When I come across Vietnamese words and see ph together, is that pronounced like an F or is it an aspirated P? TIA

^it's pronounced like an f

ph- f
d- y like your
d with a cross đ is d as in a dog
nh is pronounced like ny like the spanish N with the ~
gi- is z

there's a vietnamese province called "kon tum" right? if so, what does kon tum mean?

don't know. it's a native name from those highlanders

yeah i think it is because the most of the bahnar people lives there. i think kon tum possibly mean "big child" or large child". in khmer, it would be "khon thom". the bahnaric language is closely related to khmer and these people may have split up from khmers when they arrived in SEAsia. i notice many ethnic minorities in vietnam speaks a mon-khmer language. these people were most likely part of a massive migration of mon-khmer people..


the reason why khmer language is being treated as isolated is because it was heavily influenced by pali and sanskrit.

sorry for going off topic.. you may resume.

Of course that is primarily in the South. The Nothern dialect treats the unbarred 'd' pretty much as a 'z' sound too. I have to assume that, even though there are more Southern dialect speakers that have migrated and taken the language out of Vietnam, that the Northern dialect is considered the 'official' language of the nation. Whenever I listen to most internet broadcasts of news feeds and such, the announcers and reporters are almost always sepaking with a Northern accent.

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That's true. It's also helpful for spelling if you speak with a Northern accent.

But I find the Northern accent currently in Vietnam right now so harsh. I prefer the Northern accent of the Viet who migrated to the South in '54.... like Ky Duyen & Nguyen Ngoc Ngan... It's less harsh and sounds very sophisticated.

how do you say tra(ng ra(`m with northern accent ? and how is it helpful for spelling ?

2 2 cha(ng da(`m.

In my opinion, giong DaNang phac a^m du'ng nhat.

gi, r,d are all pronounced as z

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Yah. Người Đà Nẵng nói và phát âm chuẩn hơn mấy miền khác. Nếu là chử "d" thì sẻ phát âm chử "d", chứ không có phát âm lộn xộn đâu.

"Về" thì là "về," chứ không có "dề" gì hết. Phát âm nguyên câu và viết sao thì đọc rứa, chứ không có nói sai chi hết.

hehehe ... i've gotta give it to danang accent, eventhough it's still a little heavy and not as flowing as the one from hanoi.

danang people i know đánh lưỡi chữ "tr" và "r" rõ ràng, không như người bắc; và nói rõ chữ "v", không như người nam.

also, i think we have accents in our language; not dialects, like someone has said earlier (our situation is similar to americans from boston and memphis, rather than chinese from beijing and guangchou)

Why the hell dont they just use the proper sounding letters if this is the case???

ph = f.
gi = z.

it's the same with Chinese, why dont the fu-king replace Q with CH. It's so damn illogical to use roman characters and having a different sound altogether.

In Vietnamese there is no alphabet F. It goes from E to G not EFG. Not a Vietnamese word uses F unless it comes from other languages.

Most people use D for Z in Vietnamese. Example: Dung is not pronounced like Dun but Zung.

Because Vietnamese is changing pretty quickly, ph used to be aspirated p but now changed to f.
Bl consonant changed to tr, and now technically became ch in both southern and northern vietnamese.
Gi used to pronounced soemthing like *j

thanks dudes.

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Right! It doesn't indicate a thing...except whether you are a back-woods hick from the South or a cultured, educated Northerner. :>


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That's real nice

That's real nice is incorrect grammar.. and you're a soon-to-be languist? 2

HAHa just playing

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LOL
"Languist" isn't a word; it's "linguist"

My friend once told me, never mix accents, like speak a mixture of tieng nam va tieng bac. But is it normal for some one to do so in Vietnam and over in the USA?
Example, I say d=z, v=v, anh=ayng, but always say gi with a "y".

I'm from the central and I pronouce everything...well I try. No D with a z sound or the V with the Y sound lol. There are lots of Southerners here when I go to weddings they mispell words misplacing the V for the d or vice versa hahahahahha. Can't blame them though. gave me a good giggle.

1.Nguoi Mien Nam said:

Con ga an co tren bo de.

2. Nguoi Da Nang said:

Con ra an co tren bo de.

So...The accent the between the Nam and Danang have a lil mistaking. Because Danang live near the Hanoi. they alway defend of speaking Hanoi Language.


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