QUOTE (samsib @ Jul 28 2011, 03:32 AM)

Actually, Thai people don't call any noodle dish as "Thai Pho" at all. They always call " Kuay Tiew" which mean rice noodle in Teochew chinese ,or they call " Bamee" which mean egg noodle.
Also, Here in Australia, all of my non-Thai friends simply call " Thai noodle" and there are some of Malaysian and Singaporean friends of mine call "Thai kuay tiew".
But I dont know about how people call them in other part of the world .
For example,
Tom Yum noodle = Kuay tiew Tomyum
Boat noodle = Kuay tiew reu
Sukhothai noodle = Kuay tiew sukhothai
http://thai-laos-food.blogspot.com/2006/07...ho-noodles.htmlhttp://www.lotuscafeabq.com/thai-phohttp://thai-laos-food.blogspot.com/2007/01...oodle-soup.htmlplenty of them. Even on youtube.
Isn't that annoying?

At least to me. I can't stand the way other Southeast Asians just go around and think any rice noodle can be passed as pho. Even when they don't call it phở, they still refer to their rice noodle as "[enter country] version of phở", like what NagaPrincess did here. She called Ka Tieu the "Khmer version" of phở. I saw Thai people on this forum and other forums did similar thing too.
"We also have pho in our country."
"Really? What is it called?"
"It's called pad Thai in our country"or
"It's called Kuay Tiew in our country"or
"It's called Ka Tieu in our country"WTH lol.
On wikipedia discussions, there were also suggestions coming from some Thai people about merging the articles of phở and Kuay Tiew together into one article because they think Kuy Teo is the Thai version of phở.
They think phở is just any rice noodle and any rice noodle can be referred to as pho. So ignorant.
Here are some comments in the discussion section of wikipedia about pho

It's hilarious to me how other Southeast Asians came to this page and reject the notion of "phở" originating from Northern Vietnam because according to them, other Southeast Asian countries have "pho" too rotf
"
in thailand, called "kuay tiow" or simply "bowl of noodles" and made of pure rice (no flour). my grandma is 80 and she says she learned how to make it from her grandparents so it must be old. i think pho is just generic term for it but the same thing is eaten all over south asia with different name. must be a really old dish before europe invader i think, maybe china made it up they been eating noodles for thousand years and cultivated rice for even longer. makes sense it might of came from china. saying vietnam or france made up rice noodle is just like saying japan invented the "rice ball" yeah right. (the moviedude)"
"The fact of pho originating from North Vietnam is a misconception. Actually pho "noodles" themselves were around south east asia long before, probably dating hundreds of years. It's quite noticeable in where pho is enjoyed, such as countries like Thailand, Laos, Cambodia ect. Not likley vietnamese influence spread to these countries in such short a time that each country developed such a diverse style. Acutally the majority of the culture/food/ect of the region is directley influenced either by china or thai/siamese. Most ingredients (including the noodles) are written with Thai/Chinese labels. Just in the recent couple decades has pho actually made its way into the USA. Most in part of the influx of South East Asians into the USA, most notible are the Vietanamese refugees from the 60-70's. Prior to that, the South East Asian population was low and Pho was unheard of to the western world. Some shops in California is starting to go beyond "basic" Pho. Just ask a Lao or Thai friend to make some Pho, you'll understand. One thing is for sure, without the Vietnamese, America would have not been able to discover the greatest jewl of South East Asia, Pho.""Almost all Asian countries have a noodle dish. Where the hell does it say the Vietnamese invented noodles? What they invented was this particular noodle DISH. Of course if you add other crap like coconut juice then it's not pho anymore now, is it?
Hey people here's a question. What if I had a burger and added other crap like bacon to it, would it still be called a burger? Pho came from Laos""Lets face it, steamed rice stick, beef broth, and a local few spices. In my opinion, "Pho" as we know it is a product of the greater South East Asia, (Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Southern China) and not exclusive to Vietnam (except the name)"[/b]
Rotf those people are hilarious

I'm glad some Vietnamese came and said this. He nailed it down. Not any rice noodle can be passed as "phở"
"This discussion is laughable. In Vietnamese "pho" is not synonymous with noodle; rather, it is the name of a specific noodle dish prepared with a specific kind of rice noodle and specific kind of soup. The Vietnamese have different names for different kinds of noodles (besides "pho", there are also "bun", "mien", "mi",and "banh da") so please don't lump every noodle dish that you know together under the name "pho". If a noodle dish looks different and tastes different from the Vietnamese "pho" then of course it's NOT "pho". Call it by the name it's called in its native country. I don't think the Laotians or the Chinese would be pleased to hear that their noodle dishes are labeled "pho" by some people. (A native Vietnamese)"I think this is what happened:
- The Vietnamese immigrants brought phở to Western countries and popularized it. Prior to this, the world didn't know much about rice noodle at all, phở were probably the first and most famous rice noodle they knew of, so they started calling every rice noodle dish as pho

Other Southeast Asian immigrants then started thinking phở is just rice noodle and they referred to the rice noodle of their country as their version of phở. They did all this without realizing that Vietnamese are very specific about their noodles - noodles with different shapes, different textures are all given different names in Vietnamese, then different broths and different cooking methods also give the dish different names. But things dragged on and a huge misconception about phở was created...to the point when non-Viet people called something like this "phở" as flexzero said

^ Any Vietnamese would know that's not phở at all! Not only are the noodles different (phở is flat rectangular rice noodles, the small thin round rice noodles like in that picture is called "bún", not "phở") but the broth is also different. Yet, like flexzero, I've seen many people label phở with pictures like that, and as a native Vietnamese, of course I'm upset because they're skewing the image of phở. But there's nothing I can do.