Well, I read half way through the book and I'm sadden for what our people have been through and offer my full respect to those Khmer Krom who have endured the sufferring.

In the book, Peter Scott give a story about the mission of Khmer Krom during the Vietnam war and why some of them join the communist and some of them join the Diem's government.

Joining Communist

During the Diem regiem, South Vietnam president Ngo Dinh Diem force the Khmer Krom to use the term "Nguoi Viet Ngoc Mien" as their name rather than the original Khmer Krom.

Khmer Krom people were forbid to practice Budhism and so forth by the Diem government in an effort to rid Khmer Krom of their national origin.

Khmer Krom people were heavily tax by the Diem government.

Because of this suffering and Communist propaganda's of the promise of Khmer Krom independence and equality, many Khmer Krom have join the Communist. However, it turn out to be a big mistake.

Joining the Diem government

These people are the defector of the Communist, and some are from the order of KRU and an effort to overthrow both side of the Vietnamese.

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During the Vietnam War, Khmer Krom people sufferred the same treatment from both side of the Vietnamese government. They were killed if either side suspect of them of being a traitor. Khmer Krom soldier were being employed around 70% to the place where the danger of being killed is great.

Khmer Krom found themselve that no matter which side they serve, they suffered the same treatment and consequence. They later form a secret group which organize by KRU. It was so secret that only the KRU knew who was in the group. Their primary goal was Khmer Krom independence. In order to succeed, some of the people within these group was to join the Communist and some to Diem. While surving both side, they are waiting for the primary mission from KRU. When call, they are to kill their Vietnamese leader (captain? Lt.? etc).

[Now I come to know the meaning of the phrase "Do not spill the master's tea!"] - Khmer Krom served under the both side of the Vietnamese acting as slave, follow order from the Vietnamese but hide their primary mission to the Vietnamese. Thus, "Do not spill the master's tea!".

These were different group, one particular well known group was Con Sen Sar (White Scarve) which was recognized by the King Norodom Sihanouk.

However, each smaller group were later come together and form Front de Lutter du Kampuchea Krom or Front for the Struggle of the Khmer Krom people (FLKK). During this time that current Khmer Krom flag were form, the three color band.

BLUE "freedom for democracy",
White? I thought it is yellow and currently yellow "Khmer Krom nation and its resolve"
RED "struggle to defend their ethnicity."

During this time that Khmer Krom adopted hindu-dragon god Reahou in the process of devouring the mean as their seal. Because Reahou loves Buddha so much in the form of MOON, Reahow always want to swallow Buddha and make him his soul. Khmer Krom celebrate this as a holiday known as Oc bum moc.

There are many well known figures in this book such as Chau Got, Aziz (Cham), Uch, Krech, Cop, Capt. Reap, Col. Thach Quyen, Son Ngoc Thanh (Khmer Serie), and to my surprise Lon Nol was Khmer Krom from Prey Veng?

Lon Nol was too busy fighting against the Khmer Rough, while Sihanouk avoiding war by staying neutral unable to offer any support to FLKK. Thus, they are outnumber by the Vietnamese and their force were later destroy and thus end their conquest and hope for Khmer Krom independence.

A salute to all those who fight for Khmer Krom cause and endure the suffering from the cruelt treatment from the Vietnamese government!

Why does Khmer Krom so hateful against Vietnamese? Because too many of us are being murdered by the Vietnamese. Too many of us are being use by the Vietnamese with their promise of Khmer Krom independence.

Thay

From Peter Scott, Lost Crusade

I would like to reword my post that I believe in a lot of countries, if there are citizens who are charged with treason espicially those in the military don't they get the firing squad? I believe South Vietnam was one such country that did that.

Diem didn't execute "Buddhism" because he was merely a Catholic, but the fact was and still IS that Communist infiltrated into buddhism, and often spread out propaganda through Buddhist teachings.

He definitely wasn't overthrown for Buddhism repression but obvious because of his statement not allowing US army to take over South Vietnam.

And this article makes like it's only Khmer Krom that are Buddhists.

[quote=Byron,Dec 22 2004, 02:15 PM]What a funny article.

1)Diem was a catholic. He didn't ban buddhism from the Khmer Krom because he wanted them to forget about their national origin, he hated buddhism period.

He is known for restricting buddhism against the Vietnamse population in South Vietnam as well which is one of the reasons why he was overthrown. lol why would he not ban buddhism from the Khmer Krom if he was willing to do it to his own people?

2)If you actually read the article is makes the Khmer Krom look like the bad guy since they were planning to back stab the Vietnamese that they were working for and kill the captains if they had the chance.

So the Vietnamese government punishing them later is justifiable since these Khmer Krom were traitors and were planning to kill and try to take land away from Vietnam to make another Khmer nation.

3)Khmer Krom suspected of being traitors were killed. So what? A lot of nations have an execution penalty for suspected traitors during wartime. South Vietnamese would kill suspected traitors as well even if they were Vietnamese.

Your article just tries to show the reasons why Khmer Krom were forced to betray who they were working for with the reasons of 1) Their religion Buddhism was banned.

2)Suspected traitors were killed.

Of course I proved that 1) was wrong since buddhism was banned from even Vietnamese themselves and 2) Traitors in most countries get the death penalty.

So basically their motivation was a lie and thus they are nothing more than terrorists for planning to kill my people.

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This is the story from the survivor...funny to you...

Go read yourself a book since you have time...

They are not traitor, they fought your f!cking government and your f!cking government killed them just because your f!cking government that they work for the VC or the Diem...

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Of course I proved that 1) was wrong since buddhism was banned from even Vietnamese themselves and 2) Traitors in most countries get the death penalty
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You prove nothing because you know nothing about the Khmer Krom people...

[quote]1)Diem was a catholic. He didn't ban buddhism from the Khmer Krom because he wanted them to forget about their national origin, he hated buddhism period.[/quote]

It is not a matter of Budhism, it is the matter of trying to erase the origin of the Khmer Krom. Do notice that Diem force Khmer Krom to label themselve...by the name "Nguoi Viet Ngoc Mien"? Is that what you guy called us?

Khmer Krom are force to be draft or be shotted...you are just a kid...you don't live where Khmer Krom live, you don't understand the live of Khmer Krom so don't just speak from what you learn from your government....

Again, go buy the freaking book and then start to repute...don't repute the article in you don't understand what they article is about...this is only half way from the book...

The story is too good to be true isn't it? Refused to belief as your people always do????

Ok your article just said that they were planning on backstabbing the Vietnamese who they were working for sooner or later. Do you even read your own articles???

And my government only killed the suspected traitors not ALL of the Khmer Krom. A lot of government do the same practice, even the U.S has a firing squad for suspected traitors.



No $hit, I'm just rebutting what's based in your article, I never claimed I knew anything about your people.



How should I know? Your article that YOU POSTED. Said we tried to erase your culture by erasing Buddhism. So now it isn't about that right? It seems you aren't even confident enough in the article that YOU POSTED.



Uh I want this story to be true since it makes your people look like the bad guys. lol

so what is "nguoi viet ngoc mien", according to your understanding of the vietnamese language?

you want him to test his vietnamese language skills out huh? well, from what i've heard it stands for vietnamese of khmer origin.

no, not at all. i just want to make sure he correctly understands the terminology. first of all, he didn't spell it correctly. it's "nguoi viet goc mien", not ngoc ("ngoc" is the same as "ngu", means stupid). secondly, if the term clearly states: "vietnamese citizen with khmer root/origin", why the accusation that diem tried to erase khmer identity?
on government i.d card, it clearly classifies the origins of vietnamese citizens: kinh (viet), hoa (chinese), mien (khmer), thuong (montagnard), etc. why the fuss?

what so bad about that?

maybe it was a typo..

At thats time, the Khmers didnt want to join with the Nasty VC or the South Yuon either. Because they forced Khmers to involve with them...Khmers had no power to against back them all...Especially the Cruel VC used the tricky propaganda to fascinate the Khmer feeling to be their restistance...In ordered to fight the Dictatorial regime's South VN.

Actually, The Khmers didnt want to assassinate to any races...Khmers were so honest and more compassion to all nations. Then the b!tch regime neighbor infringed and disturbed on Khmers priviledge all the times.

So...Dont blame why Khmers involve with those animal????


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