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Byron
NOTE: As promised I removed the other story since that guy who invented the
silicon wafer is probably Chinese, but the story below me is a Vietnamese.

Here is a story of a Vietnamese where one is dubbed the Father of the PC and the other created the first microprocessor-controlled single-wafer plasma etcher for semiconductor.

A Vietnamese was first creator of the first PC with a microprossor called the Micral which came out 2 years before the Altair computer.

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0%2C1...C6850%2C00.html


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Andre Thi Truong is not often confused for the father of the personal computer - at least in the US, heartland of digital tech. But, as it turns out, the 61-year-old French Vietnamese entrepreneur is exactly that.

In 1973, two years before the debut of the famed Altair, his two-year-old company, R2E, created the Micral microcomputer based on an Intel 8008 processor - the genetic ancestor from which all PC generations have followed.

...Does anyone have a beef with you claiming to have created the first personal computer?

Nobody has really contested that the Micral was the first microcomputer. In 1986, The Boston Computer Museum held a contest to elucidate the pioneers of microcomputers. Its examiners, including Steve Wozniak, gave the title of the first microcomputer to the Kenbak, which was designed in 1971 with discrete logic and not with a microprocessor. The Micral was nevertheless recognized as the first microprocessor-based personal computer, and the first microcomputer largely and commercially distributed, and it's now displayed at the museum.


Here in the wikipedia list of father of inventions or discoveries he is listed as the father of the personal computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peopl...er_of_something

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Andre Thi Truong - The father of the personal computer
DaiNamViet
Well , if hes born in China and also named Lam then he's a Chinaman , perhaps the Vietnamese air and food caused his brain to work better beerchug.gif
Byron
Lam is a Kinh Vietnamese name though. Don't know if it's a Chinese name though. Also he did live in South Vietnam???

Well even if he is Chinese, then at least we still have Andre Thi Truong the "Father of the PC". icon_smile.gif
DaiNamViet
*lag
DaiNamViet
*Lag
DaiNamViet
QUOTE
Lam is a Kinh Vietnamese name though.

Not really, its just the translated version of Lin .. if a chinese with the named Lin was to move to VN then they would just translate it to Lam ,
DaiNamViet
QUOTE
Lam is a Kinh Vietnamese name though.

Not really, its just the translated version of Lin .. if a chinese with the named Lin was to move to VN then they would just translate it to Lam ,
Byron
But when the guy lived in America why didn't he just use Lin?
Cold_As_Ice
I have a few Vietnamese friend with the name Lam.
VOTAMVOTU
is this bs???
never heard of it
just wondering
that be tight if this is true though
MING-LOYALIST
Cantonese people also use Lam, Lin is the mandarin version.
DaiNamViet
QUOTE (Byron @ Feb 5 2005, 03:16 PM)
But when the guy lived in America why didn't he just use Lin?
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I have some Chinamen friends who still use Ly and won't even bother changing it to Li
康师傅
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Feb 9 2005, 09:06 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Feb 5 2005, 03:16 PM)
But when the guy lived in America why didn't he just use Lin?
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I have some Chinamen friends who still use Ly and won't even bother changing it to Li
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u better not call us chinamen.. u ANNANMEN
DaiNamViet
QUOTE (康师傅 @ Feb 9 2005, 10:59 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Feb 9 2005, 09:06 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Feb 5 2005, 03:16 PM)
But when the guy lived in America why didn't he just use Lin?
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I have some Chinamen friends who still use Ly and won't even bother changing it to Li
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u better not call us chinamen.. u ANNANMEN
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whats wrong with calling them chinamen?? they are men from china.. embarassedlaugh.gif2 what is ANNANMEN ???...are you a FOB sir?? you can call me Vietnamman no offense taken icon_wink.gif
vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Feb 10 2005, 08:29 PM)
QUOTE (康师傅 @ Feb 9 2005, 10:59 PM)
QUOTE (DaiNamViet @ Feb 9 2005, 09:06 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Feb 5 2005, 03:16 PM)
But when the guy lived in America why didn't he just use Lin?
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I have some Chinamen friends who still use Ly and won't even bother changing it to Li
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u better not call us chinamen.. u ANNANMEN
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whats wrong with calling them chinamen?? they are men from china.. embarassedlaugh.gif2 what is ANNANMEN ???...are you a FOB sir?? you can call me Vietnamman no offense taken icon_wink.gif
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hahaha the chinaman is just too sensitive !!
Rappapa
Chinaman is a derogatory term.
AnNanMen is what Vietnam was when when China controlled it thousands of years ago.

Now it's called YueNanMen rather than AnNanMen.
VOTAMVOTU
???
holamon
Lin (Mandarin)/Lam (Canto)/Lim (Teochew) is a Chinese surname. This is the same Lin as in Shao Lin. It means forest in Chinese.
JimTungLe
Byron,

Thanks for providing this article concerning a Vietnamese the father of the PC it is a very interesting and informative article.

Jim Tung Le
DSAS6
a vietnamese is also the creator of the most popular multiplayer Pc game, Counter-strike
ScanSoul
oh yeah vietnamese invented the cd palyer,dvd player,and so on...............lol

seriously i dont see any major oversea-vietnamese companies...like the chinese do....nvidia...yahoo..etc....not to mention the chinese controlled major companies in se asia
VOTAMVOTU
thats amazing scansoul
ho ho ho
ScanSoul
QUOTE (VOTAMVOTU @ Mar 8 2005, 02:55 PM)
thats amazing scansoul
ho ho ho
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whats amazing???????
VOTAMVOTU
i am
ey DSAS6 can you post some info on this cs guy
i cant find any
VinhTruong
People have constantly underestimated Vietnamese accomplishments and achievements over the years. I guess nobody can blame the western media for having an anti-Vietnam bias since we were the only Asian country to kick the U.S. @$$ but I guess that victory came with a huge price.
ScanSoul
QUOTE (VinhTruong @ Mar 8 2005, 09:25 PM)
People have constantly underestimated Vietnamese accomplishments and achievements over the years. I guess nobody can blame the western media for having an anti-Vietnam bias since we were the only Asian country to kick the U.S. @$$ but I guess that victory came with a huge price.
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embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 more laugh
well can u show what are some Vietnamese accomplishments and achievements over the years....the victor wouldnt be a victory without chinas help....
colter
QUOTE (ScanSoul @ Mar 8 2005, 10:42 PM)
QUOTE (VinhTruong @ Mar 8 2005, 09:25 PM)
People have constantly underestimated Vietnamese accomplishments and achievements over the years. I guess nobody can blame the western media for having an anti-Vietnam bias since we were the only Asian country to kick the U.S. @$$ but I guess that victory came with a huge price.
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embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 more laugh
well can u show what are some Vietnamese accomplishments and achievements over the years....the victor wouldnt be a victory without chinas help....
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hahaha...you chinese so pathetic...i don't see you chinese can kick the white boys @$$ to take hongkong's back instead of had it back by mercy. patheic loser

what is the chinese can make an impact in america other than dimsum? lol

now go back to your kitchen where you belong to
PervertBurger
colter, pls do not make me tame you :x
ScanSoul
QUOTE (colter @ Mar 8 2005, 11:10 PM)
QUOTE (ScanSoul @ Mar 8 2005, 10:42 PM)
QUOTE (VinhTruong @ Mar 8 2005, 09:25 PM)
People have constantly underestimated Vietnamese accomplishments and achievements over the years. I guess nobody can blame the western media for having an anti-Vietnam bias since we were the only Asian country to kick the U.S. @$$ but I guess that victory came with a huge price.
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embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 more laugh
well can u show what are some Vietnamese accomplishments and achievements over the years....the victor wouldnt be a victory without chinas help....
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hahaha...you chinese so pathetic...i don't see you chinese can kick the white boys @$$ to take hongkong's back instead of had it back by mercy. patheic loser

what is the chinese can make an impact in america other than dimsum? lol

now go back to your kitchen where you belong to
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i dont bother to argue with u,cuz i dont want anything to do with vietnam.....ur guys are lazy and useless
colter
QUOTE (ScanSoul @ Mar 8 2005, 11:21 PM)
QUOTE (colter @ Mar 8 2005, 11:10 PM)
QUOTE (ScanSoul @ Mar 8 2005, 10:42 PM)
QUOTE (VinhTruong @ Mar 8 2005, 09:25 PM)
People have constantly underestimated Vietnamese accomplishments and achievements over the years. I guess nobody can blame the western media for having an anti-Vietnam bias since we were the only Asian country to kick the U.S. @$$ but I guess that victory came with a huge price.
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embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 more laugh
well can u show what are some Vietnamese accomplishments and achievements over the years....the victor wouldnt be a victory without chinas help....
*




hahaha...you chinese so pathetic...i don't see you chinese can kick the white boys @$$ to take hongkong's back instead of had it back by mercy. patheic loser

what is the chinese can make an impact in america other than dimsum? lol

now go back to your kitchen where you belong to
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i dont bother to argue with u,cuz i dont want anything to do with vietnam.....ur guys are lazy and useless
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is that all you can say? you got owned fu-ker..now fukk off and go back to the kitchen
shorty-s2ooo
...viet people in school are the ones making all the achievements...when i graduated..thats all i heard..was viet names being presented with an achievement.etc...
ScanSoul
take this

China have ruled viet for over 2000 years and china changed the viets culture...and all.......most of japanese culture came from china...china was once the worlds superpower...y didnt maco polo didnt come to viet/??? columbu was actaully searching for china.....we chinese had contrbuted alot of good things to the world the four inventions....and lots more....we had a 5000 years of rich history to tell...even the people who was once the ruler of china have been assimilated to chinee culture....just look at ur own viet cultures its all based on chinese....ur guys use chostick...ur tranditional close are chinese origin....the buildings in vietnam looks like either freanch or chinese....same applies to korea and japan....i must admit that japanese is such an amazing people...but remember that japanese culture is still very chinese...the close they wears is from the tang danysty....ninja was first mention in sunzi's the art of war...way b4 the japnese ninja....karate once was called tangshou dao( the way of tang's hand)
japanese still uses chinese hanzi, they persevered alot of old chinese cultures, i dont see any viet influnce on other culture or nations....vietnam s still the same size(small as hell).....the greatest things about china is that we can assimilate any culture and make them chinese....and then spread them somewhere....like how we did to ur vietnam........japanese still have to lear chinese hanzi which they call it kanji, they still loves the ancient chinese history like the romance of the three kindows, goku from dragon ball is based on chinese classic literature xiyouji ,japanese call it saiyuki thats how much china have influnced on japanese..i dont see any video games that is based on viet except those vietnam war games,and it seems like viet always lose in those games,i can go on and on forever about china.....but i will end at here....

to tell u the trueth,noone cares about vietnam,ur guys have no impat on world culture.......noone is interisted in ur country.....dont blam on me,it was u who started the flaming war,so this is what u get .......
chinas size owned ur viet
colter
QUOTE (ScanSoul @ Mar 8 2005, 11:34 PM)
take this

China have ruled viet for over 2000 years and china changed the viets culture...and all.......most of japanese culture came from china...china was once the worlds superpower...y didnt maco polo didnt come to viet/??? columbu was actaully searching for china.....we chinese had contrbuted alot of good things to the world the four inventions....and lots more....we had a 5000 years of rich history to tell...even the people who was once the ruler of china have been assimilated to chinee culture....just look at ur own viet cultures its all based on chinese....ur guys use chostick...ur tranditional close are chinese origin....the buildings in vietnam looks like either freanch or chinese....same applies to korea and japan....i must admit that japanese is such an amazing people...but remember that japanese culture is still very chinese...the close they wears is from the tang danysty....ninja was first mention in sunzi's the art of war...way b4 the japnese ninja....karate once was called tangshou dao( the way of tang's hand)
japanese still uses chinese hanzi, they persevered alot of old chinese cultures, i dont see any viet influnce on other culture or nations....vietnam s still the same size(small as hell).....the greatest things about china is that we can assimilate any culture and make them chinese....and then spread them somewhere....like how we did to ur vietnam........japanese still have to lear chinese hanzi which they call it kanji, they still loves the ancient chinese history like the romance of the three kindows, goku from dragon ball is based on chinese classic literature xiyouji ,japanese call it saiyuki thats how much china have influnced on japanese..i dont see any video games that is based on viet except those vietnam war games,and it seems like viet always lose in those games,i can go on and on forever about china.....but i will end at here....

to tell u the trueth,noone cares about vietnam,ur guys have no impat on world culture.......noone is interisted in ur country.....dont blam on me,it was u who started the flaming war,so this is what u get .......
chinas size owned ur viet
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hahhaa....didn't i tell you go back to the kitchen that where you belong to....i want some sesame chicken to go please

btw, as far as marcus polo, this guy insn't exist...you guys are good at making some $hit up, we viets wouldn't give a crap about you chinese

i wonder how many years have you sucum the british? you guys lucky to have hongkong's back by mercy otherwise you chineses still call them as a master
ScanSoul
QUOTE (colter @ Mar 8 2005, 11:43 PM)
QUOTE (ScanSoul @ Mar 8 2005, 11:34 PM)
take this

China have ruled viet for over 2000 years and china changed the viets culture...and all.......most of japanese culture came from china...china was once the worlds superpower...y didnt maco polo didnt come to viet/??? columbu was actaully searching for china.....we chinese had contrbuted alot of good things to the world the four inventions....and lots more....we had a 5000 years of rich history to tell...even the people who was once the ruler of china have been assimilated to chinee culture....just look at ur own viet cultures its all based on chinese....ur guys use chostick...ur tranditional close are chinese origin....the buildings in vietnam looks like either freanch or chinese....same applies to korea and japan....i must admit that japanese is such an amazing people...but remember that japanese culture is still very chinese...the close they wears is from the tang danysty....ninja was first mention in sunzi's the art of war...way b4 the japnese ninja....karate once was called tangshou dao( the way of tang's hand)
japanese still uses chinese hanzi, they persevered alot of old chinese cultures, i dont see any viet influnce on other culture or nations....vietnam s still the same size(small as hell).....the greatest things about china is that we can assimilate any culture and make them chinese....and then spread them somewhere....like how we did to ur vietnam........japanese still have to lear chinese hanzi which they call it kanji, they still loves the ancient chinese history like the romance of the three kindows, goku from dragon ball is based on chinese classic literature xiyouji ,japanese call it saiyuki thats how much china have influnced on japanese..i dont see any video games that is based on viet except those vietnam war games,and it seems like viet always lose in those games,i can go on and on forever about china.....but i will end at here....

to tell u the trueth,noone cares about vietnam,ur guys have no impat on world culture.......noone is interisted in ur country.....dont blam on me,it was u who started the flaming war,so this is what u get .......
chinas size owned ur viet
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hahhaa....didn't i tell you go back to the kitchen that where you belong to....i want some sesame chicken to go please

btw, as far as marcus polo, this guy insn't exist...you guys are good at making some $hit up, we viets wouldn't give a crap about you chinese

i wonder how many years have you sucum the british? you guys lucky to have hongkong's back by mercy otherwise you chineses still call them as a master
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you are a ignoront sob........marco polo wasnt existed??? what an idiot...google it up......ur guys were slaves to china.....hong kong was rent to the british for a certain number of year and the time was over so they had to return it to china.and people from hong kong speak chinese not english...british never ruled china, wwe never call them master only slaves like viets that calls people master......like how ur people called china before.......ur guys had to pay trubetes to china...ur guys were lucky to had china helped ur guys out in vietnam war......oh yeah we just took over an island from ur guys and killed a few useless viet fishmen.......
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