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Trias1991
Nguồn: http://2sao.vn/p1004c1006n2011081616360045...oan-vu-2011.vnn

Lần đầu tiên trong lịch sử của cuộc thi sắc đẹp lớn nhất thế giới Hoa Hậu Hoàn Vũ, thí sinh có điểm bầu chọn cao nhấ sẽ lọt vào bán kết với 15 cô gái khác.

Đại diện VN là Á Hậu 1 Hoa Hậu Việt Nam 2010 Vũ Thị Hoàng My:






Cách bầu chọn:




Link: http://www.missuniverse.com/members/contestants

Giờ giấc:

Bắt đầu: 19/08

Việt Nam: 3 giờ sáng
Mỹ(ET): 4pm
Âu Châu(Anh Quốc): 9 o´clock in the evening
Úc(Sydney): 6 o´clock in the evening

Kết thúc: 11/09

Việt Nam: 5 giờ sáng
Mỹ(ET): 6pm
Âu Châu(Anh Quốc): 11 o´clock in the evening
Úc(Sydney): 8 o´clock in the evening

Luu ư: Điểm cuối cùng của một đại diện sẽ là điểm trung b́nh từ mỗi quốc gia. Ví dụ: Việt Nam được 10 điểm tại Việt Nam và tại Mỹ, Việt Nam chỉ được 8 điểm trung b́nh, th́ điểm của VN sẽ là 7 điểm.

Đây là cơ hội lớn cho cả Việt Nam! Mong các bạn ủng hộ quê hương đất nước ḿnh có thể nở mày nở mặt trong cộng đồng quốc tế. Cảm ơn!
Susuma
She looks like Latin beauties, not Vietnamese , really don't like her so much. But always support !
Trias1991
It has officially started!
Tav6
i like her she is pretty

this video of her is for fireplant beerchug.gif embarassedlaugh.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S4R-jjj9Oo...player_embedded
Trias1991
Please, send this post to all Vietnamese forums you know to support Vietnam! Thanks!
Trias1991
Hăy tiếp tục vote nhé bà con. Ḿnh không thể thua Philippines và Thailand! Ủng hộ Việt Nam!
Trias1991
Miss Universe 2011 has started!

Her very first picture after she landed in Brazil:

Trias1991
Romania, Thailand & Vietnam:



She clearly outshines the other girls!

Keep voting for her! Keep supporting Vietnam!
Trias1991
More pics of her during the competition:

Vietnam with her assistant:



Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Japan & Dominican Republic:



Thailand & Vietnam:



Vietnam, Montenegro & Venezuela:



Vietnam outshines in very single phơt the other girls! Good job Vietnam! Keep voting everyday for Vietnam pls!
Trias1991
More pics:

Ireland & Vietnam:



China & Vietnam:



A photographer & Vietnam:



Trinidad & Tobago, Vietnam & Thailand:



Keep voting for her guys! She is really shining over there! Vote every day for her! Support Vietnam!
Trias1991
Miss Vietnam is very popular among the Brazilian medians right now! She is said to be a frontrunner!



Thailand, Singapore & Vietnam:




Vietnam & Korea:



gardenslave
How many time can you vote? How are the votes counted?

How many countries can you vote for?
Miss Singapore, miss China and miss Montenegro seems to be OK too.
Trias1991
QUOTE (gardenslave @ Aug 27 2011, 01:04 PM) *
How many time can you vote? How are the votes counted?

How many countries can you vote for?
Miss Singapore, miss China and miss Montenegro seems to be OK too.


You can vote with one e-mail one time per day. If you have more e-mails, use them for voting for her.

You can only vote for one country with one e-mail per day.

This voting is about points. Not the girl with the highest number of votes will win, but the girl with the highest average score all around the world will win. Let me make an example for you to understand better: Let´s say Miss Vietnam will have 10 points in Vietnam on average and in the USA, she only has 8 points on average. Then they will be combined and the last score of her will be 9.

As you can see, this voting is amde as fair as possible. You can not win if only people of your country vote for you, but not the ones aroudn the world. The location of the voters is linked to the ip address. Here a tip: If you know how to change proxy to another country, then do it and vote for Vietnam. icon_wink.gif
gardenslave
I don't think you can change proxy so that your IP is seen in another country. Using a proxy is like using a random IP isn't it?

And I don't think you can gather enough votes to change the outcome unless you have 1million friends or something.


The best way to make your vote count is probably sabotage the leading vote getter. If you give them a zero, that pulls their weight down much more effectively than if you saturate your vote with a 10 for country.

Let's say if a contestant has an average of a 9 from 10 people, and you vote a 10, you are only pulling that contestant up to 9.09.

But if you were to give that contestant a zero then the average will be 8.18.
Trias1991
QUOTE (gardenslave @ Aug 29 2011, 08:25 AM) *
I don't think you can change proxy so that your IP is seen in another country. Using a proxy is like using a random IP isn't it?

And I don't think you can gather enough votes to change the outcome unless you have 1million friends or something.


The best way to make your vote count is probably sabotage the leading vote getter. If you give them a zero, that pulls their weight down much more effectively than if you saturate your vote with a 10 for country.

Let's say if a contestant has an average of a 9 from 10 people, and you vote a 10, you are only pulling that contestant up to 9.09.

But if you were to give that contestant a zero then the average will be 8.18.


Nope. By changing your proxy to a proxy of a certain country, you are accessing to the internet with that country - your ip will be from that country as well. I am very sure.

Yes, your idea is actually "included" in my tip above. By not voting for a country you don´t want to see it win, you actually give it "0" points.


Trias1991
New pics:

Thailand, USA & Vietnam:





Israel & Vietnam:





gardenslave
QUOTE (Trias1991 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:40 PM) *
Nope. By changing your proxy to a proxy of a certain country, you are accessing to the internet with that country - your ip will be from that country as well. I am very sure.

Yes, your idea is actually "included" in my tip above. By not voting for a country you don´t want to see it win, you actually give it "0" points.


So, if you vote for Vietnam, Vietnam will get 10 points and the rest of the other countries will receive zeros?
Trias1991
QUOTE (gardenslave @ Aug 30 2011, 01:47 PM) *
So, if you vote for Vietnam, Vietnam will get 10 points and the rest of the other countries will receive zeros?


Exactly!
gardenslave
QUOTE (Trias1991 @ Aug 30 2011, 03:10 PM) *
Exactly!


This seems to be more like a popular vote, i.e. the more people voting for you the more likely you'll win. I don't see Vietnam could ever win with a popular vote.

Vietnam should learn something from Venezuela. I don't know what they do but they seem to be right up there at the top all the time. Maybe a nonstop radiant smile? rehearsed answers to tough questions? outgoing personality? money to buy votes? whatever it is they seem to always be there.
XigonCongchua
I'm voting for the Israel girl.
Trias1991
QUOTE (gardenslave @ Aug 31 2011, 02:09 PM) *
This seems to be more like a popular vote, i.e. the more people voting for you the more likely you'll win. I don't see Vietnam could ever win with a popular vote.

Vietnam should learn something from Venezuela. I don't know what they do but they seem to be right up there at the top all the time. Maybe a nonstop radiant smile? rehearsed answers to tough questions? outgoing personality? money to buy votes? whatever it is they seem to always be there.


Be optimistic! Just vote! Miss Vietnam has also a big fanbase.
gardenslave
QUOTE (Trias1991 @ Sep 1 2011, 08:20 AM) *
Be optimistic! Just vote! Miss Vietnam has also a big fanbase.


I am continually voting for her but I'm trying to figure out the best way to win.

I'll try and learn the proxy method and vote for her in Ireland. Vote for her in the countries with less population so that your vote have better weight.
Trias1991
10 more days till the final!

More pics:






Vietnam, Slovak Republic, Switzerland, South Africa, British Virgin Islands:






Keep voting for Vietnam guys!



Trias1991
QUOTE (gardenslave @ Sep 1 2011, 09:28 AM) *
I am continually voting for her but I'm trying to figure out the best way to win.

I'll try and learn the proxy method and vote for her in Ireland. Vote for her in the countries with less population so that your vote have better weight.


Yes, you are absolutely right! Use the proxy servers of less populated countries and less advanced countries, such as coutries in Africa & carribbean!

But you can only use the proxy of countris which are participating.

Which countries are participating can be seen here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe_2011

Here a list of proxy servers:

http://hidemyass.com/proxy-list/

Here a guide how to change proxy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg7pKks9jlo

You are living in Ireland? That´s very good! We need more Viets from smaller countries to vote for her as most Viets are living in USA, Australia, Germany,...etc. Tell your (Viet) friends to vote for her as well.

You have enough email addresses? If not, go to the yahoo chat for collecting emails. Don´t worry, you can use any e-mails as you don´t need to confirm them. But do not use unvalid ones, as I am not sure whether it works.

Thanks!

daxas24
Personally I wouldn't vote for her.
Vietnam has won online voting in Miss World a few times before. I don't want us to win this one.

Hoang My can make top 16 on her own merits.
I didn't care less when I found out she was gonna represent VN at Miss Universe. She was pretty average.
But her recent transformation has won me over. I admire her determination and her pride for her country. To me, she's the best Miss Vietnam at international pageants ever.

If she doesn't make it then it's the way it is. I'm still proud of her. She's done everthing she can.
Go Hoang My
Trias1991
QUOTE (daxas24 @ Sep 1 2011, 10:15 AM) *
Personally I wouldn't vote for her.
Vietnam has won online voting in Miss World a few times before. I don't want us to win this one.

Hoang My can make top 16 on her own merits.
I didn't care less when I found out she was gonna represent VN at Miss Universe. She was pretty average.
But her recent transformation has won me over. I admire her determination and her pride for her country. To me, she's the best Miss Vietnam at international pageants ever.

If she doesn't make it then it's the way it is. I'm still proud of her. She's done everthing she can.
Go Hoang My


Well, they are two different pageants. You said it. She trained VERY HARD - everyday from morning to night in a period of 4 months. Her transformation is the BOMB. That´s why I support her that much. She deserves it. It would be really sad if she could not show her extremly toned body in the final. Yeah, I know; if she is good; she would make it on her own, but remember that this pageant is somehow racist towards Asians and favors Latinas and that´s why the online voting is a change for Vietnam and Asians to make it.
XigonCongchua
I still don't find Hoang My pretty. She seems fake now. I've stopped caring about Miss Universe for a long time. Their standard of beauty is wholly fake latina-looking girls.

Vietnam has been chasing after the standards of these international pageants too much that all the candidates they send either look Western/Latina or have been brushed up to the Latina look. I don't even find our candidate this year attractive. She looks too fake. But then every girl in this pageant looks fake. I believe without all those makeups, photoshop, and dress, they would just look like average joes.
Trias1991
QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Sep 1 2011, 11:28 AM) *
I still don't find Hoang My pretty. She seems fake now. I've stopped caring about Miss Universe for a long time. Their standard of beauty is wholly fake latina-looking girls.

Vietnam has been chasing after the standards of these international pageants too much that all the candidates they send either look Western/Latina or have been brushed up to the Latina look. I don't even find our candidate this year attractive. She looks too fake. But then every girl in this pageant looks fake. I believe without all those makeups, photoshop, and dress, they would just look like average joes.


Well, it´s ok as beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and people have different tastes. I have been following your thread about Viet girls and it is obvious that you like the type of girls that are cute, shy, act innocent and are somewht traditional. It´s absolutely ok, but you can´t bring these girls to international beauty pageants if you want to place high or even bring hown the crown, especially Miss Universe.

Miss Universe is a beauty pageant that loves sexy, modern, fierce, independant, confident, a little bit b!tchy and physically fit girls.

Hoang My was chosen to compete in Miss Universe and to suit the concept of Miss Universe, she has to change some things, but I don´t think that it is bad. Her look right know suits the concept of MU perfectly, but she still shows the traditional side of Vietnamese girls.

You know, what we consider as beautiful in Vietnam isn´t necessarily beautiful in the eyes of the international community. You have to have international appeal to be successful.
XigonCongchua
Nope. This whole world just turns racist by emphasizing on one kind of beauty, specifically Latina-like, and neglect others. It'd be great if Ngô Phương Lan represents Vietnam in Miss World or Miss Universe, I don't care if she wins, let the world know there are other kinds of beauty out there, let them be represented equally. I hate it when we chase after beauty standard of other countries, and because Latin countries have been dominating the crowns of international pageants, the whole world is chasing after their beauty. It just absolutely sucks. It's not about fierce, independent blah blah, there are girls that look fierce + independent blah blah but in a Vietnamese way, the girl who just won that model competition in Vietnam is an example.

Even Hoang Mi looked better before she was brushed up into a fake girl to me, even though she was just like an average joe.
gardenslave
QUOTE (Trias1991 @ Sep 1 2011, 10:05 AM) *
Yes, you are absolutely right! Use the proxy servers of less populated countries and less advanced countries, such as coutries in Africa & carribbean!

But you can only use the proxy of countris which are participating.

Which countries are participating can be seen here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe_2011

Here a list of proxy servers:

http://hidemyass.com/proxy-list/

Here a guide how to change proxy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg7pKks9jlo

You are living in Ireland? That´s very good! We need more Viets from smaller countries to vote for her as most Viets are living in USA, Australia, Germany,...etc. Tell your (Viet) friends to vote for her as well.

You have enough email addresses? If not, go to the yahoo chat for collecting emails. Don´t worry, you can use any e-mails as you don´t need to confirm them. But do not use unvalid ones, as I am not sure whether it works.

Thanks!


No, no , no, I'm not going to use others' e-mail addresses. I'll just use my own.

I don't live in Ireland. It's just a suggestion because I think Ireland has only like a million people or some thing and maybe 10 people would turn in and vote.


I agree that the miss Universe contestants are too superficial, striving for the glamorous unnatural look. Also they are being too boastful and arrogant. Every contestant is like that. If only miss Vietnam would be different, modest, soft tone, shy, wear a simple ao dai, no make up, talk with bánh bao in their mouth, and maybe the judges will take notice more. Not going to happen, but I'll support anyway I can.
minhphan
i agree she doesn't look like an average Vietnamese... she looks more like Philllippines or Latina
Miss Vietnam Universe 2011 Web Interview got most viewed on Youtube maybe some1 hacked views?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A7c3L7Fra0
Tav6
QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Sep 1 2011, 09:14 AM) *
Nope. This whole world just turns racist by emphasizing on one kind of beauty, specifically Latina-like, and neglect others. It'd be great if Ngô Phương Lan represents Vietnam in Miss World or Miss Universe, I don't care if she wins, let the world know there are other kinds of beauty out there, let them be represented equally. I hate it when we chase after beauty standard of other countries, and because Latin countries have been dominating the crowns of international pageants, the whole world is chasing after their beauty. It just absolutely sucks. It's not about fierce, independent blah blah, there are girls that look fierce + independent blah blah but in a Vietnamese way, the girl who just won that model competition in Vietnam is an example.

Even Hoang Mi looked better before she was brushed up into a fake girl to me, even though she was just like an average joe.



sadly ngo phuong lan does not want to participate in international pageant
i read on the news that said that viet company that holds the licence to send delegates to international pageant asked ngo phuong lan if she would like to represent vn @ international pageant several times but she refused

so a lot of times viet company dont have a lot of choices to go by because a lot of these girls do not care for international beauty pageant icon_neutral.gif

Trias1991
Finland, Vietnam & China:




nevergone
QUOTE (Trias1991 @ Sep 1 2011, 12:47 PM) *
Well, it´s ok as beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and people have different tastes. I have been following your thread about Viet girls and it is obvious that you like the type of girls that are cute, shy, act innocent and are somewht traditional. It´s absolutely ok, but you can´t bring these girls to international beauty pageants if you want to place high or even bring hown the crown, especially Miss Universe.

Miss Universe is a beauty pageant that loves sexy, modern, fierce, independant, confident, a little bit b!tchy and physically fit girls.

Hoang My was chosen to compete in Miss Universe and to suit the concept of Miss Universe, she has to change some things, but I don´t think that it is bad. Her look right know suits the concept of MU perfectly, but she still shows the traditional side of Vietnamese girls.

You know, what we consider as beautiful in Vietnam isn´t necessarily beautiful in the eyes of the international community. You have to have international appeal to be successful.

I agreed with you Trias. Miss Universe isn't about beauty alone, thus beauty is in eye of beholders. Hoang My, she looks so fine to represent for Vietnam at Miss Universe. The girl you argue with (I dont want to call out her name she'd jump in and say why I kept talking about her) she said in somewhere that Saigon girl is the ugliest girls, I was like huh? so you could guess what her standard beauty look like base on that statement.
XigonCongchua
^ What a great twist right there, jerk. I never said Saigon girls are the ugliest. Learn how to read. I said Saigon has a higher percentage of uglies out of all the places I listed (and that's all true if you ever lived there, but I don't think you even went back there). I also said it didn't mean the pretty girls in Saigon are less pretty than the girls of other places.

QUOTE (Tav6 @ Sep 2 2011, 11:09 PM) *
sadly ngo phuong lan does not want to participate in international pageant
i read on the news that said that viet company that holds the licence to send delegates to international pageant asked ngo phuong lan if she would like to represent vn @ international pageant several times but she refused

so a lot of times viet company dont have a lot of choices to go by because a lot of these girls do not care for international beauty pageant icon_neutral.gif

That's sad. icon_sad.gif
I think the girl who just won the model competition could be a good representative too
I liked Hoang My before but now she just looks too fake icon_sad.gif
nevergone
QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Sep 2 2011, 07:31 PM) *
I said Saigon has a higher percentage of uglies out of all the places I listed.

Same thing what different? less bias? I was wondering what your standards of beauties that led to such statement that Saigon has the highest % of ugliest? because they are natural ugliest that's why they have higher percent of ugliest?

Do you know that Saigon was where all the beauties from all regions around come to work and live?
XigonCongchua
Why don't you get some brain and understand the differences in the statements? As I suspected, you lack basic reading skills and you don't even know what I said. You probably failed in statistics too.

Lots of migrants workers come to Saigon, among the migrants workers there are the uglies along with the pretty girls. As if only attractive girls move to Saigon and unattractive people don't. icon_rolleyes.gif

The prettiest ones in Saigon may be prettier than the prettiest ones in Hanoi, but the ugly ones in Saigon are also uglier than the ones that are considered "ugly" in Hanoi.

Get it?

In Saigon, the beauty bell curve is wider than in Hanoi. Do you know I mean by that statement? Take some statistics class.

I'm leaving for Bắc Ninh. Not gonna have time here to argue with somebody who got personal problem with me like you.
Tav6
QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Sep 2 2011, 03:31 PM) *
^ What a great twist right there, jerk. I never said Saigon girls are the ugliest. Learn how to read. I said Saigon has a higher percentage of uglies out of all the places I listed (and that's all true if you ever lived there, but I don't think you even went back there). I also said it didn't mean the pretty girls in Saigon are less pretty than the girls of other places.


That's sad. icon_sad.gif
I think the girl who just won the model competition could be a good representative too
I liked Hoang My before but now she just looks too fake icon_sad.gif



well the problem is that Khiếu Thị Huyền Trang the girl who won Vietnam next top model is just a model though and not a "miss" and i dont think she is interested in beauty pageant because she is more into modeling competition and her focus is more being an international model than a "miss"
nevergone
QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Sep 2 2011, 07:49 PM) *
Why don't you get some brain and understand the differences in the statements? As I suspected, you lack basic reading skills and you don't even know what I said. You probably failed in statistics too.

Lots of migrants workers come to Saigon, among the migrants workers there are the uglies along with the pretty girls. As if only attractive girls move to Saigon and unattractive people don't. icon_rolleyes.gif

The prettiest ones in Saigon may be prettier than the prettiest ones in Hanoi, but the ugly ones in Saigon are also uglier than the ones that are considered "ugly" in Hanoi.

Get it?

In Saigon, the beauty bell curve is wider than in Hanoi. Do you know I mean by that statement? Take some statistics class.

I'm leaving for Bắc Ninh. Not gonna have time here to argue with somebody who got personal problem with me like you.



You said about statistic where did you get the statistic that stating Saigon has higher percentage of ugly?

Base on what statistic ? or base on your assumption of your bias view?

You do know that majority factories located in Dong Nai, not Saigon. Saigon is trading cities as well as financial services. The majority workers come to Saigon among the beauties of other regions around it. They come to Saigon working in those beauties salons, massage, Karaoke, sales and prostitution (aka Cave) ...etc. these jobs requires certain degree of looking.

You stated that "Saigon has a higher percentage of uglies out of all the places" please show me any statistic, proofs which saying Saigon has higher percents of ugly compare to other regions. The fact, higher percent of beauties in Saigon city, NOT in those rural areas or mountains. It is clearly that you are ignorant and bias but when someone point out you deny it. Hell, it is not first time.

Last, I won't deny that the statement "Saigon has ugliest girl" and "Saigon has higher percent of ugly" are different, However in term of bias they are the same.
Tav6
miss russia thinks that miss vietnam is among top 5 most beautiful !!!!

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QUOTE
Hoa hậu Nga dự đoán Hoàng My vào top 5

Trên blog của ḿnh, người đẹp xứ bạch dương cho rằng, đại diện Việt Nam là thí sinh ấn tượng nhất trong số các mỹ nhân châu Á tại Miss Universe 2011.
> Nhiều thí sinh Miss Universe từng phẫu thuật thẩm mỹ/ Hoa hậu Nga dồn sức cho Miss Universe 2011

Natalia Gantimurova là một trong những người đẹp chăm chỉ viết blog cập nhật thông tin và đưa ra b́nh luận của ḿnh về cuộc thi. Trong một bài viết gần đây, cô đă chia sẻ những nhận xét khá thẳng thắn về các thí sinh Miss Universe.

Mở đầu, Natalia bày tỏ suy nghĩ của ḿnh về cô bạn cùng pḥng - Hoa hậu Italy - Elisa Torrini. “Cô ấy đẹp, quyến rũ và ngọt ngào”, Natalia viết.

Người đẹp Nga cho biết, cô đă dành rất nhiều thời gian để quan sát 88 cô gái dự thi. “Họ đều tuyệt vời và mỗi người có một vẻ đẹp riêng. Cũng phải, bởi đây là những cô gái đẹp nhất ở từng quốc gia... Đây là một thế giới khác, thế giới của những cô gái khác nhau, đến từ nhiều vùng khác nhau trên thế giới và cùng chia sẻ một điểm chung - đó là sắc đẹp”, Natalia Gantimurova.

Tiếp đó, Natalia chia thí sinh thành nhiều nhóm để đưa ra nhận xét riêng của ḿnh. Trong nhóm châu Á, Hoa hậu Nga ấn tượng nhất với đại diện Việt Nam; với nhóm Latin là Hoa hậu Panama; với nhóm châu Âu là đại diện của Bỉ và Thụy Điển. Cô không mấy ấn tượng với thí sinh châu Phi và châu Mỹ, ngoại trừ người đẹp Angola.

Người đẹp Nga đặc biệt ca ngợi nhan sắc của Hoa hậu Australia Scherri-lee Biggs và Hoa hậu Pháp Laury Thilleman. Theo Natalia, đó là những vẻ đẹp tự nhiên và tràn đầy sức sống. Trong cuộc gặp gỡ báo chí hôm 31/8, Scherri và Laury cũng khẳng định, họ chưa từng chỉnh sửa nhan sắc, khi được hỏi về chuyện phẫu thuật thẩm mỹ. Natalia cũng đánh giá cao đại diện Libăng - cô gái không sở hữu những đường nét đặc biệt nhưng luôn thu hút người đối diện bằng một năng lượng bí ẩn nào đó ở bên trong.

Bên cạnh những người đẹp gây ấn tượng tốt, Natalia cũng tỏ rơ thái độ thất vọng với một số thí sinh. “Tôi đă rất thất vọng với một số cô gái. H́nh ảnh họ ngoài đời thực khác hẳn với những ǵ tôi thấy trên báo chí”.

Trong số đó, Hoa hậu Mỹ Alyssa Campanella là người gây thất vọng sâu sắc nhất cho Natalia. “Tôi không muốn viết quá chi tiết, nhưng Alyssa trong ảnh và Alyssa ngoài đời thực là hai người khác hẳn, như một sự lừa đảo vậy”, cô viết.

Đại diện Albania và Kosovo, theo Natalia, cũng là những thí sinh “thiếu xinh đẹp” tại cuộc thi. Cô ví von, “nh́n họ, tôi như một đứa trẻ bị tan vỡ giấc mơ lung linh thời thơ bé”.

Cuối cùng, Natalia Gantimurova đưa ra dự đoán của ḿnh về top 5 cuộc thi, gồm Australia, Bỉ, Pháp, Việt Nam và Thụy Điển. Cô hy vọng, họ đều là những vẻ đẹp tự nhiên chưa qua chỉnh sửa. Tuy nhiên, Natalia cũng chia sẻ, top 5 dự đoán của cô có thể c̣n thay đổi theo lịch tŕnh Miss Universe.


http://vnexpress.net/gl/van-hoa/2011/09/ho...g-my-vao-top-5/
Tav6
i hope hoang my will wear this red dress for the final beerchug.gif
Tav6
here is the English translation of miss russia's blog


QUOTE ("Sabiondo")
Miss Russia has updated his blog-Journey on Miss Universe 2011 (Im Sorry for the bad translations, but trying is trying :=p icon_smile.gif>- :-D

Day Three

Finally came my roommate!
It's beautiful, charming, sweet)
Midnight before she left, I remembered the Italian language and it seems to me with success. There is contact icon_smile.gif))

In the morning was the official shooting in swimsuit and evening gown.
I was passed in one go, without any complications.
And just today I decided to consider the girls, cause it finally came to EVERYTHING.

To begin with her, I'm really pleased beyond measure, as among to be one of the most beautiful girls in the world.
Each of them are wonderful and inimitable, everybody is already the best in the country. I Looking at them - its an great pleasure for me.
Today are in preparation for shooting, I wrote to my friend Christina that everything that happens here - incredibly aesthetically pleasing. This is an special case, an different world, a world of different women from different points of the world, united by a single concept - They are beautiful. I am proud that I'm here. And thank to god for this destiny. :=p

Nevertheless, I was waiting and i was went disappointed of some girls, when i saw their beauties that i literally fell in love when i was looking their pictures on the Internet, didn't meet my expectations in the real life.

So, the girls was have divided into several groups, in not particular principle is not elected, i was settled on these categories: Asians - (here me the most impressive Vietnam); Latinas - they always are freeze at a temperature of 14 C at the hotel, the poors they would won't imagine, on the Moscow winter! ))-(of which I was highlight by Panama, but im not sure if his latin attribute could to it correctly , and Peru); Europeans - The most difficult category, most of them are blonde and blue-eyed. Among them I like the Belgian, my dears she looks like Reese Witherspoon, she makes a good impression in me and she is nice, and France! That's another girl who are really beautiful - she radiates positive energy in many, even in many square meters around it, also was like Sweden - She have an inimitable facial expressions & good energy, next to her to be nice girl (plus it is very similar to my sister Cristina who arises the impression that someone near native of you). African-American girls: Looks not too impressed me, except for by Angola, which is quite sympathetic & have an good-tempered :=p , and there are also girls that I find it difficult to refer to a certain category, such as the USA, Kosovo, Albania, Australia, Lebanon.

They have turned me off as in an category. And it is not because each of them - are my favorite.

Unfortunately, the U.S. representative was among those who are deeply disappointed in me. I don't want to talk about it in detail, but Alyssa in the photo & Alyssa in the real life - are two totally different people. - SHE MEAN A BIG DECEPTION >:) >:)

Albania & Kosovo, In the same way both are verry bad looking in the real life, really.... I saw them - and as if the child's dream didn't come true. >:) >:) >:)

I remember also, Miss Lebanon.... More than..... Having not the regular features, it attracts the attention. Apparently it deep in their inner energy who i really like.

But Sherri Lee of Australia is truly amazing. :!! :!! There don't flaws in her, at least for now it seems to me that way.

At the end of today I have my Top 5. I think that during my stay here will change, but so far it looks like this: Australia, Belgium, France, Vietnam & Sweden.

She wrote it, and caught myself thinking that none of them is a product of Plastic Surgery. Still, I go for the natural beauty.

I think tomorrow will be another good day.

I Miss Moscow, and on some of its residents - Especially...¡¡¡

P.S... I'm going to enjoy socializing with my Italian beauty. icon_smile.gif>-


Sounce: http://gantim.livejournal.com/1223.html

daxas24
@XG What do you mean by her looking fake?
Because her skin is tanned, because her body is a bomb, because she spent the last 4 months in the gym.
I suppose you don't go to gym often if at all. It's very challenging. It requires alot of determination and spirit to get to her level and I admire that.

I like her much better this way. Her skin was way too light before. Light-skinned chicks sort of scare me. It just feels really unhealthy. She was one of the girls that made me go "nah, boring, next one plz". Now, she becomes my favourite Miss Vietnam ever. If you do follow her blogs and interviews, you would know she's deep thinker and seems extremely down to earth. She's the one that gives me confidence should she make top 5 and do her interview unlike other Miss Vietnam.
Tav6
hoang my is 100% natural no plastic surgery she work hard for her body beerchug.gif
XigonCongchua
nevergone, you don't know anything about Vietnam so just stop dragging me into your silly arguments. One or two pretty girls come to Saigon once in a while but a bunch of unattractive people come here everyday, I don't need any statistics to prove anything (when I said you don't understand statistics, I was talking about your inability to distinguish the two statements because, I said "the ugliest girls are found in Saigon", and you turned it into "Saigon girls are ugliest", looks like you didn't understand what I meant by that statement regarding statistics and hence you asked me to provide charts, numbers blah blah), just come there and see, and please don't just stay at night clubs and massage places, go out and see the REAL people. I'm not saying there are not many pretty girls in Saigon, I'm saying the percentage of unattractive people there are higher than in Hanoi and Quang Ninh.

Also, before you twist what I say any further, take this analogy - if one says "The ugliest [white] girls are in the US" or "The US has higher percentage of ugly [white] girls than Canada/Australia/European countries", are you gonna bring up all the Hollywood stars and hot American girls and the fact that all beauties came to the US blah blah blah to lead a pointless argument with that person?

Just for the record, I haven't been to other Southern provinces, so it's possible that the Mekong provinces got higher percentage of unattractive girls than in Saigon, but the percentage in fuglies in Hanoi and Quang Ninh are definitely lower than in Saigon. I don't know why you're trying to pick a fight with me on this.

@daxas: Her face is kinda emotionless now, and she wears too much makeup, her face looks cakey.
XigonCongchua
Hm...I've been here for over a month and it looks like it's almost indisputable to Vietnamese that "gái bắc nh́n chung xinh hơn gái nam" and "gái bắc xinh đồng đều, gái nam xinh chênh lệch, có người xinh th́ quá xinh mà có người xấu th́ quá xấu" (quoting one of my friends, which I find to be true).

8:27pm: just checked out vnexpress and Hoang My's pictures there aren't bad. In the pics Trias posted, her face look tooo cakey like she got a ton of cream of her face.
suidicalmonkey300
I am too smart to argue. I'll just tell my online girlfriend "I am planning my death," whenever I don't like what she's doing and she comes back running to me crying and begging me. icon_redface.gif






ou a banana.
suidicalmonkey300
QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Sep 3 2011, 04:59 AM) *
nevergone, you don't know anything about Vietnam so just stop dragging me into your silly arguments. One or two pretty girls come to Saigon once in a while but a bunch of unattractive people come here everyday, I don't need any statistics to prove anything (when I said you don't understand statistics, I was talking about your inability to distinguish the two statements because, I said "the ugliest girls are found in Saigon", and you turned it into "Saigon girls are ugliest", looks like you didn't understand what I meant by that statement regarding statistics and hence you asked me to provide charts, numbers blah blah), just come there and see, and please don't just stay at night clubs and massage places, go out and see the REAL people. I'm not saying there are not many pretty girls in Saigon, I'm saying the percentage of unattractive people there are higher than in Hanoi and Quang Ninh.

Also, before you twist what I say any further, take this analogy - if one says "The ugliest [white] girls are in the US" or "The US has higher percentage of ugly [white] girls than Canada/Australia/European countries", are you gonna bring up all the Hollywood stars and hot American girls and the fact that all beauties came to the US blah blah blah to lead a pointless argument with that person?

Just for the record, I haven't been to other Southern provinces, so it's possible that the Mekong provinces got higher percentage of unattractive girls than in Saigon, but the percentage in fuglies in Hanoi and Quang Ninh are definitely lower than in Saigon. I don't know why you're trying to pick a fight with me on this.

@daxas: Her face is kinda emotionless now, and she wears too much makeup, her face looks cakey.


Agree with Xigon. hihi icon_redface.gif

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nevergone
QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Sep 3 2011, 05:59 AM) *
nevergone, you don't know anything about Vietnam so just stop dragging me into your silly arguments. One or two pretty girls come to Saigon once in a while but a bunch of unattractive people come here everyday, I don't need any statistics to prove anything (when I said you don't understand statistics, I was talking about your inability to distinguish the two statements because, I said "the ugliest girls are found in Saigon", and you turned it into "Saigon girls are ugliest", looks like you didn't understand what I meant by that statement regarding statistics and hence you asked me to provide charts, numbers blah blah), just come there and see, and please don't just stay at night clubs and massage places, go out and see the REAL people. I'm not saying there are not many pretty girls in Saigon, I'm saying the percentage of unattractive people there are higher than in Hanoi and Quang Ninh.

Also, before you twist what I say any further, take this analogy - if one says "The ugliest [white] girls are in the US" or "The US has higher percentage of ugly [white] girls than Canada/Australia/European countries", are you gonna bring up all the Hollywood stars and hot American girls and the fact that all beauties came to the US blah blah blah to lead a pointless argument with that person?

Just for the record, I haven't been to other Southern provinces, so it's possible that the Mekong provinces got higher percentage of unattractive girls than in Saigon, but the percentage in fuglies in Hanoi and Quang Ninh are definitely lower than in Saigon. I don't know why you're trying to pick a fight with me on this.

@daxas: Her face is kinda emotionless now, and she wears too much makeup, her face looks cakey.


Bold 1: You are funny, it was you who brought up the statistic then I asked you show some me those statistics, then you said you don't need statistic.

Bold 2: You stated that ""Saigon has a higher percentage of uglies out of all the places" now you changed it to "I'm saying the percentage of unattractive people there are higher than in Hanoi and Quang Ninh."

I don't think the two equivalent, the first statement you said "all places" second statement you said " Hanoi and Quang Ninh" huh?

Unlike you, I did NOT twist any word, it was just not as close the original one and I did not deny that. meanwhile you kept chaining the word one mean to another mean in favor for your argument.

Even the second statement still bias, according to what made you said that " the percentage in fuglies in Hanoi and Quang Ninh are definitely lower than in Saigon ", base on what beauties standards? based on what statistic? huh? Hell, seem you tried to link yourself to Hanoi, you praising Hanoi in many of your threads, while talk bad about Saigon. This is not cool.

You clearly bias in every statements, hell you always deny what you said, this is called "Self deception". I remembered you asked me if I know about "Rhetoric". The fact is you clearly know nothing about "Rhetoric".

When you make statement about something try avoid "All" word, that will make your statement fall into fallacies. This is basic of "Rhetoric reasoning"

Don't try to be smart a$$ as there are many geniuses in this world and you are not one of them.
XigonCongchua
Seriously nevergone, are you purposely trying to annoy me by twisting my words? I'm beginning to suspect you're that same guy who's been sending me stupid msgs over fb.

1. Didn't I make it clear in the beginning that "all the places" means - Hanoi, Quang Ninh, Vung Tau, and Saigon (the places that I've been to)? Vung Tau and Saigon are basically next to each other so there's not much distinction though I didn't see as many uglies in Vung Tau most likely because they're tourists. And now you're trying to make it sound like all the places mean all of Vietnam. What a jackass.

2. What the fu-k. I never tried to validate anything with specific statistics, I merely commented that Saigon seems to have higher percentage of uglies, and you twisted my comment into "Saigon girls are the ugliest [in Vietnam?]" and I was telling you the whole time: stop twisting what I said. It was never my job to prove anything, I don't care if you believe it or not, just do not fu-king twist what I said. I particularly hate it when people twist my words for whatever agenda they have. And over the course of argument now for some reason you turned it into my job to prove anything?

This was what I said, do not twist it, get it? I never said Saigon girls are the ugliest in Vietnam, what I said was the ugliest girls I've seen are in Saigon (doesn't mean vast majority of Saigonese girls are ugly, I said you can't comprehend statistics because you automatically assumed vast majority of Saigon girls are ugly merely because the ugliest ones are found there, out of the places listed). I never said ALL of Vietnam either, you put that word there, it's part of the twisting you've been doing.
QUOTE (XigonCongchua @ Sep 1 2011, 12:17 AM) *
I heard Tuyên Quang girls are the prettiest in Vietnam but haven't been there. embarassedlaugh.gif I think the ugliest girls are in Saigon, but then again I have only been to Saigon, Hanoi, Vung Tau, and Quảng Ninh. embarassedlaugh.gif To be fair, there are uglies and pretties in all places, I'm not saying the pretty girls in Hanoi are prettier than the pretty girls in Saigon but it seems that Saigon has a higher percentage of uglies and Hanoi has higher percentage of cuties. But Hanoi girls aren't extraordinary. Well the average ones are just pleasing to the eyes, not super-hot like Thai stars like someone put it earlier.


Don't even talk about rhetoric when you can't even comprehend a post.

Lastly, why are you bothered about whether I'm smart or not? What the heck does that have to with anything here? I can be a dumbass if that makes you feel happier and gives you more self-esteem or whatever you wish, but how is it relevant? Are you trying to start another unrelated argument?
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