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JimTungLe
The Vietnamese Constitutional Monarchist League Reports:



Tran Dung Tien is a long-time Communist Party member and military veteran.

He was a Bodyguard for Ho Chi Minh.

Tran Dung Tien was arrested by public security in Hanoi.

He was taken away after writing an essay protesting the arrests of Pham Que Duong and Tran Khue.

In the essay, Tran Dung Tien also reported that authorities had confiscated a list with names of people who had joined the Citizens' Association Against Corruption.

These individuals are now under threat of persecution themselves.

Tran Dung Tien's whereabouts are currently unknown to his family.
DavidPham


It is so ashame, he served them for so many years and now, they throw him in jail.

It is definitly time for a New Government to remove these, Corrupted Officials in Hanoi.

My brothers and sisters in Vietnam, and all exiles living abroad should be able to vote who we want to represent our country.
Johannjs
I agree that we should replace everybody with peasant wannabe corrupted and traitors.
antopho
So that's the price of trying to bring changes, eh
JimTungLe
User: Johannjs
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I agree that we should replace everybody with peasant wannabe corrupted and traitors.


That is not the answer, only Democratic elections that are monitored by the United Nations shall ensure no fruad committed by all parties.

This will give the Vietnamese People their Long Awaited United Vietnam.

Jim Tung Le
JimTungLe
User: antopho
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So that's the price of trying to bring changes, eh


Yes, Presently in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam this is the standard.

It is ashame !

Communism is not the future for Vietnam.

Democratic Elections is the key for our future.
kts_new
QUOTE (JimTungLe @ Jan 19 2005, 06:39 AM)
The Vietnamese Constitutional Monarchist League Reports:



Tran Dung Tien is a long-time Communist Party member and military veteran.

He was a Bodyguard for Ho Chi Minh.

Tran Dung Tien was arrested by public security in Hanoi.

He was taken away after writing an essay protesting the arrests of Pham Que Duong and Tran Khue.

In the essay, Tran Dung Tien also reported that authorities had confiscated a list with names of people who had joined the Citizens' Association Against Corruption.

These individuals are now under threat of persecution themselves.

Tran Dung Tien's whereabouts are currently unknown to his family.
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Can you show me where u find this news? Or this is just what u imagine in ur deep dream.I wonder if u can prove the truth of what u say without any clues. In my mind, u'll be like the before crazy men, will end the life in prizzzzn, the price for what u did for ur motherland. thumbsdown.gif
antopho
haha, if this was Vietnam, we'd be arrested for speaking our minds. Well yeah, Vietnam needs to have democratic elections. I mean, a country can have a drought and it'll survive, a country can be war torn and it can survive, but a county that lacks power to the people? That's like a brick trying to protect a village. We need to BUILD a wall, you see.
JimTungLe
User: kts_new
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Can you show me where u find this news? Or this is just what u imagine in ur deep dream.I wonder if u can prove the truth of what u say without any clues. In my mind, u'll be like  the before crazy men, will end the life in prizzzzn, the price for what u did for ur motherland.


You can easily pin-point various News article about Ho Chi Minh's bodyguard that was arrested, by using Yahoo, or Google.

You should not have so much high regards for the Communists in Hanoi.

The Communists are not your friends.

Articles about Tran Dung Tien:

1. http://www.hdvnbtdt.org/article.php3?id_article=113

2. http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/webnews/...l.RSmm_DNB.html


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"Don't listen to what the Communists say, but look into what they are doing."
kts_new
QUOTE (JimTungLe @ Jan 19 2005, 02:46 PM)
User: kts_new
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Can you show me where u find this news? Or this is just what u imagine in ur deep dream.I wonder if u can prove the truth of what u say without any clues. In my mind, u'll be like  the before crazy men, will end the life in prizzzzn, the price for what u did for ur motherland.


You can easily pin-point various News article about Ho Chi Minh's bodyguard that was arrested, by using Yahoo, or Google.

You should not have so much high regards for the Communists in Hanoi.

The Communists are not your friends.

Articles about Tran Dung Tien:

1. http://www.hdvnbtdt.org/article.php3?id_article=113

2. http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/webnews/...l.RSmm_DNB.html


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"Don't listen to what the Communists say, but look into what they are doing."

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What the hell u gave me. A broken link and a link guide to an unidentified website (also include a popup). He he... u think u can convince me with those. Heh he.... embarassedlaugh.gif2
Rocky Cuong V
"He was taken away after writing an essay protesting the arrests of Pham Que Duong and Tran Khue. "

Wow..., then again I'm not surprise.
JimTungLe
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User: kts_new
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What the hell u gave me. A broken link and a link guide to an unidentified website (also include a popup). He he... u think u can convince me with those. Heh he....


Listen, I just checked the links, that I provided above and they are not broken.

But here are some more links about Tran Dung Tien:

1. http://www.fva.org/bios/trandungtien.htm

2. http://www.fva.org/200311/story03.htm

3. http://www.cpj.org/news/2003/Vietnam11nov03na.html

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"Don't listen to what the Communists say, but look into what they are doing."
dragon
The links work for me:

http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/webnews/...l.RSmm_DNB.html

Here, I'll paste it for ya:

HANOI, Nov 12 (AFP) - A former bodyguard to revered Vietnamese Communist Party founding father Ho Chi Minh was jailed for 10 months Wednesday on charges of "abusing democratic rights," the foreign ministry said.

Tran Dung Tien, a pro-democracy activist who was arrested in late January after protesting the detention of two other dissidents, was handed the sentence by the Hanoi People's Court after a trial lasting around two hours.

A court official, who requested anonymity, said Tien had "sincerely confessed" to his crime, but another source who attended the trial, which was closed to diplomats and foreign correspondents, said he rejected the charges.

"Taking into consideration the repentance and sincere confession of the defendant and the lenient policy of the state, the court sentenced him to 10 months in prison from the day of his arrest," the official said.

Foreign ministry spokesman Le Dung confirmed the retroactive nature of Tien's sentence, which was far lighter than expected, but refused to comment on the release date.

The aging revolutionary-turned-pro-democracy activist has been a vocal critic of the regime, calling for political reform and pointing to the failures of the ruling Communist Party.

"The shortness of the sentence is very surprising but he should never have been tried in the first place," said a Western diplomat.

"I don't know if this (sentence) is a reaction to international pressure or the domestic standing of the guy. It would look bad to throw the book at someone who was so close to Ho Chi Minh and who is so obviously a patriot."

The trial clashed with a landmark visit to the United States by Defence Minister Pham Van Tra, who complained in Washington on Monday about US criticism of Vietnam's human rights record.

Foreign journalists and diplomats who congregated outside the colonial-era courthouse were forced by police to move away, while undercover officers filmed the gathering.

Several other prominent dissidents also tried to enter the courthouse to support Tien but were barred.

"Tran Dung Tien was a bodyguard of Ho Chi Minh since before the time of the August (1945) Revolution, so by doing this to him the government has insulted Ho Chi Minh," said Nguyen Thanh Giang, a geophysicist and noted pro-democracy campaigner.

Hanoi has stepped up its campaign to silence political and religious dissidents over the past year, fearful they could trigger instability and threaten one-party rule.

Tien was arrested in the capital on January 22, two days after writing an open letter criticising the detention in late December of two other dissidents, former army colonel Pham Que Duong and military historian Tran Khue.

"To remain silent is to be irresponsible, for it amounts to accepting the continuation of crimes and tyranny," Tien, a Communist Party member and veteran of Vietnam's fight against the French and the Americans, said in his letter.

He was also one of 21 prominent dissidents who signed an August 2002 petition protesting against endemic government corruption and repression of critics of the government.

In June this year, Pham Hong Son, a businessman who also signed the petition, was jailed for 13 years on espionage charges after he posted an article about democracy on the Internet.

Following a widespread outcry and calls from the United States for his release, Son's sentence was cut by more than half in August on appeal.
dragon
QUOTE (Johannjs @ Jan 18 2005, 06:29 PM)
I agree that we should replace everybody with peasant wannabe corrupted and traitors.
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LOL! embarassedlaugh.gif2

You're missing the concept, man. That's IS our CURRENT state...we want to move AWAY from that situation.
kts_new
Every country has its own law. U think what'll USA theorities do if u r did the same with him??? Or ur administration will prize for what u did against them. He he, I think u r hoping the United Vietnam be established again, an unable mission! He he... biggrin.gif
quocthaibinhan
Like I said and shut them down for year, it is just 50 year old crap repeating itself and trying to mix itself with perfectly good rice - for some more laugh : they are nothing but a second grade grease , a clown repeating their same routines .

Why don't they just keep the rice by itself if they have nothing to contribute besides old crap. No one can use old crap only for compost ; it can not have any direct involvement or it will tanish everything it touches . Hope this is clear enough that even the greatest liars and deniers can not deny or lie so yeap I do expect a 10 year old to have some appreciation , but only one with some intelligence and knowledge .
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