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VaNxLyKexWhOA
Hey! I know there's alot of asian people that does martial arts, how about the viets huh? what kind of martial art do u do and mind tellin some of ur technique? I take tae kwon do and am a 1st degree black belt. There's some moves I wanna learn but don't have a teacher that can really show me how. If ne of you can offer some advice, please do! biggthumpup.gif
tai mantis
hey dood

im currently training in judo. our techniques focus on throws and ground fighting

how long have u been doing tkd for??? is ur taining place full time???
VOTAMVOTU
vovinam.com

watch the streaming video its gangsta
vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe
QUOTE (VOTAMVOTU @ Dec 25 2004, 06:15 AM)
vovinam.com

watch the streaming video its gangsta
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i dont see any streaming video
VaNxLyKexWhOA
Isn't vivonam the viet style martial art? do they teach that here? heard it's all about kicks. N yea, I've taken tkd for 5-6 years now and we train about 6 hours a week. Judo is pretty tight, u got ne vids? i got some tkd performance vids if u wanna see them. And dude, where's the videos at vovinam?
VOTAMVOTU
for the vid
click on techniques
and scroll down a lil
you should see it
yeah vovinam is one of the main viet martial art
theres also vo binh dinh
VaNxLyKexWhOA
vovinam isn't that bad, sum of the kicks r pretty tight, it's almost like tkd. is vovinam part of a korean art? it has the korean symbol on the back. Mayb that's why it looks similar to tae kwon do. u should check out the tkd kicks, they are much better.. mostly aerials.
tai mantis
judoinfo.com has some cool olympics clips abd also all the techniques used in judo

i find it to be the most physical of the martial arts since ive tried alot of different arts in my quest to find one im most comfortable arts.

most throws have knockout potential when executed properly
VOTAMVOTU
the best fighting system is mix martial art
haha ever seen any non mix martial art in pride k1 or ultimate
hell no right
but for regular peeps
take thai boxing
help you woop some @$$ in real life
VaNxLyKexWhOA
haha I think that most martial arts, if your good at it, can kick butt in real life. i've knocked out a street fighter during a sparring match once with one blow to the stomach. u should check out bilang.com to find sum really tight tkd clips
Preydominator
I've seen Việt Võ Đạo demonstration in real life. Quite impressive! What is the deal with 2 different names anyway? Which name is the official? Việt Võ Đạo or Vovinam.
Vash
dunno but i personally think vovinam sucks...well the video i saw was terrible anyway

i've been doing tkd too VaNxLyKexWhOA! i've been doing it for 10 years now, i'm 3rd dan :P... of course tkd has such a bad rep but i think my club is reasonably strong embarassedlaugh.gif2

of cousre you have the mixed MA purists... but i had the chance to check it out yet.
VaNxLyKexWhOA
yea? 10 years huh? n 3rd dan already? i've been in tkd for 5-6 years n 1st dan.. of course that's because my school system kind of suck. They mix whitebelts with all other belts so we have to review alot! have you mastered any tricks?
tam_ca
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lilanimekid
My dad taught Vo Vi Nam back in Viet Nam before coming to America. Lets just say he's no pushover.
tai mantis
yeah tkd can either be good or bad depending on who teaches u... the problem is that halfbeats with a few years tkd training start openiong up dojos to make a few extra dollars and gradings are done based upon attendance, not skill

there are some realli kick @$$ tkd schools out there... the kick trainer at chute boxe gym is purely tkd
Martial Artist
My dad was a lumpinee fighter and in nakon ratichinma but....
I like Mixmartial arts, i only use only martila arst techinques that is usual but other than that i use maness in fighting not martil arts;

Previous martila arts;
ninjutsu bujinkan croydon dump it 4 months ago
united kingdom karate purley use too a month or 3
Croydon amatuer boxing dump it last two weeks
karate style in purley just went away
Muay thai in thailand use too
jujitsu in croydon use too
kickboxing in croydon currently
VaNxLyKexWhOA
yea. I find that a problem these days, alot of martial arts schools are going bad. Most of them are in it for the money now. My tkd school actually teaches and we don't charge as much as other schools, however my instructors aren't very good at aerials b/c they're kinda old. But they teach the basics and kicks very well, my weak point is my flips. I can't do a backhand spring or back tuck, and i'm trying to learn the B-twist on my own. Their basics helped me learn the 720 butterfly, 720 crecent kick, and the barrel kick. Even though I learned those on my own by watching videos of tkd champions, I still had the basics to thank. My point is, I went to visit other tkd schools, you know, just check out how they doing n stuff, and the instructors are terrible. I watched one where the instructor wouldn't let a kid sparr just b/c he didn't have a mouthpiece. that's what makes the rep bad for MA.
YManchun
Yeah, Mcdojos are pretty much overruning the hardcore schools. At least its good to hear there are still good civilian TKD schools out there.
simplelogik
QUOTE (YManchun @ Dec 29 2004, 07:34 AM)
Yeah, Mcdojos are pretty much overruning the hardcore schools. At least its good to hear there are still good civilian TKD schools out there.
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It's strange that so many Vietnamese are doing taekwondo icon_smile.gif Probably due to historical reason and the influence of tkd during the Vietnam war?

Like everyone here, I'm a tkd practitioner myself. Being practicing for 24 years, and managed to captained the state team and trialed out for Olympics selection.
Also did 18 months of karate to suppliment my punching skill, but in the end I found it too confusing, so gave up on karate icon_smile.gif But now that I've retired from competitions I'm an expert (not really) Polish dancer .. so far it's a lot more challenging than I had anticipated icon_smile.gif ..

Can't do any fancy kicks though icon_smile.gif

VaNxLyKexWhOA : there's nothing wrong with restricting students from sparring if they don't have the appropriate safety gears. I'm not that strict at normal training, but if we do have full tournament training everyone wears a mouth guard !! First of all, safety comes comes before everyhting else, secondly teeth are very expensive to repair, thirdly prevention is better than cure. Anyway, living in a society where people sue each others with the slightest excuse, I think that instructor is a very smart man icon_smile.gif
VaNxLyKexWhOA
QUOTE (simplelogik @ Dec 28 2004, 08:04 PM)
QUOTE (YManchun @ Dec 29 2004, 07:34 AM)
Yeah, Mcdojos are pretty much overruning the hardcore schools. At least its good to hear there are still good civilian TKD schools out there.
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VaNxLyKexWhOA : there's nothing wrong with restricting students from sparring if they don't have the appropriate safety gears. I'm not that strict at normal training, but if we do have full tournament training everyone wears a mouth guard !! First of all, safety comes comes before everyhting else, secondly teeth are very expensive to repair, thirdly prevention is better than cure. Anyway, living in a society where people sue each others with the slightest excuse, I think that instructor is a very smart man icon_smile.gif
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I agree on some points you made, but this is a normal training day, and it's ONLY a mouth piece. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't TKD artists suppose to learn self-control? I find it hard that a good disciplined student would use his full force on a kid. I also find that we form a bond with our classmates at tkd, we become sort of brothers... I wouldn't kill them icon_wink.gif Most of the time our class sparrs w/o gears- that's how much we trust each other. N being a blackbelt sparring against a lower belt, I never use full force, I help them more than I help myself.
tai mantis
YES mixed martial arts rules!!!

hehe im not surprised so many people do tkd... its like the most readily available martial art... like every school hall has it (thats how common it is in australia)

and martial artist this is a thread about techniques so ppl can expend their knowledge... keep on topic and stop boasting about the 20 black belts you have
antopho
Hey fools haven't been here in a while...umm I take AIKIDO, it's sort of like Judo/Jujitsu, less offesnive
VaNxLyKexWhOA
hmm yea a lot of people do tkd, but it was ranked 7 on trl. i think kung fu ranked first. neways, since most peopel here are pretty experienced.. I was wondering if nebody here can do the b-twist? that's when u spin in the air horizontally. ne advice? I also need some tips on how to spin faster. I can do 720s pretty well, but it looks kinda slow compared to the champions.
vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe
QUOTE (VaNxLyKexWhOA @ Jan 3 2005, 08:18 PM)
hmm yea a lot of people do tkd, but it was ranked 7 on trl. i think kung fu ranked first. neways, since most peopel here are pretty experienced.. I was wondering if nebody here can do the b-twist? that's when u spin in the air horizontally. ne advice? I also need some tips on how to spin faster. I can do 720s pretty well, but it looks kinda slow compared to the champions.
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if u could do it fast , then u would be the champion already biggthumpup.gif
tai mantis
with all respect to ur martial art but flashy looks aside do u really think a 720 spin kick (pardon my terminology) would be effective in a sefl defence situation
simplelogik
QUOTE (tai mantis @ Jan 5 2005, 11:03 PM)
with all respect to ur martial art but flashy looks aside do u really think a 720 spin kick (pardon my terminology) would be effective in a sefl defence situation
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A 720 degree spinning kick is as useful as a water pistol for self defense icon_smile.gif .. In tournaments, spinning kicks are the slowest of all kicks, so they’re predominately used as a counter kick (to some success). It’s very hard to hit a moving object with a spinning kick because of the circular nature, but this can be compensated by the initial motion to be linear (less hip rotation) and then at the final stage which appears more like a whip (hook kick).

Of course if the target is stationary then it might not be too hard to hit icon_smile.gif

Here is me doing a 540, but if that was a head (moving target) I would never be able to hit it. I can’t remember hitting someone with a spinning kick (180 degree) without startling them with something else first.


540 Degree Spinning Kick
VaNxLyKexWhOA
of course aerial kicks aren't really used for sparring, they're mostly for forms and for performance. However, although slower than the ground kicks, it can be effectively used in sparring match.. depending on the skills of the person. Some1 with alot of speed can definitely pull it off. Also, aerial kicks are not weak. a 720 butterfly can deal more damage than other ground kicks becuase of the intial momentum the kick creates. For me, it's one of my most powerful kicks. N sure, it's not as accurate as ground kicks, but it can be aimed quite well. I've hit almost all my targets doing a 720.
teoteoteo
Hi guys, just know about this forum accidentally, I also surprised that u guys have talk about material art. I love this game alot. i used to train it alot, and had been trained for 12 years, since i was very little (when i was 8, i started to train) but i had to give up cause go studying aboard. I had trainned in 2 type Karate and Aikido (but concerntrating on Sword).
on my thinking, learn thoes material art really depend on ourselves, if we want to be good, we have to train. If we dont train, we losing it. If you guys train alot, i think u guys find 2 great things about material art. CALM and REACTION. How do u think about it? Tell everyone about wat you feel after training !!!
tai mantis
hehe after training... i feel like wither sleeping or puking... our training usually finishes up with randori (full contact sparring)... it can get realli tiring throwing and being thrown
VaNxLyKexWhOA
I love good work-outs! those that makes u want to go to sleep right after. Sometimes I can barely lift my blanket up just to sleep.
Vash
taekwondo getting boring now... i feel like i'm improving alot slower! hence changing to.... KENDO! bwahahaha biggthumpup.gif
KuteDragonBabe
Tai Qi Quan - Wang Style
Wushu..

hm.. i'm mostly chinese, and my parents believe in this whole.. "healthy exercise when you're young" thing.. so they made me take those when I was younger..
justinqu
QUOTE (KuteDragonBabe @ Jan 10 2005, 02:12 PM)
Tai Qi Quan - Wang Style
Wushu..

hm.. i'm mostly chinese, and my parents believe in this whole.. "healthy exercise when you're young" thing.. so they made me take those when I was younger..
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Yeah, not only when you r young, but at least exercise regularly you will be healthy for the rest of your life, i haven't get sick for the past 15 years....hehehe...i used to practice on my Karate-Do, but didnt have a chance since i left VN, sad but still keep up with working out time to time...

Anyone know about Bu`a Nam Ong? This is very rare use and most people don't know about it. Anyone care for a little infor about this? Thanks a whole bunch
Sopheak
My viet friend and his cousin studied Wing Chun back then for 6 months before i started and before i knew him. it seems they studied under the same instructor as me. well he told me that our intructor took them into a tournament. get this, all the wing chun artist got bad scores on form, none of the judges knew wing chun and said sumin like "they too standard and too stiff". but when it comes to sparing, man it was a whole different story, my friend got thirds place cause he kicked his opponent somewhere on the body (dissoallowed, for got where) and got disqualified for the finals (he got pissed off cause his opponent kept jumping around dodging and not attacking). His cousin got in first place for his division. another wing chun repeatedly did the standard wing chun punch across the room.


oh yeah and my sifu's highest student has a viet name but he speaks chinese
sibalrama
learn,,to taek kyon embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26816

taek kyon is korean traditonal martial arts icon_twisted.gif
VaNxLyKexWhOA
Wushu is pretty tight, I like their weapons. As for the tournament thingy, uhh there are always set rules for tournaments. Sometimes they don't allow backfist, or another move.. u have to follow those rules when the tournament prohibits them. So it's kinda your friend's fault for not knowing the rules before hand. And yea, forms in open tournaments are very comparative. Different judges look for different things.
July_Rain
QUOTE (VaNxLyKexWhOA @ Jan 5 2005, 06:51 PM)
of course aerial kicks aren't really used for sparring, they're mostly for forms and for performance. However, although slower than the ground kicks, it can be effectively used in sparring match.. depending on the skills of the person. Some1 with alot of speed can definitely pull it off. Also, aerial kicks are not weak. a 720 butterfly can deal more damage than other ground kicks becuase of the intial momentum the kick creates. For me, it's one of my most powerful kicks. N sure, it's not as accurate as ground kicks, but it can be aimed quite well. I've hit almost all my targets doing a 720.
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yeah i agree that speed is very important in sparring. Focus on your opponents' eyes and their postures does help. Hands, ankle weight training also help increase your speed.
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