Can someone explain the origin of malaysian piracy culture ?
This is not a provocative question. For those who deny facts, just take the glimpse on Piracy reports, you could also pefrom further search with keywords " malacca strait" and "piracy"
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Piracy culture ? 
Pirates in the Straits of Malacca are part of well organized crime syndicates. These gangs have informants working in shipping companies.Pirates coming out of their hideouts on the Indonesian side of the straits already know which ship to attack,the value of it's cargo and the exact location of the ship.Most attacks occur on the Indonesian side.
QUOTE (Sideley @ Dec 21 2004, 03:16 AM)
Can someone explain the origin of malaysian piracy culture ?
This is not a provocative question. For those who deny facts, just take the glimpse on Piracy reports, you could also pefrom further search with keywords " malacca strait" and "piracy"
This is not a provocative question. For those who deny facts, just take the glimpse on Piracy reports, you could also pefrom further search with keywords " malacca strait" and "piracy"
Pirates in the Straits of Malacca are part of well organized crime syndicates. These gangs have informants working in shipping companies.Pirates coming out of their hideouts on the Indonesian side of the straits already know which ship to attack,the value of it's cargo and the exact location of the ship.Most attacks occur on the Indonesian side.
QUOTE (Sideley @ Dec 21 2004, 03:16 AM)
Can someone explain the origin of malaysian piracy culture ?
This is not a provocative question. For those who deny facts, just take the glimpse on Piracy reports, you could also pefrom further search with keywords " malacca strait" and "piracy"
This is not a provocative question. For those who deny facts, just take the glimpse on Piracy reports, you could also pefrom further search with keywords " malacca strait" and "piracy"
Much like my compatriot, Iron Malayan said, most piracy attacks occurred along Indonesian side of Malacca Straits (not to be confused with State of Malacca, Malaysia).
From previous encounters, most of these pirates spoke 'Indonesian' slang, & from intel infos shared by Malaysian & Indonesian authorities, these pirates are believed to have stationed themselves in any of Indonesia's thousands of small islands, so making it hard for both Malaysian & Indonesian forces to track down these modern pirates.
Many reasons to believe that there seem to be an organised (or several) piracy syndicates, both local & international.
The piracy culture in Malay Archipelago dated back to colonial era of Portuegese, Holland & English occupation of Malay world since 16th century. Unlike those days, vcurrent pirates are sophisticated lot & uptodate.
The habit of attacking foreign vessel were well known especially to expell Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch and British vessel by brave Malay Riau, Acheh and Bugisnese during Independence colonial time.
Even British at those time does not want to deal with this local sea warrior and even give Bugisnese special priviledge to load and unload their cargo in Singapore. The term of Bogeymen coming from british who experience attack so many times by Bugisnese in Indonesian archipelago.
And now this habit come out again since there are disoriented and lack of security along Sumatran coast by Indonesian navy or police to secure this area. This most probably Indonesian army busy fighting Acheh insurgent in northern Sumatra and not so focus to control this area.
if Indonesia willing to put more budget on Navy capabilities this piracy will be easily handled by local authority. Currently Indonesia put small budget for military bcoz want more emphasize to develop economy.
It is just the matter of time to put this back in order.
Even British at those time does not want to deal with this local sea warrior and even give Bugisnese special priviledge to load and unload their cargo in Singapore. The term of Bogeymen coming from british who experience attack so many times by Bugisnese in Indonesian archipelago.
And now this habit come out again since there are disoriented and lack of security along Sumatran coast by Indonesian navy or police to secure this area. This most probably Indonesian army busy fighting Acheh insurgent in northern Sumatra and not so focus to control this area.
if Indonesia willing to put more budget on Navy capabilities this piracy will be easily handled by local authority. Currently Indonesia put small budget for military bcoz want more emphasize to develop economy.
It is just the matter of time to put this back in order.
If I am not mistaken, the Indonesian part of the malacca strait corresponds to the shores of the Acheh province (what is the right syntax for this province by the way ?), where people want to go apart from the Indonesian Federation, to establish an islamic state, right ? How does Islam sharia deal with these pirats ?
Personnally, I wish vessels be equipped with heavy guns and anti-vessels missiles to blast off all these pirats whenever they attempt an attack.
Personnally, I wish vessels be equipped with heavy guns and anti-vessels missiles to blast off all these pirats whenever they attempt an attack.
Automatic rifles for crewmembers is a good idea but some crewmembers were known to be in cahoots with the pirates.
somehow when i clicked here, I thought it's going to be a thread in music/software piracy in malaysia . Anyways , merry christmas and happy new year everyone !
Some Acheh rebels are also involved in piracy.
Yup .... some intel infos gathered by Malaysian & Indonesian authorities pointed the connection between piracy syndicate & GAM (Free Acheh Movement) rebels. There are high probabilities that GAM had been funded with piracy's spoils (money) ....
QUOTE (Sideley @ Dec 22 2004, 05:14 AM)
If I am not mistaken, the Indonesian part of the malacca strait corresponds to the shores of the Acheh province (what is the right syntax for this province by the way ?), where people want to go apart from the Indonesian Federation, to establish an islamic state, right ? How does Islam sharia deal with these pirats ?
Personnally, I wish vessels be equipped with heavy guns and anti-vessels missiles to blast off all these pirats whenever they attempt an attack.
Personnally, I wish vessels be equipped with heavy guns and anti-vessels missiles to blast off all these pirats whenever they attempt an attack.
No, gun will not solve the problem of the brave and unconquerale of Acheh Sumatra. Acheh is the only major kingdom in Indonesia who never surrender into Dutch.
Dutch tried to win war against Acheh by creating a lot of troop from other part of Indonesia like from Molucca and Java also thousand troop from Africa. But still the brave Acheh people standing on their ground and Dutch never succed.
So Acheh is the only 2 place in South East Asia never being subdued by western colonialism by war. Other location I think is Moro people in Mindanao.
Malay "entrepreneurs" usually did not mutiliate British prisoners but in the early 1800s the British supported Siam in their war against northern Malay states like Kedah ,earning the wrath of most Malays.
During that period I think some Malays vented their anger on British crewmembers .
During that period I think some Malays vented their anger on British crewmembers .
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TO A GENEROUS PUBLIC
I am a poor young man who had the misfortune of having my to Tongue cut out of my mouth on my passage home from the coast of China to Liverpool, in 1845, by the Malay Pirates, on the Coast of Malacca. There were Fourteen of our Crew taken prisoners and kept on shore for months ; some of whom had their eyes put out, some their ears cut off, for myself I had my Tongue cut out.
We were taken about 120 miles to sea ; we were then given a raft and let go, and then were three days and three nights on the raft, and ten out of fourteen were lost. We were picked up by the ship James, bound to Boston, in America, and after our arrival we were sent home to Liverpool, in the ship Sarah James.
Two of my companions had trades before they went to sea, but unfortunately for me having no Father or Mother living, I went to sea quite young. I am now obliged to appeal to a Generous Public for support, and any small donation you please to give will be Thankfully received by Your obedient servant, William Edwards.
P.S.--I sailed from Liverpool on the 28th day of May, 1844, on board the Jane Ann, belonging to Mr. Spade, Williams Jones, Captain. Signed by Mr. Rushton, Magistrate, Liverpool, Mr. Smith, and Mr. Williams, after I landed in Liverpool on the 10th December, 1845.
J. Southward, Printer, S. Upper Pitt Street, Liverpool.
http://www.piratedocuments.com/Admiralty%2..._the_pirate.htm
I am a poor young man who had the misfortune of having my to Tongue cut out of my mouth on my passage home from the coast of China to Liverpool, in 1845, by the Malay Pirates, on the Coast of Malacca. There were Fourteen of our Crew taken prisoners and kept on shore for months ; some of whom had their eyes put out, some their ears cut off, for myself I had my Tongue cut out.
We were taken about 120 miles to sea ; we were then given a raft and let go, and then were three days and three nights on the raft, and ten out of fourteen were lost. We were picked up by the ship James, bound to Boston, in America, and after our arrival we were sent home to Liverpool, in the ship Sarah James.
Two of my companions had trades before they went to sea, but unfortunately for me having no Father or Mother living, I went to sea quite young. I am now obliged to appeal to a Generous Public for support, and any small donation you please to give will be Thankfully received by Your obedient servant, William Edwards.
P.S.--I sailed from Liverpool on the 28th day of May, 1844, on board the Jane Ann, belonging to Mr. Spade, Williams Jones, Captain. Signed by Mr. Rushton, Magistrate, Liverpool, Mr. Smith, and Mr. Williams, after I landed in Liverpool on the 10th December, 1845.
J. Southward, Printer, S. Upper Pitt Street, Liverpool.
http://www.piratedocuments.com/Admiralty%2..._the_pirate.htm
QUOTE (Protoculture @ Dec 23 2004, 04:06 AM)
Yup .... some intel infos gathered by Malaysian & Indonesian authorities pointed the connection between piracy syndicate & GAM (Free Acheh Movement) rebels. There are high probabilities that GAM had been funded with piracy's spoils (money) ....
A cause supported by crime is a cause to be fought against.
QUOTE (Nusantara @ Dec 23 2004, 06:36 AM)
No, gun will not solve the problem of the brave and unconquerale of Acheh Sumatra. Acheh is the only major kingdom in Indonesia who never surrender into Dutch.
Dutch tried to win war against Acheh by creating a lot of troop from other part of Indonesia like from Molucca and Java also thousand troop from Africa. But still the brave Acheh people standing on their ground and Dutch never succed.
So Acheh is the only 2 place in South East Asia never being subdued by western colonialism by war. Other location I think is Moro people in Mindanao.
Dutch tried to win war against Acheh by creating a lot of troop from other part of Indonesia like from Molucca and Java also thousand troop from Africa. But still the brave Acheh people standing on their ground and Dutch never succed.
So Acheh is the only 2 place in South East Asia never being subdued by western colonialism by war. Other location I think is Moro people in Mindanao.
You mean piracy is the way Acheh people claim their pride ? Oops ! I suppose a honest man as I am would be deemed a coward if I lived there ! I don't intend to call for a conquest of Acheh, but they have no right to attack merchant vessels navigating through the Malacca Strait. Neither in Western values nor in muslim values, theft, robbery and assassination is regarded as bravery.
I meant that every international merchant vessels navigating by this area should be equipped with heavy firepower to wipe out all pirats.
People in Acheh should be taught to work honestly and reject this savage piracy culture.
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Automatic rifles for crewmembers is a good idea but some crewmembers were known to be in cahoots with the pirates.
They had better hire seamen from other countries and pay them accordingly.
Happy Christmas, Glory in the heaven, Peace on earth.
^There is no proof yet piracy was being conducted by Achehnese.
Acheh problem is not about religion, It is separatist problem. They want to seperate from Indonesia who they think mostly controled by central goverment in java island which make up almost 60% of Indonesian population.
The way they think why Acheh should be incorporated into Indonesia if they never surrender into Dutch.
So this is nothing to do about their religion. They fought off for independency.
Acheh problem is not about religion, It is separatist problem. They want to seperate from Indonesia who they think mostly controled by central goverment in java island which make up almost 60% of Indonesian population.
The way they think why Acheh should be incorporated into Indonesia if they never surrender into Dutch.
So this is nothing to do about their religion. They fought off for independency.
QUOTE (Sideley @ Dec 23 2004, 03:23 AM)
Happy Christmas, Glory in the heaven, Peace on earth.
Happy New Year
QUOTE (Nusantara @ Dec 24 2004, 04:46 AM)
^There is no proof yet piracy was being conducted by Achehnese.
Acheh problem is not about religion, It is separatist problem. They want to seperate from Indonesia who they think mostly controled by central goverment in java island which make up almost 60% of Indonesian population.
The way they think why Acheh should be incorporated into Indonesia if they never surrender into Dutch.
So this is nothing to do about their religion. They fought off for independency.
Acheh problem is not about religion, It is separatist problem. They want to seperate from Indonesia who they think mostly controled by central goverment in java island which make up almost 60% of Indonesian population.
The way they think why Acheh should be incorporated into Indonesia if they never surrender into Dutch.
So this is nothing to do about their religion. They fought off for independency.
But Nusantara, where did GAM get their fund in buying weapons? People knew that (its open secret anyway) that even GAM get their money from piracy to supplement their funds to buy weaponries.
We're not saying that piracy in Malacca Straits had anything to do with religion, but regarding connection between some piracy cases with Aceh separatists.....
QUOTE (Protoculture @ Dec 28 2004, 11:05 PM)
QUOTE (Nusantara @ Dec 24 2004, 04:46 AM)
^There is no proof yet piracy was being conducted by Achehnese.
Acheh problem is not about religion, It is separatist problem. They want to seperate from Indonesia who they think mostly controled by central goverment in java island which make up almost 60% of Indonesian population.
The way they think why Acheh should be incorporated into Indonesia if they never surrender into Dutch.
So this is nothing to do about their religion. They fought off for independency.
Acheh problem is not about religion, It is separatist problem. They want to seperate from Indonesia who they think mostly controled by central goverment in java island which make up almost 60% of Indonesian population.
The way they think why Acheh should be incorporated into Indonesia if they never surrender into Dutch.
So this is nothing to do about their religion. They fought off for independency.
But Nusantara, where did GAM get their fund in buying weapons? People knew that (its open secret anyway) that even GAM get their money from piracy to supplement their funds to buy weaponries.
We're not saying that piracy in Malacca Straits had anything to do with religion, but regarding connection between some piracy cases with Aceh separatists.....
That's only assumption, still no proof. They might get their gun from Indos military when It left behind in battle.
Do you think GAM want to deteriorate their achievement by conducting piracy which will backlash their name itself?
Agreed with you piracy nothing to do with religion!
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(Bloomberg) -- Attacks on shipping in the Malacca Strait, the world's busiest sea lane, stopped after the Dec. 26 tsunami that devastated Indonesia's Aceh province on Sumatra island which is adjacent to the waterway, a shipping group said.
A magnitude-9 earthquake off the coast of Sumatra caused a tsunami that swept across the Indian Ocean killing more than 200,000 people in 12 countries, most of them in Indonesia, where whole towns were wiped out. Sumatra is on the west side of the Malacca Strait, where about a fifth of the world's piracy incidents were reported last year.
A magnitude-9 earthquake off the coast of Sumatra caused a tsunami that swept across the Indian Ocean killing more than 200,000 people in 12 countries, most of them in Indonesia, where whole towns were wiped out. Sumatra is on the west side of the Malacca Strait, where about a fifth of the world's piracy incidents were reported last year.
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BANDA ACEH, Indonesia, Feb 9 (Reuters) - Deadly bands of pirates robbing ships and kidnapping crews in the Malacca Strait may have been dealt a body blow by the tsunami that tore through the Indian Ocean in late December, an anti-piracy watchdog said.
Believed to hide out in coastal estuaries, mangrove swamps and bays on the northern tip of Indonesia's Sumatra island, pirates have not staged a single reported attack since the Boxing Day devastation that left hundreds of thousands dead or missing.
"There are still no attacks since December 26. Following the trend before the tsunami, there should have been at least several," Noel Choong, who heads the International Maritime Bureau's (IMB) piracy reporting centre in Kuala Lumpur, told Reuters on Tuesday.
"One spin-off of the tsunami could be that the pirates' physical assets have been destroyed or lost. Whether all the pirates have been killed or not remains to be seen. I expect to see a pick-up in attacks once normal commercial activities return to the region," he said by telephone from Malaysia.
The Malacca Strait is one of the world's busiest shipping lanes and a considerable source of concern for Asian and Western security forces, who have warned lawlessness in the Southeast Asian waterway could be taken advantage of by terrorists seeking to launch a crippling attack on global shipping.
Fears among some states bordering the waterway -- mainly Muslim-majority Malaysia and Indonesia -- that the United States was seeking a role in policing the strait was a factor behind the launch last year of joint patrols to curb rampant piracy.
"Before the tsunami, we were still seeing attacks in the Malacca Strait, despite the joint patrols by Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore," said Choong.
"The tsunami seems to have really succeeded where the joint patrols could not."
Another reason for the lack of attacks could be the vast humanitarian operation centred on Sumatra, where many pirates are believed to have based themselves.
The effort, the biggest peace-time relief operation since World War Two, has involved thousands of foreign troops and the navies of Indonesia, the United States, Malaysia, Australia, Japan and India, among others.
"There is all the military activity around the area. When the situation returns to normal, if the pirates were not killed, we will see the attacks start up again. The money is just too good," said Choong.
MODERN ROBIN HOODS
Piracy at sea fell by a third in 2004, although violence in the Malacca Strait rose, an IMB report released this week said. The number of attacks reported worldwide dropped to 325 last year versus 445 in 2003.
But the report said Indonesia remained the world's top piracy black spot. The Malacca Strait was ranked second worst. The narrow strait between Indonesia and Malaysia, with Singapore at its southern entrance, carries nearly a quarter of world trade and almost all of the oil imports by China and Japan.
Choong said that five years ago it was believed much of the piracy in the Malacca Strait was the work of separatist Free Aceh Movement (GAM) rebels, but in recent times there were signs criminal gangs from Indonesia were largely to blame.
The tsunami prompted Jakarta and GAM, which has been fighting for a separate homeland since 1976 at the cost of more than 12,000 mostly civilian lives, to reopen a peace dialogue. The Indonesian military still blame the rebels for most piracy off Sumatra.
"People who are living on the coast always protect them. The pirates are like Robin Hood. They always give some of their takings to the people, so people protect them from us," Marine Colonel Buyung Lelana of the River Mouth Task Force told Reuters.
He said a lack of manpower and equipment, as well as poor maritime intelligence, made catching pirates a tough task.
"Sure, there might be no attacks now, but I believe they are consolidating their forces somewhere."
The pirates are often better equipped than the Indonesian navy and use everything from high-powered speedboats to fishing trawlers and tug boats.
Long gone are the days of cutlasses and muskets, say analysts. Bandits of the sea are now as likely as not to be armed with assault rifles and communicating by satellite phones.
But their tactics have changed little.
"They shoot at the ship and if the ship is stupid enough to stop, then they will come aboard and rob the bridge or take the crew hostage," Choong said.
Believed to hide out in coastal estuaries, mangrove swamps and bays on the northern tip of Indonesia's Sumatra island, pirates have not staged a single reported attack since the Boxing Day devastation that left hundreds of thousands dead or missing.
"There are still no attacks since December 26. Following the trend before the tsunami, there should have been at least several," Noel Choong, who heads the International Maritime Bureau's (IMB) piracy reporting centre in Kuala Lumpur, told Reuters on Tuesday.
"One spin-off of the tsunami could be that the pirates' physical assets have been destroyed or lost. Whether all the pirates have been killed or not remains to be seen. I expect to see a pick-up in attacks once normal commercial activities return to the region," he said by telephone from Malaysia.
The Malacca Strait is one of the world's busiest shipping lanes and a considerable source of concern for Asian and Western security forces, who have warned lawlessness in the Southeast Asian waterway could be taken advantage of by terrorists seeking to launch a crippling attack on global shipping.
Fears among some states bordering the waterway -- mainly Muslim-majority Malaysia and Indonesia -- that the United States was seeking a role in policing the strait was a factor behind the launch last year of joint patrols to curb rampant piracy.
"Before the tsunami, we were still seeing attacks in the Malacca Strait, despite the joint patrols by Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore," said Choong.
"The tsunami seems to have really succeeded where the joint patrols could not."
Another reason for the lack of attacks could be the vast humanitarian operation centred on Sumatra, where many pirates are believed to have based themselves.
The effort, the biggest peace-time relief operation since World War Two, has involved thousands of foreign troops and the navies of Indonesia, the United States, Malaysia, Australia, Japan and India, among others.
"There is all the military activity around the area. When the situation returns to normal, if the pirates were not killed, we will see the attacks start up again. The money is just too good," said Choong.
MODERN ROBIN HOODS
Piracy at sea fell by a third in 2004, although violence in the Malacca Strait rose, an IMB report released this week said. The number of attacks reported worldwide dropped to 325 last year versus 445 in 2003.
But the report said Indonesia remained the world's top piracy black spot. The Malacca Strait was ranked second worst. The narrow strait between Indonesia and Malaysia, with Singapore at its southern entrance, carries nearly a quarter of world trade and almost all of the oil imports by China and Japan.
Choong said that five years ago it was believed much of the piracy in the Malacca Strait was the work of separatist Free Aceh Movement (GAM) rebels, but in recent times there were signs criminal gangs from Indonesia were largely to blame.
The tsunami prompted Jakarta and GAM, which has been fighting for a separate homeland since 1976 at the cost of more than 12,000 mostly civilian lives, to reopen a peace dialogue. The Indonesian military still blame the rebels for most piracy off Sumatra.
"People who are living on the coast always protect them. The pirates are like Robin Hood. They always give some of their takings to the people, so people protect them from us," Marine Colonel Buyung Lelana of the River Mouth Task Force told Reuters.
He said a lack of manpower and equipment, as well as poor maritime intelligence, made catching pirates a tough task.
"Sure, there might be no attacks now, but I believe they are consolidating their forces somewhere."
The pirates are often better equipped than the Indonesian navy and use everything from high-powered speedboats to fishing trawlers and tug boats.
Long gone are the days of cutlasses and muskets, say analysts. Bandits of the sea are now as likely as not to be armed with assault rifles and communicating by satellite phones.
But their tactics have changed little.
"They shoot at the ship and if the ship is stupid enough to stop, then they will come aboard and rob the bridge or take the crew hostage," Choong said.
The last prays of the pirate are Japan and Filipine.What about the pretext Malasia.You do a lot of unsavory with the neighbours.Earning a living by rob the ships,coveting Indonesian oil field,Intervening Burmese cosmetic affairs ,subverting Thailand by support The terrorists training base and resident.Recently Malasian goverment quietly handed 4 major terrorist to Thai.They accept that.You must know now Malasian man are considered a lot because their drug trafficing in southern Thai.They was arrested alot recently .That why we must consider them.
The last prays of the pirate are Japan and Filipine.What about the pretext Malasia.You do a lot of unsavory with the neighbours.Earning a living by rob the ships,coveting Indonesian oil field,Intervening Burmese cosmetic affairs ,subverting Thailand by support The terrorists training base and resident.Recently Malasian goverment quietly handed 4 major terrorist to Thai.They accept that.You must know now Malasian man are considered a lot because their drug trafficing in southern Thai.They was arrested alot recently .That why we must consider them.
QUOTE (khamphoon @ Mar 25 2005, 07:59 PM)
,Intervening Burmese cosmetic affairs ,
WTF ? HAHAHAHAAA
Ok stop backbiting us.
Alamak.. don't provoke him lah IM! Isy isy...
Take it easy khampoon... we're all friends here.
Take it easy khampoon... we're all friends here.
QUOTE (khamphoon @ Mar 27 2005, 10:14 PM)
Ok stop backbiting us.
Who's backbiting?
well Austronesians always have been the master of the Seas
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PIRATES JAILED
Seven also to be caned for terrorising fishermen
The pirates — Zubir Hashim, 41, Sutarman Marmin, 40, Mohamed Rojali Bahari, 37, Khairuddin Basir, 40, Arlis Adnan, 49, Arnis Ali, 48, and Jani Usman, 52, — were unrepresented.
Zubir was ordered to be given eight strokes, while Jani was spared the cane because he is over 50 years old.
The pirates faced three charges of attempted robbery, possession of dangerous weapons and entering the country illegally. The magistrate found them guilty of all the charges.
OFF TO JAIL: The accused being led out of Kota Tinggi magistrate court.
For attempted robbery off Persiaran Piah in Pengerang at 5.30pm on April 21, they were each sentenced to four years’ jail and ordered to be given three strokes of the rotan.
For possession of dangerous weapons, including a Rambo knife and five parangs, they were sentenced to eight months’ jail and ordered to be given two strokes of the rotan.
For entering Malaysian waters without valid documents, five were sentenced to 18 months’ jail and ordered to be given two strokes of the rotan.
Zubir and Jani were imposed a penalty of 20 months’ jail and three strokes of the rotan. All sentences begin from the date of their arrest on April 21.
Seven also to be caned for terrorising fishermen
The pirates — Zubir Hashim, 41, Sutarman Marmin, 40, Mohamed Rojali Bahari, 37, Khairuddin Basir, 40, Arlis Adnan, 49, Arnis Ali, 48, and Jani Usman, 52, — were unrepresented.
Zubir was ordered to be given eight strokes, while Jani was spared the cane because he is over 50 years old.
The pirates faced three charges of attempted robbery, possession of dangerous weapons and entering the country illegally. The magistrate found them guilty of all the charges.
OFF TO JAIL: The accused being led out of Kota Tinggi magistrate court.
For attempted robbery off Persiaran Piah in Pengerang at 5.30pm on April 21, they were each sentenced to four years’ jail and ordered to be given three strokes of the rotan.
For possession of dangerous weapons, including a Rambo knife and five parangs, they were sentenced to eight months’ jail and ordered to be given two strokes of the rotan.
For entering Malaysian waters without valid documents, five were sentenced to 18 months’ jail and ordered to be given two strokes of the rotan.
Zubir and Jani were imposed a penalty of 20 months’ jail and three strokes of the rotan. All sentences begin from the date of their arrest on April 21.
specifically, what kind of piracy are we talking about???
you mean like bootlegged movies that are burned onto VCD format???
or reproduced computer software?
you mean like bootlegged movies that are burned onto VCD format???
or reproduced computer software?
QUOTE (Eclectic Asian @ Jun 16 2005, 01:47 PM)
specifically, what kind of piracy are we talking about???
you mean like bootlegged movies that are burned onto VCD format???
or reproduced computer software?
you mean like bootlegged movies that are burned onto VCD format???
or reproduced computer software?
Are they Acehnese?
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Jun 15 2005, 01:52 PM)
QUOTE
PIRATES JAILED
Seven also to be caned for terrorising fishermen
The pirates — Zubir Hashim, 41, Sutarman Marmin, 40, Mohamed Rojali Bahari, 37, Khairuddin Basir, 40, Arlis Adnan, 49, Arnis Ali, 48, and Jani Usman, 52, — were unrepresented.
Zubir was ordered to be given eight strokes, while Jani was spared the cane because he is over 50 years old.
The pirates faced three charges of attempted robbery, possession of dangerous weapons and entering the country illegally. The magistrate found them guilty of all the charges.
OFF TO JAIL: The accused being led out of Kota Tinggi magistrate court.
For attempted robbery off Persiaran Piah in Pengerang at 5.30pm on April 21, they were each sentenced to four years’ jail and ordered to be given three strokes of the rotan.
For possession of dangerous weapons, including a Rambo knife and five parangs, they were sentenced to eight months’ jail and ordered to be given two strokes of the rotan.
For entering Malaysian waters without valid documents, five were sentenced to 18 months’ jail and ordered to be given two strokes of the rotan.
Zubir and Jani were imposed a penalty of 20 months’ jail and three strokes of the rotan. All sentences begin from the date of their arrest on April 21.
Seven also to be caned for terrorising fishermen
The pirates — Zubir Hashim, 41, Sutarman Marmin, 40, Mohamed Rojali Bahari, 37, Khairuddin Basir, 40, Arlis Adnan, 49, Arnis Ali, 48, and Jani Usman, 52, — were unrepresented.
Zubir was ordered to be given eight strokes, while Jani was spared the cane because he is over 50 years old.
The pirates faced three charges of attempted robbery, possession of dangerous weapons and entering the country illegally. The magistrate found them guilty of all the charges.
OFF TO JAIL: The accused being led out of Kota Tinggi magistrate court.
For attempted robbery off Persiaran Piah in Pengerang at 5.30pm on April 21, they were each sentenced to four years’ jail and ordered to be given three strokes of the rotan.
For possession of dangerous weapons, including a Rambo knife and five parangs, they were sentenced to eight months’ jail and ordered to be given two strokes of the rotan.
For entering Malaysian waters without valid documents, five were sentenced to 18 months’ jail and ordered to be given two strokes of the rotan.
Zubir and Jani were imposed a penalty of 20 months’ jail and three strokes of the rotan. All sentences begin from the date of their arrest on April 21.
QUOTE (Nusantara @ Jun 19 2005, 11:37 PM)
Are they Acehnese?
I don't think so but the pirates who tried to hijack another ship last week are tought to be from Aceh.QUOTE
Pirates hijack Malaysian tanker
LANGKAWI: A gang of heavily armed pirates, believed to be from Aceh, hijacked a Malaysian tanker off Langkawi here yesterday.
They surrendered after a 12-hour drama on the high seas.
Marine police personnel checking the pirates for identification and weapons after their surrender aboard the MT Nepline Delima off Langkawi yesterday — Picture by SARJAN TEKNIKAL A. RAMAKRISHNAN APLANAIDU
Their downfall was brought about by a brave 28-year-old sailor who dived into the sea, stole the pirates’ speedboat and returned with five police patrol boats, including a PZ15 gunboat.
The drama began at 4am yesterday when 10 pirates, armed with sub-machine guns and parangs, boarded the MT Nepline Delima north of here and seven nautical miles from Thai waters while most of the crew members were asleep.
The brave seaman, Mohamad Hamid, hid while his colleagues were rounded up. He was nearly caught but managed to dive from the deck to the sea near the pirates’ boat.
With the speedboat, Mohamad ended up just 500m from the police marine base here at 9am and raised the alarm.
The marine police started a seach about 11am and caught up with the tanker 23 nautical miles from Langkawi at 12.30pm.
The pirates threatened to blow up the tanker.
The PZ15 gunboat commander negotiated with them. After more than three hours the pirates were persuaded to surrender peacefully at 3.40pm.
LANGKAWI: A gang of heavily armed pirates, believed to be from Aceh, hijacked a Malaysian tanker off Langkawi here yesterday.
They surrendered after a 12-hour drama on the high seas.
Marine police personnel checking the pirates for identification and weapons after their surrender aboard the MT Nepline Delima off Langkawi yesterday — Picture by SARJAN TEKNIKAL A. RAMAKRISHNAN APLANAIDU
Their downfall was brought about by a brave 28-year-old sailor who dived into the sea, stole the pirates’ speedboat and returned with five police patrol boats, including a PZ15 gunboat.
The drama began at 4am yesterday when 10 pirates, armed with sub-machine guns and parangs, boarded the MT Nepline Delima north of here and seven nautical miles from Thai waters while most of the crew members were asleep.
The brave seaman, Mohamad Hamid, hid while his colleagues were rounded up. He was nearly caught but managed to dive from the deck to the sea near the pirates’ boat.
With the speedboat, Mohamad ended up just 500m from the police marine base here at 9am and raised the alarm.
The marine police started a seach about 11am and caught up with the tanker 23 nautical miles from Langkawi at 12.30pm.
The pirates threatened to blow up the tanker.
The PZ15 gunboat commander negotiated with them. After more than three hours the pirates were persuaded to surrender peacefully at 3.40pm.
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KUALA LUMPUR, July 25 (Bernama) -- The Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN)'s vessel, the KD Kinabalu, Monday came to the rescue of three Malaysian fishing boats which were detained by Indonesia's marine police in Malaysian waters.
Shortly after the boats were detained about 33 nautical miles west of Kuala Selangor at 8.20 am, the chairman of the Hutan Melintang Fishermen's Association in Perak, Kee Keo Poh reported the incident to RMN's Armada Operations Centre (AOC)at RMN's base in Lumut.
The commanding officer of KD Kinabalu, Lieut. Commander Abdul Rahman Mukhri said after receiving orders from the AOC, they contacted Kee at 10.20 am to get the registration details of the boats involved.
An hour later, the warship with the aid of a Fennec aircraft from the 502 Squadron found one of the fishing boats towing an Indonesian marine police boat, he said in a statement released here Monday.
He said at the time of receiving the instructions the KD Kinabalu was patrolling the Melaka Straits.
Abdul Rahman said it took about 90 minutes to intercept the Indonesian patrol boats and getting them to stop to resolve the situation.
He said the patrol boat's chief, Sgt Kasdi (many Indonesians only go by one name) claimed that the Malaysians had been detained near the Aruah islands and that they had been pushed back into Malaysian waters because of strong currents during the towing process.
However, he said after explaining the situation and consulting charts on current movements, Kasdi softened his stance and agreed to release all the fishing vessels together with their goods.
"RMN's success in preventing the fishermen from being detained by the Indonesian authorities peacefully is an indication of RMN's preparedness in responding to any situation and carrying out the responsibility entrusted to it," he added.
-- BERNAMA
Shortly after the boats were detained about 33 nautical miles west of Kuala Selangor at 8.20 am, the chairman of the Hutan Melintang Fishermen's Association in Perak, Kee Keo Poh reported the incident to RMN's Armada Operations Centre (AOC)at RMN's base in Lumut.
The commanding officer of KD Kinabalu, Lieut. Commander Abdul Rahman Mukhri said after receiving orders from the AOC, they contacted Kee at 10.20 am to get the registration details of the boats involved.
An hour later, the warship with the aid of a Fennec aircraft from the 502 Squadron found one of the fishing boats towing an Indonesian marine police boat, he said in a statement released here Monday.
He said at the time of receiving the instructions the KD Kinabalu was patrolling the Melaka Straits.
Abdul Rahman said it took about 90 minutes to intercept the Indonesian patrol boats and getting them to stop to resolve the situation.
He said the patrol boat's chief, Sgt Kasdi (many Indonesians only go by one name) claimed that the Malaysians had been detained near the Aruah islands and that they had been pushed back into Malaysian waters because of strong currents during the towing process.
However, he said after explaining the situation and consulting charts on current movements, Kasdi softened his stance and agreed to release all the fishing vessels together with their goods.
"RMN's success in preventing the fishermen from being detained by the Indonesian authorities peacefully is an indication of RMN's preparedness in responding to any situation and carrying out the responsibility entrusted to it," he added.
-- BERNAMA
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Aug 9 2005, 11:43 AM)
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KUALA LUMPUR, July 25 (Bernama) -- The Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN)'s vessel, the KD Kinabalu, Monday came to the rescue of three Malaysian fishing boats which were detained by Indonesia's marine police in Malaysian waters.
Shortly after the boats were detained about 33 nautical miles west of Kuala Selangor at 8.20 am, the chairman of the Hutan Melintang Fishermen's Association in Perak, Kee Keo Poh reported the incident to RMN's Armada Operations Centre (AOC)at RMN's base in Lumut.
The commanding officer of KD Kinabalu, Lieut. Commander Abdul Rahman Mukhri said after receiving orders from the AOC, they contacted Kee at 10.20 am to get the registration details of the boats involved.
An hour later, the warship with the aid of a Fennec aircraft from the 502 Squadron found one of the fishing boats towing an Indonesian marine police boat, he said in a statement released here Monday.
He said at the time of receiving the instructions the KD Kinabalu was patrolling the Melaka Straits.
Abdul Rahman said it took about 90 minutes to intercept the Indonesian patrol boats and getting them to stop to resolve the situation.
He said the patrol boat's chief, Sgt Kasdi (many Indonesians only go by one name) claimed that the Malaysians had been detained near the Aruah islands and that they had been pushed back into Malaysian waters because of strong currents during the towing process.
However, he said after explaining the situation and consulting charts on current movements, Kasdi softened his stance and agreed to release all the fishing vessels together with their goods.
"RMN's success in preventing the fishermen from being detained by the Indonesian authorities peacefully is an indication of RMN's preparedness in responding to any situation and carrying out the responsibility entrusted to it," he added.
-- BERNAMA
Shortly after the boats were detained about 33 nautical miles west of Kuala Selangor at 8.20 am, the chairman of the Hutan Melintang Fishermen's Association in Perak, Kee Keo Poh reported the incident to RMN's Armada Operations Centre (AOC)at RMN's base in Lumut.
The commanding officer of KD Kinabalu, Lieut. Commander Abdul Rahman Mukhri said after receiving orders from the AOC, they contacted Kee at 10.20 am to get the registration details of the boats involved.
An hour later, the warship with the aid of a Fennec aircraft from the 502 Squadron found one of the fishing boats towing an Indonesian marine police boat, he said in a statement released here Monday.
He said at the time of receiving the instructions the KD Kinabalu was patrolling the Melaka Straits.
Abdul Rahman said it took about 90 minutes to intercept the Indonesian patrol boats and getting them to stop to resolve the situation.
He said the patrol boat's chief, Sgt Kasdi (many Indonesians only go by one name) claimed that the Malaysians had been detained near the Aruah islands and that they had been pushed back into Malaysian waters because of strong currents during the towing process.
However, he said after explaining the situation and consulting charts on current movements, Kasdi softened his stance and agreed to release all the fishing vessels together with their goods.
"RMN's success in preventing the fishermen from being detained by the Indonesian authorities peacefully is an indication of RMN's preparedness in responding to any situation and carrying out the responsibility entrusted to it," he added.
-- BERNAMA
^^corruption is everywhere... 
Those rogue marine police were lucky not to be blown up by the Malaysian navy.
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RM90,000 sought for release of four fishermen
PORT d!ckSON: Four Malaysian fishermen have been detained by Indonesian authorities, who have allegedly demanded RM90,000 for the release of the four and their boat.
Skipper Azim Pit, 50, and his workers Rahim Buyong, 40, Buda Daud, 35, and Ali Boyan 60, were detained on Saturday in the Straits of Malacca.
There is as yet no news of their status but the Malaysian authorities have been informed of the arrests.
According to Port d!ckson Fishermen's Association chairman Abu Bakar Che Mat, family members of the fishermen managed to contact them via their handphones.
He said they had been told by Indonesian authorities to pay RM50,000 for the release of the boat and RM10,000 for the release of each for the fishermen.
Abu Bakar said he believed the four were fishing in international waters and had not encroached into Indonesian territory as claimed.
“Our members have years of experience fishing in the Straits of Malacca, and the boat was also equipped with a global positioning system unit.”
Meanwhile, the marine police said they had alerted the Foreign Ministry. .
PORT d!ckSON: Four Malaysian fishermen have been detained by Indonesian authorities, who have allegedly demanded RM90,000 for the release of the four and their boat.
Skipper Azim Pit, 50, and his workers Rahim Buyong, 40, Buda Daud, 35, and Ali Boyan 60, were detained on Saturday in the Straits of Malacca.
There is as yet no news of their status but the Malaysian authorities have been informed of the arrests.
According to Port d!ckson Fishermen's Association chairman Abu Bakar Che Mat, family members of the fishermen managed to contact them via their handphones.
He said they had been told by Indonesian authorities to pay RM50,000 for the release of the boat and RM10,000 for the release of each for the fishermen.
Abu Bakar said he believed the four were fishing in international waters and had not encroached into Indonesian territory as claimed.
“Our members have years of experience fishing in the Straits of Malacca, and the boat was also equipped with a global positioning system unit.”
Meanwhile, the marine police said they had alerted the Foreign Ministry. .
QUOTE(Nusantara @ Dec 24 2004, 11:46 AM) [snapback]620172[/snapback]
^There is no proof yet piracy was being conducted by Achehnese.
Acheh problem is not about religion, It is separatist problem. They want to seperate from Indonesia who they think mostly controled by central goverment in java island which make up almost 60% of Indonesian population.
The way they think why Acheh should be incorporated into Indonesia if they never surrender into Dutch.
So this is nothing to do about their religion. They fought off for independency.
I am reading Crossroads, a history of Malaysia and Singapore, and it said that the Bugis were quite adept at piracy on the high seas, due to their ability to move as a political unit wherever they landed in the Riau archipelago and later Johor and surrounds. They were being displaced from the Celebes because of pressure by Dutch colonizers, and they moved as mobile political units throughout Riau and Malaysia, offering their fighting men as mercenaries to anyone who would pay the right price. They created a reputation for piracy that way.
By the 18th entury, there was a well-connected series of Bugis settlements that stretched from the Celebes to the Southern entrance of the Straits of Melaka. A reason for their success was their willingness to work within the local political institutions. For eg in Johor, they operated as powers behind the scenes and maintained the traditional structure of the sultanate and its symbolic position in the eyes of the local inhabitants. ( I wish the Americans would learn from this Bugis strategy in Iraq!!!! )
An eighteenth century Bugis chronicle observed that "The Sultan is to occupy the position of a woman only; he is to be fed when we choose to feed him; but the (Bugis) is to be in the position of a husband; his will is always to prevail."
These pirates!!! haha
We should make a movie about Pirates og Bugisean
Yeah... why not? I never know abt Bugis people that well... maybe a movie or telenovela abt their history would be cool! 
Last time, the only thing we knew was Bugis Street in Singapore! Where all the trannies and mat sallehs hang to have a good time...
Last time, the only thing we knew was Bugis Street in Singapore! Where all the trannies and mat sallehs hang to have a good time...
I believe some South Korean ships were also victimized by pirates in this region. I think it's rather amsuing that piracy actually works even to this day in the age of modern navies.
So, were there any cooperative international efforts to cull piracy in this region? I believe piracy there would be a concern from many nations, as this part of the region is an important trade route.
So, were there any cooperative international efforts to cull piracy in this region? I believe piracy there would be a concern from many nations, as this part of the region is an important trade route.
QUOTE(SantaKlaws @ Feb 22 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]2741866[/snapback]
I believe some South Korean ships were also victimized by pirates in this region. I think it's rather amsuing that piracy actually works even to this day in the age of modern navies.
So, were there any cooperative international efforts to cull piracy in this region? I believe piracy there would be a concern from many nations, as this part of the region is an important trade route.
The straits of malacca is the world longest straits. There is an international co-operative effort right now between Spore, Malaysia and Indonesia
Over the years, there is a drop in piracy but there is still some happening. Low crime does not mean no crime and you cant curb and cleanse it 100%
QUOTE(Sideley @ Dec 21 2004, 02:16 AM) [snapback]613354[/snapback]
Can someone explain the origin of malaysian piracy culture ?
This is not a provocative question. For those who deny facts, just take the glimpse on Piracy reports, you could also pefrom further search with keywords " malacca strait" and "piracy"
This is not a provocative question. For those who deny facts, just take the glimpse on Piracy reports, you could also pefrom further search with keywords " malacca strait" and "piracy"
malaysian piracy culture?
"Mari mari...!!! DVD RM10! Gerenti Clear, Tak Clear Buleh Tukar!"
May be its since Langasuka time ,like this pirate movie. (The movie is really about pirate)
QUOTE(tangawizi @ Feb 2 2007, 06:02 AM) [snapback]2698488[/snapback]
Yeah... why not? I never know abt Bugis people that well... maybe a movie or telenovela abt their history would be cool!
Last time, the only thing we knew was Bugis Street in Singapore! Where all the trannies and mat sallehs hang to have a good time...
Last time, the only thing we knew was Bugis Street in Singapore! Where all the trannies and mat sallehs hang to have a good time...
this is interesting pirate of singapore
http://kweeboon.blogspot.com/2007/04/pirat...-singapore.html
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