clowns have nothing but the same stinking 50yr crap. What else have you got that ain't stinking crap.
Got even one point to say that it is nonsense or does not make any sense please explain. Something worth my while that I don't have to flush it down !!!! hey
Or just stinking, monkeying laughs hawhawhawhaw heeeeaaaaoooo
You should explain your point with more clarity, or at least be more engaging to the seriousness of the topic rather than to post "stinking, crap, monkeying clowns" over and over. It makes no sense.
quocthaibinhan
Mar 26 2005, 02:47 AM
(("stinking, crap, monkeying clowns"))
You should learn these language if you are to talk to 3 worms and stinking monkeying clowns. Of course you will have to read the context to know what I mean, 3 worms have no problem understand it, you should not have if you are can read and understand it in contextual sense. It is not as simple as calling someone ignorant and then say it has several contextual meanings make sure you know which one I mean. Isn't it.
If I say someone is ignorant, I mean exactly that, no crapping around about context, and do you really need to ???? Obviously you do, and like to dance around about context when you don't bother to read.
So these are the only things that you don't understand. IS THAT IT ??? IT'S NOTHING AT ALL!!
freefallz
Mar 26 2005, 03:53 AM
No I take things pretty seriously around here and I do not know what you mean by stinking monkeying clowns - should I take it literally?. In all due respect of your dissatisfaction and hatred towards the subject matter, learn to use some appropriate English words that directly convey meaning on what you are talking about. Explain to me what is "stinking monkeying clowns"??? Let's get things straight before commencing any constructive discussion.
quocthaibinhan
Mar 26 2005, 04:52 AM
Stinking monkeying around in what context did I say it ??. In the context of US war on Viets and who's monkeying around for 50 years. Obviously you don't read and you teaching me about context.
it is about My nguy ask JungleJimmy for clarification. I have shut him down, he may like to have something to say after all the shut up I did on him. He and his bunch of stinking monkeying clowns are very quiet guess why.
quocthaibinhan
Mar 26 2005, 04:55 AM
I will let you read and only answer questions of substance. I had my fill of entertainment.
quocthaibinhan
Apr 6 2005, 12:47 AM
See that you can at least point out one thing, or crawl and hawhawhawhaw hoooaaa hawhawhawhaw
quocthaibinhan
Apr 15 2005, 08:13 PM
jjjjusst oneeeeeee
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