QUOTE (strongbad @ Dec 6 2010, 01:16 AM)
If you make it hard for someone to decide, you cant get mad at them for making the wrong decission.
If nam was more aggressive maybe the judges would have chosen him.
You also have to realize that the UFC wants a lot of action, they want guys to go in there and just throws punches and beat each other up really bad.
A long time ago, the UFC did not have time limits each round, so fighters who go in there and throw a lot of punches will get tired fast and usually loose the fight. But now in the UFC there are time limits in each round, the UFC has evolved into a different style that caters towards aggressive action.
If nam phan was a MMA star with a track record of making people tap out, then I can understand why nam phan would dance around the ring and shy away from throwing wild punches.
The judges probally chose garcia knowing that his fighting style will lead to a stunning knock out in a future match.
the rear naked choked nam didnt realy have a good hold, so I dont think garcia was tapping, even the two guys on TV didnt think garcia was tapping. If you blame the ref for not calling the tap, well how long did garcia tap for? it was a split second, so you can understand why the ref might have missed it.
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There was nothing shy about Nam and you keep saying he danced around when he didn't. It's called really good defense. Dancing around is when you mock your opponent or run away from them. Also there was nothing hard about making the right decision. Everyone there saw who won. Even Joe the commentator said Nam took all 3 rounds. Even Garcia's coach was baffled about it. Are you ignoring those factors?
Why is it that one judge gave 3 rounds to Nam while the other 2 judges gave 1 rounds to Nam? Why is there such a big difference between the judges? It's obvious. One of the judges came from a boxing history and everyone knows that boxing is so corrupt. People there wanted to watch an MMA fight not someone throwing slopping punches and missing most of them.
Were there any highlights for Garcia that made you go he won the match? I didn't see any. All I saw was sloppy strikes from Garcia and him getting really tired/beat up. The only highlight you can really say is he survived the 3rd round (but so did Nam).
QUOTE (aulnet @ Dec 6 2010, 02:23 AM)
garcia won the first and last round, yes i watched the whole fight. name was moving forward but he's not attacking while garcia moved back throwing punches and kicks. theres is no doubt garcia would beat nam if there were to be a rematcch. im thinkin KO in the 2nd round. garcia has a granite chin, those shot nam landed should of knocked him out but it didnt. the judges were spot on, garcia won the fight indefinitely. im vietnamese but ti doesnt mean i shouldn't give credit where it is due.
Throwing punches and kicks does not win a fight. It's if you can land them. Also, if the judges were spot on, then how come everyone yelled Bull Sh*t? How come on the internet everyone is saying it was a robbery? How come on Sherdog the poll gave Nam 93% and Garcia 7% for who should have won? Why did Joe, the commentator say that the judges were wrong? Why did everyone in the ring gave a shrug at the decision (including Garcia's own coach)?
When a decision is made and everyone in the ring looks surprised about it, it's the wrong decision. Does not a take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
Again, I will ask you the same question I asked strongbad.
What were Garcia's highlights that made you go "he won that match?"
Please read this recent Sherdog article about the decision:
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http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/UFCSt...Knockouts-28580Among Mike Goldberg’s usual duties -- sponsor plugs, broadcast generalship, tanning -- is reciting the standard “Rules of the Octagon” narration over a graphic, which states points will be awarded “based on striking, grappling, aggression, and Octagon control.” At 10 seconds in length, this will never be mistaken for an instructional video, but it’s become very obvious that Nevada judges in attendance Saturday haven’t even bothered with that much.
After handling Leonard Garcia for three rounds, pushing Garcia backward, landing while Garcia whiffed in open-mouthed “offense” and even taking a round with a conceivable 10-8 work effort, two judges ignored Nam Phan and scored the bout 29-28 Garcia.
(The third saw it 30-27 Phan, cementing his status as human with two functioning corneas.) It stands next to New Coke, “The Phantom Menace” and the Hula burger as one of the worst decisions of all time. In typically boorish bureaucratic fashion, these judges will never be asked to explain their scorecard, will never be asked to provide evidence of their competency, and will probably not be reprimanded in any meaningfully way -- all expected outcomes of virtually every other botched job on the planet.
Nothing can suffocate the enthusiasm of fans more quickly than something purported to be “As Real as it Gets” burdened by the inexplicable presence of officials who use a fictitious set of standards to oversee fights. Athletic commissions are assumed to be competent; as we saw with Chael Sonnen’s hearing Thursday, some members can’t even tell the difference between a mixed martial artist and a boxer. At this point, it’s becoming impossible to tell the difference between a fight judge and a brick.
Anyways nice fight Nam...