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badparticle
西藏同胞們!你們這次奮起反共抗暴,浴血作戰,乃是我中國大陸全體同胞反共革命最莊嚴、光輝的歷史第一頁開始。今日我雖身在臺灣,但我這一顆心,乃是與你們始終一起,反共作戰;尤其是這次拉薩戰爭,我藏胞僧侶,壯烈犧牲,更使我關懷倍切,時刻難忘。我中華民國政府,正在集中一切力量,給你們以繼續有效的援助。並號召海內外全體同胞,共同一致,給予你們以積極的支持。

 你們不是孤立的,你們的反共抗暴運動,不僅是為了藏族全體的生存,為了藏胞個人的自由,發揮了大無畏的精神,並且對於自由亞洲各民族、各宗教的自由與安全,擔當了英勇無比的前鋒,所以世界上一切愛好自由,主張正義的國家和人民,都站在你們這一邊,支援你們!禱祝你們的成功!我中華民國政府,一向尊重西藏固有的政治社會組織,保障西藏人民宗教信仰,和傳統生活的自由。我現在更鄭重聲明:西藏未來的政治制度與政治地位,一俟摧毀匪偽政權之後,西藏人民能自由表示其意志之時,我政府當本民族自決的原則,達成你們的願望

 西藏同胞們!朱毛共匪的傀儡政權,對於你們反共抗暴的革命運動,使用殘忍、狂暴、恐怖、屠殺的手段,企圖加以鎮壓和控制。我深信共匪的武裝暴力,縱能一時破壞你們的寺院,劫掠你們的城市,絕對不能毀滅你們革命的意志,和宗教的信仰。只要你們更加堅決,更加勇敢,繼續不斷的奮鬥到底,我必領導全國軍民,很快的與你們在大陸上約期會師,共同作戰,來完成我們反共抗暴,救國家、救民族、救同胞的神聖使命!
elleX0
Someone please make a short summary IN ENGLISH.
fireplant
disgusting


He does not have even one tenth the character and vision of Mao.
PawnStars
Agreed with Fireplant.

@ Fireplant:

I used to respect Taiwan (ROC) for at least keeping irredentist claims on Outer Mongola per the Succession of States international relations theory... but does this mean if KMT does not want Tibet, it ceases claims on Outer Mongolia too?

fireplant
Chiang is the one that gave up Outer Mongolia in the first place, just because he couldn't take a few threatening sentences from Stalin. Even Truman wondered why was he so unnecessarily weak kneed, since the Potsdam declaration clearly guaranteed China's borders.

Years after Chiang congratulated the Mongolian people on their independence, he lost to the communists and changed his mind about Mongolia. He led China to defeat after defeat yet he wouldn't stop his warmongering until the end. I used to at least admire his political abilities but overall, he's a principleless, opportunistic loud mouth who did not stop embarrassing China until the day he died.
reutty
QUOTE (fireplant @ Sep 17 2011, 09:11 AM) *
Chiang is the one that gave up Outer Mongolia in the first place, just because he couldn't take a few threatening sentences from Stalin. Even Truman wondered why was he so unnecessarily weak kneed, since the Potsdam declaration clearly guaranteed China's borders.

Years after Chiang congratulated the Mongolian people on their independence, he lost to the communists and changed his mind about Mongolia. He led China to defeat after defeat yet he wouldn't stop his warmongering until the end. I used to at least admire his political abilities but overall, he's a principleless, opportunistic loud mouth who did not stop embarrassing China until the day he died.


chiang gave outer mongolia because his armies had to fight the CCP. he wanted to fight the soviet union, many KMT officials xalled the soviet union eveil, but the dumb idiot mao held up the entire ROC army in china.

during 1944 to 1949, the kmt army fought directly against he soviet union during the ili rebellion. the soviet union was supporting uyghur separatists against KMT, the soviet and mongols even bombed and attack Kmt troops to supprt the uyghur

while chiang fought thw soviets, mao tied up most KMT forces in china proper, they could not be srnt to xinjiang to do battle against the soviet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ili_Rebellion
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/伊ê...#20107;变

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pei-ta-shan_Incident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pei-ta-shan_Incident



the soviets were also occupying manchuria and threatened not to withdraw

chiang in 1929 openly seized the manchurian railroad in the sino soviey conflict, bu because his army was tied up by the CCP he couldnt get his regular army or even a piece of $hit to manchuria, the warlord army lef by zhang was defeated by the soviets, after the defeat, people rioted like crazy, chiang couldnt stop them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_conflict_(1929)

chiang kaishek openly provoked britain by meeting gandhi, and suggesting britain should get out of india, during world war 2.

chiang also allowed southern KMT general like zhang fakui to support the VNQDD militarily against french indo china. e invaded northern indo china after world war 2, and would not give it back until france surrendered every single extraterritorial right it took from china.

chiangs government accused the british of imperialism in tibet. chiang also supported the panchen lama when he was driven out by the dalai lama

also, a wealthy kham tibetan named pandatsang ragpa read dr suns three principles, and created a copy of the KMT in tibet, called tibet improvement party, it was funded by chiang.

ragpa and his party started a revolt in tibet in 1934 against dalai lama, he wanted to destroy the lamaist system, and use the three principles in tibet, to make tibet a republic within the ROC, like how tatarstan is a republic inside russia

he also wanted to revolt in the 1940s, and smuggle arms with the KMT into tibet, ragpa was in exile in china and india, since he was persona non grata to the dalai lama, he was also a KMT member, ragpa was expelked from india by the british, after tibet demanded he be arrested.

ragpa then rejoined the KMT in china,

the KMT also planned to secretely build up undercover armies in tibet, and help the panchen lama fight the dalai lama, it infiltrated the dalai lamas court

chiang kaishek did not do rash, hurried attacks after the defeat by the soviets in 1929, he oreffered slow infiltration, and supporting insurgents in guerilla wars, like the vnqqd and ragpa against tibet and france





fireplant
Chiang's KMT was like a big gangster society. It's no surprise they would do some of these things. But overall they could not lead China when they're first priority was to protect every little personal fiefdom that grew around Chiang's regime.
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